Lal kitab

September 18, 2008

Resp. Prabhakar ji,

Namaskar,

Thanks for your reply.

Sk - Please do not be so humble, so I may not be

able to reciprocate.

YRP - You need not to reciprocate at all, but it is my right and the

teachings of my Gurus to give full respect to a scholar, kindly do

not deprive me of this right.

Sk – Now I can only say that my Guru ji also says that do not take

any thing which you can not reciprocate. So I hope you may be very

normal to me. Hi

Ok, now our points

1

S - What is your opinion about the destiny? Is it fixed or variable?

P- (a) No, It is beyond any ordinary human beings capacity to alter

the

destiny.

S – When we are not able to change destiny then what is the use of

knowing destiny? If it is like a film show where every sequence of

event is fixed then where is the necessity to do any thing or do some

remedy; say remedy of lal kitab?

YRP - Respected Sir, suppose a person is destined to found a decent

job, but can he/she afford to skip the interview? It is beyond

anyone's power to stop rainfall, but what is wrong in protecting

yourself under an umbrella? Knowing the future is just like the

curiosity of a student who browse newspaper daily to see the result

of his examination, and in my humble opinion It is not bad at all,

because there are certain qualification examination for job seekers

where participants are not informed individually. So if one forget to

respond within time he/she may loose a potential chance of getting a

job.

Sk – At one side you are saying that we have no capacity to alter the

destiny (refer P(1) above) and now you are saying that there is no

wrong in protecting ourselves under an umbrella; Or browsing

newspaper daily to see the result of his examination. Now, what do

you say; Is it not destined that we will protect ourselves under an

umbrella or we will read newspaper to see the result. I mean to say

that are these actions are within our limit and not covered by

destiny?

2

S– Is it possible to know any event of the future with any system say

lal kitab?

P- Yes, events of the future can be known with Lal Kitab principles.

S- What do you say, is LK is perfect in prediction for future event

instead of so many other systems like traditional, KP, western,

tarot, palmistry, numerology, vaastu, Nadi and so on?

YRP - Sir, I have a bundle of arguments in favor, but I am bound by

one of the dictum of this divine scripture called Lal Kitab that

advised its followers never to criticize other streams of knowledge

or its scholars to prove their point. I am reproducing the exact text

in Roman Urdu: " Baat kee asliyat paaney ke liye, kisi doosrey ilm ya

aalim ki badkhoyee se parhez chahiye. "

Sk – You have a bundle of arguments in favor, it means you are

supporting LK and may not be in favour of other streams. OK. However

I will like to say that analyzing any knowledge, system, principle

etc. including LK is not criticism. Because only by analyzing we can

improve our knowledge and can see the basic foundation. Suppose you

have to advise a friend for his treatment through some doctor. Then

will you not advise him best doctor, or will you like to say that I

will not advise you because it is criticism of other doctors. So do

not take it otherwise. We are only analyzing the systems. We are not

creators of the principles but definitely want to know about the

viability, science and logic of these predictive system. So I am

putting 4th question. And it is a different issue if you do not want

to open the gate of traditional astrology. It is up to you.

3

S – Is there any single principle in LK by which any prediction can

correctly be known?

YRP - There are different principles/methods defined in Lal Kitab for

different events, It will be more appropriate if you can pinpoint to

a particular aspect.

Sk- I offer you following categories for supporting LK principles, I

mean to say that you may intimate any principle by which you can

predict that

A any horoscope belongs to Male or Female, because sex has very vital

role in the life of some one (through out the world and in all

religion), and it affect whole sequence of event.

B When he will be married or just have sexual relationship. Do planet

knows that it is marriage and it is sexual relationship without

marriage?

C How many marriages. Because in India we have mostly only one

marriage and one partner for sexual relationship, where as Muslim

countries have mostly more then one marriages at a time and western

countries may mostly have more then one marriage (one by one) at a

time but mostly have many partner for sexual relationship. So how any

planet who is responsible for marriage know and affect as to who may

have to lead with one wife, who may with more wives and who may have

one by one many wives.

D How many childrens (male or female) and when. How planet

differentiate that a tribal man or osama may have more children then

most of the persons of the world.

E About his Education, profession, Finance and of-course about his

death.

4

Sk – Do you think LK is scientifically correct or it is your faith on

LK because Pt. Roop Chand Joshi ji belongs to Punjab (your state)?

Regarding your observation " I joined this august group to learn from

you and other scholars. " I will like to say that we are churning

predictive astrology and it is up to a member as whether he may be

able to digest the nectar or not.

Remember that nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion.

Thanks for very good interaction and if you want then you can also

pass it on to other forums/friends to support you. Beside this I am

changing the heading for proper linking.

Yours truly,

Sanat

PS : If members are reading these msgs then they may also take part

with their views. Remember interaction is the only way to find the

way and to streamline your views. So I will like to invite every

member for interaction. They can also invite their

astrologer/internet/forum friends to this forum or they may intimate

their email to me on sanatkumar_jain and I will

personally invite them for interaction.

, Yograj Prabhakar

<yr_prabhakar wrote:

>

> Respected Sabat Kumar Jain Sahib,

> Sa'adar Pranaam

>

> I have answered under each of your question.

>

> Respectfully

> Yograj Prabhakar

>

> Resp. Prabhakar ji,

> Namaskar,

> Thanks for your reply. Please do not be so humble, so I may not be

> able to reciprocate.

>

> YRP - You need not to reciprocate at all, but it is my right and

the teachings of my Gurus to give full respect to a scholar, kindly

do not deprive me of this right.

>

> Now I am digging further both points, which may trigger many points

> in due course (like point no 3)

>

> 1

> S - What is your opinion about the destiny? Is it fixed or variable?

> P- No, It is beyond any ordinary human beings capacity to alter the

> destiny.

>

> S – When we are not able to change destiny then what is the use of

> knowing destiny? If it is like a film show where every sequence of

> event is fixed then where is the necessity to do any thing or do

some

> remedy; say remedy of lal kitab?

>

> YRP - Respected Sir, suppose a person is destined to found a decent