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Dear Darshaney ji Namaste,I agree with your following words " I beleive that

fake astrology or fake astrologers may be of disrepute but innovated astrology may be a boon for all. " I request mr krishna i.e astrokrishna who has claimed innovations in astrology (i.e identifying diabetes) to scientifically put to test his theories.

However, regarding your statement that vedas conclusively say earth is moving, please post the link to this text source (so that members can verify your claim).I wish to bring to your notice that Nirukta by Sage Yaskacharya is a book on etymology (study/origin of words found in vedas roughly believed to be written around 1000 BC.) and its interpretation cannot be taken to be that of the vedas. If such a thing was clearly mentioned in vedas, it would be reasonable to assume Brahmagupta and Varahamihira would have had no problems with Aryabhata's then path-breaking statements.

However your words " Instead of astrology is the science or shashtra, faith or fiction I think useful is to discuss on its rationality and relevancy.

Any of the Dsha system may not be

trust worthy for even practical reasons but even yet astrology is in utility since Ist AD and has survied for by now . " is what strikes me the most. Murder, rape, dowry & deception

has found its place in society since time immemorial does not mean society should continue it.I appreciate your work on ritu based approach.RegardsDipsOn Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 9:04 AM, darshaney lokesh <darshaneylokesh wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear members, Namastey.Very sad! It is not correct to quote Vedas in support of a stationary earth.Here I put a shloka from Yajurved 3rd Adhyay 6th Mantr and that " Aayam gou prishnirkrameedasadan

mataram purah. Pitaram ch pryantswah. " (Be pronounced in vedic sanskrit.I may be some what wrong in quoting shloka in roman eng.) 'Gachhati, iti gou' and according to the Nirukta of sage

Yaskachary 'Gourity prithivya namdheyam' which clearifies that the earth is a 'gou' i.e. ' a moving'. To explain our conclusions, and quoting scriptures without proper knowledge of the same is

not good. Achala is not the word of vedic sanskrit and it is nonewhere found in the Vedas.I donot claim the complete reading of Vedas but as much I could read so far I have not found the word 'Achala' there.

Did anybody find the same in any mantra? Dipica ji may please quote the mantra. Swami Viveka Nand and like personalities have quoted even Puranas and others in the name of Vedas but such

quotation will not do.VEDas means VEDas and nothing else. Instead of astrology is the science or shashtra, faith or fiction I think useful is to discuss on its rationality and relevancy.

Any of the Dsha system may not be

trust worthy for even practical reasons but even yet astrology is in utility since Ist AD and has survied for by now . This may not be discarded on ways and conclusions of one person. As for the Panchang Sudhar we have formed a SAMITI and are

doing our best for purpose of celebrating correct festivals on a Ritu Based correct calendar. In same way, I request all, a SAMITI of erudite persons must come forward for conclusions .Transite based study of

planets (of astrological sense) as advocated by Sadhu Satyaacharya and as explained by Sri HR Shankar (Ref-The Diurnal Horoscope vide AM Jan 1983 page 19) may be of some use.One is always welcome to

express his/her views/case studies made by but for conclusion the compitant samiti may only be trust worthy.The Samiti may even innovate astrology. I beleive that

fake astrology or fake astrologers may be of disrepute but innovated astrology may be a boon for all. In Science or Shashtra whenever we are not logical and principly notright then we also

are the, same the fake astrologers or any thing. This also disposes the request made by Sri Ajai Katesariya ,The Vaidhanic Secy and Advisor of Akhil Bhartiya Panchang Sudhar Samiti

(A.B.P.S.S.). Aum sham. Darshaney Lokesh Maha Sachive, A.B.P.S.S. dipika blr <blr.aspirant wrote:

We know that Vedas declare that earth is stationary and sun is moving. We know the word 'achalaa' for earth, we also know the horses for the 'ratha' of sun. In spite of such ideas in Vedas, astronomers like Aryabhatta in fifth century declared, as mentioned above, that earth is moving and sun is stationary, and explained how lunar and solar eclipses take place. The priestly class saw danger to their livelihood, if Vedas were found fallible. They organized a crusade against Aryabhatta, in two ways.

Brahmagupta (c. 598 A.D.) criticized and asked, if earth is moving, where is it going to and by which way. Varahmihir (c. 600 A.D.) wrote, if earth is moving the birds would not reach their nests in the evening. If the earth is rotating fast towards east, the flags would always fly towards west, and if it is rotating slowly,

it would not complete rotation in 24 hours. Same arguments were repeated by another acharya, Lallacharya in seventh- eighth century. He also said if earth moves towards East, the arrow shot in the sky would fall on the West and that the clouds would move West. If earth is moving slowly, how would it complete rotation?

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Different reasons are given for the ups and downs in a man's life for his joys and sorrows. It is similar to finding out the different causes of the ailment he suffers from. The physician will explain that the disease is due to an imbalance in the "dhatus". The mantravadin will say that it is due to the gods being displeased with the patient, while the astrologer will observe that it is all in his (the patient's) stars. The pandit versed in Dharmasastra will explain that the illness is the fruit of the man's past actions, his karma. And the psychologist will express the view that the bodily affliction is related to an emotional disturbance. What is the true cause?

All these different causes may be valid. All of them together go to create an experience. When it rains it becomes wet and the place is swarmed with winged white ants. Frogs croak. All these are indicators of the rain. Many outward signs manifest themselves as the fruits of our past karma. They are all related to one another. The course of the planets governing our life is in accordance with our karma. We come to know the consequences of our past actions in previous births in various ways. Astrological calculations help us to find out such consequences as indicated by the heavenly bodies.

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sb , "dipika blr" <blr.aspirant wrote:>> Dear Darshaney ji Namaste,> > I agree with your following words " I beleive that fake astrology or fake> astrologers may be of disrepute but innovated astrology may be a boon for> all."> I request mr krishna i.e astrokrishna who has claimed innovations in> astrology (i.e identifying diabetes) to scientifically put to test his> theories.> > However, regarding your statement that vedas conclusively say earth is> moving, please post the link to this text source (so that members can verify> your claim).> > *I wish to bring to your notice that Nirukta by Sage Yaskacharya is a book> on etymology (study/origin of words found in vedas roughly believed to be> written around 1000 BC.) and its interpretation cannot be taken to be that> of the vedas. If such a thing was clearly mentioned in vedas, it would be> reasonable to assume Brahmagupta and Varahamihira would have had no problems> with Aryabhata's then path-breaking statements. *> > However your words "Instead of astrology is the science or shashtra, faith> or fiction I think *useful is to discuss on its rationality and relevancy*.> Any of the Dsha system may not be trust worthy for even practical> reasons but *even yet astrology is in utility since Ist AD and has survied *> *for by now* ." is what strikes me the most. Murder, rape, dowry & > deception> has found its place in society since time immemorial does not mean society> should continue it.> > I appreciate your work on ritu based approach.> > Regards> Dips> > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 9:04 AM, darshaney lokesh <> darshaneylokesh wrote:> > > Dear members,> > Namastey.Very sad! It is not correct to quote Vedas in> > support of a stationary earth.Here I put a shloka from Yajurved 3rd> > Adhyay 6th Mantr and that " *Aayam gou prishnirkrameedasadan *> > *mataram purah. Pitaram ch pryantswah."*(Be pronounced in vedic> > sanskrit.I may be some what wrong in quoting shloka in roman eng.)> > *'Gachhati, iti gou'* and according to the Nirukta of> > sage> > Yaskachary *'Gourity prithivya namdheyam'* which clearifies that> > the earth is a 'gou' i.e. ' a moving'. To explain our conclusions, and> > quoting scriptures without proper knowledge of the same is not good.> > Achala is not the word of vedic sanskrit and it is nonewhere found in> > the Vedas.I donot claim the complete reading of Vedas but as much> > I could read so far I have not found the word 'Achala' there.> > Did anybody find the same in any mantra? Dipica ji may> > please quote the mantra. Swami Viveka Nand and like personalities> > have quoted even Puranas and others in the name of Vedas but such> > quotation will not do.*VEDas means VEDas and nothing else*.> > Instead of astrology is the science or shashtra, faith or> > fiction I think *useful is to discuss on its rationality and relevancy*.> > Any of the Dsha system may not be trust worthy for even practical> > reasons but even yet astrology is in utility since Ist AD and has survied> > for by now . This may not be discarded on ways and conclusions of one> > person. As for the Panchang Sudhar we have formed a SAMITI and are> > doing our best for purpose of celebrating correct festivals on a Ritu> > Based correct calendar. In same way, I request all, a SAMITI of erudite> > persons must come forward for conclusions .Transite based study of> > planets (of astrological sense) as advocated by Sadhu Satyaacharya> > and as explained by Sri HR Shankar (Ref-The Diurnal Horoscope vide> > AM Jan 1983 page 19) may be of some use.One is always welcome to> > express his/her views/case studies made by but for conclusion the> > compitant samiti may only be trust worthy.The Samiti may even innovate> > astrology. I beleive that fake astrology or fake astrologers may be of> > disrepute but innovated astrology may be a boon for all. In Science or> > Shashtra whenever we are not logical and principly notright then we also> > are the, same the fake astrologers or any thing.> > This also disposes the request made by Sri Ajai Katesariya> > ,The Vaidhanic Secy and Advisor of Akhil Bhartiya Panchang Sudhar Samiti> > (A.B.P.S.S.).> > Aum sham.> >> >> > Darshaney Lokesh> > Maha> > Sachive,> >> > A.B.P.S.S.> >> > *dipika blr blr.aspirant* wrote:> >> > We know that Vedas declare that earth is stationary and sun is moving.> > We know the word 'achalaa' for earth, we also know the horses for the> > 'ratha' of sun. In spite of such ideas in Vedas, astronomers like Aryabhatta> > in fifth century declared, as mentioned above, that earth is moving and sun> > is stationary, and explained how lunar and solar eclipses take place. The> > priestly class saw danger to their livelihood, if Vedas were found fallible.> > They organized a crusade against Aryabhatta, in two ways.> > Brahmagupta (c. 598 A.D.) criticized and asked, if earth is moving, where> > is it going to and by which way. Varahmihir (c. 600 A.D.) wrote, if earth is> > moving the birds would not reach their nests in the evening. If the earth is> > rotating fast towards east, the flags would always fly towards west, and if> > it is rotating slowly, it would not complete rotation in 24 hours. Same> > arguments were repeated by another acharya, Lallacharya in seventh- eighth> > century. He also said if earth moves towards East, the arrow shot in the sky> > would fall on the West and that the clouds would move West. If earth is> > moving slowly, how would it complete rotation?> >> > .> >> >> > ------------------------------> > Messenger blocked? Want to chat? 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