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> Resp. Members, > As usual some new members

have joined. I welcome all new members in our forum. I find that

this month some prominent members have joined the forum. They are Mr. Mark Kincaid, Yograj Prabhakar, mindsutra and srajesh ji. > We welcome and hope that

new members may please come forward about their views on astrology

after going through first msg of March-08 > We are

waiting for the observations > Thanks once again for

joining the forum. > Yours truly, >

Sanat > Sanat Kumar Jain Dear

Sanat: Thank you very much for your warm welcome. I'd like to

say a few things about my own experiences doing astrology over many years

and especially Vedic astrology these last 22!First of all I'd

like to say that astrology is very easily scientifically verifiable!First, within my own self, I've found all the symbolisms of

especially my eastern chart, do fit me to a tee!This may be

only a subjective experience but I still find it very remarkable!#2 I'd like to say, now, after 22 years of doing Jyotish, and especially

doing over 7000 people's charts, I have to say: all these people

too, " THEIR CHARTS FIT THEM AS WELL! " #3 Finally, I'd

like to add; One of the most powerful verifications of astrology is

in each day's TRANSITS!Right now the Sun, Moon and planets are

all transiting some where. These movements have very real and

repeatable effects on everyone. However, each person

experiences the transits differently! This reminds me of the

weather.The weather may shine, rain or snow, but these

different experiences influence each one of us differently..I

always suggest to people to watch the stars for 2 or 3 months, focusing

very much upon what the Moon is doing to see how intensely do the stars

affect YOU!Right now, the Moon just finished the Full Moon

time! Each month the Moon waxes and then wanes.Watch

now, over the next weeks as the Moon gets smaller. See, if you don't

find a direct correlation between how you feel, (the Moon) and how big the

Moon is.Then, in 2 weeks watch how you feel as the Moon gets

bigger and bigger.Recently, we've been going through some very

intense transits.About 6 weeks ago, Mars and Saturn collided

or were very close in the sky together.During these times,

tension between the Mars doing part of us and the Saturn resting part of

us happened.Many people that I was aware of experienced many

kinds of grief due to this natural happening of the stars!#2

Then, the Sun moved through Leo where Saturn is right now, and also

collided with it. That really was hard on a lot of people!And, finally, #3, recently many planets have been going through

Virgo. This is always a trying time of the year when Sun gets close

to Virgo, such planets as Venus and Mercury are found in Virgo.This is especially difficult because Venus is the most unhappy in

Virgo! This is because Venus represents the loving side of us.

And, when in Virgo, represents a great sadness on a heart, feeling

level.All kinds of challenges come on a relationship, love,

even friendship level when Venus is 'debilitated' in Virgo.What is the old expression? " Love knows no reason! " And, this is why Venus is thought to be very unhappy in Virgo.Therefore, the transit of Venus through Virgo each year is a

trying one!Finally, finally. Also, recently, Mars has

joined Mercury and Venus in Virgo.This has brought an

unusually aggressive fiery element to the Virgo mix which has represented

deep anger and madness.There are all good transits.Jupiter is in Sagittarius this year, and many good things have

happened as a result also!This will be in sharp contrast, when

in Dec. of this year Jupiter moves into Capricorn where it too is

unhappy.These always moving stars, (Transits) show us in each

moment exactly how real, predictable, and yes, scientific astrology truly

is!Sincerely,Mark KincaidFounder Nature's Astrologywww..comemail me at:

markkincaid 1. Fwd: Re:

Verification of Vedic Knowledge Avtar Krishen Kaul

2a. Re: Welcome sanat2221 2b. Re:

Welcome Yograj Prabhakar

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Fwd: Re: Verification of Vedic Knowledge

Posted by: " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

jyotirved a_krishen

Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:40 am (PDT)

akandabaratam ,

" Avtar Krishen Kaul " ..> wrote: Dear

friends, Namaskar! The only verification that can be done in

respect of " Vedic astrology " is that it is really one of

the biggest frauds being played on Hindus deliberately by vesed

interests! Because of " Vedic astrology " and " Vedic

astrologers " , we are celebrating all our festivals

and muhutas on wrong days! This will be evident from the paper

" 08-09.pdf " being uploaded in the files section. With

regards, AKK --- End forwarded message ---

 

 

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Posted by: " sanat2221 " sanatkumar_jain sanat2221

Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:39 am (PDT)

Resp. Prabhakar ji,

Namaskar, Thanks for your reply. So let us start from your msg

it-self. I am not agree with your observation

>>>>> I am a student of one of the most wonderful

stream of indian Astrology known as Lal Kitab. learning some thing

or other till death. So your comment is rather submissive in nature

instead of factual position. Hi Hi. Because one may be student of

Ph.D., but when he teach middle class student then he is teacher

and he must have knowledge to answer the various questions of

middle class. So for us you are respected teacher. OK, let us

be serious. We in this forum (which is only forum of this type) are

discussing scientific admissibility of any predictive / remedial

astrological (related to planet) principals. So you can discuss

astrology (you may read first msg of march-08) or Lal Kitab etc.,

as you please. To start with your Lal Kitab let us have some

preliminary questions. 1 – What is your opinion about

the destiny? Is it fixed or variable? 2 – Is it possible to

know any event of the future with any system say lal kitab?

I am waiting for your observations and on the basis of answer to

these basic questions we will move further or even if you devise

some other way for discussion. I have no objection. I

hope our discussion will be fruitful and you will continue to

interact. Thanking you, Yours truly,

Sanat Gwalior 0751-2626868 ,

Yograj Prabhakar ...> wrote: > > Respected

Sanat Kumar jain Sahib, > > Thanks a lot for your kind

words, I am a student of one of the most wonderful stream of indian

Astrology known as Lal Kitab. The originator and author of this

five divine scriptures is Pt. Roop Chand Joshi ji of village

Pharwala (Distt Jalandhar) of Punjab. I joined this august group to

learn from the vast experience of the luminaries present here,

including your good-self. > > Respectfully >

Yograj Prabhakar > > --- On Thu, 9/11/08, sanat2221

jain wrote: >sanat2221 jain

> Welcome > > Thursday, September 11, 2008, 11:06 PM >

> > > > > >

> > > > > Resp.

Members, > > As usual some new members have joined. I

welcome all new members in > > our forum. I find that

this month some prominent members have joined >

> the forum. They are Mr. Mark Kincaid, Yograj Prabhakar, mindsutra and > > srajesh ji. > >

> > We welcome and hope that new members may please come

forward about > > their views on astrology after going

through first msg of March-08 > > and some

SOA______files in the file section. > > > > We are waiting for the observations > >

> > Thanks once again for joining the forum. > > > > Yours truly, > >

Sanat > > Sanat Kumar Jain > >

Gwalior >

 

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Re: Welcome

Posted by: " Yograj Prabhakar " yr_prabhakar yr_prabhakar

Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:53 am (PDT)

Respected Sanat Kumar Ji

Sa'daar Pranaam. Sir, my humble answers to your questions: " 1 - What is your opinion about the destiny? Is it fixed or

variable? " No, It is beyond any ordinary human beings capacity

to alter the destiny. " 2 – Is it possible to know

any event of the future with any system say lal kitab?

Yes, events of the future can be known with Lal Kitab principles.

Respectfully Yograj Prabhakar --- On Sun,

9/14/08, sanat2221

sanatkumar_jain (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote:

sanat2221 sanatkumar_jain (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com>

Re: Welcome Sunday, September 14, 2008, 11:09 PM Resp. Prabhakar

ji, Namaskar, Thanks for your reply. So let us

start from your msg it-self. I am not agree with your

observation >>>>> I am a student of one of

the most wonderful stream of indian Astrology known as Lal

Kitab. learning some thing or other till death. So your comment is

rather submissive in nature instead of factual position. Hi

Hi. Because one may be student of Ph.D., but when he teach

middle class student then he is teacher and he must have

knowledge to answer the various questions of middle class.

So for us you are respected teacher. OK, let us be serious.

We in this forum (which is only forum of this type) are

discussing scientific admissibility of any predictive /

remedial astrological (related to planet) principals. So you can

discuss astrology (you may read first msg of march-08) or Lal Kitab

etc., as you please. To start with your Lal

Kitab let us have some preliminary questions. 1 – What

is your opinion about the destiny? Is it fixed or variable? 2

– Is it possible to know any event of the future with any system say lal kitab? I am waiting for your observations

and on the basis of answer to these basic questions we will

move further or even if you devise some other way for

discussion. I have no objection. I hope our discussion will

be fruitful and you will continue to interact.

Thanking you, Yours truly, Sanat

Gwalior 0751-2626868 @

. com, Yograj Prabhakar wrote:

> > Respected Sanat Kumar jain Sahib, >

> Thanks a lot for your kind words, I am a student of one

of the most wonderful stream of indian Astrology known as

Lal Kitab. The originator and author of this five divine

scriptures is Pt. Roop Chand Joshi ji of village Pharwala

(Distt Jalandhar) of Punjab. I joined this august group to

learn from the vast experience of the luminaries present

here, including your good-self. > >

Respectfully > Yograj Prabhakar >

> --- On Thu, 9/11/08, sanat2221 wrote: >sanat2221 >

Welcome >

> Thursday, September 11, 2008, 11:06 PM >

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> > > > > > >

> > Gwalior