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>>. It was on the advice of

Vasishtha Muni

that Dasharatha decided to anoint Rama as the Yuvraja the very next

day, as it was "Tishya" i.e. Pushya nakshata then. From this

anecdote, it is clear that either Vasishtha Muni did not know as to

what was going to happen to Dasharatha by declaring Bhagwan Rama as a

crown-prince or Vasishtha kept quiet deliberately since he did not

want to interfere in the divine dispensation!<<From Avtarjis file that you have uploaded sanatji,its obvious ancient bharathians did use nakshatramas,which are light years away.In fact Lord Rama as an avataar showed humanity about righteous living and in particular eka patni dharma.Becoz guys were being polygamist.Astronomical position of the sun and moon were used to calculate thithis and all of the relevant material for panchangam aka almanac.Its cool in retrospective to comment or critique after the event is over,but successful people all the time use all the resources for success in life.Astrology is one such tool,to be ahead in life and clever people take the advice as directional trend or clues what might happen.Becoz heart of heart everyone know,only god knows it all.That is the ultimate science of god.sb

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Resp. SB Ji,

Namaskar,

Thanks for recharging your active participation,

I have selected some points from your msg for offering my comments.

Though actually we have diverted from analyzing the astrology

(predictive) to religion. And certainly religion is a matter of faith

hence no question. Astrology (predictive) is only being questioned

because you (not you personally but astrologers) claiming it as a

science hence only that portion is being examined in the forum.

 

Regarding your comments " my inability to make sanatji

understand ,that sanathana dharma teaching were infused with religious

precepts.And by default astrology is religion,a wing of sanathana

dharma. " I have already commented earlier and the question is not

whether you are able to convince me or not. Question is whether

astrology is science or not. You are again and again linking

astrology with religion whereas it is not correct because in which

religion it was stated that ask astrologer for any prediction so that

he may be religious. I think you are not able to disassociate

astrology (predictive) from astronomy. I am not questioning astronomy

which was known as astrology in primitive age.

 

By your comment " By analysing a chart,a astrologer is supposed to

help a jivatma,to come closer to god and thereby finally realise the

paramatma.

Why not look at astrologers as an active agent,who is actually

making a jiva come close to god. " you want to say that astrologer are

actually self-appointed agent of God, who will cheat others in the

name of planets and when individual is completely exhausted due to

his non-functioning on the advise of astrologers then definitely he

will search some ways and he will go to temple, which is the aim of

the God. At least I am not convinced.

 

At one end you are saying that " Vasishtha kept quiet deliberately

since he did not

want to interfere in the divine dispensation " and on the other hand

you are pleading astrologer to disclose destiny that too wrongly that

too without any solid principle that too when you know ……………

 

Again your comments is wrong in view of your earlier stand " its

obvious ancient bharathians did use nakshatramas,which are light

years away. " . I will like to know where it is written that nakshatras

are lightyearss away. Please do not intermingle scientific knowledge

with the knowledge of sages.

 

I have incorporated many points raised by you one after another

(refer SOA________ in file section). But you yourself can find that

how badly you have mixed your concept of predictive astrology with

religion and using science in support of your stand though it may be

against the concept of sages.

 

But anyway you may continue and members will like to reply, learn as

they please.

 

Waiting for your more observations

Thanks

Sanat

25-4-08

 

 

 

, " sureshbalaraman "

<sureshbalaraman wrote:

>

> >>. It was on the advice of Vasishtha Muni

> that Dasharatha decided to anoint Rama as the Yuvraja the very next

> day, as it was " Tishya " i.e. Pushya nakshata then. From this

> anecdote, it is clear that either Vasishtha Muni did not know as to

> what was going to happen to Dasharatha by declaring Bhagwan Rama as

a

> crown-prince or Vasishtha kept quiet deliberately since he did not

> want to interfere in the divine dispensation!<<

>

> From Avtarjis file that you have uploaded sanatji,its obvious

ancient

> bharathians did use nakshatramas,which are light years away.In fact

Lord

> Rama as an avataar showed humanity about righteous living and in

> particular eka patni dharma.Becoz guys were being

> polygamist.Astronomical position of the sun and moon were used to

> calculate thithis and all of the relevant material for panchangam

aka

> almanac.Its cool in retrospective to comment or critique after the

event

> is over,but successful people all the time use all the resources for

> success in life.Astrology is one such tool,to be ahead in life and

> clever people take the advice as directional trend or clues what

might

> happen.Becoz heart of heart everyone know,only god knows it

all.That is

> the ultimate science of god.

>

> sb

>

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>>Please do not intermingle scientific knowledge with the knowledge of

sages.<<

 

Sanatji,i am not sure who is not getting the picture here?On the one

hand you are questioning sages like

Varahamihira,Parashara,Maitreya,Saravali,Bharadwaja etc accountable to

scientific enquiry when they are dead and gone or probably re-incarnated

as SB,Sanatji or...who ever...to their exemplary classics whic is viable

in todays hectic life.These are inter-linked to religion.They form part

of the Panchanga.Now if panchanga itself is not science,i better lock

myself up,in a lunatic asylum hee hee.

 

You are constantly bombarding about fake astrologer making use of

peoples gullibility..that is definitely bad.Better to have Jyotish

degree in under-graduate studies,Master,Phd..then they are

certified..and people should approach only certified,licensed astrologer

would be the way out !!

 

There absolutely gems in south india who predict thru jyotisham.They are

dedicated lot.

 

sb

 

 

 

, " sanat2221 "

<sanatkumar_jain wrote:

>

> Resp. SB Ji,

> Namaskar,

> Thanks for recharging your active participation,

> I have selected some points from your msg for offering my comments.

> Though actually we have diverted from analyzing the astrology

> (predictive) to religion. And certainly religion is a matter of faith

> hence no question. Astrology (predictive) is only being questioned

> because you (not you personally but astrologers) claiming it as a

> science hence only that portion is being examined in the forum.

>

> Regarding your comments " my inability to make sanatji

> understand ,that sanathana dharma teaching were infused with religious

> precepts.And by default astrology is religion,a wing of sanathana

> dharma. " I have already commented earlier and the question is not

> whether you are able to convince me or not. Question is whether

> astrology is science or not. You are again and again linking

> astrology with religion whereas it is not correct because in which

> religion it was stated that ask astrologer for any prediction so that

> he may be religious. I think you are not able to disassociate

> astrology (predictive) from astronomy. I am not questioning astronomy

> which was known as astrology in primitive age.

>

> By your comment " By analysing a chart,a astrologer is supposed to

> help a jivatma,to come closer to god and thereby finally realise the

> paramatma.

> Why not look at astrologers as an active agent,who is actually

> making a jiva come close to god. " you want to say that astrologer are

> actually self-appointed agent of God, who will cheat others in the

> name of planets and when individual is completely exhausted due to

> his non-functioning on the advise of astrologers then definitely he

> will search some ways and he will go to temple, which is the aim of

> the God. At least I am not convinced.

>

> At one end you are saying that " Vasishtha kept quiet deliberately

> since he did not

> want to interfere in the divine dispensation " and on the other hand

> you are pleading astrologer to disclose destiny that too wrongly that

> too without any solid principle that too when you know ……………

>

> Again your comments is wrong in view of your earlier stand " its

> obvious ancient bharathians did use nakshatramas,which are light

> years away. " . I will like to know where it is written that nakshatras

> are lightyearss away. Please do not intermingle scientific knowledge

> with the knowledge of sages.

>

> I have incorporated many points raised by you one after another

> (refer SOA________ in file section). But you yourself can find that

> how badly you have mixed your concept of predictive astrology with

> religion and using science in support of your stand though it may be

> against the concept of sages.

>

> But anyway you may continue and members will like to reply, learn as

> they please.

>

> Waiting for your more observations

> Thanks

> Sanat

> 25-4-08

>

>

>

> , " sureshbalaraman "

> sureshbalaraman@ wrote:

> >

> > >>. It was on the advice of Vasishtha Muni

> > that Dasharatha decided to anoint Rama as the Yuvraja the very next

> > day, as it was " Tishya " i.e. Pushya nakshata then. From this

> > anecdote, it is clear that either Vasishtha Muni did not know as to

> > what was going to happen to Dasharatha by declaring Bhagwan Rama as

> a

> > crown-prince or Vasishtha kept quiet deliberately since he did not

> > want to interfere in the divine dispensation!<<

> >

> > From Avtarjis file that you have uploaded sanatji,its obvious

> ancient

> > bharathians did use nakshatramas,which are light years away.In fact

> Lord

> > Rama as an avataar showed humanity about righteous living and in

> > particular eka patni dharma.Becoz guys were being

> > polygamist.Astronomical position of the sun and moon were used to

> > calculate thithis and all of the relevant material for panchangam

> aka

> > almanac.Its cool in retrospective to comment or critique after the

> event

> > is over,but successful people all the time use all the resources for

> > success in life.Astrology is one such tool,to be ahead in life and

> > clever people take the advice as directional trend or clues what

> might

> > happen.Becoz heart of heart everyone know,only god knows it

> all.That is

> > the ultimate science of god.

> >

> > sb

> >

>

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>>At one end you are saying that " Vasishtha kept quiet deliberately

since he did not

want to interfere in the divine dispensation " and on the other hand

you are pleading astrologer to disclose destiny that too wrongly that

too without any solid principle that too when you know ……………<<

 

I quoted from Avtarjis article that you have uploaded in the file

section.Try not to mis-represent,and somehow i am not having a good

connection,as your motive to know whether astrology is a predictive

science or not,is genuine.For one you are a jain by religion,what

business you have interfering with hinduism jyotisham?In other words you

are being dis-reputable to Hindus.Why dont you read jains teaching and

keep quiet,hee hee...i dunno if jains have jyotish and if they do have

who is the author?do jains have calendars?do jains have remedies for bad

grahas?I am feeling you are upto no good here,trying to ridicule hindus

using jyotisham..correct me if i am wrong hi hi..

 

sb

 

 

, " sanat2221 "

<sanatkumar_jain wrote:

>

> Resp. SB Ji,

> Namaskar,

> Thanks for recharging your active participation,

> I have selected some points from your msg for offering my comments.

> Though actually we have diverted from analyzing the astrology

> (predictive) to religion. And certainly religion is a matter of faith

> hence no question. Astrology (predictive) is only being questioned

> because you (not you personally but astrologers) claiming it as a

> science hence only that portion is being examined in the forum.

>

> Regarding your comments " my inability to make sanatji

> understand ,that sanathana dharma teaching were infused with religious

> precepts.And by default astrology is religion,a wing of sanathana

> dharma. " I have already commented earlier and the question is not

> whether you are able to convince me or not. Question is whether

> astrology is science or not. You are again and again linking

> astrology with religion whereas it is not correct because in which

> religion it was stated that ask astrologer for any prediction so that

> he may be religious. I think you are not able to disassociate

> astrology (predictive) from astronomy. I am not questioning astronomy

> which was known as astrology in primitive age.

>

> By your comment " By analysing a chart,a astrologer is supposed to

> help a jivatma,to come closer to god and thereby finally realise the

> paramatma.

> Why not look at astrologers as an active agent,who is actually

> making a jiva come close to god. " you want to say that astrologer are

> actually self-appointed agent of God, who will cheat others in the

> name of planets and when individual is completely exhausted due to

> his non-functioning on the advise of astrologers then definitely he

> will search some ways and he will go to temple, which is the aim of

> the God. At least I am not convinced.

>

> At one end you are saying that " Vasishtha kept quiet deliberately

> since he did not

> want to interfere in the divine dispensation " and on the other hand

> you are pleading astrologer to disclose destiny that too wrongly that

> too without any solid principle that too when you know ……………

>

> Again your comments is wrong in view of your earlier stand " its

> obvious ancient bharathians did use nakshatramas,which are light

> years away. " . I will like to know where it is written that nakshatras

> are lightyearss away. Please do not intermingle scientific knowledge

> with the knowledge of sages.

>

> I have incorporated many points raised by you one after another

> (refer SOA________ in file section). But you yourself can find that

> how badly you have mixed your concept of predictive astrology with

> religion and using science in support of your stand though it may be

> against the concept of sages.

>

> But anyway you may continue and members will like to reply, learn as

> they please.

>

> Waiting for your more observations

> Thanks

> Sanat

> 25-4-08

>

>

>

> , " sureshbalaraman "

> sureshbalaraman@ wrote:

> >

> > >>. It was on the advice of Vasishtha Muni

> > that Dasharatha decided to anoint Rama as the Yuvraja the very next

> > day, as it was " Tishya " i.e. Pushya nakshata then. From this

> > anecdote, it is clear that either Vasishtha Muni did not know as to

> > what was going to happen to Dasharatha by declaring Bhagwan Rama as

> a

> > crown-prince or Vasishtha kept quiet deliberately since he did not

> > want to interfere in the divine dispensation!<<

> >

> > From Avtarjis file that you have uploaded sanatji,its obvious

> ancient

> > bharathians did use nakshatramas,which are light years away.In fact

> Lord

> > Rama as an avataar showed humanity about righteous living and in

> > particular eka patni dharma.Becoz guys were being

> > polygamist.Astronomical position of the sun and moon were used to

> > calculate thithis and all of the relevant material for panchangam

> aka

> > almanac.Its cool in retrospective to comment or critique after the

> event

> > is over,but successful people all the time use all the resources for

> > success in life.Astrology is one such tool,to be ahead in life and

> > clever people take the advice as directional trend or clues what

> might

> > happen.Becoz heart of heart everyone know,only god knows it

> all.That is

> > the ultimate science of god.

> >

> > sb

> >

>

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Resp SB,

Thanks for your many msgs but without any concrete discussion on

predictive astrology except religious faith. Hence I am not

commenting on your various msgs regarding colour of mars, affect of

sun, Jainism, shankaracharya etc. except following clarification.

 

>>Please do not intermingle scientific knowledge with the knowledge

of sages.<<

 

I want to say that do not put modern scientific knowledge in the

mouth of our ancient sages. Whatever our ancient sages concluded is

well written in scriptures and followed since then. It is our

heritage. If modern concept were known or explained in scriptures

then VM, or aryabhatt and so on would have clarified it. And there

was no need of modern sages to come out with new scientific

explanation.

 

Now I find no use in exchanging our views so long you have faith on

predictive astrology like religion.

 

Other members may continue to exchange their views but please

maintain healthy atmosphere and keep it within analysis of predictive

astrology ie. (science of astrology).

 

Thanks,

Yours

 

sanat

27-4-08

 

 

PS : I find that some msgs are mixing with the forum of " Hindu

calendar " . I will like to request to members that please avoid

intermixing by stopping multiple posting. Because if the originator

of the thread is not in our forum then how we can interact with him.

I know that Hindu calendar forum is mainly related to correction of

calendar. Hence it would be better to invite the concerning member in

this forum for proper discussion on science of predictive astrology

 

 

 

 

 

, " sureshbalaraman "

<sureshbalaraman wrote:

>

>

> >>Please do not intermingle scientific knowledge with the knowledge

of

> sages.<<

>

> Sanatji,i am not sure who is not getting the picture here?On the one

> hand you are questioning sages like

> Varahamihira,Parashara,Maitreya,Saravali,Bharadwaja etc accountable

to

> scientific enquiry when they are dead and gone or probably re-

incarnated

> as SB,Sanatji or...who ever...to their exemplary classics whic is

viable

> in todays hectic life.These are inter-linked to religion.They form

part

> of the Panchanga.Now if panchanga itself is not science,i better

lock

> myself up,in a lunatic asylum hee hee.

>

> You are constantly bombarding about fake astrologer making use of

> peoples gullibility..that is definitely bad.Better to have Jyotish

> degree in under-graduate studies,Master,Phd..then they are

> certified..and people should approach only certified,licensed

astrologer

> would be the way out !!

>

> There absolutely gems in south india who predict thru

jyotisham.They are

> dedicated lot.

>

> sb

>

>

>

> , " sanat2221 "

> <sanatkumar_jain@> wrote:

> >

> > Resp. SB Ji,

> > Namaskar,

> > Thanks for recharging your active participation,

> > I have selected some points from your msg for offering my

comments.

> > Though actually we have diverted from analyzing the astrology

> > (predictive) to religion. And certainly religion is a matter of

faith

> > hence no question. Astrology (predictive) is only being questioned

> > because you (not you personally but astrologers) claiming it as a

> > science hence only that portion is being examined in the forum.

> >

> > Regarding your comments " my inability to make sanatji

> > understand ,that sanathana dharma teaching were infused with

religious

> > precepts.And by default astrology is religion,a wing of sanathana

> > dharma. " I have already commented earlier and the question is not

> > whether you are able to convince me or not. Question is whether

> > astrology is science or not. You are again and again linking

> > astrology with religion whereas it is not correct because in which

> > religion it was stated that ask astrologer for any prediction so

that

> > he may be religious. I think you are not able to disassociate

> > astrology (predictive) from astronomy. I am not questioning

astronomy

> > which was known as astrology in primitive age.

> >

> > By your comment " By analysing a chart,a astrologer is supposed to

> > help a jivatma,to come closer to god and thereby finally realise

the

> > paramatma.

> > Why not look at astrologers as an active agent,who is actually

> > making a jiva come close to god. " you want to say that astrologer

are

> > actually self-appointed agent of God, who will cheat others in the

> > name of planets and when individual is completely exhausted due to

> > his non-functioning on the advise of astrologers then definitely

he

> > will search some ways and he will go to temple, which is the aim

of

> > the God. At least I am not convinced.

> >

> > At one end you are saying that " Vasishtha kept quiet deliberately

> > since he did not

> > want to interfere in the divine dispensation " and on the other

hand

> > you are pleading astrologer to disclose destiny that too wrongly

that

> > too without any solid principle that too when you know ……………

> >

> > Again your comments is wrong in view of your earlier stand " its

> > obvious ancient bharathians did use nakshatramas,which are light

> > years away. " . I will like to know where it is written that

nakshatras

> > are lightyearss away. Please do not intermingle scientific

knowledge

> > with the knowledge of sages.

> >

> > I have incorporated many points raised by you one after another

> > (refer SOA________ in file section). But you yourself can find

that

> > how badly you have mixed your concept of predictive astrology with

> > religion and using science in support of your stand though it may

be

> > against the concept of sages.

> >

> > But anyway you may continue and members will like to reply, learn

as

> > they please.

> >

> > Waiting for your more observations

> > Thanks

> > Sanat

> > 25-4-08

> >

> >

> >

> > , " sureshbalaraman "

> > sureshbalaraman@ wrote:

> > >

> > > >>. It was on the advice of Vasishtha Muni

> > > that Dasharatha decided to anoint Rama as the Yuvraja the very

next

> > > day, as it was " Tishya " i.e. Pushya nakshata then. From this

> > > anecdote, it is clear that either Vasishtha Muni did not know

as to

> > > what was going to happen to Dasharatha by declaring Bhagwan

Rama as

> > a

> > > crown-prince or Vasishtha kept quiet deliberately since he did

not

> > > want to interfere in the divine dispensation!<<

> > >

> > > From Avtarjis file that you have uploaded sanatji,its obvious

> > ancient

> > > bharathians did use nakshatramas,which are light years away.In

fact

> > Lord

> > > Rama as an avataar showed humanity about righteous living and in

> > > particular eka patni dharma.Becoz guys were being

> > > polygamist.Astronomical position of the sun and moon were used

to

> > > calculate thithis and all of the relevant material for

panchangam

> > aka

> > > almanac.Its cool in retrospective to comment or critique after

the

> > event

> > > is over,but successful people all the time use all the

resources for

> > > success in life.Astrology is one such tool,to be ahead in life

and

> > > clever people take the advice as directional trend or clues what

> > might

> > > happen.Becoz heart of heart everyone know,only god knows it

> > all.That is

> > > the ultimate science of god.

> > >

> > > sb

> > >

> >

>

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>>Thanks for your many msgs but without any concrete discussion on

predictive astrology except religious faith. Hence I am not

commenting on your various msgs regarding colour of mars, affect of

sun, Jainism, shankaracharya etc. except following clarification.<<

 

What is there to predict?You are questioning the authority of sages like

Varahamihira,Parashara,...etc..They gave solutions to people who were

vexed with their situations and who wanted to success and relief.The

laws formulated by them is relevant because,ultimately they make you

yield to gods supremacy and power and there lies the predictions.

 

{{>>Please do not intermingle scientific knowledge with the knowledge

of sages.<<

 

I want to say that do not put modern scientific knowledge in the

mouth of our ancient sages. Whatever our ancient sages concluded is

well written in scriptures and followed since then. It is our

heritage. If modern concept were known or explained in scriptures

then VM, or aryabhatt and so on would have clarified it. And there

was no need of modern sages to come out with new scientific

explanation.

 

Now I find no use in exchanging our views so long you have faith on

predictive astrology like religion.}}

 

Fair enough.Jyotisham is part of my religion,and i will defend it to the

core.Because its my faith.I am not questiong the predicatability of Jain

Tirthankars,who have also written treatises about jyotisham,gola shastra

etc.

 

>>Other members may continue to exchange their views but please

maintain healthy atmosphere and keep it within analysis of predictive

astrology ie. (science of astrology).<<

 

Its been nice to know you Jain.Byeeeeeeee.

 

sb

 

 

 

 

, " sanat2221 "

<sanatkumar_jain wrote:

>

>

> Resp SB,

> Thanks for your many msgs but without any concrete discussion on

> predictive astrology except religious faith. Hence I am not

> commenting on your various msgs regarding colour of mars, affect of

> sun, Jainism, shankaracharya etc. except following clarification.

>

> >>Please do not intermingle scientific knowledge with the knowledge

> of sages.<<

>

> I want to say that do not put modern scientific knowledge in the

> mouth of our ancient sages. Whatever our ancient sages concluded is

> well written in scriptures and followed since then. It is our

> heritage. If modern concept were known or explained in scriptures

> then VM, or aryabhatt and so on would have clarified it. And there

> was no need of modern sages to come out with new scientific

> explanation.

>

> Now I find no use in exchanging our views so long you have faith on

> predictive astrology like religion.

>

> Other members may continue to exchange their views but please

> maintain healthy atmosphere and keep it within analysis of predictive

> astrology ie. (science of astrology).

>

> Thanks,

> Yours

>

> sanat

> 27-4-08

>

>

> PS : I find that some msgs are mixing with the forum of " Hindu

> calendar " . I will like to request to members that please avoid

> intermixing by stopping multiple posting. Because if the originator

> of the thread is not in our forum then how we can interact with him.

> I know that Hindu calendar forum is mainly related to correction of

> calendar. Hence it would be better to invite the concerning member in

> this forum for proper discussion on science of predictive astrology

>

>

>

>

>

> , " sureshbalaraman "

> sureshbalaraman@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > >>Please do not intermingle scientific knowledge with the knowledge

> of

> > sages.<<

> >

> > Sanatji,i am not sure who is not getting the picture here?On the one

> > hand you are questioning sages like

> > Varahamihira,Parashara,Maitreya,Saravali,Bharadwaja etc accountable

> to

> > scientific enquiry when they are dead and gone or probably re-

> incarnated

> > as SB,Sanatji or...who ever...to their exemplary classics whic is

> viable

> > in todays hectic life.These are inter-linked to religion.They form

> part

> > of the Panchanga.Now if panchanga itself is not science,i better

> lock

> > myself up,in a lunatic asylum hee hee.

> >

> > You are constantly bombarding about fake astrologer making use of

> > peoples gullibility..that is definitely bad.Better to have Jyotish

> > degree in under-graduate studies,Master,Phd..then they are

> > certified..and people should approach only certified,licensed

> astrologer

> > would be the way out !!

> >

> > There absolutely gems in south india who predict thru

> jyotisham.They are

> > dedicated lot.

> >

> > sb

> >

> >

> >

> > , " sanat2221 "

> > <sanatkumar_jain@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Resp. SB Ji,

> > > Namaskar,

> > > Thanks for recharging your active participation,

> > > I have selected some points from your msg for offering my

> comments.

> > > Though actually we have diverted from analyzing the astrology

> > > (predictive) to religion. And certainly religion is a matter of

> faith

> > > hence no question. Astrology (predictive) is only being questioned

> > > because you (not you personally but astrologers) claiming it as a

> > > science hence only that portion is being examined in the forum.

> > >

> > > Regarding your comments " my inability to make sanatji

> > > understand ,that sanathana dharma teaching were infused with

> religious

> > > precepts.And by default astrology is religion,a wing of sanathana

> > > dharma. " I have already commented earlier and the question is not

> > > whether you are able to convince me or not. Question is whether

> > > astrology is science or not. You are again and again linking

> > > astrology with religion whereas it is not correct because in which

> > > religion it was stated that ask astrologer for any prediction so

> that

> > > he may be religious. I think you are not able to disassociate

> > > astrology (predictive) from astronomy. I am not questioning

> astronomy

> > > which was known as astrology in primitive age.

> > >

> > > By your comment " By analysing a chart,a astrologer is supposed to

> > > help a jivatma,to come closer to god and thereby finally realise

> the

> > > paramatma.

> > > Why not look at astrologers as an active agent,who is actually

> > > making a jiva come close to god. " you want to say that astrologer

> are

> > > actually self-appointed agent of God, who will cheat others in the

> > > name of planets and when individual is completely exhausted due to

> > > his non-functioning on the advise of astrologers then definitely

> he

> > > will search some ways and he will go to temple, which is the aim

> of

> > > the God. At least I am not convinced.

> > >

> > > At one end you are saying that " Vasishtha kept quiet deliberately

> > > since he did not

> > > want to interfere in the divine dispensation " and on the other

> hand

> > > you are pleading astrologer to disclose destiny that too wrongly

> that

> > > too without any solid principle that too when you know

……………

> > >

> > > Again your comments is wrong in view of your earlier stand " its

> > > obvious ancient bharathians did use nakshatramas,which are light

> > > years away. " . I will like to know where it is written that

> nakshatras

> > > are lightyearss away. Please do not intermingle scientific

> knowledge

> > > with the knowledge of sages.

> > >

> > > I have incorporated many points raised by you one after another

> > > (refer SOA________ in file section). But you yourself can find

> that

> > > how badly you have mixed your concept of predictive astrology with

> > > religion and using science in support of your stand though it may

> be

> > > against the concept of sages.

> > >

> > > But anyway you may continue and members will like to reply, learn

> as

> > > they please.

> > >

> > > Waiting for your more observations

> > > Thanks

> > > Sanat

> > > 25-4-08

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " sureshbalaraman "

> > > sureshbalaraman@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >>. It was on the advice of Vasishtha Muni

> > > > that Dasharatha decided to anoint Rama as the Yuvraja the very

> next

> > > > day, as it was " Tishya " i.e. Pushya nakshata then. From this

> > > > anecdote, it is clear that either Vasishtha Muni did not know

> as to

> > > > what was going to happen to Dasharatha by declaring Bhagwan

> Rama as

> > > a

> > > > crown-prince or Vasishtha kept quiet deliberately since he did

> not

> > > > want to interfere in the divine dispensation!<<

> > > >

> > > > From Avtarjis file that you have uploaded sanatji,its obvious

> > > ancient

> > > > bharathians did use nakshatramas,which are light years away.In

> fact

> > > Lord

> > > > Rama as an avataar showed humanity about righteous living and in

> > > > particular eka patni dharma.Becoz guys were being

> > > > polygamist.Astronomical position of the sun and moon were used

> to

> > > > calculate thithis and all of the relevant material for

> panchangam

> > > aka

> > > > almanac.Its cool in retrospective to comment or critique after

> the

> > > event

> > > > is over,but successful people all the time use all the

> resources for

> > > > success in life.Astrology is one such tool,to be ahead in life

> and

> > > > clever people take the advice as directional trend or clues what

> > > might

> > > > happen.Becoz heart of heart everyone know,only god knows it

> > > all.That is

> > > > the ultimate science of god.

> > > >

> > > > sb

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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