A CASE OF MULTIPLE IDENTITIES, SPLIT PERSONALITY AND LIAR

October 26, 2008

Dear Friends,

I am somewhat familiar with Lal Kitab astrology although I in astro students.

An interesting question has come to my mind. Under the influence of which planets or combination does a man say that he is a woman or tries to act like a woman? Another question is that what is the combination that makes a person gay? This is a serious query and any suggestions and hints will be very helpful. I request the seniors to kindly provide this information. I am looking for examples from traditional and lal kitab astrology.

I study all old emails from many Lal Kitab groups and I have found a very interesting email in another group. My suspicion is confirmed now by the email that I am forwarding for your information.

If you read old emails from Lal kitab group run by Mr Punit Panday, you will notice that there was Bhuvan Vasishtha who gradually disappered and then UpdhyayIIT came. Then Priya Bhooshan entered the scene as a woman who was trying to learn Lal Kitab and Mr Upadhyay disappered. Then suddenly within two months she became a big scholar of lal kitab. Then she was thrown out of Lal kitab group. Then this Bhushan Priya opened her own group where she gives upays to people and putting down every one else. Then she admitted that Bhuvan was her cousin brother. Bhuvan has now disapered into the thin air. A nephew came in the form of Varun Trivedi who knows everything about everything in Lal Kitab. She is supported by a dozens of fake ids. Bhushan Priya is also trying to hijack the topics from group into his own. Take the example of discussion on Shani khana

number 6. The discussion has been answered by the fake id of Varun. In Varun's reply, Bhushan Priya has used his own style of margins. He must have become confused. The liars get caught in their own net.

An interesting Email is given as under. It appered in another group called on of which I am a member. I appeal to the moderators to show courage in the name of Lal kitab and help the people understand the crooked people and expose the pervert behaviour of Bhushan Priya. God made him man and he claims that he is a woman. Let the people decide the truth themselves.

Thank you.

Ratan Lal

Exton, Pennsylvania

, "sharma.rohiit" <sharma.rohiit wrote: Mr khurana why r u playing this cheating game? Why r u cheating innocent forum members? In almost every mail you won’t forget to mention yr guru BHOOSHAN PRIYA. Who is this Bhooshan Priya? is he a lady or a man? if he is a man why he is using lady name? Is he suffering from any harmonic disorder or some kind of perversion? Dear group members ! this BHOOSHAN PRIYA is a retd teacher and is a man, he is very fond to use fake mail idS. He is running some groups of lal kitab upayas and discusion. He is working under so many fake idS. He was man in one group for many years. Suddenly he became a woman and even said that as a mother I understand woman’s problems. I chalenge openly him to

prove me wrong. here Under is detail of some of his fake mail id names:- [1] UPADHAYE IITD [2] PT BHUSHAN PRIYA [3] BHUVAN VASHISHTA [4] GIRISH RAHEJA [5] K.P MIGLANI [6] H.S Gill [7] C.P TYAGI [8] VARUN TIVEDI [9] ROOPAK RASTOGI [10]YENGAL DASS [11] DHARAMVIR DHAYIA [12] SHAILSH SINGH Need more? his another Id is our own SATPAL KHURANA !!!!! SATPAL KHURANA IS BHOOSHAN PRIYA. tel us all Why are you making peope fool mr upadhaye? do you think that you will make people ullooo and no one will expose you? I challenge you once more to prove me wrong, give your real identification if you have balls. I have proof of his many more fake ids.I will share with the people very soon his technique is very special. see the mails in his group, he will himself raise a issue by using his one id, then he will answer becoming VARUN TIRVEDI after that C.P TYAGI, HS GILL, GIRISH RAHEJA, K.P MIGLANI and many others will appriciate the answer. they will not forget to write that "OUR GURU JI DID THIS, OUR GURU JI DONE THAT. THIS IS OUR GURU HIS RESEARCH, THIS UPAYA WAS MADE BY OUR GURU JI" (even he use this technique in this series also) This is the relaity of PT. BHOOSHAN PRIYA. Sometime BHOOSAHAN PRIYA himself jump in and give his expert comment to prove himself as super ROOP CHAND JOSHI and his fake idS once again pat his back. He also always mention about his ALIGARH GROUP, there is no such group, from peon to manager he is all in one man.So forum members please be aware of this 12 in 1 cheater who is using his immature logics to impress the innocent people. He want to project himself as a great guru of Laal kitab ever produced, but thru the id of SATPAL KHURANA he also try to prove that Laal kitab was not writen by Shri roop chand joshi ji. He is eating the leftover of pundit roop chand joshi ji but still try to defame him. Reality is that he is a no scholar he is a common thief and a very big copier (nakalchi). he was even did not knew the corrct number of pages in Laal kitab and Mr. Yograj parbhakar ji corrected him. He tell all the upayas from B.D DHANVANTRI book, he recommend many book to the members but never recommend B.D DHANWANTIS book.Are you afraid that your reality will be opened if you will advise DHNVANTIS book? I challenge you again to prove me wrong on these matter. You shamelessly copied all the mantras which I collected with hardwork from my group files and put in your group file section. Here in this group you become SATPAL KHURANA and befoolinmg the innocent members, stop this cheating Pundit Bhooshan Priya, you are a old man you will soon leave this world. what will you tell god about your cheating in the name of Laal kitab? , "khurana_satpal" <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > > Lal Kitab perspective: > > Dear Chakraborty ji, > > Yes it is quite possible that Jupiter could have behaved as a malefic in > any particular birth year in the Varsh Phal chart. > > It is true that a planet, although placed very benefic in a Janma > Kundali,might be placed in a Varsh Phal kundali, such that it behaves as > a malefic. Therefore the sum total of results across years might appear > to be a mixed result. > > As I had said earlier that a planet can act malefic either through > placement or through our own actions. For example a very well placed > Jupiter in the 4th house can act malefic if the native insults or > disrespects his elders, father, gurujan , priest or sadhus etc or if he > gets a Peepal tree cut, or demolishes a temple and so on. > > Sincerely, > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Chakraborty, PL" > <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote: > > > > Dear Khurana-ji, > > > > Will there be cases where Jup is acting in a mixed manner or > > fluctuating manner? > > I am asking this based on a case where Jup is in 4H. > > > > I will avoid giving the full DOB etc for obvious reasons. > > Also, the person is not going to implement any remedies. > > This is only from a learning point. > > _________________ > > The observations are : > > > > Jupiter in 4th house : Benefic indications > > > > [ a ] gets high education : Could study up to B E. > > > > [ b ] has the comfort of the house and vehicle : > > > > Had problem in childhood. Now Stays in Company qtr..oka > > > > Has asome sort of vehicle since he was of 24 yrs. > > > > [ c ] owns cattle [ context villager ] : Not applicable > > > > [ d ] gets a position of authority where he has to take decisions : > Yes > > > > [ e ] gets respect and recognition from the State. : No so far > > > > [ f ] gets wealth from unexpected source : Not so far > > > > [ g ] fortunate for the parents. : Probably not > > > > If the above indications are there it means that the Jupiter is acting > as a > > benefic > > > > > > > > On the contrary > > > > Jupiter 4th house : malefic indications > > > > [ a ] spoils his chances himself : Probably Yes > > > > [ b ] weak eye sight : Average, but now weakening > > > > [ c ] lives like a faqeer [ beggar ] although rich. > > > > High spender .. but appears like poor (dress) > > > > [ d ] danger from the vehicles, or troubles from vehicles > > > > Getting few troubles from his vehicle from time to time > > > > [ e ] less comfort from family [ grahast sukh mein kami] > > > > May be so... do not know. > > > > [ f ] flirt > > > > No, not to my best of knowledge > > > > [ g ] might have broken toys in the house. > > > > Do not know. > > > > [ h ] disease of the lungs > > > > Had problems in early childhood. Now ok > > > > [ i ] unusually large stomach > > > > Yes, out of proportion, since birth. > > > > > > > > The person generally keeps his top torso bare. > > > > > > > > How would you consider the Jup in his case - Malefic / benefic ? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > chakraborty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > khurana_satpal [khurana_satpal@] > > Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:36 PM > > > > Re: How 11th house is benefic > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab Perspective > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > > > As far as the Lal Kitab is concerned I am a beginner yet, > > > > therefore I can not have pretensions of being able to teach > > > > any one. But definitely as and when some topic comes up > > > > in the group I would love to share the Lal Kitab perspective. > > > > > > > > Now coming to your question as to when a planet acts > > > > benefic and when it acts as a malefic. > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab believes that all planets are capable of acting > > > > benefic and malefic. Therefore a Jupiter can be a malefic too > > > > while a Saturn or a Rahu can be a benefic. This will depend > > > > on two things. Firstly the placement in the horoscope > > > > which will take into account its relationships with other > > > > planets. And secondly our own â…•R~acharanâ…•R our own > actions > > > > so much so that we, through our own actions, can turn > > > > even a Jupiter into a malefic. > > > > > > > > Therefore first it is the placement of the planet which is > > > > studied to ascertain whether a planet is benefic or a malefic. > > > > Secondly it is through the indications or what the Lal Kitab > > > > calls nishaniyan the astrologer gets from the native while > > > > telling his woes. > > > > > > > > I am quoting from a series on Jupiter which was carried > > > > out in the group almost a year back > > > > by shri Kulbir Bains and Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji. > > > > > > > > Here is the Jupiter in the 4th house where it is considered > > > > as exalted and still can act malefic under certain circumstances. > > > > > > Jupiter in the 4th house : > > > > > > > > 1. Offers benefic results if house number2,5,9,11,12 do not have > > mercury, venus, rahu or shani in paapi capacity. > > > > > > > > 2. Moon in 1st house and Saturn in 10th house = all types of > > comfort of conveyance is bestowed. > > > > > > > > 3. When male planets are good i.e sun and mars ; the father of > > the native is blessed with judicial or authoritative powers. > > > > > > > > 4. When moon is in house no. 2, Saturn and rahu's general > > nature governs the overall malefic/benefic effects of the native's > > destiny. If their nature is nek, the native will be blessed by > > business and wealth of ancestors, enjoys good reputation in society > > and also holds some important government post. But in such a > > scenario the health of the native is not good and he has to > > generally spend about one-fourth of his income on maintaining good > > health. Royal disposition blessed with wealth, servants, royal > > symbols, decorated continuously. > > > > > > > > 5. House no 10 empty, Jupiter in 4th is dormant, such a native > > should never let anybody see his naked body to attain good effects > > of Jupiter 4. > > > > > > > > 6. With the exception of moon in 2nd house, moon in each house > > is best and native doesn't has to spend a large amount on his health. > > > > > > > > 7. When moon is qayam and the native maintains it so. If mother > > is alive, the education is completed despite hurdles. But if the > > mother leaves the native early, the education is completed from > > start to finish without any difficulty. > > > > > > > > 8. When ketu is good in the horoscope, money spend on the > > education of the native or spend by him on education of others > > returns with interest. If maintains good character, blessed with a > > long life. > > > > > > > > 9. Mercury benefic or sun in house 10, well qualified, > > skilled, learned but condition of fortune is not there. Well > > renowned in family and government. > > > > > > > > 10. Saturn in house no 2,9,10 good natured, famed, helpful and > > charitable, royal residence and all sorts of comforts. > > > > > > > > 11. When rahu is benefic, items of moon i.e. mother, horses, etc > > have benefic results. > > > > > > > > 12. When mercury is in house no and arrives in varshphal in 4th > > house it will give disastrous results. If indulges in illicit > > relations after the age of 34, he will destroy whole of his family. > > It is good for the native that he remains a servant and not an order > > give, decision maker or a master. He will be betrayed by his > > judgments; decisions and his actions destroy him. Forewarning for > > years 11-23, 34, 38, 55, 71, 85, 97, 119. > > > > > > > > 13. Saturn is malefic or the native converts a benefic Saturn > > into malefic by his actions such as killing of snakes, falling > > buildings or drinking etc. the native attains pleasure from immoral > > activities, has excellent knowledge about wining and dining (non- > > veg). loves nefarious reputation. His eyesight is in danger and ketu > > also doesn't give benefic results. > > > > > > > > 14. enemy planets venus, mercury, rahu or Saturn in house no.10 > > if rahu is malefic - wealth is in danger. Items of moon give worse > > results. > > if ketu is malefic - appears like an ordinary /below average income > > person even if he might be a king. Might have to leave his house to > > take shelter in the woods to save him from calamity. > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > Added by Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji > > > > > > > > Jupiter in 4th house : Benefic indications > > > > > > > > [ a ] gets high education > > > > [ b ] has the comfort of the house and vehicle > > > > [ c ] owns cattle [ context villager ] > > > > [ d ] gets a position of authority where he has to take decisions > > > > [ e ] gets respect and recognition from the State. > > > > [ f ] gets wealth from unexpected source > > > > [ g ] fortunate for the parents. > > > > > > > > If the above indications are there it means that the Jupiter is acting > as a > > benefic > > > > > > > > On the contrary > > > > > > > > Jupiter 4th house : malefic indications > > > > > > > > [ a ] spoils his chances himself [ apani naav khud dubaave ] > > > > [ b ] weak eye sight > > > > [ c ] lives like a faqeer [ beggar ] although rich. > > > > [ d ] danger from the vehicles, or troubles from vehicles > > > > [ e ] less comfort from family [ grahast sukh mein kami] > > > > [ f ] flirt > > > > [ g ] might have broken toys in the house. > > > > [ h ] disease of the lungs > > > > [ i ] unusually large stomach > > > > > > > > if there are any of the above indications then it means that the > jupiter has > > been turned into a malefic and upaya is needed. > > > > > > > > Bhooshan Priya > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sunil nair" > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear SP khurana ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the efforts and time and incilnation of u for teaching > and > > > giving us ideas abt Lal kitab .esp a book shrouded with lot of > mystery . > > > > > > > > > > > > i hav one request to u - can u tell us ,what r the conditions which > can > > > make a planet malefic or benefic for one purticular chart .Even i > > > request u to giv us tips on various aspects of lal kitab for novices > > > like us .Also i hope other memebrs wont hav any objuctions as we r > here > > > for seeing truth and wisdom . > > > > > > > > > > > > pls take ur time but giv us exhustiv answers but only when u r free > to > > > do it . > > > > > > > > > > > > thanking u in advance > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > , "khurana_satpal" > > > khurana_satpal@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab perspective > > > > > > > > Dear Bohra ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > House # 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ghar 11 mein grah jo aave, taseer shani vah hota hai > > > > > > > > Ghar 3 khali 11 sove , kismet shani par hoti hai > > > > > > > > Shani guru us teve mein jaise, kahin bhi uske baithe hon > > > > > > > > Phal vaise hi ghar 11 ke, us teve mein hote hon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets placed in the 11th house will behave according > > > > > > > > to the nature of Saturn. If the 3rd house is unoccupied the > > > > > > > > planets placed in the 11th will be considered as dormant. > > > > > > > > If that is so, then the remedies will have to be done to > > > > > > > > awaken them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The effects of the planets of the 11th house will depend on > > > > > > > > how the Jupiter and the Saturn are placed in that horoscope. > > > > > > > > If there is either Venus or ketu in the 3rd, or if there is any > > > > > > > > friend of Jupiter in the 3rd then the planet/s placed in the > > > > > > > > 11th house will give good results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is Ketu in the 11th it will destroy the moon and > > > > > > > > vice versa. If there is Jupiter in the 11th then it will destroy > > > > > > > > rahu and vice versa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Faqeer ki jholi ki kismet ginte : The planets placed in the > > > > > > > > 11th are like the jholi of the faqeer. You never know what > > > > > > > > is in store for you in that jholi. There could be some thing > > > > > > > > benefic or even malefic for you in that faqeer ki jholi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Except for Saturn, rahu and Ketu all the planets placed in > > > > > > > > the 11th are be-aitbaar [ unreliable ]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets placed in the 11th house will give their benefic > > > > > > > > results in the 11,23,36,48,57,72,84,94 years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab then goes on to give detailed results of each > > > > > > > > planet in the 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just an example : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter benefic : so long as the native stays with his family > > > > > > > > and so long as the father is alive, even a snake would bow > > > > > > > > down before him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter malefic : separate from the father either due to death > > > > > > > > or otherwise; of loose character; doing business of a malefic > > > > > > > > planet; or associated with a relative representing a malefic > > > > > > > > planet in the kundali, then he can not even stand before a > > > > > > > > mosquito, he will lead such a miserable life that he may > > > > > > > > even be deprived of a shroud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "msbohra62" > > > > msbohra62@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Every astrological text book says 11th house is > benefic(Labh),how > > > you > > > > > can describe it where :- > > > > > 1.11th house is 3rd from 9th house(bhagyesh,dharmesh,house of > > > father) > > > > > 2.11th house is 8th from 4th house(Shukh,Mother,Fame,land) > > > > > 3.11th house is 6th from 6th house,as per Bhawatm-Bhawam become > > > > > negative and represent for debt,enemy,ill-health. > > > > > 4.11th house is 7th from 5th house,Marka for > > > > > children,education,wisdom,Purva Janam Karma. > > > > > > > > > > What are the astrological reason to say 11th house is benefic > house > > > > > and every planet become benefic in this house?I would like to > know > > > by > > > > > all of you learned astrologer to describe it. > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi , > India . 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October 27, 2008

Dear Ratan,A recent case of an IG police who changed his dressups to woman also to be reffered.I read in one lalkitab that If mercury in 8th become powerful and on the other hand jupiter is in his houses but with rahu or shukkar in a natal chart. Then the native will have the tendencies of doing such types of tantrums. He wants that other should apreciate him for his work but simultaneosly also wants that other should not know his incapabilities.

I think Upadhyaye alias Bhooshan Priya ji, must come forward and make his position clear. I have seen few members give there cell no/ tel:no under each and every post. This is a good habit and put end to these controversies. Let these aliases should open there telephone numbers to members and end these controversies

Gayish/ lesbian habits come with powerful and bad ketu conjoined with Saturn and venus. Bad planet in 8th will increase such habits.Dr. VinayOn Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:05 AM, Ratan Bidesia <ratanbidesia wrote:

Dear Friends,

I am somewhat familiar with Lal Kitab astrology although I in astro students.

An interesting question has come to my mind. Under the influence of which planets or combination does a man say that he is a woman or tries to act like a woman? Another question is that what is the combination that makes a person gay? This is a serious query and any suggestions and hints will be very helpful. I request the seniors to kindly provide this information. I am looking for examples from traditional and lal kitab astrology.

I study all old emails from many Lal Kitab groups and I have found a very interesting email in another group. My suspicion is confirmed now by the email that I am forwarding for your information.

If you read old emails from Lal kitab group run by Mr Punit Panday, you will notice that there was Bhuvan Vasishtha who gradually disappered and then UpdhyayIIT came. Then Priya Bhooshan entered the scene as a woman who was trying to learn Lal Kitab and Mr Upadhyay disappered. Then suddenly within two months she became a big scholar of lal kitab. Then she was thrown out of Lal kitab group. Then this Bhushan Priya opened her own group where she gives upays to people and putting down every one else. Then she admitted that Bhuvan was her cousin brother. Bhuvan has now disapered into the thin air. A nephew came in the form of Varun Trivedi who knows everything about everything in Lal Kitab. She is supported by a dozens of fake ids. Bhushan Priya is also trying to hijack the topics from group into his own. Take the example of discussion on Shani khana

number 6. The discussion has been answered by the fake id of Varun. In Varun's reply, Bhushan Priya has used his own style of margins. He must have become confused. The liars get caught in their own net.

An interesting Email is given as under. It appered in another group called on of which I am a member. I appeal to the moderators to show courage in the name of Lal kitab and help the people understand the crooked people and expose the pervert behaviour of Bhushan Priya. God made him man and he claims that he is a woman. Let the people decide the truth themselves.

Thank you.

Ratan Lal

Exton, Pennsylvania

, " sharma.rohiit " <sharma.rohiit wrote: Mr khurana why r u playing this cheating game? Why r u cheating innocent forum members? In almost every mail you won't forget to mention yr guru BHOOSHAN PRIYA. Who is this Bhooshan Priya? is he a lady or a man? if he is a man why he is using lady name? Is he suffering from any harmonic disorder or some kind of perversion? Dear group members ! this BHOOSHAN PRIYA is a retd teacher and is a man, he is very fond to use fake mail idS. He is running some groups of lal kitab upayas and discusion. He is working under so many fake idS. He was man in one group for many years. Suddenly he became a woman and even said that as a mother I understand woman's problems. I chalenge openly him to

prove me wrong. here Under is detail of some of his fake mail id names:- [1] UPADHAYE IITD [2] PT BHUSHAN PRIYA [3] BHUVAN VASHISHTA [4] GIRISH RAHEJA [5] K.P MIGLANI [6] H.S Gill [7] C.P TYAGI [8] VARUN TIVEDI [9] ROOPAK RASTOGI [10]YENGAL DASS [11] DHARAMVIR DHAYIA [12] SHAILSH SINGH Need more? his another Id is our own SATPAL KHURANA !!!!! SATPAL KHURANA IS BHOOSHAN PRIYA. tel us all Why are you making peope fool mr upadhaye? do you think that you will make people ullooo and no one will expose you? I challenge you once more to prove me wrong, give your real identification if you have balls. I have proof of his many more fake ids.I will share with the people very soon his technique is very special. see the mails in his group, he will himself raise a issue by using his one id, then he will answer becoming VARUN TIRVEDI after that C.P TYAGI, HS GILL, GIRISH RAHEJA, K.P MIGLANI and many others will appriciate the answer. they will not forget to write that " OUR GURU JI DID THIS, OUR GURU JI DONE THAT. THIS IS OUR GURU HIS RESEARCH, THIS UPAYA WAS MADE BY OUR GURU JI " (even he use this technique in this series also) This is the relaity of PT. BHOOSHAN PRIYA. Sometime BHOOSAHAN PRIYA himself jump in and give his expert comment to prove himself as super ROOP CHAND JOSHI and his fake idS once again pat his back. He also always mention about his ALIGARH GROUP, there is no such group, from peon to manager he is all in one man.So forum members please be aware of this 12 in 1 cheater who is using his immature logics to impress the innocent people. He want to project himself as a great guru of Laal kitab ever produced, but thru the id of SATPAL KHURANA he also try to prove that Laal kitab was not writen by Shri roop chand joshi ji. He is eating the leftover of pundit roop chand joshi ji but still try to defame him. Reality is that he is a no scholar he is a common thief and a very big copier (nakalchi). he was even did not knew the corrct number of pages in Laal kitab and Mr. Yograj parbhakar ji corrected him. He tell all the upayas from B.D DHANVANTRI book, he recommend many book to the members but never recommend B.D DHANWANTIS book.Are you afraid that your reality will be opened if you will advise DHNVANTIS book? I challenge you again to prove me wrong on these matter. You shamelessly copied all the mantras which I collected with hardwork from my group files and put in your group file section. Here in this group you become SATPAL KHURANA and befoolinmg the innocent members, stop this cheating Pundit Bhooshan Priya, you are a old man you will soon leave this world. what will you tell god about your cheating in the name of Laal kitab? , " khurana_satpal " <khurana_satpal@> wrote: > > > Lal Kitab perspective: > > Dear Chakraborty ji, > > Yes it is quite possible that Jupiter could have behaved as a malefic in > any particular birth year in the Varsh Phal chart. > > It is true that a planet, although placed very benefic in a Janma > Kundali,might be placed in a Varsh Phal kundali, such that it behaves as > a malefic. Therefore the sum total of results across years might appear > to be a mixed result. > > As I had said earlier that a planet can act malefic either through > placement or through our own actions. For example a very well placed > Jupiter in the 4th house can act malefic if the native insults or > disrespects his elders, father, gurujan , priest or sadhus etc or if he > gets a Peepal tree cut, or demolishes a temple and so on. > > Sincerely, > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Chakraborty, PL " > <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote: > > > > Dear Khurana-ji, > > > > Will there be cases where Jup is acting in a mixed manner or > > fluctuating manner? > > I am asking this based on a case where Jup is in 4H. > > > > I will avoid giving the full DOB etc for obvious reasons. > > Also, the person is not going to implement any remedies. > > This is only from a learning point. > > _________________ > > The observations are : > > > > Jupiter in 4th house : Benefic indications > > > > [ a ] gets high education : Could study up to B E. > > > > [ b ] has the comfort of the house and vehicle : > > > > Had problem in childhood. Now Stays in Company qtr..oka > > > > Has asome sort of vehicle since he was of 24 yrs. > > > > [ c ] owns cattle [ context villager ] : Not applicable > > > > [ d ] gets a position of authority where he has to take decisions : > Yes > > > > [ e ] gets respect and recognition from the State. : No so far > > > > [ f ] gets wealth from unexpected source : Not so far > > > > [ g ] fortunate for the parents. : Probably not > > > > If the above indications are there it means that the Jupiter is acting > as a > > benefic > > > > > > > > On the contrary > > > > Jupiter 4th house : malefic indications > > > > [ a ] spoils his chances himself : Probably Yes > > > > [ b ] weak eye sight : Average, but now weakening > > > > [ c ] lives like a faqeer [ beggar ] although rich. > > > > High spender .. but appears like poor (dress) > > > > [ d ] danger from the vehicles, or troubles from vehicles > > > > Getting few troubles from his vehicle from time to time > > > > [ e ] less comfort from family [ grahast sukh mein kami] > > > > May be so... do not know. > > > > [ f ] flirt > > > > No, not to my best of knowledge > > > > [ g ] might have broken toys in the house. > > > > Do not know. > > > > [ h ] disease of the lungs > > > > Had problems in early childhood. Now ok > > > > [ i ] unusually large stomach > > > > Yes, out of proportion, since birth. > > > > > > > > The person generally keeps his top torso bare. > > > > > > > > How would you consider the Jup in his case - Malefic / benefic ? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > chakraborty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > khurana_satpal [khurana_satpal@] > > Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:36 PM > > > > Re: How 11th house is benefic > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab Perspective > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > > > As far as the Lal Kitab is concerned I am a beginner yet, > > > > therefore I can not have pretensions of being able to teach > > > > any one. But definitely as and when some topic comes up > > > > in the group I would love to share the Lal Kitab perspective. > > > > > > > > Now coming to your question as to when a planet acts > > > > benefic and when it acts as a malefic. > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab believes that all planets are capable of acting > > > > benefic and malefic. Therefore a Jupiter can be a malefic too > > > > while a Saturn or a Rahu can be a benefic. This will depend > > > > on two things. Firstly the placement in the horoscope > > > > which will take into account its relationships with other > > > > planets. And secondly our own â…•R~acharanâ…•R our own > actions > > > > so much so that we, through our own actions, can turn > > > > even a Jupiter into a malefic. > > > > > > > > Therefore first it is the placement of the planet which is > > > > studied to ascertain whether a planet is benefic or a malefic. > > > > Secondly it is through the indications or what the Lal Kitab > > > > calls nishaniyan the astrologer gets from the native while > > > > telling his woes. > > > > > > > > I am quoting from a series on Jupiter which was carried > > > > out in the group almost a year back > > > > by shri Kulbir Bains and Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji. > > > > > > > > Here is the Jupiter in the 4th house where it is considered > > > > as exalted and still can act malefic under certain circumstances. > > > > > > Jupiter in the 4th house : > > > > > > > > 1. Offers benefic results if house number2,5,9,11,12 do not have > > mercury, venus, rahu or shani in paapi capacity. > > > > > > > > 2. Moon in 1st house and Saturn in 10th house = all types of > > comfort of conveyance is bestowed. > > > > > > > > 3. When male planets are good i.e sun and mars ; the father of > > the native is blessed with judicial or authoritative powers. > > > > > > > > 4. When moon is in house no. 2, Saturn and rahu's general > > nature governs the overall malefic/benefic effects of the native's > > destiny. If their nature is nek, the native will be blessed by > > business and wealth of ancestors, enjoys good reputation in society > > and also holds some important government post. But in such a > > scenario the health of the native is not good and he has to > > generally spend about one-fourth of his income on maintaining good > > health. Royal disposition blessed with wealth, servants, royal > > symbols, decorated continuously. > > > > > > > > 5. House no 10 empty, Jupiter in 4th is dormant, such a native > > should never let anybody see his naked body to attain good effects > > of Jupiter 4. > > > > > > > > 6. With the exception of moon in 2nd house, moon in each house > > is best and native doesn't has to spend a large amount on his health. > > > > > > > > 7. When moon is qayam and the native maintains it so. If mother > > is alive, the education is completed despite hurdles. But if the > > mother leaves the native early, the education is completed from > > start to finish without any difficulty. > > > > > > > > 8. When ketu is good in the horoscope, money spend on the > > education of the native or spend by him on education of others > > returns with interest. If maintains good character, blessed with a > > long life. > > > > > > > > 9. Mercury benefic or sun in house 10, well qualified, > > skilled, learned but condition of fortune is not there. Well > > renowned in family and government. > > > > > > > > 10. Saturn in house no 2,9,10 good natured, famed, helpful and > > charitable, royal residence and all sorts of comforts. > > > > > > > > 11. When rahu is benefic, items of moon i.e. mother, horses, etc > > have benefic results. > > > > > > > > 12. When mercury is in house no and arrives in varshphal in 4th > > house it will give disastrous results. If indulges in illicit > > relations after the age of 34, he will destroy whole of his family. > > It is good for the native that he remains a servant and not an order > > give, decision maker or a master. He will be betrayed by his > > judgments; decisions and his actions destroy him. Forewarning for > > years 11-23, 34, 38, 55, 71, 85, 97, 119. > > > > > > > > 13. Saturn is malefic or the native converts a benefic Saturn > > into malefic by his actions such as killing of snakes, falling > > buildings or drinking etc. the native attains pleasure from immoral > > activities, has excellent knowledge about wining and dining (non- > > veg). loves nefarious reputation. His eyesight is in danger and ketu > > also doesn't give benefic results. > > > > > > > > 14. enemy planets venus, mercury, rahu or Saturn in house no.10 > > if rahu is malefic - wealth is in danger. Items of moon give worse > > results. > > if ketu is malefic - appears like an ordinary /below average income > > person even if he might be a king. Might have to leave his house to > > take shelter in the woods to save him from calamity. > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > Added by Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji > > > > > > > > Jupiter in 4th house : Benefic indications > > > > > > > > [ a ] gets high education > > > > [ b ] has the comfort of the house and vehicle > > > > [ c ] owns cattle [ context villager ] > > > > [ d ] gets a position of authority where he has to take decisions > > > > [ e ] gets respect and recognition from the State. > > > > [ f ] gets wealth from unexpected source > > > > [ g ] fortunate for the parents. > > > > > > > > If the above indications are there it means that the Jupiter is acting > as a > > benefic > > > > > > > > On the contrary > > > > > > > > Jupiter 4th house : malefic indications > > > > > > > > [ a ] spoils his chances himself [ apani naav khud dubaave ] > > > > [ b ] weak eye sight > > > > [ c ] lives like a faqeer [ beggar ] although rich. > > > > [ d ] danger from the vehicles, or troubles from vehicles > > > > [ e ] less comfort from family [ grahast sukh mein kami] > > > > [ f ] flirt > > > > [ g ] might have broken toys in the house. > > > > [ h ] disease of the lungs > > > > [ i ] unusually large stomach > > > > > > > > if there are any of the above indications then it means that the > jupiter has > > been turned into a malefic and upaya is needed. > > > > > > > > Bhooshan Priya > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear SP khurana ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the efforts and time and incilnation of u for teaching > and > > > giving us ideas abt Lal kitab .esp a book shrouded with lot of > mystery . > > > > > > > > > > > > i hav one request to u - can u tell us ,what r the conditions which > can > > > make a planet malefic or benefic for one purticular chart .Even i > > > request u to giv us tips on various aspects of lal kitab for novices > > > like us .Also i hope other memebrs wont hav any objuctions as we r > here > > > for seeing truth and wisdom . > > > > > > > > > > > > pls take ur time but giv us exhustiv answers but only when u r free > to > > > do it . > > > > > > > > > > > > thanking u in advance > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > , " khurana_satpal " > > > khurana_satpal@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab perspective > > > > > > > > Dear Bohra ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > House # 11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ghar 11 mein grah jo aave, taseer shani vah hota hai > > > > > > > > Ghar 3 khali 11 sove , kismet shani par hoti hai > > > > > > > > Shani guru us teve mein jaise, kahin bhi uske baithe hon > > > > > > > > Phal vaise hi ghar 11 ke, us teve mein hote hon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets placed in the 11th house will behave according > > > > > > > > to the nature of Saturn. If the 3rd house is unoccupied the > > > > > > > > planets placed in the 11th will be considered as dormant. > > > > > > > > If that is so, then the remedies will have to be done to > > > > > > > > awaken them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The effects of the planets of the 11th house will depend on > > > > > > > > how the Jupiter and the Saturn are placed in that horoscope. > > > > > > > > If there is either Venus or ketu in the 3rd, or if there is any > > > > > > > > friend of Jupiter in the 3rd then the planet/s placed in the > > > > > > > > 11th house will give good results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is Ketu in the 11th it will destroy the moon and > > > > > > > > vice versa. If there is Jupiter in the 11th then it will destroy > > > > > > > > rahu and vice versa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Faqeer ki jholi ki kismet ginte : The planets placed in the > > > > > > > > 11th are like the jholi of the faqeer. You never know what > > > > > > > > is in store for you in that jholi. There could be some thing > > > > > > > > benefic or even malefic for you in that faqeer ki jholi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Except for Saturn, rahu and Ketu all the planets placed in > > > > > > > > the 11th are be-aitbaar [ unreliable ]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The planets placed in the 11th house will give their benefic > > > > > > > > results in the 11,23,36,48,57,72,84,94 years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab then goes on to give detailed results of each > > > > > > > > planet in the 11th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just an example : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter benefic : so long as the native stays with his family > > > > > > > > and so long as the father is alive, even a snake would bow > > > > > > > > down before him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter malefic : separate from the father either due to death > > > > > > > > or otherwise; of loose character; doing business of a malefic > > > > > > > > planet; or associated with a relative representing a malefic > > > > > > > > planet in the kundali, then he can not even stand before a > > > > > > > > mosquito, he will lead such a miserable life that he may > > > > > > > > even be deprived of a shroud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > S P Khurana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " msbohra62 " > > > > msbohra62@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Every astrological text book says 11th house is > benefic(Labh),how > > > you > > > > > can describe it where :- > > > > > 1.11th house is 3rd from 9th house(bhagyesh,dharmesh,house of > > > father) > > > > > 2.11th house is 8th from 4th house(Shukh,Mother,Fame,land) > > > > > 3.11th house is 6th from 6th house,as per Bhawatm-Bhawam become > > > > > negative and represent for debt,enemy,ill-health. > > > > > 4.11th house is 7th from 5th house,Marka for > > > > > children,education,wisdom,Purva Janam Karma. > > > > > > > > > > What are the astrological reason to say 11th house is benefic > house > > > > > and every planet become benefic in this house?I would like to > know > > > by > > > > > all of you learned astrologer to describe it. > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi , > India . 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January 6, 2009

Dear Vinay ji and Ratan ji;

The anwer to the qusetion about homosexuality is with Mr. M.S. Kondal and Shri Yograj prabhakar; they gave me certain combinations and placement of some planets in some specific houses that show this tendency. On my part i can say that i have checked this in at least 20 horoscopes and people have admitted that they did indulge in such activities may be even for a very short duration.

I don't know how Shri Kondal derived this conclusions because he is a past master in both vedic and lalkitab.

another interesting thing i would like to share here is that while analysing a horoscope prabhakarji had some apprehensions about such tendencies about the lady in question. He cross checked it with Dr. Amarjit Aggarwal

and it was amazing to see that Dr. sahib came out ith a yog in navansh given in a traditional asrology treatise. and when asked the lady replied in affirmative.

as these findings have neen deduced by these gentleman with putting in their years of study,it would not be appropriate for me to give the answers as i was told about them by shri kondal and prabhakarji in confidence. so it would be better for you to approach them. i am giving you the link or hint that u requested for.

another reason for keeping these combinations a secret is that homosexuaity is a taboo and people associated with it often are ostracised or shunned upon,although we have no right to do so because it is NATURE that made them so, but you can imagine that if these combinations are put on a public forum. many people will suffer unduly because amatures and some lazy ones will jump to conclusions without going in for a darusti.

and if someone suffers so then the karmic circle wil also effect the propounders also.

So the answer to your querry that are there some specific combinations is yes, but to get it you wil have to request the persons mentioned above.

regars

kubir

January 6, 2009

Respected Kulbir Paji,Happy 2009!I would like to add that yes, certain combinations of planets reveal not only homosexual activities, but can also reveal the nature of sexual relations, pursuits and interests by a person. Whether a person is passive or aggressive can also be seen from planetary combinations.There are great sources for this insight which compliment the studies of Lal Kitab. One source I have personally found very rewarding and insightful is Tantric Samrat LR Chawdhri"s exhaustive "Women and Astrology." Though focused on females, it is a true glimpse into how a women's horoscope and phrenology can provide vivid glimpses into her sexuality. This is a must-read for anyone serious about learning more about this topic.In seeing many horoscopes I have noticed that the following interplays of planets in specific houses have potential implications around aggresive or non-conformist sexuality (not just homosexuality):* Mars/Saturn* Ketu/Venus* Mercury/Venus* Mercury/Rahu* Rahu/Venus* Rahu/Mars* Saturn/Venus* Saturn/KetuOften, the 1st, 6th, 7th 10th, 11th and 12th houses provide some insight around a person's physical interests.These have been my own observations and this list is by no means exhaustive. I also agree with Kondal Sahib and Shri Aggarwal that in the Navamsha there are further opportunities to see other impacts.Outside of Lal Kitab, reading about the behaviour of Venus in different nakhshatras is also a telling source.It would be rewarding to see other learned members own observations and patterns of planet interplays around this topic.Perhaps you could share your list with us Kulbir Ji?Best Regards,IqbalUSASent via Blackberry "kulbir bance" Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:05:01 -0800Re: A CASE OF MULTIPLE IDENTITIES, SPLIT PERSONALITY AND LIAR Dear Vinay ji and Ratan ji; The anwer to the qusetion about homosexuality is with Mr. M.S. Kondal and Shri Yograj prabhakar; they gave me certain combinations and placement of some planets in some specific houses that show this tendency. On my part i can say that i have checked this in at least 20 horoscopes and people have admitted that they did indulge in such activities may be even for a very short duration. I don't know how Shri Kondal derived this conclusions because he is a past master in both vedic and lalkitab.another interesting thing i would like to share here is that while analysing a horoscope prabhakarji had some apprehensions about such tendencies about the lady in question. He cross checked it with Dr. Amarjit Aggarwal and it was amazing to see that Dr. sahib came out ith a yog in navansh given in a traditional asrology treatise. and when asked the lady replied in affirmative.as these findings have neen deduced by these gentleman with putting in their years of study,it would not be appropriate for me to give the answers as i was told about them by shri kondal and prabhakarji in confidence. so it would be better for you to approach them. i am giving you the link or hint that u requested for. another reason for keeping these combinations a secret is that homosexuaity is a taboo and people associated with it often are ostracised or shunned upon,although we have no right to do so because it is NATURE that made them so, but you can imagine that if these combinations are put on a public forum. many people will suffer unduly because amatures and some lazy ones will jump to conclusions without going in for a darusti. and if someone suffers so then the karmic circle wil also effect the propounders also.So the answer to your querry that are there some specific combinations is yes, but to get it you wil have to request the persons mentioned above.regarskubir

January 8, 2009

Dear Kulbir Ji,

First of all I wish you and astrostudentgroup

" A Very Happy and Prosperous New Year 2009 "

Though it is late but O was not keeping good health hence I hope every body will overlook the delay.

dear Kulbir ji just try to see the results of Jupiter in sign Cancer beyond 16deeg.40mnts. in regard of subject matter (Planets and the sexual behavior). Though people will appreciate this Jupiter due bieng in its exaltation sign but it gives horrible results.

Regards,

Dr.Aggarwal

On 1/6/09, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: