Accuracy in predictive astrology ? A Test.

June 8, 2008

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Dear Shri Deshmukh bhai,

Namaskar!

<Astrology has so far failed in establishing its

scientific credentials>

A lie has no legs to stand upon! Astrology is a fraud of the worst

order, especially the so called " Vedic astrology " since there are no

Mesha etc. Rashis in the Vedas nor any references to any predictions

in any of the Puranas!

Varahamihira was its proponent in India and he appears to have

been " brain-washed " more by the Greeks than by his Indian counte-

parts!

While preparing the " janmapatri " of " Phalit-jyotisha " the Creator

Brahmaji Himself had subjected it to " alpayu-yoga " since this fraud

has been floursihing just over the last couple of thousand years in

India, which, compared with the geological time of hundreds of

thousands of years, is an infinitisimally miniscule part of the

same. This jyotisha business will meet its doom -- whether natural

or unnatural---remains to be seen---shortly! That is a

bhavishyavani by a " Vedic non-astrologer " since this astrology

business has done the maximum damage to our cultural fabric

especially the Vedic/Hindu calendar. Anything that is harmful to

the Vedic culture cannopt survive for long. All it needs is a bit

of a push from the real Vedic Hindus. As such, the earlier this

fraud named Vedic astrology is annihilated/uprooted with all its

tentacles from our ethos, in spite of jagadgurus and tantriks and

yogis etc. etc. supporting that fraud with all the might at their

command---the better for the real Vedic culture.

With regards,

A K Kaul

HinduCalendar , vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv

wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> While a discussion about the success or failures in

> astrological predictions in terms of percentage is on

> in the Forum, I have in this regard an interesting

> news published by the Maharashtra Andha-shraddha

> Nirmulan Samitee in their NEWSLETTER ISSUE # 14. I

> think there are some Practising Astrologers who may

> like to take on this Open Challenge.

> ANS NEWSLETTER

> ISSUE # 14

> In this issue........

> • Open Challenge To Astrology

> • Portable Planetarium

>

> OPEN CHALLENGE TO ASTROLOGY

> Barring a few exceptions, almost all societies in the

> whole world assume that

> astrology has basis of scientific principles. This

> fact has been challenged time and

> time again by scientific communities of the western

> world. However, Indian scientific

> community had never taken heed of this fraudulent

> business so far. But this is the

> first time in India, ANS is conducting a systematic

> scientific investigation under the

> able guidance of noted astrophysicist Dr. Jayant

> Narlikar and with the active

> participation of Inter University Centre for Astronomy

> and Astrophysics (IUCAA) and

> Statistics Department of Pune University. ANS had

> evolved the methodology for

> testing the scientific basis of astrology through

> statistical methods under the

> guidance of statistical dept. Shri Prakash Ghatpande

> has been nominated as a

> coordinator for this project.

> ANS has collected the requisite data like birth date,

> birth place, etc, of 100 students

> studying in special schools for mentally retarded

> children with the signed consent of

> their parents. ANS has also gathered similar type of

> data of 100 students who had

> scored more than 70 % consistently in each examination

> conducted by the school

> authorities and have been termed as intelligent

> students attending normal schools.

> ANS is of the opinion that intelligence and mental

> retardation are very distinct and

> prominent characteristics of a person which determines

> the future of a person. If that

> is so, the same should have been reflected in any

> futuristic predictions. As such ANS

> invites publicly to all those involved in prediction

> business i.e. noted astrologers,

> astrology institutions, professionals in astrology

> etc, to participate in the scientific

> tests. ANS will send the details of 40 students chosen

> randomly to the

> persons/institutions willing to participate in the

> test along with the guidelines and

> criteria. Based on the data provided, the receivers

> are required to predict whether the

> data belongs to intelligent student or otherwise. If

> the predictions are at least 90 %

> accurate, then only the astrology can be subjected for

> further tests to ascertain its

> 2

> scientific basis. If it fails to achieve 70 %

> accuracy, then it can be safely assumed that

> astrology is a load of hokum. If the predictions lie

> between 70 to 90 % range we can

> then retest the same with still larger samples of

> data.

> The above information was disseminated in a press

> conference held in Pune. Dr

> Jayant Narlikar, Prof Kunte of Pune University, Dr

> Narendra Dabholkar and Prakash

> Ghatpande attended the press conference. This

> information was also passed on to

> almost all districts of Maharashtra through our

> network of activists. The enquiries

> have started pouring in. Statistical Department will

> test the submitted information by

> using double blind testing methods. Those who are

> still interested in participating the

> tests are requested to contact ANS activists for

> further information and guidelines.

> The participants will be provided the desired data of

> students after 15th June.

> Astrology has so far failed in establishing its

> scientific credentials. No institution or a

> studious person of this profession has bothered to do

> any systematic research in this

> field nor has collected statistical data in support of

> astrology. In spite of these facts,

> UGC has approved the conduct of courses in Astrology

> in a few universities and

> colleges since it was insisted by the then HRD

> Minister Dr. Murali Manohar Joshi of

> BJP. The present UPA Govt promised to review this fact

> as soon as they assumed

> power a few years back. So far nothing has been done

> in this regard. ANS had

> recently revived this issue and had written letters to

> HRD minister Arjun Singh, Shri

> Prakash Karat and Shri Sitaram Yechuri requesting them

> to reassess the action

> taken by earlier ministry. ANS is on the verge of

> initiating movement in this regard.

> In fact, the British Govt is thinking of replacing the

> Fraudulent Medium Act, 1951 with

> a new Act which will empower to lodge a case in the

> Court of Law if the predictions

> did not come true. If an astrologer predicts a happy

> marriage and at the end if it turns

> out to be inaccurate the couple can go to court

> against the astrologer. The Bill will be

> passed in the House of Lords soon. However the

> fraudulent professionals are worried

> about their future and livelihood. It is a 40 million

> Sterling Pound business in UK.

> Incidentally ANS is also demanding to bring the

> astrologers under the purview of Law

> for last so many years.

> E Mail ID of the Project Co-ordinator Shri Prakash

> Ghatpande is : soudnya

>

> Regards,

> VB Deshmukh

>

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>

June 9, 2008

Resp. Ms. Dipika Ji,

Namaskar,

Thanks for importing some valuable information to our forum. I hope

members will think a fresh. I think only solution to silent

astrologers from befooling and cheating business would be court of

law. As soon as they will be challenged for any failure of marriage,

as pointed out in the article, only then they and public will realize

the hollow foundation of astrology.

I am uploading your articles in SOA-18 in file section. Hope you will

like it and future members may also read without searching the pile

of msg. Keep up your stamina against predictive astrology.

Thanks

Yours

Sanat

PS : Members may please offer their views on various msg (compiled in

file section under SOA______. Even if they have opposite views, their

views are always regarded. Remember that questioning a point is the

first step of learning. So please come out and raise voice and

questions in support of astrology if not against astrology. This is

the only forum where every view has space. New members may also

invite their friends. I was also waiting the comments of Sh. Ramadas

ji on Jemini and on my msg. but he left the forum. I am unable to

understand as to why socalled astrologers are more interested in

cheating or self boasting instead of some discussion, which was our

old tradition and known as shastrath.

Now some member may come forward with his views.

, " dipika blr "

<blr.aspirant wrote:

>

> vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv

>

> Cc: Prakash Ghatpande <soudnya, Rationalist-

owner

>