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Dear Nirmal Ji,I was made to understand that Darya, Sea is the object of khana no.4 while well is the object of khana no.6. Is it correct.I could not find in the book where it is writen that darya, sea is the object of khana4 and well is of khana 6. Please clarify.

Yours-- Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)Consultant (Vedic Astrology)

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Respected Dr Kalsi Sahib,It is a pleasure to have a learned person like you in our Lal Kitab community. Sir, may I ask you which edition/editions of Lal Kitab do you have? Whether you have the translated versions or the original Urdu book? We may be able to quote the exact page and line number once we receive this information.RespectfullyYograj PrabhakarShivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi wrote: Dear Nirmal Ji,I was made to understand that Darya, Sea is the object of khana no.4 while well is the object of khana no.6. Is it

correct.I could not find in the book where it is writen that darya, sea is the object of khana4 and well is of khana 6. Please clarify. Yours-- Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)Consultant (Vedic Astrology)

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kalsi ji, please read page 83 0f gutka published by prabhakar ji, QUAN LAGE MATA MARE for chandra khana no 6. regarding doodh samandra dariya please read under heading pakka ghar no 4 in 1942 book 2nd line doodh samandra dariya hai Kulbir Bains

 

Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi Sent: Friday, 2 November, 2007 11:17:00 AM Khana No.4 Ashiyaan

 

Dear Nirmal Ji,I was made to understand that Darya, Sea is the object of khana no.4 while well is the object of khana no.6. Is it correct.I could not find in the book where it is writen that darya, sea is the object of khana4 and well is of khana 6. Please clarify. Yours-- Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)Consultant (Vedic Astrology)

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Respected Kalsi Ji,Kulbir ji has rightly said. I read in poetry section of 1941 book and its written " doodh, samunder, darya " . There is no doubt about it. Well is Pataal -House No 6.ReagrdsVinay

On 11/2/07, kulbir bains <kulbirbains wrote:

 

kalsi ji, please read page 83 0f gutka published by prabhakar ji, QUAN LAGE MATA MARE for chandra khana no 6. regarding doodh samandra dariya please read under heading pakka ghar no 4 in 1942 book 2nd line doodh samandra dariya hai

Kulbir Bains

Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi

Sent: Friday, 2 November, 2007 11:17:00 AM Khana No.4 AshiyaanDear Nirmal Ji,I was made to understand that Darya, Sea is the object of khana no.4 while well is the object of khana no.6. Is it correct.I could not find in the book where it is writen that darya, sea is the object of khana4 and well is of khana 6. Please clarify. Yours--

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Respected Prabhakar Ji,Thanks for the compliments. I am not so learned as you said. I am just a kid as far as LallKitab is concerned.I am sure that I will catchup with the subject with the help of persons like you.

I have all the three books transliterated by you & Beni Goswami ji apart from Arun Sanhita of Chandigarh and 1942 by Pushkarna(Type writed). I also started reading urdu and reading online 1942 book provided by you though not so fast. I have the original version of 1952 book in urdu also.

I do not find the reference of darya samunder in my books may be left by oversight except the poetic version of Gutka.This is cryptic and hence difficult for me to understand. it may take time to understandYours

Shiv Dev KalsiOn 11/2/07, Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote:

Respected Dr Kalsi Sahib,It is a pleasure to have a learned person like you in our Lal Kitab community. Sir, may I ask you which edition/editions of Lal Kitab do you have? Whether you have the translated versions or the original Urdu book? We may be able to quote the exact page and line number once we receive this information.

RespectfullyYograj PrabhakarShivdev Kalsi <

shivdev.kalsi wrote:Dear Nirmal Ji,I was made to understand that Darya, Sea is the object of khana no.4 while well is the object of khana no.6. Is it correct.I could not find in the book where it is writen that darya, sea is the object of khana4 and well is of khana 6. Please clarify. Yours--

Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)Consultant (Vedic Astrology) -- Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)Consultant (Vedic Astrology)

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Dear Kalsi Ji,It is worth that your are having & reading original Texts. It very much clear that Darya and samunder is not the object fo khana no.4. I can tell the line number and page number where the clarification is given. But this will violate the code of conduct of reading the book.

This code of conduct is given in the book. It is said to read and read the book it will give as much as much times you read it. You and others may find my this logic little bit itchy but it will give good results later on.

Till you not find it in the book, my request is to not to consider the Darya and samunder as an object of khana no. 4 while applying logic for remedies.Just consider it as an pious place for remedy. I can help you for the difficult texts if you cite page no and line no. But giving shortcuts is not the objective of this group.

RegardsNirmal Kumar BhardwajOn 11/2/07, Vinay kumar <v4vedic wrote:

Respected Kalsi Ji,Kulbir ji has rightly said. I read in poetry section of 1941 book and its written " doodh, samunder, darya " . There is no doubt about it. Well is Pataal -House No 6.

ReagrdsVinayOn 11/2/07, kulbir bains <

kulbirbains wrote:

kalsi ji, please read page 83 0f gutka published by prabhakar ji, QUAN LAGE MATA MARE for chandra khana no 6. regarding doodh samandra dariya please read under heading pakka ghar no 4 in 1942 book 2nd line doodh samandra dariya hai Kulbir Bains

Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi

Sent: Friday, 2 November, 2007 11:17:00 AM Khana No.4 AshiyaanDear Nirmal Ji,I was made to understand that Darya, Sea is the object of khana no.4 while well is the object of khana no.6. Is it correct.I could not find in the book where it is writen that darya, sea is the object of khana4 and well is of khana 6. Please clarify. Yours--

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Dear Bhardwaj Ji,Thanks for guiding me. Rest assured I will find it with in month. Bhardwaj Ji, Every confused students needs answer to his query,do you think that this ideology will give you a positive

image in the group amongst other co-astrologers/group members.YoursShiv Dev KalsiOn 11/4/07, NKB <

nirbhar wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Kalsi Ji,It is worth that your are having & reading original Texts. It very much clear that Darya and samunder is not the object fo khana no.4. I can tell the line number and page number where the clarification is given. But this will violate the code of conduct of reading the book.

This code of conduct is given in the book. It is said to read and read the book it will give as much as much times you read it. You and others may find my this logic little bit itchy but it will give good results later on.

Till you not find it in the book, my request is to not to consider the Darya and samunder as an object of khana no. 4 while applying logic for remedies.Just consider it as an pious place for remedy. I can help you for the difficult texts if you cite page no and line no. But giving shortcuts is not the objective of this group.

RegardsNirmal Kumar BhardwajOn 11/2/07, Vinay kumar <

v4vedic wrote:

Respected Kalsi Ji,Kulbir ji has rightly said. I read in poetry section of 1941 book and its written " doodh, samunder, darya " . There is no doubt about it. Well is Pataal -House No 6.

ReagrdsVinayOn 11/2/07, kulbir bains <

kulbirbains wrote:

kalsi ji, please read page 83 0f gutka published by prabhakar ji, QUAN LAGE MATA MARE for chandra khana no 6. regarding doodh samandra dariya please read under heading pakka ghar no 4 in 1942 book 2nd line doodh samandra dariya hai Kulbir Bains

Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi

Sent: Friday, 2 November, 2007 11:17:00 AM Khana No.4 AshiyaanDear Nirmal Ji,I was made to understand that Darya, Sea is the object of khana no.4 while well is the object of khana no.6. Is it correct.I could not find in the book where it is writen that darya, sea is the object of khana4 and well is of khana 6. Please clarify. Yours--

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Dear Bhardwaj Ji,Aap ki approach theek lagi. App kaa do took jawaab dena dekhnay mein to lagegaa kee kadwa hai is kaa asar aanwley jaisa hai. Jis kaa sawaad khaanay mein kadwa aur baad mein meetha hoga. Abb yeh to padhnay waalay ko baad mein hee pata chalaiga. abb kitaab ke under kahaan kya likha hai yeh thoda bataana hai. Bhai Jo samajh mein nahin aa raha hai voh pooch lo. Vaisay main bhee aaj taq yehi samajh rahaa hoon kee darya khana no. 4 kee asheyyaan hai. Aap se sunkar mujahy bhee dobaaraa doondhnaa padega.Vaisay samunder to chander 8 kee asheyaan hee hai. Yeh to mainey bhee padha hai.Ye urdu kee kitabaen jo aap ne internet per daali hain ye bahut achha kiya hai. Aap apnay group mein discussion shuru kariye. Main bhee hissa loonga.

AapkaIqbal On 11/4/07, NKB <nirbhar wrote:

Dear Kalsi Ji,It is worth that your are having & reading original Texts. It very much clear that Darya and samunder is not the object fo khana no.4. I can tell the line number and page number where the clarification is given. But this will violate the code of conduct of reading the book. This code of conduct is given in the book. It is said to read and read the book it will give as much as much times you read it.

You and others may find my this logic little bit itchy but it will give good results later on. Till you not find it in the book, my request is to not to consider the Darya and samunder as an object of khana no. 4 while applying logic for remedies.Just consider it as an pious place for remedy. I can help you for the difficult texts if you cite page no and line no. But giving shortcuts is not the objective of this group. RegardsNirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

On 11/2/07, Vinay kumar <v4vedic

> wrote:Respected Kalsi Ji,Kulbir ji has rightly said. I read in poetry section of 1941 book and its written " doodh, samunder, darya " . There is no doubt about it. Well is Pataal -House No 6. ReagrdsVinayOn 11/2/07, kulbir bains <

kulbirbains wrote:

kalsi ji, please read page 83 0f gutka published by prabhakar ji, QUAN LAGE MATA MARE for chandra khana no 6. regarding doodh samandra dariya please read under heading pakka ghar no 4 in 1942 book 2nd line doodh samandra dariya hai Kulbir Bains

Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi

Sent: Friday, 2 November, 2007 11:17:00 AM Khana No.4 AshiyaanDear Nirmal Ji,I was made to understand that Darya, Sea is the object of khana no.4 while well is the object of khana no.6. Is it correct.I could not find in the book where it is writen that darya, sea is the object of khana4 and well is of khana 6. Please clarify. Yours--

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Dear Kalsi Ji,This group is set up having a well defined approach and Goals. First & uttermost goal of our group is to bring the non urdu knowing lalkitab students at par with urdu reading students.We are going right on the path of that goal. Three books equivalent to the urdu books are now with all the . With the God Grace Transliteration of Last two books may see the Light within 2008.

Though the old translated books played an important role to keep this science alive but mistakes and missing lines in those books have also harmed this science.In my opinion study cannot be possible with the non availability of correct text books. This was what happenned in discussion groups. Every individual discuss the point with his own test book without knowing the genuinity of the text in the book.

You know urdu can read original text. you are welcome to discuss any topic on LalKitab. We all are students. Dear Kalsi ji , I have not contest for an election nor I have to make astrological Base for practicing the astrology.So Negative or positive does not make any difference. RegardsNirmal Kumar BhardwajOn 11/5/07, Shivdev Kalsi <

shivdev.kalsi wrote:

Dear Bhardwaj Ji,Thanks for guiding me. Rest assured I will find it with in month. Bhardwaj Ji, Every confused students needs answer to his query,do you think that this ideology will give you a positive image in the group amongst other co-astrologers/group members.YoursShiv Dev Kalsi

On 11/4/07, NKB < nirbhar wrote:

Dear Kalsi Ji,It is worth that your are having & reading original Texts. It very much clear that Darya and samunder is not the object fo khana no.4. I can tell the line number and page number where the clarification is given. But this will violate the code of conduct of reading the book. This code of conduct is given in the book. It is said to read and read the book it will give as much as much times you read it.

You and others may find my this logic little bit itchy but it will give good results later on. Till you not find it in the book, my request is to not to consider the Darya and samunder as an object of khana no. 4 while applying logic for remedies.Just consider it as an pious place for remedy. I can help you for the difficult texts if you cite page no and line no. But giving shortcuts is not the objective of this group. RegardsNirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

On 11/2/07, Vinay kumar < v4vedic

> wrote:Respected Kalsi Ji,Kulbir ji has rightly said. I read in poetry section of 1941 book and its written " doodh, samunder, darya " . There is no doubt about it. Well is Pataal -House No 6. ReagrdsVinayOn 11/2/07, kulbir bains <

kulbirbains wrote:

kalsi ji, please read page 83 0f gutka published by prabhakar ji, QUAN LAGE MATA MARE for chandra khana no 6. regarding doodh samandra dariya please read under heading pakka ghar no 4 in 1942 book 2nd line doodh samandra dariya hai Kulbir Bains

Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi

Sent: Friday, 2 November, 2007 11:17:00 AM Khana No.4 AshiyaanDear Nirmal Ji,I was made to understand that Darya, Sea is the object of khana no.4 while well is the object of khana no.6. Is it correct.I could not find in the book where it is writen that darya, sea is the object of khana4 and well is of khana 6. Please clarify. Yours--

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SIr,

yahan tak main samjhata hoon darya ya samunder koi ashiyann nahi

hain, darya or samunder mein to hum log koi ashiyann prvah kar sakte

hain, yahan tak mera khayal hai sdamunder mein koi ashiyaan pravaah

karne ka vihan nahi hai lal kitab mein sirf darya ya chalte paani

mein parvaah kanre ka vidhan hain . kis grah ki kis ashiyaan ko aapne

pravaah karna hai yeh lal kitab mein likha hai. har grah ki khanavar

ashiyaan alag alag hai.

agar koi galti ho to maafi chahta hoon.

jagmohan

, NKB <nirbhar wrote:

>

> Dear Kalsi Ji,

> This group is set up having a well defined approach and Goals.

> First & uttermost goal of our group is to bring the non urdu knowing

> lalkitab students at par with urdu reading students.We are going

right

> on the path of that goal. Three books equivalent to the urdu books

are

> now with all

> the . With the God Grace Transliteration of

> Last two books may see the Light within 2008.

> Though the old translated books played an important role to keep

this

> science alive but mistakes and missing lines in those books have

also harmed

> this science.

> In my opinion study cannot be possible with the non availability of

correct

> text books. This was what happenned in discussion groups. Every

individual

> discuss the point with his own test book without knowing the

genuinity of

> the text in the book.

> You know urdu can read original text. you are welcome to discuss

any topic

> on LalKitab. We all are students.

> Dear Kalsi ji , I have not contest for an election nor I have to

make

> astrological Base for practicing the astrology.So Negative or

positive does

> not make any difference.

> Regards

> Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

>

> On 11/5/07, Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhardwaj Ji,

> > Thanks for guiding me. Rest assured I will find it with in month.

> > Bhardwaj Ji, Every confused students needs answer to his

query,do you

> > think that this ideology will give you a positive image in the

group amongst

> > other co-astrologers/group members.

> > Yours

> > Shiv Dev Kalsi

> > On 11/4/07, NKB < nirbhar wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kalsi Ji,

> > > It is worth that your are having & reading original Texts. It

very much

> > > clear that Darya and samunder is not the object fo khana no.4.

> > > I can tell the line number and page number where the

clarification is given. But this will violate the code of conduct of

reading the book.

> > >

> > >

> > > This code of conduct is given in the book. It is said to read

and read the book it will give as much as much times you read it.

> > > You and others

> > > may find my this logic little bit itchy but it will give good

results later on.

> > >

> > > Till you not find it in the book, my request is to not to

consider the

> > > Darya and samunder as an object of khana no. 4 while applying

logic for

> > > remedies.Just consider it as an pious place for remedy.

> > > I can help you for the difficult texts if you cite page no and

line no.

> > > But giving shortcuts is not the objective of this group.

> > > Regards

> > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

> > >

> > >

> > > On 11/2/07, Vinay kumar < v4vedic wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Kalsi Ji,

> > > > Kulbir ji has rightly said. I read in poetry section of 1941

book and

> > > > its written " doodh, samunder, darya " . There is no doubt about

it. Well is

> > > > Pataal -House No 6.

> > > > Reagrds

> > > > Vinay

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 11/2/07, kulbir bains < kulbirbains wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > kalsi ji, please read page 83 0f gutka published by

prabhakar ji,

> > > > > QUAN LAGE MATA MARE for chandra khana no 6. regarding doodh

samandra dariya

> > > > > please read under heading pakka ghar no 4 in 1942 book 2nd

line doodh

> > > > > samandra dariya hai

> > > > >

> > > > > *Kulbir Bains*

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi

> > > > >

> > > > > Friday, 2 November, 2007 11:17:00 AM

> > > > > Khana No.4 Ashiyaan

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Nirmal Ji,

> > > > > I was made to understand that Darya, Sea is the object of

khana no.4while well is the object of khana

> > > > > no.6. Is it correct.I could not find in the book where it

is writen

> > > > > that darya, sea is the object of khana4 and well is of

khana 6. Please

> > > > > clarify.

> > > > > Yours

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,

> > > > > Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)

> > > > > Consultant (Vedic Astrology)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------

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here to

> > > > > know

how.<http://in.rd./tagline_mail_5/*http://help./l/in

//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,

> > Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)

> > Consultant (Vedic Astrology)

> >

> >

>

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I agree with you Mahajan Ji. as per Lalkitab Chalta darya/paani is a

special sacred place in Lalkitab where you can perform the remedial

measure.

Regards

Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

, " mts3434 " <mts3434 wrote:

>

> SIr,

> yahan tak main samjhata hoon darya ya samunder koi ashiyann nahi

> hain, darya or samunder mein to hum log koi ashiyann prvah kar

sakte

> hain, yahan tak mera khayal hai sdamunder mein koi ashiyaan pravaah

> karne ka vihan nahi hai lal kitab mein sirf darya ya chalte paani

> mein parvaah kanre ka vidhan hain . kis grah ki kis ashiyaan ko

aapne

> pravaah karna hai yeh lal kitab mein likha hai. har grah ki

khanavar

> ashiyaan alag alag hai.

> agar koi galti ho to maafi chahta hoon.

> jagmohan

> , NKB <nirbhar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kalsi Ji,

> > This group is set up having a well defined approach and Goals.

> > First & uttermost goal of our group is to bring the non urdu

knowing

> > lalkitab students at par with urdu reading students.We are going

> right

> > on the path of that goal. Three books equivalent to the urdu

books

> are

> > now with all

> > the . With the God Grace Transliteration of

> > Last two books may see the Light within 2008.

> > Though the old translated books played an important role to keep

> this

> > science alive but mistakes and missing lines in those books have

> also harmed

> > this science.

> > In my opinion study cannot be possible with the non availability

of

> correct

> > text books. This was what happenned in discussion groups. Every

> individual

> > discuss the point with his own test book without knowing the

> genuinity of

> > the text in the book.

> > You know urdu can read original text. you are welcome to discuss

> any topic

> > on LalKitab. We all are students.

> > Dear Kalsi ji , I have not contest for an election nor I have to

> make

> > astrological Base for practicing the astrology.So Negative or

> positive does

> > not make any difference.

> > Regards

> > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

> >

> > On 11/5/07, Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhardwaj Ji,

> > > Thanks for guiding me. Rest assured I will find it with in

month.

> > > Bhardwaj Ji, Every confused students needs answer to his

> query,do you

> > > think that this ideology will give you a positive image in the

> group amongst

> > > other co-astrologers/group members.

> > > Yours

> > > Shiv Dev Kalsi

> > > On 11/4/07, NKB < nirbhar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kalsi Ji,

> > > > It is worth that your are having & reading original Texts. It

> very much

> > > > clear that Darya and samunder is not the object fo khana no.4.

> > > > I can tell the line number and page number where the

> clarification is given. But this will violate the code of conduct

of

> reading the book.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > This code of conduct is given in the book. It is said to read

> and read the book it will give as much as much times you read it.

> > > > You and others

> > > > may find my this logic little bit itchy but it will give good

> results later on.

> > > >

> > > > Till you not find it in the book, my request is to not to

> consider the

> > > > Darya and samunder as an object of khana no. 4 while applying

> logic for

> > > > remedies.Just consider it as an pious place for remedy.

> > > > I can help you for the difficult texts if you cite page no

and

> line no.

> > > > But giving shortcuts is not the objective of this group.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On 11/2/07, Vinay kumar < v4vedic@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Kalsi Ji,

> > > > > Kulbir ji has rightly said. I read in poetry section of

1941

> book and

> > > > > its written " doodh, samunder, darya " . There is no doubt

about

> it. Well is

> > > > > Pataal -House No 6.

> > > > > Reagrds

> > > > > Vinay

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On 11/2/07, kulbir bains < kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kalsi ji, please read page 83 0f gutka published by

> prabhakar ji,

> > > > > > QUAN LAGE MATA MARE for chandra khana no 6. regarding

doodh

> samandra dariya

> > > > > > please read under heading pakka ghar no 4 in 1942 book

2nd

> line doodh

> > > > > > samandra dariya hai

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *Kulbir Bains*

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi@>

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> > > > > > Friday, 2 November, 2007 11:17:00 AM

> > > > > > Khana No.4 Ashiyaan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Nirmal Ji,

> > > > > > I was made to understand that Darya, Sea is the object of

> khana no.4while well is the object of khana

> > > > > > no.6. Is it correct.I could not find in the book where it

> is writen

> > > > > > that darya, sea is the object of khana4 and well is of

> khana 6. Please

> > > > > > clarify.

> > > > > > Yours

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At one time, I was closer to the ocean than a river and Pt. Rup Chand jee had said that remedial measures could be performed at the ocean or the river, whichever was more convenient. He said that it made no difference unless the ocean was specifically mentioned in certain special cases. Rajinder Bhatia Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar wrote: I agree with you Mahajan Ji. as per Lalkitab Chalta darya/paani is a special sacred place in Lalkitab where you can perform

the remedial measure.RegardsNirmal Kumar Bhardwaj , "mts3434" <mts3434 wrote:>> SIr,> yahan tak main samjhata hoon darya ya samunder koi ashiyann nahi > hain, darya or samunder mein to hum log koi ashiyann prvah kar sakte > hain, yahan tak mera khayal hai sdamunder mein koi ashiyaan pravaah > karne ka vihan nahi hai lal kitab mein sirf darya ya chalte paani > mein parvaah kanre ka vidhan hain . kis grah ki kis ashiyaan ko aapne > pravaah karna hai yeh lal kitab mein likha hai. har grah ki khanavar > ashiyaan alag alag hai. > agar koi galti ho to maafi chahta hoon.> jagmohan > , NKB <nirbhar@> wrote:> >> > Dear Kalsi Ji,>

> This group is set up having a well defined approach and Goals.> > First & uttermost goal of our group is to bring the non urdu knowing> > lalkitab students at par with urdu reading students.We are going > right> > on the path of that goal. Three books equivalent to the urdu books > are> > now with all> > the . With the God Grace Transliteration of> > Last two books may see the Light within 2008.> > Though the old translated books played an important role to keep > this> > science alive but mistakes and missing lines in those books have > also harmed> > this science.> > In my opinion study cannot be possible with the non availability of > correct> > text books. This was what happenned in discussion groups. Every > individual> > discuss the point with his own test book without

knowing the > genuinity of> > the text in the book.> > You know urdu can read original text. you are welcome to discuss > any topic> > on LalKitab. We all are students.> > Dear Kalsi ji , I have not contest for an election nor I have to > make> > astrological Base for practicing the astrology.So Negative or > positive does> > not make any difference.> > Regards> > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj> > > > On 11/5/07, Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhardwaj Ji,> > > Thanks for guiding me. Rest assured I will find it with in month.> > > Bhardwaj Ji, Every confused students needs answer to his > query,do you> > > think that this ideology will give you a positive image in the > group amongst> > > other co-astrologers/group

members.> > > Yours> > > Shiv Dev Kalsi> > > On 11/4/07, NKB < nirbhar@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Kalsi Ji,> > > > It is worth that your are having & reading original Texts. It > very much> > > > clear that Darya and samunder is not the object fo khana no.4.> > > > I can tell the line number and page number where the > clarification is given. But this will violate the code of conduct of > reading the book.> > > >> > > >> > > > This code of conduct is given in the book. It is said to read > and read the book it will give as much as much times you read it.> > > > You and others> > > > may find my this logic little bit itchy but it will give good > results later on.> > > >> > > > Till you not find it

in the book, my request is to not to > consider the> > > > Darya and samunder as an object of khana no. 4 while applying > logic for> > > > remedies.Just consider it as an pious place for remedy.> > > > I can help you for the difficult texts if you cite page no and > line no.> > > > But giving shortcuts is not the objective of this group.> > > > Regards> > > > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj> > > >> > > >> > > > On 11/2/07, Vinay kumar < v4vedic@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Kalsi Ji,> > > > > Kulbir ji has rightly said. I read in poetry section of 1941 > book and> > > > > its written "doodh, samunder, darya". There is no doubt about > it. Well is> > > > > Pataal -House No 6.> >

> > > Reagrds> > > > > Vinay> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 11/2/07, kulbir bains < kulbirbains@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > kalsi ji, please read page 83 0f gutka published by > prabhakar ji,> > > > > > QUAN LAGE MATA MARE for chandra khana no 6. regarding doodh > samandra dariya> > > > > > please read under heading pakka ghar no 4 in 1942 book 2nd > line doodh> > > > > > samandra dariya hai> > > > > >> > > > > > *Kulbir Bains*> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Shivdev Kalsi <shivdev.kalsi@>> > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, 2 November, 2007 11:17:00 AM> > > > > > Khana No.4 Ashiyaan> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Nirmal Ji,> > > > > > I was made to understand that Darya, Sea is the object of > khana no.4while well is the object of khana> > > > > > no.6. Is it correct.I could not find in the book where it > is writen> > > > > > that darya, sea is the object of khana4 and well is of > khana 6. Please> > > > > > clarify.> > > > > > Yours> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Dr. Shiv Dev Kalsi,> > > > > > Jyotish Rishi (AIFAS)> > > > > >

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