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Shri Sunil Bhattacharjyaji,

Namaskar!

You are again expressing your own views as the views of shastras

etc. without citing proper references.

 

E.g. Muhurtas are based on astronomy and they have nothing to do

with predictive gimmicks. Muhurta means a suitable time for

performin certain rituals and right from the Vedanga Jyotisha of

14th century BCE to Sidhanta Shiromani of Bhaskara (12th century

AD), astronomical works were produced for determining those suitable

timings.

Predictive gimmicks are an import. Horoscope matching is a curse

which has been going on in India for the last may be aboukt two or

three centuries only! Even astrological " bibles " like Brihat

Jatakam or Brihat Parashi (even the fake ones!) do not refer to any

such malady! As such, what type of tradition are you talking about?

 

Pl. substatniate your statements with proper references or otherwsie

stop eating such long yarns and wsting the time of everybody.

Dhanyavad.

AKK

 

HinduCalendar , Sunil Bhattacharjya

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> The Muhurta part of the astrology has been accepted by you and the

other members of this forum as everyday we see the concern for the

correct date etc. for the festivals. So you agree to the validity of

astrology. Your only grouse appears to be against the wrong use of

astrology like the nakshatrajeevis are doing in predicting the

future for a consideration as this is not doing any good to anybody

except making the nakshatrajeevis rich. I am sure that you are

aware of the old tradition of astrological consultations before

arranging marriage of a boy and a girl. I am referring to that

tradition and that I see a positive aspect in it. I feel that it

helps. India is the original home of astrology and this tradition in

modified form seem to have spread around the world. In western

astrology also people talk about the astrological compatibility of

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