Science of astrology -1

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Res. SB Ji,

I am not able to understand as to where you want to lead the

interaction by meaning of my name or belief in Ved by Jains. It makes

no difference as to whether I believe in Ved or not. Because we are

discussing the science of astrology hence it has nothing to do with

any religious belief. So far your question is concerned I believe Ved

like I believe Jainism or so. But if you are trying to say that if

someone believe in Ved then he must believe astrology. Then I am

sorry to say that you are totally wrong. Because

1 Arya samaj who is actually caring for Ved is totally against the

predictive astrology.

2 Ved has nothing to do with predictive astrology.

3 Vedang ie astrology is a part (out of 6) of Ved, as is being

propagated by astrologers is just a befooling tactics. Astrology as

vedang has nothing to do with prediction and Vedang (astrology) in

vedic era is limited to working out the auspicious time for yagya

etc. There was only one word astrology which has now been bifurcated

like astrology (means prediction) and astronomy.

4 With reference to present terminology, astronomy was vedang (out of

6) and not astrology.

5 Astrologers are borrowing the information of vedang (astronomy)

from NASA (after forgetting the procedure adopted by our sages, which

was primitive and not accurate), and astrology which has nothing to

do with Ved is propagated on the name of our great sages (astronomers

not astrologers).

6 Thus even if you believe in Ved then you must oppose predictive

astrology as a religious matter (I am not diverting towards any

religioun).

 

But scientifically either we may have reasons to verify that planets

affects day-to-day event of every individual which can be decoded

with the help of astrological principles or we may find the basic of

formulation of astrological principles and their scientific viability

with applied forecast. In view of this I can say that I believe in

Ved, as I believe in astronomy (which was the concept of Ved),

whereas you are not believing on Ved because you believe in astrology

(predictive). Hi Hi. Enjoy Enjoy. Don't irritate.

 

In your another msg you have quoted astronomical text of Shatapatha

Brahmana & Aitareya Brahmana, which were written afte Ved. Thus there

concept was in contradiction to Ved due to development of skill

(because we know some thing much better after improving our

knowledge. This process is still going on though under the heading of

science). According to SB Sun is not setting becaue how a god riding

on a chariot of 7 horses may set (die, sleep or so), (because in Ved

it set and rise). Thus it was a development in skill. But translation

is wrong as in that case what 7 horses were doing.

As per AB which indicate further development in knowledge, says (as

per your translation) that " people think the sun is setting, it is

not so; they are mistaken " means in those days our religious concept

or sages (not people, because people were never allowed to read Ved

etc. ) were of the opinion that sun sets, which was contradicted by

the writer of AB and classified concept of earlier sages as wrong.

But this concept was never supported by subsequent sages who

developed the principles of predictive astrology.

The knowledge was further developed by the time of sage parashar who

wrote in Vishnu Puran (2, 8, 41-47) that Sun has to cross all 12

signs (ofcourse due to motion ot sun) in a day and night, hence it

crosses 6 signs in day and 6 signs in night (though it may be wrong

due to present knowledge).

But I want to emphasise that skill was continuously developing. Hence

concept of every sages is right in view of developmental process

(this is the only process which is still being followed). Thus our

sages were not wrong (even their wrong concept), actually we are

wrong who are trying our best to turn the table and reversing the

developmental sequence by any how proving the concept of sages as

right (by wrong translation of slok etc.), perhaps somewhere

religious compulsion may be there. But academically we must be right.

 

 

Thanks

Sanat

 

7-4-2008

 

Re: Science of astrology -1

Posted by: " sureshbalaraman " sureshbalaraman

sureshbalaraman

Sat Apr 5, 2008 7:22 pm (PDT)

 

In astronomical text Shatapatha Brahmana

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shatapatha_Brahmana> , :

 

" The sun is stationed for all time, in the middle of the day. [...] Of

the sun, which is always in one and the same place, there is neither

setting nor rising. " ............