Election predictions by supernatural means

[Guest guest]

narendra nayak here are the results of our challenges to predict election results.

Election

results and predictions

 

As usual, when elections do happen, all the predictors of

the future have a hay day.

The candidates, their well wishers and any one else worth

their salt flocks to the soothsayers- to find out their fate and the auspicious

time for the filing of nominations etc. So, in order to give an opportunity to

these people to show the efficacy of their so called sciences of prophecy the

Federation of Indian Rationalist Associations gave an opportunity to all

interested to forecast the results of the Karnataka Vidhan Sabha elections to

be held in the month of May,2008.

An award of Rs.1, 000, 000 was announced for those who could

predict correctly the results. The award would go as Rs.200, 000 each to five

entries which would be correct within the error limits of ±10%. If more than 5 such

entries were received the said amount would be equally divided among the

winners. Time was given up to the date of counting for the receipt of entries.

Some of questions were quite general while the most were very specific like the

total number of votes some important candidates would poll. Altogether 140

entries were received. Due to errors committed by some of the moffusil papers,

a good number of incomplete ones were also received. These had treated the

prediction challenge as a sort of quiz with the prizes, while it was actually

intended to be an opportunity to forecast election results by supernatural

methods. However, these entries were not rejected but were treated separately

as non serious ones. Such were 83 in number. Those with a serious attempt to

predict the results by any possible methods were the rest.

The evaluation

method was very simple; each right answer was awarded one mark. The margin of

error was allowed at ±10%.

Though it was specified that ranges were not acceptable, they too were taken

into account if they lay within this margin. The prize would be awarded to the

entries which would have at least 21 marks out of 25. The contestants were also

asked to indicate the method by which the predictions were made. This question

got the most interesting of the responses. Some relied on horoscopes prayers,

insight. One stated that he had a special method of touching water while asking

the questions and would give the answers by the vibrations. Another stated that

he had prayed for 2 hours to Allah before writing down the answers. One had

cast the horoscope of the state of Karnataka and had come his conclusions all

of which unfortunately were false and he could get no marks! Another from

Mandya had sent his entry based on his experience in politics as his wife

happened to be a vice chair person of a village panchayath.

The highest marks were obtained by non astrologers who

relied upon the newspaper forecasts and the TV channel exit polls to come to

their conclusions .Ms.Sujatha from Dharwar got the highest number of right

answers that is 9 out of 25. However this falls short by less than 50% of the

required number of right answers to be eligible for the award. Her predictions

were based on the past performances of the parties and the candidates.

Similarly the two entries which were awarded 8 marks each were based on factors

other than the supernatural! Only one of them admits that he had checked the

predictions of the astrologers along with all the surveys conducted by the

media.

By contrast most of those who relied upon their extra

sensory powers of prediction did miserably. The highest number of right answers

was 4 out of 25 and most of them got 2 or 3 marks because of their political

leanings towards the Bharathiya Janatha Party! This party seemed to have the

maximum support among the astrologers as well as the others. Among those who

got zeros who were about 30 in number all predicted a win for a non BJP party.

The same was the case with those who had 1 mark only. The final results were as

follows for the whole group without classifying the senders into categories:

33 - zero,18-one,42 - two,19- three,15- four,6 – five , 4-

six ,two got eight answers right while only got nine correct.

We regret that it is not possible to contact the individuals

who have sent their entries and request them to check the copies of their

entries with the results available in the media. My Rs. 1,000,000 remains with

me to be the award for predicting the results of the next election! The

questionnaire along with the terms and conditions was as below:

 

Opportunity for forecasters of supernatural abilities

 

As the Vidhan Sabha

elections for Karnataka approach in May, 2008 approach we do get a number of

forecasts of results. Some may base their findings on surveys and exit polls.

But, there are many who make forecasts based on claims to supernatural powers,

extra sensory perception, study of planetary configurations etc. We have

provided an opportunity for those who have supernatural powers to showcase

their talents and also win a sum of Rs.200, 000 (rupees two hundred thousand)

by providing right answers (within specified limits) for 90% of the following

queries. The terms and conditions are as below:

 

The

exact number of seats that each of the following parties will obtain ±5% (range is not

acceptable) a. Indian National Congress b. Bharathiya Janatha Party c.

Janatha Dal (secular) d.Bahujan Samajwadi Party e. Janatha Dal (United) f.

Communist Party of India(Marxist) g. Others ( specify party and number) The name and party of the person who will

become the next chief minister of Karnataka. (Only one name, more than one

is not acceptable). The number of votes that the following

candidates will poll (can be rounded off to the nearest hundred, but range

not acceptable).S.Bangarappa

at ShikaripuraYeddyurappa

at ShikaripuraH.D.Kumaraswamy

at RamanagaramMamatha

Nichani at RamangaramMallikarjun

Kharge at ChitapuraValmiki

Naik at ChitapuraDharam

Singh at JewargiDoddappa

Gowada Patil at JewargiSiddaramiaha

at VarunaL.Revanasiddhiah

at VarunaYadava

Shetty at MangaloreYogish

Bhat at Mangalore SouthYashwantha

Maroli at Mangalore SouthVatal

Nagaraj at ChamarajnagaraShakunthala

Shetty at PutturRamanatha

Rai at BantwalNagaraja

Shetty at Bantwal

 

Other terms and conditions:

All

entries must be sent by post or courier. Entries through email or sms or

telephone are not valid.Only

entries received before the date for counting will be accepted.Each

entry shall have the name and address of the person sending the same and

the system by which the predictions have been made should be clearly

mentioned.One

person shall be eligible for one entry only.The

results will be published and handouts given to all news papers. The

organizer shall not bear any responsibility for getting the results

published. In case the right answers do not conform

to the conditions set down, the prize money shall remain with the

organizer.All

rights for awarding the prize shall remain with the organizer and in case

more than one correct entry is received, up to 5 prizes of Rs.200, 000

each will be awarded. If all

correct entries beyond this number are received, the sum of Rs.1,000,000(

rupees one million) shall be equally divided among the winners.The

organizer shall not have any liability for entries not received, lost in

post, delayed or in any manner not communicated.In the

case of any dispute the jurisdiction shall be with the courts at Mangalore

city only.

 

This contest shall be open for active participation of entrants by

making actual predictions only. No debates, arguments, historical data or

evidences/claims of past performances shall be entertained.

 

 

Narendra

Nayak

President

Federation of Indian Rationalist Associations

13-9-1220/2, Vithoba Temple

Road

 

[Guest guest]

Resp. Ms. Dipika Ji,

Namaskar,

Thanks for your turning up after more then a week with result of

election and comments of Sh Nayak.

 

From the result and prediction of astrologers; members can very well

understood as to how astrologers are exploiting ignorance of general

public including leaders who are also part of public. Prediction of

astrologers are based on general knowledge, general assessment in a

situation like any knowledgeable person.

 

We in the forum, continuously analyzing roots of astrology and their

scientific aspect if any. Many points were raised by members cum

astrologer but they were only supporting any situation only due to

faith hence they are not willing to dig it but on the other hand

always try to cover up in the envelope of science due to popularity

of science. Actually, most of us are the first or second generation

in our family tree since development of human civilization having

exposure of science, whereas faith has been infused in our bone-

marrow or we may say our genetic structure has been twisted to have

faith on every thing, which is psychological effective. Thus it will

take lot of time to infuse knowledge in general public. In India

where 60% are illiterate and out of remaining 40% (say 30%) though

literate but without any scientific aptitude though they may have

studied science. General public is lured by count of head, which may

be more then 90%, and not by quality of mind in head. Hence they

become easy prey of astrologer.

 

I am continuously asking astrologers to join and analyze any

principle. You will find that many astrologer cum member of the forum

raise many points but they are not able to justify their stand except

faith. There is an old and popular song in Hindi, filmed on Devanand,

like " Shokhiyon mein ghola jaaye, phoolon ka shavaab; Usmei phir

milai jaaye thodi si sharaab, Hoga jo nasha phir tyaar, Voh pyar

hei………… " , which may be modified like " Agyanata (ignorance) mein ghola

jaaye, vishwas (faith) ka shavaab; Usmei phir milai jaaye business ki

sharaab, Hoga jo nasha phir tyaar, Voh Jyotish hei………… " Hi Hi Hi.

 

Like all others, initially I was also lured by the prediction but I

continuously studied to sort out any wrong conclusion. It was my

hobby hence I never fall in money business. After lot of labour I

could find the basic mistake………. and so on, which was included in my

books.

 

Thanks for bringing out very good information. I am consolidating

your articles in a file for the benefit of the members, so that such

information may not be lost in pile of msgs. I will shortly upload it.

 

Yours truly,

 

Sanat

 

PS: Members may please offer their comments on the article of Ms.

Dipika. They may also invite their friends including astrologers, so

that we may have their say too.

 

 

, " dipika blr "

<blr.aspirant wrote:

>

> narendra nayak

>

>

> here are the results of our challenges to predict election results.

>

> * ** **Election results and

predictions*

>

>

>

> As usual, when elections do happen, all the predictors of the

future have a

> hay day.

>

> The candidates, their well wishers and any one else worth their

salt flocks

> to the soothsayers- to find out their fate and the auspicious time

for the

> filing of nominations etc. So, in order to give an opportunity to

these

> people to show the efficacy of their so called sciences of prophecy

the

> Federation of Indian Rationalist Associations gave an opportunity

to all

> interested to forecast the results of the Karnataka Vidhan Sabha

elections

> to be held in the month of May,2008.

>

> An award of Rs.1, 000, 000 was announced for those who could predict

> correctly the results. The award would go as Rs.200, 000 each to

five

> entries which would be correct within the error limits of ±10%. If

more than

> 5 such entries were received the said amount would be equally

divided among

> the winners. Time was given up to the date of counting for the

receipt of

> entries. Some of questions were quite general while the most were

very

> specific like the total number of votes some important candidates

would

> poll. Altogether 140 entries were received. Due to errors committed

by some

> of the moffusil papers, a good number of incomplete ones were also

received.

> These had treated the prediction challenge as a sort of quiz with

the

> prizes, while it was actually intended to be an opportunity to

forecast

> election results by supernatural methods. However, these entries

were not

> rejected but were treated separately as non serious ones. Such were

83 in

> number. Those with a serious attempt to predict the results by any

possible

> methods were the rest.

>

> The evaluation method was very simple; each right answer was

awarded

> one mark. The margin of error was allowed at ±10%. Though it was

specified

> that ranges were not acceptable, they too were taken into account

if they

> lay within this margin. The prize would be awarded to the entries

which

> would have at least 21 marks out of 25. The contestants were also

asked to

> indicate the method by which the predictions were made. This

question got

> the most interesting of the responses. Some relied on horoscopes

prayers,

> insight. One stated that he had a special method of touching water

while

> asking the questions and would give the answers by the vibrations.

Another

> stated that he had prayed for 2 hours to Allah before writing down

the

> answers. One had cast the horoscope of the state of Karnataka and

had come

> his conclusions all of which unfortunately were false and he could

get no

> marks! Another from Mandya had sent his entry based on his

experience in

> politics as his wife happened to be a vice chair person of a village

> panchayath.

>

> The highest marks were obtained by* non astrologers* who relied

upon the

> newspaper forecasts and the TV channel exit polls to come to their

> conclusions .Ms.Sujatha from Dharwar got the highest number of

right answers

> that is 9 out of 25. However this falls short by less than 50% of

the

> required number of right answers to be eligible for the award. Her

> predictions were based on the past performances of the parties and

the

> candidates. Similarly the two entries which were awarded 8 marks

each were

> based on factors other than the supernatural! Only one of them

admits that

> he had checked the predictions of the astrologers along with all

the surveys

> conducted by the media.

>

> By contrast most of those who relied upon their extra sensory

powers of

> prediction did miserably. The highest number of right answers was 4

out of

> 25 and most of them got 2 or 3 marks because of their political

leanings

> towards the Bharathiya Janatha Party! This party seemed to have the

maximum

> support among the astrologers as well as the others. Among those

who got

> zeros who were about 30 in number all predicted a win for a non BJP

party.

> The same was the case with those who had 1 mark only. The final

results were

> as follows for the whole group without classifying the senders into

> categories:

>

> 33 - zero,18-one,42 - two,19- three,15- four,6 – five , 4- six ,two

got

> eight answers right while only got nine correct.

>

> We regret that it is not possible to contact the individuals who

have sent

> their entries and request them to check the copies of their entries

with the

> results available in the media. My Rs. 1,000,000 remains with me to

be the

> award for predicting the results of the next election! The

questionnaire

> along with the terms and conditions was as below:

>

>

>

> * **Opportunity for forecasters of supernatural abilities*

>

>

>

> As the Vidhan Sabha elections for Karnataka approach in May, 2008

approach

> we do get a number of forecasts of results. Some may base their

findings on

> surveys and exit polls. But, there are many who make forecasts

based on

> claims to supernatural powers, extra sensory perception, study of

planetary

> configurations etc. We have provided an opportunity for those who

have

> supernatural powers to showcase their talents and also win a sum of

Rs.200,

> 000 (rupees two hundred thousand) by providing right answers (within

> specified limits) for 90% of the following queries. The terms and

conditions

> are as below:

>

>

>

> 1. The exact number of seats that each of the following parties

will

> obtain ±5% (range is not acceptable) a. Indian National Congress

b.

> Bharathiya Janatha Party c. Janatha Dal (secular) d.Bahujan

Samajwadi Party

> e. Janatha Dal (United) f. Communist Party of India(Marxist) g.

Others (

> specify party and number)

> 2. The name and party of the person who will become the next

chief

> minister of Karnataka. (Only one name, more than one is not

acceptable).

> 3. The number of votes that the following candidates will poll

(can be

> rounded off to the nearest hundred, but range not acceptable).

> 1. S.Bangarappa at Shikaripura

> 2. Yeddyurappa at Shikaripura

> 3. H.D.Kumaraswamy at Ramanagaram

> 4. Mamatha Nichani at Ramangaram

> 5. Mallikarjun Kharge at Chitapura

> 6. Valmiki Naik at Chitapura

> 7. Dharam Singh at Jewargi

> 8. Doddappa Gowada Patil at Jewargi

> 9. Siddaramiaha at Varuna

> 10. L.Revanasiddhiah at Varuna

> 11. Yadava Shetty at Mangalore

> 12. Yogish Bhat at Mangalore South

> 13. Yashwantha Maroli at Mangalore South

> 14. Vatal Nagaraj at Chamarajnagara

> 15. Shakunthala Shetty at Puttur

> 16. Ramanatha Rai at Bantwal

> 17. Nagaraja Shetty at Bantwal

>

>

>

> Other terms and conditions:

>

> 1. All entries must be sent by post or courier. Entries through

email or

> sms or telephone are not valid.

> 2. Only entries received before the date for counting will be

accepted.

> 3. Each entry shall have the name and address of the person

sending the

> same and the system by which the predictions have been made

should be

> clearly mentioned.

> 4. One person shall be eligible for one entry only.

> 5. The results will be published and handouts given to all news

papers.

> The organizer shall not bear any responsibility for getting the

results

> published.

> 6. In case the right answers do not conform to the conditions

set down,

> the prize money shall remain with the organizer.

> 7. All rights for awarding the prize shall remain with the

organizer and

> in case more than one correct entry is received, up to 5 prizes

of Rs.200,

> 000 each will be awarded. If all correct entries beyond this

number are

> received, the sum of Rs.1,000,000( rupees one million) shall be

equally

> divided among the winners.

> 8. The organizer shall not have any liability for entries not

received,

> lost in post, delayed or in any manner not communicated.

> 9. In the case of any dispute the jurisdiction shall be with the

courts

> at Mangalore city only.

>

>

>

> This contest shall be open for active

participation

> of entrants by making actual predictions only. No debates,

arguments,

> historical data or evidences/claims of past performances shall be

> entertained.

>

>

>

>

>

>

Narendra

> Nayak

>

>

> President

>

>

Federation

> of Indian Rationalist Associations

>

>

> 13-9-1220/2,

> Vithoba Temple Road

>