BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2/Prabhakar Ji, Kondal Ji,

August 13, 2008

Members,

Namaskar,

shukar hai bhagwan ka ki kuchh members ki neend to khuli, kisi

vishay par hulchal to huee.mein apna experince share karna chahta

hoon ki jab bhee varshphal mein budh khana no 2 mein aye, to usse

kya nahi karna chahiye. jis saal budh khana no 2 mein aaye uss saal

jatak ko musical instruments nahi lene chahiye. mere paas agar koi

aisa shaksh jiska budh khana no 2 mein aya hoo(varshphal ke anusar)

to uss saal mein usko saali se bhee dur rehne ko kehta hoon,

T.V.,C.D. player,Stereo,Baja vagairah ka kum se kum prayog kare aur

naya/purana na le. jab ki yeh zyadatar electronics goods hee hain.

fir bhee inka parhez rakhna hee achha rahega.aisa mera manana hai.

MAhajan

, maneshwar singh kondal

<mskondal wrote:

>

DATED 13-8-2008

>

> dear members,

> pranaam to all of my seniors

and hello to colleagues,hope all r fine and enjoing .i read

yograjjis reply to vivian regarding the piercing of nosefor 96 hours

and i fully agree with yograjji on this topic that in the book it is

mentioned only the same thing which yograjji has written .till date

i have never read any where and in any of version that one should

not go out or u have to hide it from others or one have to be away

from sun light suraj to budh ko theek rakhnae mein madad deta hai or

chandarma ka bhi dost hai so dont be mistaken on this part that u

have to stuck into house only after naak chaddan .u r free to move

about humne aaj tak kaafi logon ka naak chaddan karvaya hai and got

good results 100% u can say but never restricted anybody like this.

> thats the only and only reason why we all are insisting everybody

to try to read the original version of lal kitab so please for god

sake try to read the original versions only .and your first step to

have success in the field of lal kitab is to procure a original copy

of it and get it translated or do what ever u can do to reach for it

understand it and translate it.dont try to get pakki pakayi

things .this thing will harm you in the field of learning lal

kitab.try to find new things out of it yourself it has got

thousands of such formulaes and permutations and combinations that

the need is only to unveil them.but most of the people dont use

their own brains and try to grab things either by hook or crook.try

to go more deep and deep into the book and u ur self will find the

difference.ORIGINAL LAL KITAB IN ITSELF IS A LAMPHOUSE AND POWER

GENERATOR THAT MERELY BY KEEPING IT WITH YOURSELF YOU FEEL YOURSELF

FULLY ENERGISED.

>

> SO I HOPE NOW EVERYBODY WOULD TRY TO GO FOR A GENUINE BOOK AND

FELL THE ENERGY ITS A FACT YOU TRY IT AND TELL IN THE FORM THE

DIFFERENCE.

>

> THANKS

>

> REGARDS

>

> M S KONDAL

>

> <span style= " font-weight:bold;color:rgb(128, 0, 0); " >M S

KONDAL</span>

>

> Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar

>

> Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:19:46 AM

> Re: Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2/Vivian Jee

>

> Dear Vivian ji,

>

> I am partially agree with you on the question of period and method

of Naak-Chhedan. You are absolutely right that Pundit ji has advised

to do it for atleast 96 hours. and It is very much mentioned in Lal

Kitab-1952, page 545, line 11 to 13, (Budh Khana no. 2 Mandee

Haalat):

>

> " Naak-Chhedan (4-5 din tak kam az kam 96 ghantey Surakh qayam

rakhna) magadgaar hoga. 12 se 16 saala se pehle pehle zyadah

faydemand magar baad mein bhi naak-chhedan madadgar hoga). " .

>

> But your statement that one should remain indoor, nobody should

see the Naak-Chhedan and it should not be exposed to the direct

Sunlight is just beyond my understanding. What are the basis of this

notion? Have you read it somewhere or was it recommended/ told by

someone to you? Kindly clarify.

>

> Sincerely

> Yograj Prabhakar

>

> --- On Wed, 8/13/08, mts3434 <mts3434 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

>

> mts3434 <mts3434 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2

>

> Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 10:22 AM

>

> Vivian Ji,

> Namaskar,

> sorry, mein kuchh kadwa bol gaya tha.

>

> Hua kuchh iss tarah ki jo mein kehna chahta thaa woh prabhakar

sahib

> ne keh diya hai, sirf kehne/samjhane ka tarika alag ho gaya. mein

> kuchh kadwe tarike se keh gaya woh pyar se samjha gaye.aap kyonki

> bahut aage ki soch rahe theiy, wahan tak ki mein to soch hi nahi

> sakta.agar mein prabhakar ji ne jo kuchh likha thaa woh padh leta

to

> shayad mein apko itna kadwa nahi likhta. again & again SORRY.

> abb itna dhayan rakhiye ki Budh khana no 2 wale ko budh ki ashiyan

> sthapit nahi karni chahiye.

>

> because naak chhedan

> > karvalenna hi upay nahi hai but naak chhedan karwaake ye b dhyan

> > main rakha jaye ki it is not visible to anybody so the person

shud

> > stay indoor or closed door and away from everybody sight for

> minimum

> > 96 hrs.....

> Kripya yeh bataye ki 96 hours ka upay jaisa ki aapne likha hai yeh

> kahan likha hai.kyonki zyadatar jab bhee Budh manda asar de raha

ho

> Nak Chhedan karwaya hi jata hai(96 days) lekin agar kahin yeh

likha

> hai ki 96 hours ghar mein hi rahe ya kisi ko nak chhedan dikhai na

> de, sun light na lage aadi aadi.

> Dhanyawad.

> Mahajan

>

> , vivian tandon

> <viviantandon@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Mahajan ji, Namashkar !!!

> > I am just a beginner in lal Kitab and a nursery class student in

> front of u lekin fir bhi aap kripa karÂ Lal Kitab(1952) Ka Page

> Number 543(budh2 nek haalat) zaroor padiyega its clearly mentioned-

--

> ------''Lambi va poshda aur baahar ko ubhri hui peshaani ka maalik

> hogga.jismain jahanat tatha saath aayiÂ hui kismat ka nek asar

> hogga....... ......... ......... ......... '' Please sir do

correct me

> if i m wrong.....

> > Â

> > thanx------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --

----

> -------vivian

> >

> > --- On Tue, 12/8/08, mts3434 <mts3434@ > wrote:

> >

> > mts3434 <mts3434@ >

> > Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2

> >

> > Tuesday, 12 August, 2008, 12:48 PM

> >

> > Vivian Ji,

> > mein abhi itna vidhwan nahi hua ki matha(forehead) dekh kar bata

> saku

> > ki budh khana no 2 mein hai.Aapke baare mein mein kuchh keh nahi

> > sakta.

> > Mahajan

> > , vivian tandon

> > <viviantandon@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Mahajan ji first of all i m highly thankful to u to start the

> > topic again and kept this group alive......well about budh

number

> 2

> > wot i percieve is dat; aise insaan ka father ki age ki koi

> guarantee

> > ni hotti but tab tak jab tak chander se koi madad na mil rahi ho

> if

> > moon of such a person is in 8th or twelfth house father of such

a

> > person may survive.Moreover tewe ki darushti ke liye kuchh

> questions

> > we can ask like aise insaan ki mastishk(head) ubhraa hua

> (protruding)

> > hotta hai........and such a person is very intelligent but at

the

> > same timeÃ‚Â somewhat selfish also.

> > > Budh ki cheeze sister,bua,daughter etc.r notÃ‚Â gud for the

> person

> > and they give the result to that of a poison.....mande budh ki

> pehli

> > nishaaniÃ‚Â ghar main sheep, parrot kharidke ya vaise hi lekke

> rakha

> > jaye ya fir aise saksh ki saali ghar main aake rehne lag jaye

tto

> wo

> > uskki wife ko (shukar) ko barbaad kardeggi.... .ghar main shukar

> ki

> > cheeze barbaad honne lag jaengi... mande budh ke nivaaran ka

best

> > upay i think is naak chhedan( nose prick),this remedy looks to

be

> > very simple but its actually very tough. because naak chhedan

> > karvalenna hi upay nahi hai but naak chhedan karwaake ye b dhyan

> > main rakha jaye ki it is not visible to anybody so the person

shud

> > stay indoor or closed door and away from everybody sight for

> minimum

> > 96 hrs.......This is some thing i know for budh number 2 kuchh

> > baatein tto mahajan ji ne pehle hi saaf kardi hain.....kuchh par

> > hamaare senior members ki roshni ki bi zarurat

> > hai......... ......... kiyunki we r just students in this field

> > > and many things i have written may be wrong....... ........so

> > corrections are solicited from our senior

members..... .parbhakar

> ji

> > please throw some more light on this

> > topic....... ......... ......... VIVIAN...

> > > Ã‚Â

> > >

> > > --- On Mon, 11/8/08, mts3434 <mts3434@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > mts3434 <mts3434@ >

> > > BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2

> > >

> > > Monday, 11 August, 2008, 11:24 AM

> > >

> > > Members

> > > aap sab ko yeh jankar harani hog1 ki 1975-76 ke karib jab

> lalkitab

> > > market mein ayee(hindi photostat) tab jitne bhee log jo

jyotish

> ki

> > > jankari rakhte theiy, unn logo ne budh khana no 2 walo ke ghar

> se

> > > niwar ke goley niklwa diye. tab aam gharo mein niwar hoti

thee.

> > abb

> > > niwar nahi hai to yeh jyotish log kya karein.abb wool ke goley

> > > niklwa rahe hain.budh khana no 2 wale ke liye achha yehi hai

ki

> > ghar

> > > mein kisi bhee kisam ka suti (cotton) dhaga gole ki shakal

mein

> na

> > > pada ho.

> > > jaise khana no 1 ke liye daant 32 chahiye yahan bhee wohi

halat

> > hai

> > > (vaise har khana mein budh ka achha phal tabi milega jab daant

> 32

> > ho)

> > > Agar brahspati khana no 6ya7 mein ho to aisa jatak pita

(father)

> > ke

> > > liye bhari hoga, matlab ki uske pita ki maut ya mritu tulya

> kashat

> > > jab budh khana no 2 wale ki umar 16 se 22 ki hogi. zyadatar

aise

> > > jatak ke pita ki maut 16 se 19 saal ke beech hi ho jati hai

agar

> > > bach jaye to bhee bimar ya murda ke brabar hi hoga.

> > > Aise jatak ke ladkiya zyada hogi,lekin lawald nahi hoga matlab

> ki

> > > ladka avash hoga . ladke ke liye brahspati aur chander ki

> sahayta

> > > lee ja sakti hai.

> > > Budh asal mein kya hai? brahspati+rahu= BUDH

> > > abb aap rahu khana no 2 ka upay Chandi ki thos (solid)goli

jatak

> > > apne paas rakh sakte hain.

> > > aur bhee bahut kuchh kiya ja sakta filhal itna hi kafi hai,

agar

> > aap

> > > ke paas Budh khana no 2 ke baare mein kuchh alag hi jankari

hai

> ti

> > > likhe.

> > >

> > > MAHAJAN

> > >

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August 13, 2008

Revered Senior Member and Dear All Fellow Students,

Namashkar!!!

I really apologise if I had mentioned something wrong for Naak Chhedan Remedy....Even I had read it in the book for 96 hrs as mentioned by Shri MS Kondal ji and Sh. Parbhakar ji; but the lines that I had added after that remedy is not mentioned in the book anywhere. Lekin ye lines Aadarniye Shri Neel Kanth Deedi Ji ke batayi hui guidelines for how to do this upay ke according hain...................