Guest guest Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Respected Bhardwaj Sahib, There is a precise definition available of Ratti and its use in The Encyclopedia of Sikh Lieratute, Guru Shabad Ratnakar Mahan-Kosh by Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha. Page no. 3573: " Rattak : (Raktika - Sanskrit) - LaalDee, ghunghchee, ratti (Arbus Precatorious) sona adee dhatoo atey dawayiyaan dey tolaN layee is nu vaTTey dee thaan tey vartadey hann. " Roughly translated, Rattak (Raktika in Sanskrit) LalDee,ghunghchee and ratti is used in place of measuring weight for weighing gold and medicines etc. Respectfully Yograj Prabhakar , " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj " <nirbhar wrote: > > Dear Friends, > In India normally every person from rural background is familiar with word ratti. It is seed of black and red color. This seed is discussed many times in Lalkitab. > for those who dont know about these seed I am reproducing some facts taken from net > " > Common name: Coral bead vine, Rosary pea • Hindi: & #2352; & #2340; & #2381; & #2340; & #2368; Ratti, & #2327; & #2369; & #2306; & #2330; & #2368; Gunchi • Sanskrit: & #2327; & #2369; & #2306; & #2332; & #2366; Gunjaa • Kannada: & #2327; & #2369; & #2354; & #2327; & #2369; & #2306; & #2332; & #2368; Gulugunji • Bengali: & #2327; & #2369; & #2306; & #2330; Gunch • Gujarati: Ratti & #2352; & #2340; & #2381; & #2340; & #2368; • Tamil: & #2965; & #3009; & #2984; & #3021; & #2980; & #3009; & #2990; & #2979; & #3007; kundu maNi • Marathi: & #2327; & #2369; & #2306; & #2332; Gunja > Botanical name: Abrus precatorius Family: Fabaceae (pea family) > A high-climbing, twining, or trailing woody vine with alternately compound leaves, indigenous to India. Leaves alternate, 5-13 cm long, even-pinnately compound with 5-15 pairs of leaflets, these oval to oblong, to 1.8 cm long, with margins entire. The flowers, shaped like pea flowers, are small, pale, violet to pink and arranged in clusters. Fruit a short, oblong pod, splitting before falling to reveal 3-8 shiny hard seeds, 6-7 mm long, scarlet with black bases. The seeds of abrus precatorius are much valued in native jewelry for their bright coloration. The third of the bean with the hilum (attachment scar) is black, while the rest is bright red, suggesting a ladybug. Jewelry-making with jequirity seeds is dangerous, and there have been cases of death by a finger-prick while boring the seeds for beadwork. The seeds were traditionally used to weigh jewellery in India. The measure ratti & #2352; & #2340; & #2381; & #2340; & #2368; is equal to the weight of one seed. > " > You can visit this link to see the image of ratti & ratti plant. > http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Gunj.html > Regards > Nirmal > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Yograj Jee & Nirmal Jee Ratti ya Rattak jismein mein uljha hua thaa, uski darusti satday ko ludhiana mein bookfair laga hua hai ,wahan jakar maine dour kar lee thee, asal mein mein Rattak aur Ratti alag alag samjhata thaa, jab ki Ratti ko hee RATTAK (sanghya) kaha gaya hai. Ratti jo pehle zamane mein tolney ke kaam aya karti thee, uska niche likha farmula hai (measuring scale ) purane zamane ke anusar.............. 8 KHASKHAS BRABAR hotey hain 1 CHAWAL (8 khaskhas=1 chawal) 8 CHAWAL BRABAR hotey hain 1 RATTI (8 chawal=1 ratti) 8 RATTI BRABAR hotey hain 1 MASHA (8 ratti=1 masha) 12 MASHA BRABAR hotey hain 1 TOLA (12 masha=1 tola 0 yahan par yeh note karein ki 1 tola purane samay mein app. 12 gms ka hua karta thaa. MAHAJAN , " Yograj Prabhakar " <yr_prabhakar wrote: > > Respected Bhardwaj Sahib, > > There is a precise definition available of Ratti and its use in The Encyclopedia of Sikh Lieratute, Guru Shabad Ratnakar Mahan-Kosh by Bhai Kahan Singh Nabha. Page no. 3573: > > " Rattak : (Raktika - Sanskrit) - LaalDee, ghunghchee, ratti (Arbus Precatorious) sona adee dhatoo atey dawayiyaan dey tolaN layee is nu vaTTey dee thaan tey vartadey hann. " > > Roughly translated, Rattak (Raktika in Sanskrit) LalDee,ghunghchee and ratti is used in place of measuring weight for weighing gold and medicines etc. > > > Respectfully > Yograj Prabhakar > > > > , " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj " nirbhar@ wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > In India normally every person from rural background is familiar with word ratti. It is seed of black and red color. This seed is discussed many times in Lalkitab. > > for those who dont know about these seed I am reproducing some facts taken from net > > " > > Common name: Coral bead vine, Rosary pea • Hindi: & #2352; & #2340; & #2381; & #2340; & #2368; Ratti, & #2327; & #2369; & #2306; & #2330; & #2368; Gunchi • Sanskrit: & #2327; & #2369; & #2306; & #2332; & #2366; Gunjaa • Kannada: & #2327; & #2369; & #2354; & #2327; & #2369; & #2306; & #2332; & #2368; Gulugunji • Bengali: & #2327; & #2369; & #2306; & #2330; Gunch • Gujarati: Ratti & #2352; & #2340; & #2381; & #2340; & #2368; • Tamil: & #2965; & #3009; & #2984; & #3021; & #2980; & #3009; & #2990; & #2979; & #3007; kundu maNi • Marathi: & #2327; & #2369; & #2306; & #2332; Gunja > > Botanical name: Abrus precatorius Family: Fabaceae (pea family) > > A high-climbing, twining, or trailing woody vine with alternately compound leaves, indigenous to India. Leaves alternate, 5-13 cm long, even-pinnately compound with 5-15 pairs of leaflets, these oval to oblong, to 1.8 cm long, with margins entire. The flowers, shaped like pea flowers, are small, pale, violet to pink and arranged in clusters. Fruit a short, oblong pod, splitting before falling to reveal 3-8 shiny hard seeds, 6-7 mm long, scarlet with black bases. The seeds of abrus precatorius are much valued in native jewelry for their bright coloration. The third of the bean with the hilum (attachment scar) is black, while the rest is bright red, suggesting a ladybug. Jewelry-making with jequirity seeds is dangerous, and there have been cases of death by a finger-prick while boring the seeds for beadwork. The seeds were traditionally used to weigh jewellery in India. The measure ratti & #2352; & #2340; & #2381; & #2340; & #2368; is equal to the weight of one seed. > > " > > You can visit this link to see the image of ratti & ratti plant. > > http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Gunj.html > > Regards > > Nirmal > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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