effects of sixth house saturn

October 20, 2008

Hi friends,Its been long when anyone of us has put up any topic to discuss.So,just to break the monotony let me put up something.Well, i want to know or even discuss the effects of saturn in sixth house,which is indeed considered malefic.Moreover person with saturn in sixth is asked to buy second hand things related to saturn,which actually is not possible every time as footwear is also related to saturn and one can't go for second hand footwear.So, i want all my fellow friends to put some light on this topic.

Regards,Livia

October 22, 2008

Livia ji,

Namaskar

aapko shayad yeh jankar hairani hogi ki yeh group soya hua hai. yeh

group neend se kab jagega koi nahi janta.

Shani khana no 6 mein ho to second hand item hee leni chahiye ,

nayee item wafa nahi karegi aisa mera vichar hai. kai baar to yeh

dekhne mein aya hai ki aise jatak shadi bhee uss ladki se hogi jiska

pehle rishta toot chuka ho ya shadi ho chuki ho (wife bhee second

hand milegi)khaskar ke aise jatak ki behan (budh) ki shadi bhee uss

ladke se hoti hai jo pehle se hee shadi shuda hoga

(divorcee/widower). nayee juti(chamra/leather yeh belt ya purse bhee

ho sakta hai ) lene se usko jutiyan padne ka darr hai matlab ki kaam

thap, police ka jhagra.AISA JATAK AGAR KABARI KA KAAM KARE TO

KAMYAB HO SAKTA HAI. upay:-chamra daan kare , sarson oil ko chhapar

mein dabana detail mein shani khan no 6 ke upay dekhe.

Mahajan

DIWALI KI SABKO MUBARIK HO

MAHAJAN

, " livia tandon "

<liviatandon wrote:

>

> Hi friends,

> Its been long when anyone of us has put up any topic to

discuss.So,just to

> break the monotony let me put up something.Well, i want to know or

even

> discuss the effects of saturn in sixth house,which is indeed

considered

> malefic.Moreover person with saturn in sixth is asked to buy

second hand

> things related to saturn,which actually is not possible every time

as

> footwear is also related to saturn and one can't go for second hand

> footwear.So, i want all my fellow friends to put some light on

this topic.

> Regards,

> Livia

>

October 23, 2008

Respected Mahajan SahibI have never came across such notion of purchasing Second Hand materials for Shani khana number 6, neither I found it anywhere mentioned in the Lal Kitab. I am not questioning your knowledge because purchasing an article of Ketu (Toys etc) while purchasing material of Saturn is also normally prescribe by the LK astrologers, so I believe that there may be some strong rationale behind this "Second Hand item" theory, since you are a seasoned Lal Kitabist having good amount of practical experience, you can explain it better.Here is my two cents in this ongoing discussion:(1). Saturn in 6th has a reverse drishti on 2nd house.(2). Saturn in this house depends upon the plcement/nature of Ketu in the horoscope.(3). Saturns gives bad effects in this house only during the day.(4). If a native marries before the age

of 28. it may affect Moon, ketu and Venus badly.(5). The native will never be childless normally. (6). Normaly Ketu and Mercury will not be in Mandi Haalat(7). After the age of 42 shani will be very bnefic for the native.(8). Native should not purchase new leather shoes, machinery or construct house when Saturn of khana number 6 come to khana no. 6 during the varshphal, otherwise, the native may face problem from government/employer/court/police etc. (9). Similarly, while Saturn or khana number 6 came to khana no. 6 during the varshphal the native may lost his shoes (particularly in a Dharam Sthan). (10). Feeding the snakes and immersing Nariyal & Badam in running water are also recommended remedies mentioned in the Lal kitab.Regarding the remedy of burying sarson oil in a chhapar mentioned by you, I am reproducing the exact text from LK-1952 page no. 616:"Saneechar number 6 ki aam mandee haalat se bachney

ya zehreeley asar ko rokney ke liye sarson ke tel se bahara huya bartan (mitti ka) kisi talaab ya dariya ke paani ke andar zameen ki taiy mein dabayein, jahan jahan woh bartan paani ke andar chhupa rahey......"Mahajan Sahib, yeh group soya nahi hai. shayad ap jaise badey bhai ki chhatar chhya ko paakar thoda nishchint aur be-fikar zarur ho gaya hai. Ab dekhiye, ap ne jhajhkor diya to bachey jaag padey na?RespectfullyYograj Prabhakar--- On Thu, 23/10/08, mts3434 <mts3434 wrote:mts3434 <mts3434 Re: effects of sixth house saturn Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 9:56 AM

Livia ji,

Namaskar

aapko shayad yeh jankar hairani hogi ki yeh group soya hua hai. yeh

group neend se kab jagega koi nahi janta.

Shani khana no 6 mein ho to second hand item hee leni chahiye ,

nayee item wafa nahi karegi aisa mera vichar hai. kai baar to yeh

dekhne mein aya hai ki aise jatak shadi bhee uss ladki se hogi jiska

pehle rishta toot chuka ho ya shadi ho chuki ho (wife bhee second

hand milegi)khaskar ke aise jatak ki behan (budh) ki shadi bhee uss

ladke se hoti hai jo pehle se hee shadi shuda hoga

(divorcee/widower) . nayee juti(chamra/ leather yeh belt ya purse bhee

ho sakta hai ) lene se usko jutiyan padne ka darr hai matlab ki kaam

thap, police ka jhagra.AISA JATAK AGAR KABARI KA KAAM KARE TO

KAMYAB HO SAKTA HAI. upay:-chamra daan kare , sarson oil ko chhapar

mein dabana detail mein shani khan no 6 ke upay dekhe.

Mahajan

DIWALI KI SABKO MUBARIK HO

MAHAJAN

, "livia tandon"

<liviatandon@ ...> wrote:

>

> Hi friends,

> Its been long when anyone of us has put up any topic to

discuss.So,just to

> break the monotony let me put up something.Well, i want to know or

even

> discuss the effects of saturn in sixth house,which is indeed

considered

> malefic.Moreover person with saturn in sixth is asked to buy

second hand

> things related to saturn,which actually is not possible every time

as

> footwear is also related to saturn and one can't go for second hand

> footwear.So, i want all my fellow friends to put some light on

this topic.

> Regards,

> Livia

>

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October 23, 2008

Hi frens,well its good that Mahajan ji and Prabhakar ji has given there veiws in a very beautiful manner.I must thank them.Prabhakar ji u r right that it has 100% drishti on 2nd house which is reverse.But what if jupiter is in its own house that is second house.I must say we are really priveleged to have u as our senior who can guide us regarding any problem.thanks ones again.

LiviaOn Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote:

Respected Mahajan SahibI have never came across such notion of purchasing Second Hand materials for Shani khana number 6, neither I found it anywhere mentioned in the Lal Kitab. I am not questioning your knowledge because purchasing an article of Ketu (Toys etc) while purchasing material of Saturn is also normally prescribe by the LK astrologers, so I believe that there may be some strong rationale behind this " Second Hand item " theory, since you are a seasoned Lal Kitabist having good amount of practical experience, you can explain it better.

Here is my two cents in this ongoing discussion:(1). Saturn in 6th has a reverse drishti on 2nd house.(2). Saturn in this house depends upon the plcement/nature of Ketu in the horoscope.(3). Saturns gives bad effects in this house only during the day.

(4). If a native marries before the age

of 28. it may affect Moon, ketu and Venus badly.(5). The native will never be childless normally. (6). Normaly Ketu and Mercury will not be in Mandi Haalat(7). After the age of 42 shani will be very bnefic for the native.

(8). Native should not purchase new leather shoes, machinery or construct house when Saturn of khana number 6 come to khana no. 6 during the varshphal, otherwise, the native may face problem from government/employer/court/police etc.

(9). Similarly, while Saturn or khana number 6 came to khana no. 6 during the varshphal the native may lost his shoes (particularly in a Dharam Sthan). (10). Feeding the snakes and immersing Nariyal & Badam in running water are also recommended remedies mentioned in the Lal kitab.

Regarding the remedy of burying sarson oil in a chhapar mentioned by you, I am reproducing the exact text from LK-1952 page no. 616: " Saneechar number 6 ki aam mandee haalat se bachney

ya zehreeley asar ko rokney ke liye sarson ke tel se bahara huya bartan (mitti ka) kisi talaab ya dariya ke paani ke andar zameen ki taiy mein dabayein, jahan jahan woh bartan paani ke andar chhupa rahey...... "

Mahajan Sahib, yeh group soya nahi hai. shayad ap jaise badey bhai ki chhatar chhya ko paakar thoda nishchint aur be-fikar zarur ho gaya hai. Ab dekhiye, ap ne jhajhkor diya to bachey jaag padey na?Respectfully

Yograj Prabhakar--- On Thu, 23/10/08, mts3434 <mts3434 wrote:

mts3434 <mts3434 Re: effects of sixth house saturn

Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 9:56 AM

Livia ji,

Namaskar

aapko shayad yeh jankar hairani hogi ki yeh group soya hua hai. yeh

group neend se kab jagega koi nahi janta.

Shani khana no 6 mein ho to second hand item hee leni chahiye ,

nayee item wafa nahi karegi aisa mera vichar hai. kai baar to yeh

dekhne mein aya hai ki aise jatak shadi bhee uss ladki se hogi jiska

pehle rishta toot chuka ho ya shadi ho chuki ho (wife bhee second

hand milegi)khaskar ke aise jatak ki behan (budh) ki shadi bhee uss

ladke se hoti hai jo pehle se hee shadi shuda hoga

(divorcee/widower) . nayee juti(chamra/ leather yeh belt ya purse bhee

ho sakta hai ) lene se usko jutiyan padne ka darr hai matlab ki kaam

thap, police ka jhagra.AISA JATAK AGAR KABARI KA KAAM KARE TO

KAMYAB HO SAKTA HAI. upay:-chamra daan kare , sarson oil ko chhapar

mein dabana detail mein shani khan no 6 ke upay dekhe.

Mahajan

DIWALI KI SABKO MUBARIK HO

MAHAJAN

, " livia tandon "

<liviatandon@ ...> wrote:

>

> Hi friends,

> Its been long when anyone of us has put up any topic to

discuss.So,just to

> break the monotony let me put up something.Well, i want to know or

even

> discuss the effects of saturn in sixth house,which is indeed

considered

> malefic.Moreover person with saturn in sixth is asked to buy

second hand

> things related to saturn,which actually is not possible every time

as

> footwear is also related to saturn and one can't go for second hand

> footwear.So, i want all my fellow friends to put some light on

this topic.

> Regards,

> Livia

>

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October 24, 2008

Very Respected Bhaskar Ji,First

of all, I thank you on behalf of Astrostudents group for blessing us by

joining our community. I hope that we shall all be benefited by your

presence.Following are the answers of your queries://1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since last many years, //Ans

: The period of Saturn is over, moreover the second term of 35-year

cycle has also started, Saturn should not give bad results now. In my

personal opinion, if you need to purchase such items especially at the

time when Saturn of 6th comes to 6th house during Varshphal, you should

also buy a toy (item of ketu) along with Shoes etc.//2) I have already crossed age of 42, about 6 years back. So now purchasing new items of Shani

on Saturday will not harm me ?//Ans: Lal kitab has clearly said regarding that and I have also mentioned it, so you should not be much worried much now.//3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what must be done now, to make amends ?//Ans: The damage has already been done sir. You cant do anything now. //4)

You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the day ?

Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn will not

become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become afflicted ? ( I

think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed moderate drinking-

Or am i wrong ?)//Ans: Sir,

it is not me, but Pundit Roop Chand Joshi ji has said that, and it can

not be wrong. But by saying that Pundit ji has certainly not indicated

towards drinking or allowed it, he rather indicated towards

starting/doing the business related to Saturn. Moderate drinking can

not be ruled out for Saturn in 4th house, but it should be done only if

a native faces health problems.RespectfullyYograj Prabhakar , "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> Sir,> > 1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since > last many years, due to Saturn being in 6th house in my Natal chart. > But of course when has to attend marriages and other such functions, > one has to buy leather shoes, in that case what must be the proper > course of action ? > > 2) I have already crossed age of 42 , about 6 years back. So now > purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ? > > 3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what > must be done now, to make amends ?> > 4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the > day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn > will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become > afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed > moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > > , Yograj Prabhakar > yr_prabhakar@ wrote:> >> > Respected Mahajan Sahib> > > > I have never came across such notion of purchasing Second Hand > materials for Shani khana number 6, neither I found it anywhere > mentioned in the Lal Kitab. I am not questioning your knowledge > because purchasing an article of Ketu (Toys etc) while purchasing > material of Saturn is also normally prescribe by the LK astrologers, > so I believe that there may be some strong rationale behind > this "Second Hand item" theory, since you are a seasoned Lal Kitabist > having good amount of practical experience, you can explain it > better..> > > > Here is my two cents in this ongoing discussion:> > (1). Saturn in 6th has a reverse drishti on 2nd house.> > (2). Saturn in this house depends upon the plcement/nature of Ketu > in the horoscope.> > (3). Saturns gives bad effects in this house only during the day.> > (4). If a native marries before the age of 28. it may affect Moon, > ketu and Venus > > badly.> > (5). The native will never be childless normally. > > (6). Normaly Ketu and Mercury will not be in Mandi Haalat> > (7). After the age of 42 shani will be very bnefic for the native.> > (8). Native should not purchase new leather shoes, machinery or > construct house when Saturn of khana number 6 come to khana no. 6 > during the varshphal, otherwise, the native may face problem from > government/employer/court/police etc. > > (9). Similarly, while Saturn or khana number 6 came to khana no. 6 > during the varshphal the native may lost his shoes (particularly in a > Dharam Sthan).. > > (10). Feeding the snakes and immersing Nariyal & Badam in running > water are also recommended remedies mentioned in the Lal kitab.> > > > Regarding the remedy of burying sarson oil in a chhapar mentioned > by you, I am reproducing the exact text from LK-1952 page no. 616:> > > > "Saneechar number 6 ki aam mandee haalat se bachney ya zehreeley > asar ko rokney ke > > liye sarson ke tel se bahara huya bartan (mitti ka) kisi talaab ya > dariya ke paani > > ke andar zameen ki taiy mein dabayein, jahan jahan woh bartan paani > ke andar chhupa rahey......"> > > > Mahajan Sahib, yeh group soya nahi hai. shayad ap jaise badey bhai > ki chhatar chhya ko paakar thoda nishchint aur be-fikar zarur ho gaya > hai. Ab dekhiye, ap ne jhajhkor diya to bachey jaag padey na?> > > > Respectfully> > Yograj Prabhakar> > > > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@ wrote:> > mts3434 mts3434@> > Re: effects of sixth house saturn> > > > Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 9:56 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Livia ji,> > > > Namaskar> > > > aapko shayad yeh jankar hairani hogi ki yeh group soya hua hai. yeh > > > > group neend se kab jagega koi nahi janta.> > > > Shani khana no 6 mein ho to second hand item hee leni chahiye , > > > > nayee item wafa nahi karegi aisa mera vichar hai. kai baar to yeh > > > > dekhne mein aya hai ki aise jatak shadi bhee uss ladki se hogi > jiska > > > > pehle rishta toot chuka ho ya shadi ho chuki ho (wife bhee second > > > > hand milegi)khaskar ke aise jatak ki behan (budh) ki shadi bhee uss > > > > ladke se hoti hai jo pehle se hee shadi shuda hoga> > > > (divorcee/widower) . nayee juti(chamra/ leather yeh belt ya purse > bhee > > > > ho sakta hai ) lene se usko jutiyan padne ka darr hai matlab ki > kaam > > > > thap, police ka jhagra.AISA JATAK AGAR KABARI KA KAAM KARE TO > > > > KAMYAB HO SAKTA HAI. upay:-chamra daan kare , sarson oil ko chhapar > > > > mein dabana detail mein shani khan no 6 ke upay dekhe.> > > > > > > > Mahajan> > > > > > > > DIWALI KI SABKO MUBARIK HO > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN> > > > , "livia tandon" > > > > <liviatandon@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hi friends,> > > > > Its been long when anyone of us has put up any topic to > > > > discuss.So,just to> > > > > break the monotony let me put up something.Well, i want to know > or > > > > even> > > > > discuss the effects of saturn in sixth house,which is indeed > > > > considered> > > > > malefic.Moreover person with saturn in sixth is asked to buy > > > > second hand> > > > > things related to saturn,which actually is not possible every > time > > > > as> > > > > footwear is also related to saturn and one can't go for second > hand> > > > > footwear.So, i want all my fellow friends to put some light on > > > > this topic.> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Livia> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to > http://in.messenger./win/> >>

October 24, 2008

Dear Shri Yograjji,

Thank you for the pleasant welcome. I also thank Shri Bharadwaj ji for

his informing me about this Group and his invite to me.

It is my honour to be amongst you elevated people. I hope to learn a lot

about this great system of prognosication through learned exponents like

your goodself.

Your answers have been very specific and clear in imparting the required

knowledge.

I enjoyed reading your editorial in the Kitab Shri Bharadwaj ji gifted

me, and must say that your hold over the Hindi language is really

marvellous. I will be re-reading those pages once again as and whenI am

able to.

best wishes for the great work you are doing.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " Yograj Prabhakar "

<yr_prabhakar wrote:

>

> Very Respected Bhaskar Ji,

>

> First of all, I thank you on behalf of Astrostudents group for

blessing

> us by joining our community. I hope that we shall all be benefited by

> your presence.Following are the answers of your queries:

>

> //1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since

> last many years, //

>

> Ans : The period of Saturn is over, moreover the second term of

35-year

> cycle has also started, Saturn should not give bad results now. In my

> personal opinion, if you need to purchase such items especially at the

> time when Saturn of 6th comes to 6th house during Varshphal, you

should

> also buy a toy (item of ketu) along with Shoes etc.

>

> //2) I have already crossed age of 42, about 6 years back. So now

> purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?//

>

> Ans: Lal kitab has clearly said regarding that and I have also

> mentioned it, so you should not be much worried much now.

>

> //3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what

> must be done now, to make amends ?//

>

> Ans: The damage has already been done sir. You cant do anything now.

>

> //4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the

day

> ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn will

not

> become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become afflicted ? ( I

> think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed moderate

drinking-

> Or am i wrong ?)//

>

> Ans: Sir, it is not me, but Pundit Roop Chand Joshi ji has said that,

> and it can not be wrong. But by saying that Pundit ji has certainly

not

> indicated towards drinking or allowed it, he rather indicated towards

> starting/doing the business related to Saturn. Moderate drinking can

not

> be ruled out for Saturn in 4th house, but it should be done only if a

> native faces health problems.

>

> Respectfully

> Yograj Prabhakar

>

> , " Bhaskar " rajiventerprises@

> wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > 1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since

> > last many years, due to Saturn being in 6th house in my Natal chart.

> > But of course when has to attend marriages and other such functions,

> > one has to buy leather shoes, in that case what must be the proper

> > course of action ?

> >

> > 2) I have already crossed age of 42 , about 6 years back. So now

> > purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?

> >

> > 3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what

> > must be done now, to make amends ?

> >

> > 4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the

> > day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn

> > will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become

> > afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed

> > moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Yograj Prabhakar

> > yr_prabhakar@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Mahajan Sahib

> > >

> > > I have never came across such notion of purchasing Second Hand

> > materials for Shani khana number 6, neither I found it anywhere

> > mentioned in the Lal Kitab. I am not questioning your knowledge

> > because purchasing an article of Ketu (Toys etc) while purchasing

> > material of Saturn is also normally prescribe by the LK astrologers,

> > so I believe that there may be some strong rationale behind

> > this " Second Hand item " theory, since you are a seasoned Lal

Kitabist

> > having good amount of practical experience, you can explain it

> > better..

> > >

> > > Here is my two cents in this ongoing discussion:

> > > (1). Saturn in 6th has a reverse drishti on 2nd house.

> > > (2). Saturn in this house depends upon the plcement/nature of Ketu

> > in the horoscope.

> > > (3). Saturns gives bad effects in this house only during the day.

> > > (4). If a native marries before the age of 28. it may affect Moon,

> > ketu and Venus

> > > badly.

> > > (5). The native will never be childless normally.

> > > (6). Normaly Ketu and Mercury will not be in Mandi Haalat

> > > (7). After the age of 42 shani will be very bnefic for the native.

> > > (8). Native should not purchase new leather shoes, machinery or

> > construct house when Saturn of khana number 6 come to khana no. 6

> > during the varshphal, otherwise, the native may face problem from

> > government/employer/court/police etc.

> > > (9). Similarly, while Saturn or khana number 6 came to khana no. 6

> > during the varshphal the native may lost his shoes (particularly in

a

> > Dharam Sthan)..

> > > (10). Feeding the snakes and immersing Nariyal & Badam in running

> > water are also recommended remedies mentioned in the Lal kitab.

> > >

> > > Regarding the remedy of burying sarson oil in a chhapar mentioned

> > by you, I am reproducing the exact text from LK-1952 page no. 616:

> > >

> > > " Saneechar number 6 ki aam mandee haalat se bachney ya zehreeley

> > asar ko rokney ke

> > > liye sarson ke tel se bahara huya bartan (mitti ka) kisi talaab ya

> > dariya ke paani

> > > ke andar zameen ki taiy mein dabayein, jahan jahan woh bartan

paani

> > ke andar chhupa rahey...... "

> > >

> > > Mahajan Sahib, yeh group soya nahi hai. shayad ap jaise badey bhai

> > ki chhatar chhya ko paakar thoda nishchint aur be-fikar zarur ho

gaya

> > hai. Ab dekhiye, ap ne jhajhkor diya to bachey jaag padey na?

> > >

> > > Respectfully

> > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@ wrote:

> > > mts3434 mts3434@

> > > Re: effects of sixth house saturn

> > >

> > > Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 9:56 AM

> > >

> > > Livia ji,

> > >

> > > Namaskar

> > >

> > > aapko shayad yeh jankar hairani hogi ki yeh group soya hua hai.

yeh

> > >

> > > group neend se kab jagega koi nahi janta.

> > >

> > > Shani khana no 6 mein ho to second hand item hee leni chahiye ,

> > >

> > > nayee item wafa nahi karegi aisa mera vichar hai. kai baar to yeh

> > >

> > > dekhne mein aya hai ki aise jatak shadi bhee uss ladki se hogi

> > jiska

> > >

> > > pehle rishta toot chuka ho ya shadi ho chuki ho (wife bhee second

> > >

> > > hand milegi)khaskar ke aise jatak ki behan (budh) ki shadi bhee

uss

> > >

> > > ladke se hoti hai jo pehle se hee shadi shuda hoga

> > >

> > > (divorcee/widower) . nayee juti(chamra/ leather yeh belt ya purse

> > bhee

> > >

> > > ho sakta hai ) lene se usko jutiyan padne ka darr hai matlab ki

> > kaam

> > >

> > > thap, police ka jhagra.AISA JATAK AGAR KABARI KA KAAM KARE TO

> > >

> > > KAMYAB HO SAKTA HAI. upay:-chamra daan kare , sarson oil ko

chhapar

> > >

> > > mein dabana detail mein shani khan no 6 ke upay dekhe.

> > >

> > > Mahajan

> > >

> > > DIWALI KI SABKO MUBARIK HO

> > >

> > > MAHAJAN

> > >

> > > , " livia tandon "

> > >

> > > <liviatandon@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Hi friends,

> > >

> > > > Its been long when anyone of us has put up any topic to

> > >

> > > discuss.So,just to

> > >

> > > > break the monotony let me put up something.Well, i want to know

> > or

> > >

> > > even

> > >

> > > > discuss the effects of saturn in sixth house,which is indeed

> > >

> > > considered

> > >

> > > > malefic.Moreover person with saturn in sixth is asked to buy

> > >

> > > second hand

> > >

> > > > things related to saturn,which actually is not possible every

> > time

> > >

> > > as

> > >

> > > > footwear is also related to saturn and one can't go for second

> > hand

> > >

> > > > footwear.So, i want all my fellow friends to put some light on

> > >

> > > this topic.

> > >

> > > > Regards,

> > >

> > > > Livia

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to

> > http://in.messenger./win/

> > >

> >

>

October 24, 2008

Respected Bhaskar Jee,

A word on alcohol as a medicine. There is no such thing as "moderate drinking of alcohol." Per Pt Som Dutt Jee, drinking a drop or a drum, it's the same thing, the quantity doesn't matter. It's like being pregnant - there is no such thing as "slightly pregnant." Use of alcohol (by those for whom it is otherwise prohibited per LalKitab) is permitted only as a medication and if and only if prescribed by a physician. One just can't self-prescribe alcohol as a "needed" medicine and circumvent the instructions of LalKitab. This is not a situation where one can find a loophole in the legal system. The purpose of my Email is to only clarify this issue as I have come across numerous cases where people and LalKitab experts circumvented this rule for their own convenience.

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote:

Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar Re: effects of sixth house saturn Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 2:18 AM

Very Respected Bhaskar Ji,

First of all, I thank you on behalf of Astrostudents group for blessing us by joining our community. I hope that we shall all be benefited by your presence.Following are the answers of your queries://1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since last many years, //Ans : The period of Saturn is over, moreover the second term of 35-year cycle has also started, Saturn should not give bad results now. In my personal opinion, if you need to purchase such items especially at the time when Saturn of 6th comes to 6th house during Varshphal, you should also buy a toy (item of ketu) along with Shoes etc.//2) I have already crossed age of 42, about 6 years back. So now purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?//Ans: Lal kitab has clearly said regarding that and I

have also mentioned it, so you should not be much worried much now.//3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what must be done now, to make amends ?//Ans: The damage has already been done sir. You cant do anything now. //4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)//Ans: Sir, it is not me, but Pundit Roop Chand Joshi ji has said that, and it can not be wrong. But by saying that Pundit ji has certainly not indicated towards drinking or allowed it, he rather indicated towards starting/doing the business related to Saturn. Moderate

drinking can not be ruled out for Saturn in 4th house, but it should be done only if a native faces health problems.RespectfullyYograj Prabhakar, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:>> Sir,> > 1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since > last many years, due to Saturn being in 6th house in my Natal chart. > But of course when has to attend marriages and other such functions, > one has to buy leather shoes, in that case what must be the proper > course of action ? > > 2) I have already crossed age of 42 , about 6 years back. So now > purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ? > > 3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what > must be done now, to make amends ?> > 4) You said

saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the > day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn > will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become > afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed > moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > > , Yograj Prabhakar > yr_prabhakar@ wrote:> >> > Respected Mahajan Sahib> > > > I have never came across such notion of purchasing Second Hand > materials for Shani khana number 6, neither I found it anywhere > mentioned in the Lal Kitab. I am not questioning your knowledge > because purchasing an article of Ketu (Toys etc) while purchasing > material of Saturn is also normally prescribe by the LK astrologers, > so I believe that there may be some

strong rationale behind > this "Second Hand item" theory, since you are a seasoned Lal Kitabist > having good amount of practical experience, you can explain it > better..> > > > Here is my two cents in this ongoing discussion:> > (1). Saturn in 6th has a reverse drishti on 2nd house.> > (2). Saturn in this house depends upon the plcement/nature of Ketu > in the horoscope.> > (3). Saturns gives bad effects in this house only during the day.> > (4). If a native marries before the age of 28. it may affect Moon, > ketu and Venus > > badly.> > (5). The native will never be childless normally. > > (6). Normaly Ketu and Mercury will not be in Mandi Haalat> > (7). After the age of 42 shani will be very bnefic for the native.> > (8). Native should not purchase new leather shoes, machinery or > construct house

when Saturn of khana number 6 come to khana no. 6 > during the varshphal, otherwise, the native may face problem from > government/employer /court/police etc. > > (9). Similarly, while Saturn or khana number 6 came to khana no. 6 > during the varshphal the native may lost his shoes (particularly in a > Dharam Sthan).. > > (10). Feeding the snakes and immersing Nariyal & Badam in running > water are also recommended remedies mentioned in the Lal kitab.> > > > Regarding the remedy of burying sarson oil in a chhapar mentioned > by you, I am reproducing the exact text from LK-1952 page no. 616:> > > > "Saneechar number 6 ki aam mandee haalat se bachney ya zehreeley > asar ko rokney ke > > liye sarson ke tel se bahara huya bartan (mitti ka) kisi talaab ya > dariya ke paani > > ke andar zameen ki taiy mein dabayein, jahan

jahan woh bartan paani > ke andar chhupa rahey......"> > > > Mahajan Sahib, yeh group soya nahi hai. shayad ap jaise badey bhai > ki chhatar chhya ko paakar thoda nishchint aur be-fikar zarur ho gaya > hai. Ab dekhiye, ap ne jhajhkor diya to bachey jaag padey na?> > > > Respectfully> > Yograj Prabhakar> > > > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@ wrote:> > mts3434 mts3434@> > Re: effects of sixth house saturn> > > > Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 9:56 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Livia ji,> > > > Namaskar> > > > aapko shayad yeh jankar hairani hogi ki yeh group soya hua hai. yeh

> > > > group neend se kab jagega koi nahi janta.> > > > Shani khana no 6 mein ho to second hand item hee leni chahiye , > > > > nayee item wafa nahi karegi aisa mera vichar hai. kai baar to yeh > > > > dekhne mein aya hai ki aise jatak shadi bhee uss ladki se hogi > jiska > > > > pehle rishta toot chuka ho ya shadi ho chuki ho (wife bhee second > > > > hand milegi)khaskar ke aise jatak ki behan (budh) ki shadi bhee uss > > > > ladke se hoti hai jo pehle se hee shadi shuda hoga> > > > (divorcee/widower) . nayee juti(chamra/ leather yeh belt ya purse > bhee > > > > ho sakta hai ) lene se usko jutiyan padne ka darr hai matlab ki > kaam > > > > thap, police ka jhagra.AISA JATAK AGAR KABARI KA KAAM KARE TO > > > > KAMYAB

HO SAKTA HAI. upay:-chamra daan kare , sarson oil ko chhapar > > > > mein dabana detail mein shani khan no 6 ke upay dekhe.> > > > > > > > Mahajan> > > > > > > > DIWALI KI SABKO MUBARIK HO > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN> > > > , "livia tandon" > > > > <liviatandon@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Hi friends,> > > > > Its been long when anyone of us has put up any topic to > > > > discuss.So,just to> > > > > break the monotony let me put up something.Well, i want to know > or > > > > even> > > > > discuss the effects of saturn in sixth house,which is indeed > > > >

considered> > > > > malefic.Moreover person with saturn in sixth is asked to buy > > > > second hand> > > > > things related to saturn,which actually is not possible every > time > > > > as> > > > > footwear is also related to saturn and one can't go for second > hand> > > > > footwear.So, i want all my fellow friends to put some light on > > > > this topic.> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Livia> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to > http://in.messenger ./ win/> >>

October 24, 2008

dear Prabhakar ji,

I have a feeling that in case of sani 6, leather shoes which have a

rubber sole so that leather does not touch the ground can be

purchased and worn.

What do Gurujans say?

best wishes,

kiranjit , " Yograj Prabhakar "

<yr_prabhakar wrote:

>

> Very Respected Bhaskar Ji,

>

> First of all, I thank you on behalf of Astrostudents group for

blessing

> us by joining our community. I hope that we shall all be benefited

by

> your presence.Following are the answers of your queries:

>

> //1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes

since

> last many years, //

>

> Ans : The period of Saturn is over, moreover the second term of 35-

year

> cycle has also started, Saturn should not give bad results now. In

my

> personal opinion, if you need to purchase such items especially at

the

> time when Saturn of 6th comes to 6th house during Varshphal, you

should

> also buy a toy (item of ketu) along with Shoes etc.

>

> //2) I have already crossed age of 42, about 6 years back. So now

> purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?//

>

> Ans: Lal kitab has clearly said regarding that and I have also

> mentioned it, so you should not be much worried much now.

>

> //3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then

what

> must be done now, to make amends ?//

>

> Ans: The damage has already been done sir. You cant do anything

now.

>

> //4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during

the day

> ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn

will not

> become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become afflicted ?

( I

> think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed moderate

drinking-

> Or am i wrong ?)//

>

> Ans: Sir, it is not me, but Pundit Roop Chand Joshi ji has said

that,

> and it can not be wrong. But by saying that Pundit ji has

certainly not

> indicated towards drinking or allowed it, he rather indicated

towards

> starting/doing the business related to Saturn. Moderate drinking

can not

> be ruled out for Saturn in 4th house, but it should be done only

if a

> native faces health problems.

>

> Respectfully

> Yograj Prabhakar

>

> , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > 1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes

since

> > last many years, due to Saturn being in 6th house in my Natal

chart.

> > But of course when has to attend marriages and other such

functions,

> > one has to buy leather shoes, in that case what must be the

proper

> > course of action ?

> >

> > 2) I have already crossed age of 42 , about 6 years back. So now

> > purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?

> >

> > 3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then

what

> > must be done now, to make amends ?

> >

> > 4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during

the

> > day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night,

Saturn

> > will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become

> > afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are

allowed

> > moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Yograj Prabhakar

> > yr_prabhakar@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Mahajan Sahib

> > >

> > > I have never came across such notion of purchasing Second Hand

> > materials for Shani khana number 6, neither I found it anywhere

> > mentioned in the Lal Kitab. I am not questioning your knowledge

> > because purchasing an article of Ketu (Toys etc) while purchasing

> > material of Saturn is also normally prescribe by the LK

astrologers,

> > so I believe that there may be some strong rationale behind

> > this " Second Hand item " theory, since you are a seasoned Lal

Kitabist

> > having good amount of practical experience, you can explain it

> > better..

> > >

> > > Here is my two cents in this ongoing discussion:

> > > (1). Saturn in 6th has a reverse drishti on 2nd house.

> > > (2). Saturn in this house depends upon the plcement/nature of

Ketu

> > in the horoscope.

> > > (3). Saturns gives bad effects in this house only during the

day.

> > > (4). If a native marries before the age of 28. it may affect

Moon,

> > ketu and Venus

> > > badly.

> > > (5). The native will never be childless normally.

> > > (6). Normaly Ketu and Mercury will not be in Mandi Haalat

> > > (7). After the age of 42 shani will be very bnefic for the

native.

> > > (8). Native should not purchase new leather shoes, machinery or

> > construct house when Saturn of khana number 6 come to khana no. 6

> > during the varshphal, otherwise, the native may face problem from

> > government/employer/court/police etc.

> > > (9). Similarly, while Saturn or khana number 6 came to khana

no. 6

> > during the varshphal the native may lost his shoes (particularly

in a

> > Dharam Sthan)..

> > > (10). Feeding the snakes and immersing Nariyal & Badam in

running

> > water are also recommended remedies mentioned in the Lal kitab.

> > >

> > > Regarding the remedy of burying sarson oil in a chhapar

mentioned

> > by you, I am reproducing the exact text from LK-1952 page no.

616:

> > >

> > > " Saneechar number 6 ki aam mandee haalat se bachney ya

zehreeley

> > asar ko rokney ke

> > > liye sarson ke tel se bahara huya bartan (mitti ka) kisi

talaab ya

> > dariya ke paani

> > > ke andar zameen ki taiy mein dabayein, jahan jahan woh bartan

paani

> > ke andar chhupa rahey...... "

> > >

> > > Mahajan Sahib, yeh group soya nahi hai. shayad ap jaise badey

bhai

> > ki chhatar chhya ko paakar thoda nishchint aur be-fikar zarur ho

gaya

> > hai. Ab dekhiye, ap ne jhajhkor diya to bachey jaag padey na?

> > >

> > > Respectfully

> > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@ wrote:

> > > mts3434 mts3434@

> > > Re: effects of sixth house saturn

> > >

> > > Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 9:56 AM

> > >

> > > Livia ji,

> > >

> > > Namaskar

> > >

> > > aapko shayad yeh jankar hairani hogi ki yeh group soya hua

hai. yeh

> > >

> > > group neend se kab jagega koi nahi janta.

> > >

> > > Shani khana no 6 mein ho to second hand item hee leni chahiye ,

> > >

> > > nayee item wafa nahi karegi aisa mera vichar hai. kai baar to

yeh

> > >

> > > dekhne mein aya hai ki aise jatak shadi bhee uss ladki se hogi

> > jiska

> > >

> > > pehle rishta toot chuka ho ya shadi ho chuki ho (wife bhee

second

> > >

> > > hand milegi)khaskar ke aise jatak ki behan (budh) ki shadi

bhee uss

> > >

> > > ladke se hoti hai jo pehle se hee shadi shuda hoga

> > >

> > > (divorcee/widower) . nayee juti(chamra/ leather yeh belt ya

purse

> > bhee

> > >

> > > ho sakta hai ) lene se usko jutiyan padne ka darr hai matlab ki

> > kaam

> > >

> > > thap, police ka jhagra.AISA JATAK AGAR KABARI KA KAAM KARE TO

> > >

> > > KAMYAB HO SAKTA HAI. upay:-chamra daan kare , sarson oil ko

chhapar

> > >

> > > mein dabana detail mein shani khan no 6 ke upay dekhe.

> > >

> > > Mahajan

> > >

> > > DIWALI KI SABKO MUBARIK HO

> > >

> > > MAHAJAN

> > >

> > > , " livia tandon "

> > >

> > > <liviatandon@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Hi friends,

> > >

> > > > Its been long when anyone of us has put up any topic to

> > >

> > > discuss.So,just to

> > >

> > > > break the monotony let me put up something.Well, i want to

know

> > or

> > >

> > > even

> > >

> > > > discuss the effects of saturn in sixth house,which is indeed

> > >

> > > considered

> > >

> > > > malefic.Moreover person with saturn in sixth is asked to buy

> > >

> > > second hand

> > >

> > > > things related to saturn,which actually is not possible every

> > time

> > >

> > > as

> > >

> > > > footwear is also related to saturn and one can't go for

second

> > hand

> > >

> > > > footwear.So, i want all my fellow friends to put some light

on

> > >

> > > this topic.

> > >

> > > > Regards,

> > >

> > > > Livia

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! Go to

> > http://in.messenger./win/

> > >

> >

>

October 25, 2008

Dear Friends,

Old clothes does not necessarily mean used clothes.

As regards drinking , even in medical terms , if one drinks less

it harms less , if one will drink more , he will be put to more harm.

These upayas are valid and are required to be observed particularly

if Saturn in 6h in yearly chart or in 36th year ,the ruling year of Saturn.

Regards,

G.K.GOEL

Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar Sent: Saturday, 25 October, 2008 12:05:37 PMRe: Re: effects of sixth house saturn

Respected Dr. Sahib,Only the Punjabi Jutti (Khussa) is fully made of leather. Almost every branded shoe has Rubber sole. So we should stick to the basics and avoid leather shoes (for Sat kahna no. 6)as advised by Pundit jee.RespectfullyYograj Prabhakar --- On Sat, 25/10/08, kapatjal <kapatjal > wrote:

kapatjal <kapatjal > Re: effects of sixth house saturnSaturday, 25 October, 2008, 8:33 AM

dear Prabhakar ji,I have a feeling that in case of sani 6, leather shoes which have a rubber sole so that leather does not touch the ground can be purchased and worn.What do Gurujans say?best wishes,kiranjit, "Yograj Prabhakar" <yr_prabhakar@ ...> wrote:>> Very Respected Bhaskar Ji,> > First of all, I thank you on behalf of Astrostudents group for blessing> us by joining our community. I hope that we shall all be benefited by> your presence.Following are the answers of your queries:> > //1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since> last many years, //> > Ans : The period of Saturn is over, moreover the second term of 35-year>

cycle has also started, Saturn should not give bad results now. In my> personal opinion, if you need to purchase such items especially at the> time when Saturn of 6th comes to 6th house during Varshphal, you should> also buy a toy (item of ketu) along with Shoes etc.> > //2) I have already crossed age of 42, about 6 years back. So now> purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?//> > Ans: Lal kitab has clearly said regarding that and I have also> mentioned it, so you should not be much worried much now.> > //3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what> must be done now, to make amends ?//> > Ans: The damage has already been done sir. You cant do anything now.> > //4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the day> ? Then does it mean that if he drinks

alcohol at night, Saturn will not> become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become afflicted ? ( I> think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed moderate drinking-> Or am i wrong ?)//> > Ans: Sir, it is not me, but Pundit Roop Chand Joshi ji has said that,> and it can not be wrong. But by saying that Pundit ji has certainly not> indicated towards drinking or allowed it, he rather indicated towards> starting/doing the business related to Saturn. Moderate drinking can not> be ruled out for Saturn in 4th house, but it should be done only if a> native faces health problems.> > Respectfully> Yograj Prabhakar> > , "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises@

>> wrote:> >> > Sir,> >> > 1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since> > last many years, due to Saturn being in 6th house in my Natal chart.> > But of course when has to attend marriages and other such functions,> > one has to buy leather shoes, in that case what must be the proper> > course of action ?> >> > 2) I have already crossed age of 42 , about 6 years back. So now> > purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?> >> > 3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what> > must be done now, to make amends ?> >> > 4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the> > day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn> > will not become afflicted,

and in turn Jupiter will not become> > afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed> > moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)> >> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> >> >> > , Yograj Prabhakar> > yr_prabhakar@ wrote:> > >> > > Respected Mahajan Sahib> > >> > > I have never came across such notion of purchasing Second Hand> > materials for Shani khana number 6, neither I found it anywhere> > mentioned in the Lal Kitab. I am not questioning your knowledge> > because purchasing an article of Ketu (Toys etc) while purchasing> > material of Saturn is also normally prescribe by the LK

astrologers,> > so I believe that there may be some strong rationale behind> > this "Second Hand item" theory, since you are a seasoned Lal Kitabist> > having good amount of practical experience, you can explain it> > better..> > >> > > Here is my two cents in this ongoing discussion:> > > (1). Saturn in 6th has a reverse drishti on 2nd house.> > > (2). Saturn in this house depends upon the plcement/nature of Ketu> > in the horoscope.> > > (3). Saturns gives bad effects in this house only during the day.> > > (4). If a native marries before the age of 28. it may affect Moon,> > ketu and Venus> > > badly.> > > (5). The native will never be childless normally.> > > (6). Normaly Ketu and Mercury will not be in Mandi Haalat> > > (7). After the age of

42 shani will be very bnefic for the native.> > > (8). Native should not purchase new leather shoes, machinery or> > construct house when Saturn of khana number 6 come to khana no. 6> > during the varshphal, otherwise, the native may face problem from> > government/employer /court/police etc.> > > (9). Similarly, while Saturn or khana number 6 came to khana no. 6> > during the varshphal the native may lost his shoes (particularly in a> > Dharam Sthan)..> > > (10). Feeding the snakes and immersing Nariyal & Badam in running> > water are also recommended remedies mentioned in the Lal kitab.> > >> > > Regarding the remedy of burying sarson oil in a chhapar mentioned> > by you, I am reproducing the exact text from LK-1952 page no. 616:> > >> > > "Saneechar number 6 ki aam

mandee haalat se bachney ya zehreeley> > asar ko rokney ke> > > liye sarson ke tel se bahara huya bartan (mitti ka) kisi talaab ya> > dariya ke paani> > > ke andar zameen ki taiy mein dabayein, jahan jahan woh bartan paani> > ke andar chhupa rahey......"> > >> > > Mahajan Sahib, yeh group soya nahi hai. shayad ap jaise badey bhai> > ki chhatar chhya ko paakar thoda nishchint aur be-fikar zarur ho gaya> > hai. Ab dekhiye, ap ne jhajhkor diya to bachey jaag padey na?> > >> > > Respectfully> > > Yograj Prabhakar> > >> > > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@ wrote:> > > mts3434 mts3434@> > > Re: effects of sixth house saturn> > > > > > Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 9:56 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Livia ji,> > >> > > Namaskar> > >> > > aapko shayad yeh jankar hairani hogi ki yeh group soya hua hai. yeh> > >> > > group neend se kab jagega koi nahi janta.> > >> > > Shani khana no 6 mein ho to second hand item hee leni chahiye ,> > >> > > nayee item wafa nahi karegi aisa mera vichar hai. kai baar to yeh> > >> > > dekhne mein aya hai ki aise jatak shadi bhee uss ladki se hogi> > jiska> > >>

> > pehle rishta toot chuka ho ya shadi ho chuki ho (wife bhee second> > >> > > hand milegi)khaskar ke aise jatak ki behan (budh) ki shadi bhee uss> > >> > > ladke se hoti hai jo pehle se hee shadi shuda hoga> > >> > > (divorcee/widower) . nayee juti(chamra/ leather yeh belt ya purse> > bhee> > >> > > ho sakta hai ) lene se usko jutiyan padne ka darr hai matlab ki> > kaam> > >> > > thap, police ka jhagra.AISA JATAK AGAR KABARI KA KAAM KARE TO> > >> > > KAMYAB HO SAKTA HAI. upay:-chamra daan kare , sarson oil ko chhapar> > >> > > mein dabana detail mein shani khan no 6 ke upay dekhe.> > >> > >> > >> > > Mahajan> > >> > >> > >> > >

DIWALI KI SABKO MUBARIK HO> > >> > >> > >> > > MAHAJAN> > >> > > , "livia tandon"> > >> > > <liviatandon@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Hi friends,> > >> > > > Its been long when anyone of us has put up any topic to> > >> > > discuss.So,just to> > >> > > > break the monotony let me put up something.Well, i want to know> > or> > >> > > even> > >> > > > discuss the effects of saturn in sixth house,which is indeed> > >> > > considered> > >> > > > malefic.Moreover person with saturn in sixth is asked to buy> > >> > >

second hand> > >> > > > things related to saturn,which actually is not possible every> > time> > >> > > as> > >> > > > footwear is also related to saturn and one can't go for second> > hand> > >> > > > footwear.So, i want all my fellow friends to put some light on> > >> > > this topic.> > >> > > > Regards,> > >> > > > Livia> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >

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October 27, 2008

Members,

Namaskar,

shani khana no 6 par sabke vichar aa gaye hain lekin yeh kisi ne

nahi bataya ki agar shani ki ashyan kharidni hee pad jaye to kab

kharide, iske liye bhee lk mein likha hai ki jab chand na ho uss

raat ko kharidi jaye to theek.

abb isko aap yon samjhe ki shani amavas ko hee kharide to achha

rahega(matlab nuksan nahi hoga) agar aap juti/boot/leather kisi se

gift le le to shayad koi nuksan nahi hoga aap kisi rishtedar/freind

ko keh sakte hain ki aap mujhe shoes le de main apko kapde/ya usko

jo chahiye le de (iss bare mein apke kya vichar hain bataye)

Mahajan

, " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj "

<nirbhar wrote:

>

> Respected Prabhakar Ji,

>

> I remember that it is written in one of the lalkitab, that

Sanichar will

> give the nishani of becoming Manda(bad) through its own Ashhayian

(objects)

> like theft of ones shoes etc. etc. and also

>

> Will it not be useful to first ascertain the nature of Saturn with

realtion

> to position of Rahu Ketu.

>

> Please guide us.

> Regards

> Nirmal

>

> On 10/25/08, Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote:

> >

> > Respected Dr. Sahib,

> >

> > Only the Punjabi Jutti (Khussa) is fully made of leather. Almost

every

> > branded shoe has Rubber sole. So we should stick to the basics

and avoid

> > leather shoes (for Sat kahna no. 6)

> > as advised by Pundit jee.

> >

> > Respectfully

> > Yograj Prabhakar

> >

> > --- On *Sat, 25/10/08, kapatjal <kapatjal* wrote:

> >

> > kapatjal <kapatjal

> > Re: effects of sixth house saturn

> >

> > Saturday, 25 October, 2008, 8:33 AM

> >

> > dear Prabhakar ji,

> >

> > I have a feeling that in case of sani 6, leather shoes which

have a

> > rubber sole so that leather does not touch the ground can be

> > purchased and worn.

> > What do Gurujans say?

> >

> > best wishes,

> > kiranjit<%

40>,

> > " Yograj Prabhakar "

> > <yr_prabhakar@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Very Respected Bhaskar Ji,

> > >

> > > First of all, I thank you on behalf of Astrostudents group for

> > blessing

> > > us by joining our community. I hope that we shall all be

benefited

> > by

> > > your presence.Following are the answers of your queries:

> > >

> > > //1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes

> > since

> > > last many years, //

> > >

> > > Ans : The period of Saturn is over, moreover the second term

of 35-

> > year

> > > cycle has also started, Saturn should not give bad results

now. In

> > my

> > > personal opinion, if you need to purchase such items

especially at

> > the

> > > time when Saturn of 6th comes to 6th house during Varshphal,

you

> > should

> > > also buy a toy (item of ketu) along with Shoes etc.

> > >

> > > //2) I have already crossed age of 42, about 6 years back. So

now

> > > purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?//

> > >

> > > Ans: Lal kitab has clearly said regarding that and I have also

> > > mentioned it, so you should not be much worried much now.

> > >

> > > //3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28,

then

> > what

> > > must be done now, to make amends ?//

> > >

> > > Ans: The damage has already been done sir. You cant do anything

> > now.

> > >

> > > //4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only

during

> > the day

> > > ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn

> > will not

> > > become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become

afflicted ?

> > ( I

> > > think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed moderate

> > drinking-

> > > Or am i wrong ?)//

> > >

> > > Ans: Sir, it is not me, but Pundit Roop Chand Joshi ji has said

> > that,

> > > and it can not be wrong. But by saying that Pundit ji has

> > certainly not

> > > indicated towards drinking or allowed it, he rather indicated

> > towards

> > > starting/doing the business related to Saturn. Moderate

drinking

> > can not

> > > be ruled out for Saturn in 4th house, but it should be done

only

> > if a

> > > native faces health problems.

> > >

> > > Respectfully

> > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > >

> > > <%

40>,

> > " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises@ >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > >

> > > > 1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes

> > since

> > > > last many years, due to Saturn being in 6th house in my Natal

> > chart.

> > > > But of course when has to attend marriages and other such

> > functions,

> > > > one has to buy leather shoes, in that case what must be the

> > proper

> > > > course of action ?

> > > >

> > > > 2) I have already crossed age of 42 , about 6 years back. So

now

> > > > purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?

> > > >

> > > > 3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28,

then

> > what

> > > > must be done now, to make amends ?

> > > >

> > > > 4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only

during

> > the

> > > > day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night,

> > Saturn

> > > > will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not

become

> > > > afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are

> > allowed

> > > > moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > <%

40>,

> > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > yr_prabhakar@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Mahajan Sahib

> > > > >

> > > > > I have never came across such notion of purchasing Second

Hand

> > > > materials for Shani khana number 6, neither I found it

anywhere

> > > > mentioned in the Lal Kitab. I am not questioning your

knowledge

> > > > because purchasing an article of Ketu (Toys etc) while

purchasing

> > > > material of Saturn is also normally prescribe by the LK

> > astrologers,

> > > > so I believe that there may be some strong rationale behind

> > > > this " Second Hand item " theory, since you are a seasoned Lal

> > Kitabist

> > > > having good amount of practical experience, you can explain

it

> > > > better..

> > > > >

> > > > > Here is my two cents in this ongoing discussion:

> > > > > (1). Saturn in 6th has a reverse drishti on 2nd house.

> > > > > (2). Saturn in this house depends upon the plcement/nature

of

> > Ketu

> > > > in the horoscope.

> > > > > (3). Saturns gives bad effects in this house only during

the

> > day.

> > > > > (4). If a native marries before the age of 28. it may

affect

> > Moon,

> > > > ketu and Venus

> > > > > badly.

> > > > > (5). The native will never be childless normally.

> > > > > (6). Normaly Ketu and Mercury will not be in Mandi Haalat

> > > > > (7). After the age of 42 shani will be very bnefic for the

> > native.

> > > > > (8). Native should not purchase new leather shoes,

machinery or

> > > > construct house when Saturn of khana number 6 come to khana

no. 6

> > > > during the varshphal, otherwise, the native may face problem

from

> > > > government/employer /court/police etc.

> > > > > (9). Similarly, while Saturn or khana number 6 came to

khana

> > no. 6

> > > > during the varshphal the native may lost his shoes

(particularly

> > in a

> > > > Dharam Sthan)..

> > > > > (10). Feeding the snakes and immersing Nariyal & Badam in

> > running

> > > > water are also recommended remedies mentioned in the Lal

kitab.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regarding the remedy of burying sarson oil in a chhapar

> > mentioned

> > > > by you, I am reproducing the exact text from LK-1952 page no.

> > 616:

> > > > >

> > > > > " Saneechar number 6 ki aam mandee haalat se bachney ya

> > zehreeley

> > > > asar ko rokney ke

> > > > > liye sarson ke tel se bahara huya bartan (mitti ka) kisi

> > talaab ya

> > > > dariya ke paani

> > > > > ke andar zameen ki taiy mein dabayein, jahan jahan woh

bartan

> > paani

> > > > ke andar chhupa rahey...... "

> > > > >

> > > > > Mahajan Sahib, yeh group soya nahi hai. shayad ap jaise

badey

> > bhai

> > > > ki chhatar chhya ko paakar thoda nishchint aur be-fikar

zarur ho

> > gaya

> > > > hai. Ab dekhiye, ap ne jhajhkor diya to bachey jaag padey na?

> > > > >

> > > > > Respectfully

> > > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, mts3434 mts3434@ wrote:

> > > > > mts3434 mts3434@

> > > > > Re: effects of sixth house saturn

> > > > > <%

40>

> > > > > Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 9:56 AM

> > > > >

> > > > > Livia ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaskar

> > > > >

> > > > > aapko shayad yeh jankar hairani hogi ki yeh group soya hua

> > hai. yeh

> > > > >

> > > > > group neend se kab jagega koi nahi janta.

> > > > >

> > > > > Shani khana no 6 mein ho to second hand item hee leni

chahiye ,

> > > > >

> > > > > nayee item wafa nahi karegi aisa mera vichar hai. kai baar

to

> > yeh

> > > > >

> > > > > dekhne mein aya hai ki aise jatak shadi bhee uss ladki se

hogi

> > > > jiska

> > > > >

> > > > > pehle rishta toot chuka ho ya shadi ho chuki ho (wife bhee

> > second

> > > > >

> > > > > hand milegi)khaskar ke aise jatak ki behan (budh) ki shadi

> > bhee uss

> > > > >

> > > > > ladke se hoti hai jo pehle se hee shadi shuda hoga

> > > > >

> > > > > (divorcee/widower) . nayee juti(chamra/ leather yeh belt ya

> > purse

> > > > bhee

> > > > >

> > > > > ho sakta hai ) lene se usko jutiyan padne ka darr hai

matlab ki

> > > > kaam

> > > > >

> > > > > thap, police ka jhagra.AISA JATAK AGAR KABARI KA KAAM KARE

TO

> > > > >

> > > > > KAMYAB HO SAKTA HAI. upay:-chamra daan kare , sarson oil ko

> > chhapar

> > > > >

> > > > > mein dabana detail mein shani khan no 6 ke upay dekhe.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mahajan

> > > > >

> > > > > DIWALI KI SABKO MUBARIK HO

> > > > >

> > > > > MAHAJAN

> > > > >

> > > > > , " livia tandon "

> > > > >

> > > > > <liviatandon@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > > Its been long when anyone of us has put up any topic to

> > > > >

> > > > > discuss.So,just to

> > > > >

> > > > > > break the monotony let me put up something.Well, i want

to

> > know

> > > > or

> > > > >

> > > > > even

> > > > >

> > > > > > discuss the effects of saturn in sixth house,which is

indeed

> > > > >

> > > > > considered

> > > > >

> > > > > > malefic.Moreover person with saturn in sixth is asked to

buy

> > > > >

> > > > > second hand

> > > > >

> > > > > > things related to saturn,which actually is not possible

every

> > > > time

> > > > >

> > > > > as

> > > > >

> > > > > > footwear is also related to saturn and one can't go for

> > second

> > > > hand

> > > > >

> > > > > > footwear.So, i want all my fellow friends to put some

light

> > on

> > > > >

> > > > > this topic.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > > Livia

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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October 31, 2008

Dear Iqbal jee

Sorry for responding late. I think I was unable to make myself clear

in my earlier post. I have not suggested taking liquor at night in

Saturn in 6th house. I only said that in some cases (e.g. Sat in 4th)

such material can be consumed as medicine. As far as avoiding going to

temple is concerned, in this regard only planets posited in house no.

2, 8 and 12 are considered and there is no mention of house no. 6 in

Lal Kitab.

Sincerely

Yograj Prabhakar

, " Iqbal Singh "

<punjabilovebug wrote:

>

> Respected Yograj Bhai,

>

> Just one clarification - Are you suggesting that liquor taken at

night with Saturn in 6th will be considered okay, as Saturn's mandi

halat would only personify itself during daytime?

>

> Also - With an empty second house with Saturn in 6th, wouldn't it

also be prudent to avoid going to temples regularly considering the

reverse drishti of Saturn?

>

> Thank you for your continued scholarly guidance.

>

> Best Regards,

> Iqbal

>

> Sent via Blackberry

>

> Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar

>

> Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:39:31

>

> Re: Re: effects of sixth house saturn

>

> Very Respected Bhaskar Ji,

>

> First of all, I thank you on behalf of Astrostudents group for

blessing us by joining our community. I hope that we shall all be

benefited by your presence.Following are the answers of your queries:

>

> //1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since

last many years, //

>

> Ans : The period of Saturn is over, moreover the second term of

35-year cycle has also started, Saturn should not give bad results

now. In my personal opinion, if you need to purchase such items

especially at the time when Saturn of 6th comes to 6th house during

Varshphal, you should also buy a toy (item of ketu) along with Shoes etc.

>

> //2) I have already crossed age of 42, about 6 years back. So now

purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?//

>

> Ans:Â Lal kitab has clearly said regarding that and I have also

mentioned it, so you should not be much worried much now.

>

> //3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then

what must be done now, to make amends ?//

>

> Ans: The damage has already been done sir. You cant do anything now.Â

>

> //4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the

day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn

will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become

afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed

moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)//

>

> Ans:Â Sir, it is not me, but Pundit Roop Chand Joshi ji has said

that, and it can not be wrong. But by saying that Pundit ji has

certainly not indicated towards drinking or allowed it, he rather

indicated towards starting/doing the business related to Saturn.

Moderate drinking can not be ruled out for Saturn in 4th house, but it

should be done only if a native faces health problems.

>

> Respectfully

> Yograj Prabhakar

>

> --- On Thu, 23/10/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote:

> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

> Re: effects of sixth house saturn

>

> Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 6:10 PM

>

Sir,

>

> 1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since

>

> last many years, due to Saturn being in 6th house in my Natal chart.

>

> But of course when has to attend marriages and other such functions,

>

> one has to buy leather shoes, in that case what must be the proper

>

> course of action ?

>

> 2) I have already crossed age of 42 , about 6 years back. So now

>

> purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?

>

> 3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what

>

> must be done now, to make amends ?

>

> 4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the

>

> day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn

>

> will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become

>

> afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed

>

> moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)

>

> regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Yograj Prabhakar

>

> <yr_prabhakar@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Respected Mahajan Sahib

>

> >

>

> > I have never came across such notion of purchasing Second Hand

>

> materials for Shani khana number 6, neither I found it anywhere

>

> mentioned in the Lal Kitab. I am not questioning your knowledge

>

> because purchasing an article of Ketu (Toys etc) while purchasing

>

> material of Saturn is also normally prescribe by the LK astrologers,

>

> so I believe that there may be some strong rationale behind

>

> this " Second Hand item " theory, since you are a seasoned Lal Kitabist

>

> having good amount of practical experience, you can explain it

>

> better..

>

> >

>

> > Here is my two cents in this ongoing discussion:

>

> > (1). Saturn in 6th has a reverse drishti on 2nd house.

>

> > (2). Saturn in this house depends upon the plcement/nature of Ketu

>

> in the horoscope.

>

> > (3). Saturns gives bad effects in this house only during the day.

>

> > (4). If a native marries before the age of 28. it may affect Moon,

>

> ketu and Venus

>

> > badly.

>

> > (5). The native will never be childless normally.

>

> > (6). Normaly Ketu and Mercury will not be in Mandi Haalat

>

> > (7). After the age of 42 shani will be very bnefic for the native.

>

> > (8). Native should not purchase new leather shoes, machinery or

>

> construct house when Saturn of khana number 6 come to khana no. 6

>

> during the varshphal, otherwise, the native may face problem from

>

> government/employer /court/police etc.

>

> > (9). Similarly, while Saturn or khana number 6 came to khana no. 6

>

> during the varshphal the native may lost his shoes (particularly in a

>

> Dharam Sthan)..

>

> > (10). Feeding the snakes and immersing Nariyal & Badam in running

>

> water are also recommended remedies mentioned in the Lal kitab.

>

> >

>

> > Regarding the remedy of burying sarson oil in a chhapar mentioned

>

> by you, I am reproducing the exact text from LK-1952 page no. 616:

>

> >

>

> > " Saneechar number 6 ki aam mandee haalat se bachney ya zehreeley

>

> asar ko rokney ke

>

> > liye sarson ke tel se bahara huya bartan (mitti ka) kisi talaab ya

>

> dariya ke paani

>

> > ke andar zameen ki taiy mein dabayein, jahan jahan woh bartan paani

>

> ke andar chhupa rahey...... "

>

> >

>

> > Mahajan Sahib, yeh group soya nahi hai. shayad ap jaise badey bhai

>

> ki chhatar chhya ko paakar thoda nishchint aur be-fikar zarur ho gaya

>

> hai. Ab dekhiye, ap ne jhajhkor diya to bachey jaag padey na?

>

> >

>

> > Respectfully

>

> > Yograj Prabhakar

>

> >

>

> > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, mts3434 <mts3434@ > wrote:

>

> > mts3434 <mts3434@ >

>

> > Re: effects of sixth house saturn

>

> >

>

> > Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 9:56 AM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Livia ji,

>

> >

>

> > Namaskar

>

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Dear Astros

I am trying to learn and very novice in this field, my question is can a person still consume alcohol if Saturn and Jupiter both are in 4th house and retrograde?

Wont jupiter affect the liver because its retrograde?

How will the shanis mahadasha affect? and what will be the solution?

Many thanks

Arjun--- On Fri, 31/10/08, Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote:

Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar Re: effects of sixth house saturn Received: Friday, 31 October, 2008, 6:57 PM

Dear Iqbal jeeSorry for responding late. I think I was unable to make myself clearin my earlier post. I have not suggested taking liquor at night inSaturn in 6th house. I only said that in some cases (e.g. Sat in 4th)such material can be consumed as medicine. As far as avoiding going totemple is concerned, in this regard only planets posited in house no.2, 8 and 12 are considered and there is no mention of house no. 6 inLal Kitab. SincerelyYograj Prabhakar, "Iqbal Singh"<punjabilovebug@ ...> wrote:>> Respected Yograj Bhai,> > Just one clarification - Are you suggesting that liquor taken atnight with Saturn in 6th will be considered okay, as Saturn's mandihalat would only personify itself during daytime?> > Also - With an

empty second house with Saturn in 6th, wouldn't italso be prudent to avoid going to temples regularly considering thereverse drishti of Saturn?> > Thank you for your continued scholarly guidance.> > Best Regards,> Iqbal> > > > Sent via Blackberry > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@ ...>> > Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:39:31 > <>> Re: Re: effects of sixth house saturn> > > Very Respected Bhaskar Ji,> > First of all, I thank you on behalf of Astrostudents group forblessing us by joining our community. I hope that we shall all bebenefited by your presence.Following are the answers of your queries:> >

//1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes sincelast many years, //> > Ans : The period of Saturn is over, moreover the second term of35-year cycle has also started, Saturn should not give bad resultsnow. In my personal opinion, if you need to purchase such itemsespecially at the time when Saturn of 6th comes to 6th house duringVarshphal, you should also buy a toy (item of ketu) along with Shoes etc.> > //2) I have already crossed age of 42, about 6 years back. So nowpurchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?//> > Ans:Ã‚ Lal kitab has clearly said regarding that and I have alsomentioned it, so you should not be much worried much now.> > //3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, thenwhat must be done now, to make amends ?//> > Ans: The damage has already been done sir. You cant do anything

now.Ã‚ > > //4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during theday ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturnwill not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not becomeafflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowedmoderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)//> > Ans:Ã‚ Sir, it is not me, but Pundit Roop Chand Joshi ji has saidthat, and it can not be wrong. But by saying that Pundit ji hascertainly not indicated towards drinking or allowed it, he ratherindicated towards starting/doing the business related to Saturn.Moderate drinking can not be ruled out for Saturn in 4th house, but itshould be done only if a native faces health problems.> > Respectfully> Yograj Prabhakar> > > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@

....>> Re: effects of sixth house saturn> > Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 6:10 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > 1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since > > last many years, due to Saturn being in 6th house in my Natal chart. > > But of course when has to attend marriages and other such functions, > > one has to buy leather shoes, in that case what must be the proper > > course of action ? > > > > 2) I have already crossed age of 42 , about 6 years back. So now > > purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ? > > >

> 3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what > > must be done now, to make amends ?> > > > 4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the > > day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn > > will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become > > afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed > > moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > , Yograj Prabhakar > > <yr_prabhakar@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Mahajan Sahib> > > > > > I have never came across such notion of purchasing Second Hand > > materials for Shani

khana number 6, neither I found it anywhere > > mentioned in the Lal Kitab. I am not questioning your knowledge > > because purchasing an article of Ketu (Toys etc) while purchasing > > material of Saturn is also normally prescribe by the LK astrologers, > > so I believe that there may be some strong rationale behind > > this "Second Hand item" theory, since you are a seasoned Lal Kitabist > > having good amount of practical experience, you can explain it > > better..> > > > > > Here is my two cents in this ongoing discussion:> > > (1). Saturn in 6th has a reverse drishti on 2nd house.> > > (2). Saturn in this house depends upon the plcement/nature of Ketu > > in the horoscope.> > > (3). Saturns gives bad effects in this house only during the day.>

> > (4). If a native marries before the age of 28. it may affect Moon, > > ketu and Venus > > > badly.> > > (5). The native will never be childless normally. > > > (6). Normaly Ketu and Mercury will not be in Mandi Haalat> > > (7). After the age of 42 shani will be very bnefic for the native.> > > (8). Native should not purchase new leather shoes, machinery or > > construct house when Saturn of khana number 6 come to khana no. 6 > > during the varshphal, otherwise, the native may face problem from > > government/employer /court/police etc. > > > (9). Similarly, while Saturn or khana number 6 came to khana no. 6 > > during the varshphal the native may lost his shoes (particularly in a > > Dharam Sthan).. > > > (10). Feeding the snakes and

immersing Nariyal & Badam in running > > water are also recommended remedies mentioned in the Lal kitab.> > > > > > Regarding the remedy of burying sarson oil in a chhapar mentioned > > by you, I am reproducing the exact text from LK-1952 page no. 616:> > > > > > "Saneechar number 6 ki aam mandee haalat se bachney ya zehreeley > > asar ko rokney ke > > > liye sarson ke tel se bahara huya bartan (mitti ka) kisi talaab ya > > dariya ke paani > > > ke andar zameen ki taiy mein dabayein, jahan jahan woh bartan paani > > ke andar chhupa rahey......"> > > > > > Mahajan Sahib, yeh group soya nahi hai. shayad ap jaise badey bhai > > ki chhatar chhya ko paakar thoda nishchint aur be-fikar zarur ho gaya > > hai. Ab dekhiye, ap ne

jhajhkor diya to bachey jaag padey na?> > > > > > Respectfully> > > Yograj Prabhakar> > > > > > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, mts3434 <mts3434@ > wrote:> > > mts3434 <mts3434@ >> > > Re: effects of sixth house saturn> > > > > > Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 9:56 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Livia ji,> > > > > > Namaskar> > > > > > aapko shayad yeh jankar hairani hogi ki yeh group soya hua hai. yeh > > >

> > > group neend se kab jagega koi nahi janta.> > > > > > Shani khana no 6 mein ho to second hand item hee leni chahiye , > > > > > > nayee item wafa nahi karegi aisa mera vichar hai. kai baar to yeh > > > > > > dekhne mein aya hai ki aise jatak shadi bhee uss ladki se hogi > > jiska > > > > > > pehle rishta toot chuka ho ya shadi ho chuki ho (wife bhee second > > > > > > hand milegi)khaskar ke aise jatak ki behan (budh) ki shadi bhee uss > > > > > > ladke se hoti hai jo pehle se hee shadi shuda hoga> > > > > > (divorcee/widower) . nayee juti(chamra/ leather yeh belt ya purse > > bhee > > > > > > ho sakta hai ) lene se usko jutiyan padne ka

darr hai matlab ki > > kaam > > > > > > thap, police ka jhagra.AISA JATAK AGAR KABARI KA KAAM KARE TO > > > > > > KAMYAB HO SAKTA HAI. upay:-chamra daan kare , sarson oil ko chhapar > > > > > > mein dabana detail mein shani khan no 6 ke upay dekhe.> > > > > > > > > > > > Mahajan> > > > > > > > > > > > DIWALI KI SABKO MUBARIK HO > > > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN> > > > > > , "livia tandon" > > > > > > <liviatandon@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi

friends,> > > > > > > Its been long when anyone of us has put up any topic to > > > > > > discuss.So,just to> > > > > > > break the monotony let me put up something.Well, i want to know > > or > > > > > > even> > > > > > > discuss the effects of saturn in sixth house,which is indeed > > > > > > considered> > > > > > > malefic.Moreover person with saturn in sixth is asked to buy > > > > > > second hand> > > > > > > things related to saturn,which actually is not possible every > > time > > > > > > as> > > > > > > footwear is also related to

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November 4, 2008

Members,

Kalsi sahib ne jo kuchh bhee likha hai woh bilkul sahi hai. mein hamesha shani khana 4 wale shaksh ko homeopathy medicine lene ko hee kehta hoon. Meine kabhi bhee kisi yeh nahi kaha ki sharab liya karo.

shani khana no 6 wale shaksh ke liye ek aur parhez bhee hai jis baare mein kisi ne kuchh nahi kaha, woh yeh ki aisa shaksh jiska shani khana no 6 mein ho woh apni bhatiji ki shadi na kare.

Yahan par bhatiji ka kya matlab hai, usko bhee samajh lein to behtar hoga.

Aksar lal kitab ke mahir (Dalda wale ) yeh bhul jate hain ki yahan par bhatiji ka matlab sirf bade bhai ki beti se hai (shani khana no 6 wala shaksh apni bhatiji ka chacha lagega)agar aisa shaksh ,chacha bhatiji ki shadi karega to shani usko bura phal dega. apne se chhote bhai ki beti ki shadi woh chahe jitni marzi dhoomdham se kare shani khana no 6 usko kuchh nahi kahega (bura phal nahi dega)

MAHAJAN

, "Shivdev Kalsi" <shivdev.kalsi wrote:>> Dear Arjun,> > No planetary placement promote taking liquor. Overtaking of any thing is> damaging. Even if you eat the food more than the required it will damage> your body system.> > There is no special provision of retrograde planets in Lalkitab. In fact the> planet never go retrograde. It appears us to be in retrogradation. As per> vedic astrology concepts , planeted in retrograde is not much harmful,> rather the period chande of direction from direct to retrogradation and vice> versa when the planet appears to be at one position for some period, is more> powerful. You know that a person in move have less accurate in targetting> rather that a person at standstill position. Thus as per vedic concept.that> period is more powerful and planet will give results more powerfully in> right or wrong direction as per their nature.> > Now coming back to alchohal. It is a saturn object. Saturn + Jupiter forms a> good combination called Dharmi Teva. This type of person can have habit of> liquar depanding upon the nature of saturn. In 4th house Alchohal can be> taken as medicine and is more effective. rather I can say that person having> saturn in 4th go for homoeopathy medicine which usually have a alchohal> base.> > Regarding lever, It is an item of Mars. In 4th house the mars is considered> as Mangal bad. Neecha. Lever can be damaged if mars is suffering from Rahus> drishti or Mercury conjuction. Person havinf this type of placement can> avoid drinking to save Lever.> > mahadasha have the seperate entity in lalkitab and have seperate rules.> Vedic Dasha system is not applicable in Lalkitab> > Regards> > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Arjun Vaishnav hdincp wrote:> > > Dear Astros> >> > I am trying to learn and very novice in this field, my question is can a> > person still consume alcohol if Saturn and Jupiter both are in 4th house and> > retrograde?> >> > Wont jupiter affect the liver because its retrograde?> > How will the shanis mahadasha affect? and what will be the solution?> >> > Many thanks> > Arjun> >> >> > --- On *Fri, 31/10/08, Yograj Prabhakar yr_prabhakar* wrote:> >> > Yograj Prabhakar yr_prabhakar > Re: effects of sixth house saturn> > > > Received: Friday, 31 October, 2008, 6:57 PM> >> > Dear Iqbal jee> >> > Sorry for responding late. I think I was unable to make myself clear> > in my earlier post. I have not suggested taking liquor at night in> > Saturn in 6th house. I only said that in some cases (e.g. Sat in 4th)> > such material can be consumed as medicine. As far as avoiding going to> > temple is concerned, in this regard only planets posited in house no.> > 2, 8 and 12 are considered and there is no mention of house no. 6 in> > Lal Kitab.> >> > Sincerely> > Yograj Prabhakar> >> > <%40>,> > "Iqbal Singh"> > <punjabilovebug@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Yograj Bhai,> > >> > > Just one clarification - Are you suggesting that liquor taken at> > night with Saturn in 6th will be considered okay, as Saturn's mandi> > halat would only personify itself during daytime?> > >> > > Also - With an empty second house with Saturn in 6th, wouldn't it> > also be prudent to avoid going to temples regularly considering the> > reverse drishti of Saturn?> > >> > > Thank you for your continued scholarly guidance.> > >> > > Best Regards,> > > Iqbal> > >> > >> > >> > > Sent via Blackberry> > >> > > > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@ ...>> > >> > > Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:39:31> > > < <%40>>> > > Re: Re: effects of sixth house saturn> > >> > >> > > Very Respected Bhaskar Ji,> > >> > > First of all, I thank you on behalf of Astrostudents group for> > blessing us by joining our community. I hope that we shall all be> > benefited by your presence.Following are the answers of your queries:> > >> > > //1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since> > last many years, //> > >> > > Ans : The period of Saturn is over, moreover the second term of> > 35-year cycle has also started, Saturn should not give bad results> > now. In my personal opinion, if you need to purchase such items> > especially at the time when Saturn of 6th comes to 6th house during> > Varshphal, you should also buy a toy (item of ketu) along with Shoes etc.> > >> > > //2) I have already crossed age of 42, about 6 years back. So now> > purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?//> > >> > > Ans:Ã‚ Lal kitab has clearly said regarding that and I have also> > mentioned it, so you should not be much worried much now.> > >> > > //3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then> > what must be done now, to make amends ?//> > >> > > Ans: The damage has already been done sir. You cant do anything now.Ã‚> > >> > > //4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the> > day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn> > will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become> > afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed> > moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)//> > >> > > Ans:Ã‚ Sir, it is not me, but Pundit Roop Chand Joshi ji has said> > that, and it can not be wrong. But by saying that Pundit ji has> > certainly not indicated towards drinking or allowed it, he rather> > indicated towards starting/doing the business related to Saturn.> > Moderate drinking can not be ruled out for Saturn in 4th house, but it> > should be done only if a native faces health problems.> > >> > > Respectfully> > > Yograj Prabhakar> > >> > >> > > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:> > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...>> > > Re: effects of sixth house saturn> > > <%40>> > > Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 6:10 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Sir,> > >> > >> > >> > > 1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since> > >> > > last many years, due to Saturn being in 6th house in my Natal chart.> > >> > > But of course when has to attend marriages and other such functions,> > >> > > one has to buy leather shoes, in that case what must be the proper> > >> > > course of action ?> > >> > >> > >> > > 2) I have already crossed age of 42 , about 6 years back. So now> > >> > > purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?> > >> > >> > >> > > 3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what> > >> > > must be done now, to make amends ?> > >> > >> > >> > > 4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the> > >> > > day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn> > >> > > will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become> > >> > > afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed> > >> > > moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)> > >> > >> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > > , Yograj Prabhakar> > >> > > <yr_prabhakar@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Respected Mahajan Sahib> > >> > > >> > >> > > > I have never came across such notion of purchasing Second Hand> > >> > > materials for Shani khana number 6, neither I found it anywhere> > >> > > mentioned in the Lal Kitab. I am not questioning your knowledge> > >> > > because purchasing an article of Ketu (Toys etc) while purchasing> > >> > > material of Saturn is also normally prescribe by the LK astrologers,> > >> > > so I believe that there may be some strong rationale behind> > >> > > this "Second Hand item" theory, since you are a seasoned Lal Kitabist> > >> > > having good amount of practical experience, you can explain it> > >> > > better..> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Here is my two cents in this ongoing discussion:> > >> > > > (1). Saturn in 6th has a reverse drishti on 2nd house.> > >> > > > (2). Saturn in this house depends upon the plcement/nature of Ketu> > >> > > in the horoscope.> > >> > > > (3). Saturns gives bad effects in this house only during the day.> > >> > > > (4). If a native marries before the age of 28. it may affect Moon,> > >> > > ketu and Venus> > >> > > > badly.> > >> > > > (5). The native will never be childless normally.> > >> > > > (6). Normaly Ketu and Mercury will not be in Mandi Haalat> > >> > > > (7). After the age of 42 shani will be very bnefic for the native.> > >> > > > (8). Native should not purchase new leather shoes, machinery or> > >> > > construct house when Saturn of khana number 6 come to khana no. 6> > >> > > during the varshphal, otherwise, the native may face problem from> > >> > > government/employer /court/police etc.> > >> > > > (9). Similarly, while Saturn or khana number 6 came to khana no. 6> > >> > > during the varshphal the native may lost his shoes (particularly in a> > >> > > Dharam Sthan)..> > >> > > > (10). Feeding the snakes and immersing Nariyal & Badam in running> > >> > > water are also recommended remedies mentioned in the Lal kitab.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Regarding the remedy of burying sarson oil in a chhapar mentioned> > >> > > by you, I am reproducing the exact text from LK-1952 page no. 616:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > "Saneechar number 6 ki aam mandee haalat se bachney ya zehreeley> > >> > > asar ko rokney ke> > >> > > > liye sarson ke tel se bahara huya bartan (mitti ka) kisi talaab ya> > >> > > dariya ke paani> > >> > > > ke andar zameen ki taiy mein dabayein, jahan jahan woh bartan paani> > >> > > ke andar chhupa rahey......"> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Mahajan Sahib, yeh group soya nahi hai. shayad ap jaise badey bhai> > >> > > ki chhatar chhya ko paakar thoda nishchint aur be-fikar zarur ho gaya> > >> > > hai. Ab dekhiye, ap ne jhajhkor diya to bachey jaag padey na?> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Respectfully> > >> > > > Yograj Prabhakar> > >> > > >> > >> > > > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, mts3434 <mts3434@ > wrote:> > >> > > > mts3434 <mts3434@ >> > >> > > > Re: effects of sixth house saturn> > >> > > > > > >> > > > Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 9:56 AM> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Livia ji,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Namaskar> > >> > > >> > >> > > > aapko shayad yeh jankar hairani hogi ki yeh group soya hua hai. yeh> > >> > > >> > >> > > > group neend se kab jagega koi nahi janta.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Shani khana no 6 mein ho to second hand item hee leni chahiye ,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > nayee item wafa nahi karegi aisa mera vichar hai. kai baar to yeh> > >> > > >> > >> > > > dekhne mein aya hai ki aise jatak shadi bhee uss ladki se hogi> > >> > > jiska> > >> > > >> > >> > > > pehle rishta toot chuka ho ya shadi ho chuki ho (wife bhee second> > >> > > >> > >> > > > hand milegi)khaskar ke aise jatak ki behan (budh) ki shadi bhee uss> > >> > > >> > >> > > > ladke se hoti hai jo pehle se hee shadi shuda hoga> > >> > > >> > >> > > > (divorcee/widower) . nayee juti(chamra/ leather yeh belt ya purse> > >> > > bhee> > >> > > >> > >> > > > ho sakta hai ) lene se usko jutiyan padne ka darr hai matlab ki> > >> > > kaam> > >> > > >> > >> > > > thap, police ka jhagra.AISA JATAK AGAR KABARI KA KAAM KARE TO> > >> > > >> > >> > > > KAMYAB HO SAKTA HAI. upay:-chamra daan kare , sarson oil ko chhapar> > >> > > >> > >> > > > mein dabana detail mein shani khan no 6 ke upay dekhe.> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Mahajan> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > DIWALI KI SABKO MUBARIK HO> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > MAHAJAN> > >> > > >> > >> > > > , "livia tandon"> > >> > > >> > >> > > > <liviatandon@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Hi friends,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Its been long when anyone of us has put up any topic to> > >> > > >> > >> > > > discuss.So,just to> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > break the monotony let me put up something.Well, i want to know> > >> > > or> > >> > > >> > >> > > > even> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > discuss the effects of saturn in sixth house,which is indeed> > >> > > >> > >> > > > considered> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > malefic.Moreover person with saturn in sixth is asked to buy> > >> > > >> > >> > > > second hand> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > things related to saturn,which actually is not possible every> > >> > > time> > >> > > >> > >> > > > as> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > footwear is also related to saturn and one can't go for second> > >> > > hand> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > footwear.So, i want all my fellow friends to put some light on> > >> > > >> > >> > > > this topic.> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Regards,> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > Livia> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! 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Thanks for your guidance Yograj Bhai -Best Regards,Iqbal USASent via Blackberry "Yograj Prabhakar" <yr_prabhakarFri, 31 Oct 2008 07:57:12 -0000 Re: effects of sixth house saturn Dear Iqbal jee Sorry for responding late. I think I was unable to make myself clear in my earlier post. I have not suggested taking liquor at night in Saturn in 6th house. I only said that in some cases (e.g. Sat in 4th) such material can be consumed as medicine. As far as avoiding going to temple is concerned, in this regard only planets posited in house no. 2, 8 and 12 are considered and there is no mention of house no. 6 in Lal Kitab. Sincerely Yograj Prabhakar , " Iqbal Singh " <punjabilovebug wrote: > > Respected Yograj Bhai, > > Just one clarification - Are you suggesting that liquor taken at night with Saturn in 6th will be considered okay, as Saturn's mandi halat would only personify itself during daytime? > > Also - With an empty second house with Saturn in 6th, wouldn't it also be prudent to avoid going to temples regularly considering the reverse drishti of Saturn? > > Thank you for your continued scholarly guidance. > > Best Regards, > Iqbal > > > > Sent via Blackberry > > > Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar > > Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:39:31 > > Re: Re: effects of sixth house saturn > > > Very Respected Bhaskar Ji, > > First of all, I thank you on behalf of Astrostudents group for blessing us by joining our community. I hope that we shall all be benefited by your presence.Following are the answers of your queries: > > //1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since last many years, // > > Ans : The period of Saturn is over, moreover the second term of 35-year cycle has also started, Saturn should not give bad results now. In my personal opinion, if you need to purchase such items especially at the time when Saturn of 6th comes to 6th house during Varshphal, you should also buy a toy (item of ketu) along with Shoes etc. > > //2) I have already crossed age of 42, about 6 years back. So now purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ?// > > Ans:Ã‚Â Lal kitab has clearly said regarding that and I have also mentioned it, so you should not be much worried much now. > > //3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what must be done now, to make amends ?// > > Ans: The damage has already been done sir. You cant do anything now.Ã‚Â > > //4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?)// > > Ans:Ã‚Â Sir, it is not me, but Pundit Roop Chand Joshi ji has said that, and it can not be wrong. But by saying that Pundit ji has certainly not indicated towards drinking or allowed it, he rather indicated towards starting/doing the business related to Saturn. Moderate drinking can not be ruled out for Saturn in 4th house, but it should be done only if a native faces health problems. > > Respectfully > Yograj Prabhakar > > > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises > Re: effects of sixth house saturn > > Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 6:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > 1) I have been purchasing canvas shoes and not leather shoes since > > last many years, due to Saturn being in 6th house in my Natal chart. > > But of course when has to attend marriages and other such functions, > > one has to buy leather shoes, in that case what must be the proper > > course of action ? > > > > 2) I have already crossed age of 42 , about 6 years back. So now > > purchasing new items of Shani on Saturday will not harm me ? > > > > 3) Suppose a native has already married before age of 28, then what > > must be done now, to make amends ? > > > > 4) You said saturn gives bad effects in this house only during the > > day ? Then does it mean that if he drinks alcohol at night, Saturn > > will not become afflicted, and in turn Jupiter will not become > > afflicted ? ( I think for those with Saturn in 4th, they are allowed > > moderate drinking- Or am i wrong ?) > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , Yograj Prabhakar > > <yr_prabhakar@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Mahajan Sahib > > > > > > I have never came across such notion of purchasing Second Hand > > materials for Shani khana number 6, neither I found it anywhere > > mentioned in the Lal Kitab. I am not questioning your knowledge > > because purchasing an article of Ketu (Toys etc) while purchasing > > material of Saturn is also normally prescribe by the LK astrologers, > > so I believe that there may be some strong rationale behind > > this " Second Hand item " theory, since you are a seasoned Lal Kitabist > > having good amount of practical experience, you can explain it > > better.. > > > > > > Here is my two cents in this ongoing discussion: > > > (1). Saturn in 6th has a reverse drishti on 2nd house. > > > (2). Saturn in this house depends upon the plcement/nature of Ketu > > in the horoscope. > > > (3). Saturns gives bad effects in this house only during the day. > > > (4). If a native marries before the age of 28. it may affect Moon, > > ketu and Venus > > > badly. > > > (5). The native will never be childless normally. > > > (6). Normaly Ketu and Mercury will not be in Mandi Haalat > > > (7). After the age of 42 shani will be very bnefic for the native. > > > (8). Native should not purchase new leather shoes, machinery or > > construct house when Saturn of khana number 6 come to khana no. 6 > > during the varshphal, otherwise, the native may face problem from > > government/employer /court/police etc. > > > (9). Similarly, while Saturn or khana number 6 came to khana no. 6 > > during the varshphal the native may lost his shoes (particularly in a > > Dharam Sthan).. > > > (10). Feeding the snakes and immersing Nariyal & Badam in running > > water are also recommended remedies mentioned in the Lal kitab. > > > > > > Regarding the remedy of burying sarson oil in a chhapar mentioned > > by you, I am reproducing the exact text from LK-1952 page no. 616: > > > > > > " Saneechar number 6 ki aam mandee haalat se bachney ya zehreeley > > asar ko rokney ke > > > liye sarson ke tel se bahara huya bartan (mitti ka) kisi talaab ya > > dariya ke paani > > > ke andar zameen ki taiy mein dabayein, jahan jahan woh bartan paani > > ke andar chhupa rahey...... " > > > > > > Mahajan Sahib, yeh group soya nahi hai. shayad ap jaise badey bhai > > ki chhatar chhya ko paakar thoda nishchint aur be-fikar zarur ho gaya > > hai. Ab dekhiye, ap ne jhajhkor diya to bachey jaag padey na? > > > > > > Respectfully > > > Yograj Prabhakar > > > > > > --- On Thu, 23/10/08, mts3434 <mts3434@ > wrote: > > > mts3434 <mts3434@ > > > > Re: effects of sixth house saturn > > > > > > Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 9:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Livia ji, > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > aapko shayad yeh jankar hairani hogi ki yeh group soya hua hai. yeh > > > > > > group neend se kab jagega koi nahi janta. > > > > > > Shani khana no 6 mein ho to second hand item hee leni chahiye , > > > > > > nayee item wafa nahi karegi aisa mera vichar hai. kai baar to yeh > > > > > > dekhne mein aya hai ki aise jatak shadi bhee uss ladki se hogi > > jiska > > > > > > pehle rishta toot chuka ho ya shadi ho chuki ho (wife bhee second > > > > > > hand milegi)khaskar ke aise jatak ki behan (budh) ki shadi bhee uss > > > > > > ladke se hoti hai jo pehle se hee shadi shuda hoga > > > > > > (divorcee/widower) . nayee juti(chamra/ leather yeh belt ya purse > > bhee > > > > > > ho sakta hai ) lene se usko jutiyan padne ka darr hai matlab ki > > kaam > > > > > > thap, police ka jhagra.AISA JATAK AGAR KABARI KA KAAM KARE TO > > > > > > KAMYAB HO SAKTA HAI. upay:-chamra daan kare , sarson oil ko chhapar > > > > > > mein dabana detail mein shani khan no 6 ke upay dekhe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mahajan > > > > > > > > > > > > DIWALI KI SABKO MUBARIK HO > > > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > , " livia tandon " > > > > > > <liviatandon@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi friends, > > > > > > > Its been long when anyone of us has put up any topic to > > > > > > discuss.So,just to > > > > > > > break the monotony let me put up something.Well, i want to know > > or > > > > > > even > > > > > > > discuss the effects of saturn in sixth house,which is indeed > > > > > > considered > > > > > > > malefic.Moreover person with saturn in sixth is asked to buy > > > > > > second hand > > > > > > > things related to saturn,which actually is not possible every > > time > > > > > > as > > > > > > > footwear is also related to saturn and one can't go for second > > hand > > > > > > > footwear.So, i want all my fellow friends to put some light on > > > > > > this topic. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Livia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be the first one to try the new Messenger 9 Beta! 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