Garvan is correct, please confirm

[Guest guest]

Nirmal ji lets remove if any doubt is there regarding gardan and

garvan. page 117 line of gutka is GAR VAN KUAN NA HO....; LINE2 PAGE

107 HAS TAH HI KACHI GAR VAN HO. please chech agar dono jagah gar van

ki banawat ek jaisi hai to yeh confirm ho jata hai ki correct word in

line 2 of page 107 is gar van and gardan is not correct it has to be

gar van, meaning existing at that place. please confirm. is lafz (line

2 page 107) par jo gard hai use hamesha ke liye saaf kar dete hain.

sincerely

kulbirbance

[Guest guest]

Dear Kulbir jee,

 

I told you once (and you too mentioned the same in one of your mail)

that it will take years to understand " WHAT " actually is written in

the Lal Kitab, and " WHY " it is written - will take ages to find out.

remember?

 

Anyways, no matter how others are interperating, for me the word is

" GAR VAAN " (Agar vahaan-if there). I must tell you that Pundit jee has

used these words " GAR " (for Agar) and " VAAN " (for Wahaan) and " GAR

VAAN " (Agar Wahan) more than 20 times in LK-1941 alone.

 

Vakil Sahib, you are a wise, intelligent and the most talented Lal

Kitab student around. So I leave the elucidation of GAR VAAN (or GAR

DAAN according to some of our leaned friends) on your discretion.

 

 

Gid bless you always

Yograj Prabhakar

 

 

, " kulbir bance " <kulbirbance

wrote:

>

> Nirmal ji lets remove if any doubt is there regarding gardan and

> garvan. page 117 line of gutka is GAR VAN KUAN NA HO....; LINE2 PAGE

> 107 HAS TAH HI KACHI GAR VAN HO. please chech agar dono jagah gar van

> ki banawat ek jaisi hai to yeh confirm ho jata hai ki correct word in

> line 2 of page 107 is gar van and gardan is not correct it has to be

> gar van, meaning existing at that place. please confirm. is lafz (line

> 2 page 107) par jo gard hai use hamesha ke liye saaf kar dete hain.

> sincerely

> kulbirbance

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kulbir Ji,

Let start line by line and word by word:

Line 2 Page 110:

Deewar Kacchi

Nothing to explain . it is self explanatory. A Kachhi Deewar Made of

Bricks

Mitti Kachhi

Presence of Kachhi Mitti may be in any shape

Tai(Teh) hi kachhi

here comes the confusion amongst many. before going further let us

try to solve the created puzzle - Difference between Kachhi Mitti &

Tai(teh).

Mitti kachhi- it is a clayee soil which normally in villages people

bring at home from shamlaat land or dry pond . Make mud at home to

plaster the mud wall or even used to create small place to grow small

plants like tulsi, flowers etc.

Tai(teh)-makaan kaa Jo plot hota hai usay ham makaan ki tai zameen

boltey hai. Now when we make the house, any unconstructed land

remianed outside the constructed area but within the boundary wall of

the house is called remaining Teh zamin. Pandit ji had stated this

land in these lines.

gar vaan ho - If it is there

Let us combine the above

If Kachhi deewar or Kachhi mitti or Teh hee Kacchi(remaining land

between boundary wall and house and should not be made pakka by

laying flooring or bricks) happens to be there then .......

in the greater context we have to qayam the shukkar at the direction

of khana 10. in case of Shukkar 10.

I have tried to explain the meaning of these lines as far as my

knowledge is concerned.

It is open to all what they consider for these lines.

Regards

Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

, " kulbir

bance " <kulbirbance wrote:

>

> Nirmal ji lets remove if any doubt is there regarding gardan and

> garvan. page 117 line of gutka is GAR VAN KUAN NA HO....; LINE2 PAGE

> 107 HAS TAH HI KACHI GAR VAN HO. please chech agar dono jagah gar

van

> ki banawat ek jaisi hai to yeh confirm ho jata hai ki correct word

in

> line 2 of page 107 is gar van and gardan is not correct it has to be

> gar van, meaning existing at that place. please confirm. is lafz

(line

> 2 page 107) par jo gard hai use hamesha ke liye saaf kar dete hain.

> sincerely

> kulbirbance

>

[Guest guest]

agreed absolutely Sir, this is the correct most explanation and application

thanks for taking time out of ur busy schedule.

kulbirbance

On 3/14/08, Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kulbir Ji,Let start line by line and word by word:Line 2 Page 110:Deewar KacchiNothing to explain . it is self explanatory. A Kachhi Deewar Made of Bricks Mitti KachhiPresence of Kachhi Mitti may be in any shape

Tai(Teh) hi kachhi here comes the confusion amongst many. before going further let us try to solve the created puzzle - Difference between Kachhi Mitti & Tai(teh).Mitti kachhi- it is a clayee soil which normally in villages people

bring at home from shamlaat land or dry pond . Make mud at home to plaster the mud wall or even used to create small place to grow small plants like tulsi, flowers etc. Tai(teh)-makaan kaa Jo plot hota hai usay ham makaan ki tai zameen

boltey hai. Now when we make the house, any unconstructed land remianed outside the constructed area but within the boundary wall of the house is called remaining Teh zamin. Pandit ji had stated this land in these lines.

gar vaan ho - If it is thereLet us combine the aboveIf Kachhi deewar or Kachhi mitti or Teh hee Kacchi(remaining land between boundary wall and house and should not be made pakka by laying flooring or bricks) happens to be there then .......

in the greater context we have to qayam the shukkar at the direction of khana 10. in case of Shukkar 10.I have tried to explain the meaning of these lines as far as my knowledge is concerned. It is open to all what they consider for these lines.

RegardsNirmal Kumar Bhardwaj , " kulbir

bance " <kulbirbance wrote:>

> Nirmal ji lets remove if any doubt is there regarding gardan and> garvan. page 117 line of gutka is GAR VAN KUAN NA HO....; LINE2 PAGE> 107 HAS TAH HI KACHI GAR VAN HO. please chech agar dono jagah gar

van> ki banawat ek jaisi hai to yeh confirm ho jata hai ki correct word in> line 2 of page 107 is gar van and gardan is not correct it has to be> gar van, meaning existing at that place. please confirm. is lafz

(line> 2 page 107) par jo gard hai use hamesha ke liye saaf kar dete hain.> sincerely> kulbirbance>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

Plz read my view on this in capital letters BELOW WORD " GAR WAAN " .

THANKS

, " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj "

<nirbhar wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir Ji,

> Let start line by line and word by word:

> Line 2 Page 110:

> Deewar Kacchi

> Nothing to explain . it is self explanatory. A Kachhi Deewar Made

of

> Bricks

> Mitti Kachhi

> Presence of Kachhi Mitti may be in any shape

> Tai(Teh) hi kachhi

> here comes the confusion amongst many. before going further let us

> try to solve the created puzzle - Difference between Kachhi Mitti

&

> Tai(teh).

> Mitti kachhi- it is a clayee soil which normally in villages

people

> bring at home from shamlaat land or dry pond . Make mud at home to

> plaster the mud wall or even used to create small place to grow

small

> plants like tulsi, flowers etc.

> Tai(teh)-makaan kaa Jo plot hota hai usay ham makaan ki tai zameen

> boltey hai. Now when we make the house, any unconstructed land

> remianed outside the constructed area but within the boundary wall

of

> the house is called remaining Teh zamin. Pandit ji had stated this

> land in these lines.

> gar vaan ho - If it is there

QUESTION: WHERE?

VIEW:- THIS WORD IS " GIRVAAN " - GIRNE VALLA/VAALI, IT IS ONE WORD.

THIS WORD ALSO USE IN " GUTKA " 1941,WHICH WAS WRONGLLY INTERPRETED

AS " GARDAAN " .

> Let us combine the above

> If Kachhi deewar or Kachhi mitti or Teh hee Kacchi(remaining land

> between boundary wall(VIEW: WHICH IS TO FALL)

REGARDS

UMESH SHARMA

and house and should not be made pakka by

> laying flooring or bricks) happens to be there then .......

> in the greater context we have to qayam the shukkar at the

direction

> of khana 10. in case of Shukkar 10.

> I have tried to explain the meaning of these lines as far as my

> knowledge is concerned.

> It is open to all what they consider for these lines.

> Regards

> Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

> , " kulbir

> bance " <kulbirbance@> wrote:

> >

> > Nirmal ji lets remove if any doubt is there regarding gardan and

> > garvan. page 117 line of gutka is GAR VAN KUAN NA HO....; LINE2

PAGE

> > 107 HAS TAH HI KACHI GAR VAN HO. please chech agar dono jagah

gar

> van

> > ki banawat ek jaisi hai to yeh confirm ho jata hai ki correct

word

> in

> > line 2 of page 107 is gar van and gardan is not correct it has

to be

> > gar van, meaning existing at that place. please confirm. is lafz

> (line

> > 2 page 107) par jo gard hai use hamesha ke liye saaf kar dete

hain.

> > sincerely

> > kulbirbance

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Guruji;> QUESTION: WHERE? is answered beyond doubt in 1952 edition as magrabi; western poertion/side. Teh hee Kacchi(remaining land between boundary wall (VIEW: WHICH IS TO FALL) which is to fall ka matalab samajh nahin aay ; aap kya kahan chate hain, aur Teh hee Kacchi(remaining land between boundary wall ) to page 826 par likha hai ki barik udne wali zarra zarra mitti ko shukkr aur tamam ik hi tai bani mitti ko chandra ki dharti mata kahte hain. ab batao kachi mitti ki teh (khaskar residential plot me chandra hui ki shukkra) . mere vichar me agar us jagah par ped paude ghass laga hai; yani khudai hoti rahti hai, mitti tootti rahti hai tabhi shukkr hoga nayatha lep lagakar tai lagai jagah ko to chandra hi lenge.

kulbirbance

kulbirbance , "Umesh Sharma" <mudit982001 wrote:>> Dear Sir,> Plz read my view on this in capital letters BELOW WORD "GAR WAAN".> THANKS> , "Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj" > nirbhar@ wrote:> >> > Dear Kulbir Ji,> > Let start line by line and word by word:> > Line 2 Page 110:> > Deewar Kacchi> > Nothing to explain . it is self explanatory. A Kachhi Deewar Made > of > > Bricks > > Mitti Kachhi> > Presence of Kachhi Mitti may be in any shape> > Tai(Teh) hi kachhi > > here comes the confusion amongst many. before going further let us > > try to solve the created puzzle - Difference between Kachhi Mitti > & > > Tai(teh).> > Mitti kachhi- it is a clayee soil which normally in villages > people > > bring at home from shamlaat land or dry pond . Make mud at home to > > plaster the mud wall or even used to create small place to grow > small > > plants like tulsi, flowers etc. > > Tai(teh)-makaan kaa Jo plot hota hai usay ham makaan ki tai zameen > > boltey hai. Now when we make the house, any unconstructed land > > remianed outside the constructed area but within the boundary wall > of > > the house is called remaining Teh zamin. Pandit ji had stated this > > land in these lines.> > gar vaan ho - If it is there> QUESTION: WHERE? > VIEW:- THIS WORD IS "GIRVAAN"- GIRNE VALLA/VAALI, IT IS ONE WORD. > THIS WORD ALSO USE IN "GUTKA"1941,WHICH WAS WRONGLLY INTERPRETED > AS "GARDAAN" .> > Let us combine the above> > If Kachhi deewar or Kachhi mitti or Teh hee Kacchi(remaining land > > between boundary wall(VIEW: WHICH IS TO FALL) > REGARDS> UMESH SHARMA > and house and should not be made pakka by > > laying flooring or bricks) happens to be there then .......> > in the greater context we have to qayam the shukkar at the > direction > > of khana 10. in case of Shukkar 10.> > I have tried to explain the meaning of these lines as far as my > > knowledge is concerned. > > It is open to all what they consider for these lines.> > Regards> > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj> > , "kulbir > > bance" <kulbirbance@> wrote:> > >> > > Nirmal ji lets remove if any doubt is there regarding gardan and> > > garvan. page 117 line of gutka is GAR VAN KUAN NA HO....; LINE2 > PAGE> > > 107 HAS TAH HI KACHI GAR VAN HO. please chech agar dono jagah > gar > > van> > > ki banawat ek jaisi hai to yeh confirm ho jata hai ki correct > word > > in> > > line 2 of page 107 is gar van and gardan is not correct it has > to be> > > gar van, meaning existing at that place. please confirm. is lafz > > (line> > > 2 page 107) par jo gard hai use hamesha ke liye saaf kar dete > hain.> > > sincerely> > > kulbirbance> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kulbir

Agreed

Thanks

Umesh Sharma

, " kulbirbance "

<kulbirbance wrote:

>

>

> Guruji;

> > QUESTION: WHERE? is answered beyond doubt in 1952 edition as

magrabi;

> western poertion/side.

> Teh hee Kacchi(remaining land between boundary wall (VIEW:

WHICH IS TO

> FALL) which is to fall ka matalab samajh nahin aay ; aap kya kahan

> chate hain, aur Teh hee Kacchi(remaining land between boundary

wall )

> to page 826 par likha hai ki barik udne wali zarra zarra mitti ko

> shukkr aur tamam ik hi tai bani mitti ko chandra ki dharti mata

kahte

> hain. ab batao kachi mitti ki teh (khaskar residential plot me

> chandra hui ki shukkra) . mere vichar me agar us jagah par ped

paude

> ghass laga hai; yani khudai hoti rahti hai, mitti tootti rahti hai

tabhi

> shukkr hoga nayatha lep lagakar tai lagai jagah ko to chandra hi

lenge.

>

> kulbirbance

>

> kulbirbance

> <kulbirbance > , " Umesh Sharma "

<mudit982001@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > Plz read my view on this in capital letters BELOW WORD " GAR

WAAN " .

> > THANKS

> > , " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj "

> > nirbhar@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kulbir Ji,

> > > Let start line by line and word by word:

> > > Line 2 Page 110:

> > > Deewar Kacchi

> > > Nothing to explain . it is self explanatory. A Kachhi Deewar

Made

> > of

> > > Bricks

> > > Mitti Kachhi

> > > Presence of Kachhi Mitti may be in any shape

> > > Tai(Teh) hi kachhi

> > > here comes the confusion amongst many. before going further

let us

> > > try to solve the created puzzle - Difference between Kachhi

Mitti

> > &

> > > Tai(teh).

> > > Mitti kachhi- it is a clayee soil which normally in villages

> > people

> > > bring at home from shamlaat land or dry pond . Make mud at

home to

> > > plaster the mud wall or even used to create small place to grow

> > small

> > > plants like tulsi, flowers etc.

> > > Tai(teh)-makaan kaa Jo plot hota hai usay ham makaan ki tai

zameen

> > > boltey hai. Now when we make the house, any unconstructed land

> > > remianed outside the constructed area but within the boundary

wall

> > of

> > > the house is called remaining Teh zamin. Pandit ji had stated

this

> > > land in these lines.

> > > gar vaan ho - If it is there

> > QUESTION: WHERE?

> > VIEW:- THIS WORD IS " GIRVAAN " - GIRNE VALLA/VAALI, IT IS ONE WORD.

> > THIS WORD ALSO USE IN " GUTKA " 1941,WHICH WAS WRONGLLY INTERPRETED

> > AS " GARDAAN " .

> > > Let us combine the above

> > > If Kachhi deewar or Kachhi mitti or Teh hee Kacchi(remaining

land

> > > between boundary wall(VIEW: WHICH IS TO FALL)

> > REGARDS

> > UMESH SHARMA

> > and house and should not be made pakka by

> > > laying flooring or bricks) happens to be there then .......

> > > in the greater context we have to qayam the shukkar at the

> > direction

> > > of khana 10. in case of Shukkar 10.

> > > I have tried to explain the meaning of these lines as far as my

> > > knowledge is concerned.

> > > It is open to all what they consider for these lines.

> > > Regards

> > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

> > > , " kulbir

> > > bance " <kulbirbance@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nirmal ji lets remove if any doubt is there regarding gardan

and

> > > > garvan. page 117 line of gutka is GAR VAN KUAN NA HO....;

LINE2

> > PAGE

> > > > 107 HAS TAH HI KACHI GAR VAN HO. please chech agar dono jagah

> > gar

> > > van

> > > > ki banawat ek jaisi hai to yeh confirm ho jata hai ki correct

> > word

> > > in

> > > > line 2 of page 107 is gar van and gardan is not correct it

has

> > to be

> > > > gar van, meaning existing at that place. please confirm. is

lafz

> > > (line

> > > > 2 page 107) par jo gard hai use hamesha ke liye saaf kar dete

> > hain.

> > > > sincerely

> > > > kulbirbance

> > > >

> > >

> >

>