Fwd: FW: Vedic astrology -- the greatest fraud on the Vedas!

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Vedic Astrology-Hyderabad , " Avtar Krishen Kaul "

<jyotirved wrote:

 

Shri Prem Chopra ji,

Namaste!

" Vedic astrology " has actually done a lot of harm to the Vedic

cultural fabric, thanks to overseas Vamadevas and local " Parasharas "

and " Varahamihras " . All that these " Vedic astrologers " are doing is

presenting Bharatavarsha as a country which is a synonym of

predictive gimmicks which they call Vedic astrology, when actually

there are neither Mesha, Vrisha etc. Rashis nor Mangal, Shani etc.

planets in any of the Vedas. Nor has any shastra advised us to

consult some soothsayer before embarking on a plan!

 

These " Vedic astrologers " are compelling us to celebrate our

festivals and muhurtas on wrong days and as such, we must not wait

for some Pope Gregory to put a full stop to such a non-sense but do

so ourelves.

Regards,

A K Kaul

Vedic Astrology-Hyderabad , " Prem Chopra "

<pramchopra1964@> wrote:

>

> ~~~ Om Namah Shivaayah Shivaayah Namah Om ~~~

>

> Dear Jyotirved

>

> God Bless U

>

> " Kabhi Kisi Ko Mukamal Jahan Nahi Milta " Because you are bound to

act your

> role in this earth not to avaluate the consequence. " What Matter

Most is

> How you see yourself " it is up to you how you interpret the

massage of

> divine litratures because I believe " Payase Ko Jaana Parta Hai

Saagar

> Chalkar Aaya Hi Nahi " . Take it in this sense that " Where there is

a will

> there is a way " you are only doing prayers towards Almighty and it

is up to

> thy how it will give you knowledge and massage of your destination

or clue

> of the future. When ever the person get stuck in egoism the it

becomes

> Misleading Application towards humanity in the Masses and give

false and

> negative response to the people. " Mat Soch Ishvar Ne Kya Diya Soch

Tumne

> auron ko kya Diya " . " Jese Karam Karega Vese Fal Dega Bhawan " "

Par theek

> time Pe " Not Jab Aap Chahain " " Pahale Atee thi Hale Dil Pe

Hassi, Par Ab

> Janab Kisi Baat par Nahi Ati " " Rasta Mil Gaya Mujhe Shamaye Dil

jalane Ke

> Baad, Pa Hee Loonga Tum Ko Hey Prabhu Jalane Tak Ya Jeevan Ke Bhujh

Jane Ke

> Baad " " Ise Kahate Hain Chit Bhi mari aur Pat Bhi Mari "

>

> thanks

>

> Pram Chopra

>

>

> On 7/16/08, jyotirved <jyotirved@> wrote:

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> > ** jyotirved [jyotirved@]

> > *Sent:* Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:56 PM

> > *To:* 'info@'; 'support@'

> > *Subject:* " Vedic astrology " -- the greatest fraud on the Vedas!

> >

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> >

> > Dear Sirs,

> >

> > I was amused to see your below ad about Hindu astrology!!

> >

> >

> >

> > To the best of my knowledge, Vedic Hindus never believed in

predictive

> > gimmicks much less the ones based on Mesha, Vrisha etc. Rashis!

> >

> >

> >

> > I am also intrigued to see your ad addressed to " all lovers of

Hindu/Vedic

> > astrology " .

> >

> >

> >

> > It appears that today's " Vedic astrologers " are quite ignorant

about the

> > real Vedic lore in spite of claiming to be " Vedic astrologers " !

They claim

> > that predictive gimmicks are " Vedic astrology " since " Jyotisham

is one of

> > the six angas of the Vedas " . As a proof in support of their

argument, they

> > claim further " The Vedanga Jyotisha by Lagadha is a Vedanga " hence

> > predictive astrology is Vedic!

> >

> >

> >

> > As a matter of fact, we do not find any mention of Mesha, Vrisha

etc.

> > rashis nor planets like Budha and/or the much dreaded Mangal and

Shani etc.

> > in any of the Vedas or the Brahmanas or the Upanishadas etc.

Nor for that

> > matter do we find any of these ingredients of " Vedic astrology "

in the

> > presumed " most ancient bible " of " Vedic astrologers " viz. the

Vedagna

> > Jyotsiha! The latter is actually the oldest indigenous work of

about 14thcentury BCE explaining the methodology of just calculating

mean tithi,

> > nakshatra and Tapah, Tapasya etc. months apart from the phenomena

of the two

> > Solstices and Equinoxes! As such, to say that predictive

gimmicks are

> > Vedic astrology is simply like putting on public display our

ignorance of

> > the real Vedic and Vedanga Jyotisha lore!

> >

> >

> >

> > This " science " of predictive gimmicks was thrust down the throat

of Hindus

> > by Greeks almost simultaneously with the invasion of Alexander

the Great!

> > And the Greeks were actually practicing Babylonian astrology

themselves!

> > That is why we find mention of Mesha etc. rashis for the first

time in the

> > Surya Sidhanta of Maya the mlechha! Prior to that work, there

are no Mesha

> > etc. Rashis nor Mangal, Shani etc. planets in any of the

sidhantas either!

> >

> >

> >

> > As you would be aware, yesteryears' Babylon was today's Iraq!

Similarly, a

> > neighbouring country of ours was the only Hindu kingdom in the

whole world

> > of yesteryears where the king was the Incarnation of Vishnu!!

And now

> > nobody is sure as to what type of a " kingdom " it is today!

Yesteryear's

> > " Vishnu " is a recluse/refugee in his own " Vishnuloka " which no

longer

> > belongs to him! BOTH THESE COUNTRIES HAD TO PAY DEARLY FOR THEIR

> > BELIEFS/FAITH IN " VEDIC ASTROLGY " AND " VEDIC ATROLOGERS " !

> >

> >

> >

> > I had to pay dearly for the same folly as a Kashmir Pandit

myself, since

> > I (in fact the whole KP community!) treated " Vedic astrologers "

as our

> > friends, philosophers and guides who were supposed to be able to

peep into

> > future in a jiffy! We had expected that we would certainly be

warned by

> > these jyotishis if anything evil had to befall the Kashmiri

community! But

> > then those jyotishis were all frauds and crooks ---who could not

see

> > anything else except their surging bank balance!

> >

> > I only hope and pray to Almighty that India i.e., Bharatavarsha

also does

> > not meet a similar fate, thanks to the untiring efforts of

overseas

> > " Vamadevas " and indigenous " Parasharas " and " Varahamihiras " etc.

who are

> > hell bent to propagate the fraud they call " Vedic astrology " ! It

is a fraud

> > since there are no Mesha etc. rashis or Mangal, Shani etc.

planets in any of

> > the Vedas nor have we ever been advised by any of our shastras

that we must

> > consult soothsayers before embarking on any plan!

> >

> >

> >

> > All this will be clear from the talk " Vedic astrology " ---the

greatest fraud

> > on the Vedas, which I am sending herewith!

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Avtar Krishen Kaul

> >

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