Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Dear Mishra ji, Namaskar, Thanks for you msg. Now I will take from your concluding line >>>>>>> Forgive for wasting your valouable time.<<<<<< No, How you can even think that you are wasting our time. If it would have been so then I would have never invited you to our forum “scienceofastrolgy”. I know you may have feeling uneasy in your forum. So please do not shy and join our forum, where you will find many members in your support. >>>>>>> Predictive Astrology is a very popular science and being used very frequently by media.<<<<<<<< So popularity has noting to do with correctness. Need not to give examples. Media is only highlighting because they need viewer. They will show / print any thing where they get money. So again it is not the proof of correctness. >>>>>>>>>To understand it one has to study the its history while going through any encyclopedia/world book etc. In the chapter ASTRONOMY and Astrophysics, Astrology has appeared and their its history of development has been described. This is oldest Science which later on AGRONOMIST described as Pseudoscience. <<<<<<<< You are confusing like many others. Whatever is being classified as Pseudoscience is only predictive astrology and whatever you are referring is actually known as astronomy. But it was known as astrology because there was not too much development in astronomy hence there is no need for any other name. So don’t be confused. Astronomy is science and is being pursued by NASA, which was once upon a time being pursued by our sages as mentioned in Ved/puran etc. But after Varahmihir, whole astronomy which was a tough subject had been diverted to popular predictive astrology. So try to read any history book with this clarity. >>>>>>> I felt that this categorization by modern scientists made in hurry. <<<<<< So it is not a question of hurry, it is only your wrong understanding as you are mixing both subjects. >>>>I have tried to co relate with the principle of the ASTROLOGY to the extent of drawing the birth charts etc<<<< It is astronomical part like you say what was the weather condition or agriculture condition at the time of birth. >>>>>>>> but not got convinced with the principle of predictive Astrology. <<<<< why are you not convinced. If not convinced then have you ever asked as to why prediction is not correct. >>>>> The knowledge can be used for drawing inferences /trends to understand the human behavior than prediction of its future. It is similar to development of STATISTICAL MODEL for development of systems /laws for better management of the human civilization of the world than limited use of prediction of individual future.<<<<< So at least you are convinced that prediction of one individual can not be made except some trend. Then again what trend is it weather trend or trend of humans belonging to a sign (thus 12 trends). What is your stand? >>>> This is an idea only it may require lot of scientific research to establish this hypothesis. But this is worth it to this research than the research being done by the Scientist for development of goods and services to meet the material happiness of the human being.<<<<< So indirectly you are admitting that present status of predictive astrology is wrong and it requires scientific research, definitely in view of latest scientific informations. I am also saying this that whole setup of predictive astrology is bogus because it is erected on primitive knowledge. Thus if you remove single brick then whole astrology (predictive) will collapse. So continue to think in right direction that is logically, scientifically. >>>>>I am not an authority but nothing wrong by floating a new idea for other to think on this dimension also. <<<<<<< New dimension means old concept was either wrong or imperfect and need correction then again in view of latest information. >>>>> Why we should not think that what ever written in the old scriptures may require re look with applied additional inputs of Scientific development for improving our emotional happiness.<<<<<<< I am thinking only in this direction and wrote two original books “Jyotish Kitna sahi kitna galat” and “Astrology a science or myth”, which is being marketed in USA / UK etc. >>>>>> Astrology is one of the science which can be explored to provide a lead. This is my view but I can not prove it since do not have means to do research<<<<<< Lead can only be traced when you want to trace it. If you have blind faith in present situation then where is the question of new lead. No need to have means for research, only you have to open your mind and think logically. Read my book and your mind will open completely. I again invite you to join “” forum so that you may read some files in the file section of our forum. Why are you so hesitant? No means is required for joining. As you have also written to Sh Sablok ji hence I am also forwarding this msg to him. You both are not the member of our forum, hence your mail is not coming to our forum. So I am enclosing your msg below this for the benefit of the members of our forum who are silently reading these msgs. Thanks for very good interaction. Yours truly, Sanat 0751-2626868 Gwalior 14-7-08 Dear Sir, Predictive Astrology is a very popular science and being used very frequently by media. To understand it one has to study the its history while going through any encyclopedia/world book etc. In the chapter ASTRONOMY and Astrophysics, Astrology has appeared and their its history of development has been described. This is oldest Science which later on AGRONOMIST described as Pseudoscience. I felt that this categorization by modern scientists made in hurry. I have tried to co relate with the principle of the ASTROLOGY to the extent of drawing the birth charts etc but not got convinced with the principle of predictive Astrology. The knowledge can be used for drawing inferences /trends to understand the human behavior than prediction of its future. It is similar to development of STATISTICAL MODEL for development of systems /laws for better management of the human civilization of the world than limited use of prediction of individual future. This is an idea only it may require lot of scientific research to establish this hypothesis. But this is worth it to this research than the research being done by the Scientist for development of goods and services to meet the material happiness of the human being. I am not an authority but nothing wrong by floating a new idea for other to think on this dimension also. Why we should not think that what ever written in the old scriptures may require re look with applied additional inputs of Scientific development for improving our emotional happiness. Astrology is one of the science which can be explored to provide a lead. This is my view but I can not prove it since do not have means to do research. Forgive for wasting your valouable time. Regards OP MISHRA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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