FARMAAN NO.1.meaning of kalapna

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Dear Kulbirbains, May be I am wrong, but in farmaan no.1 it is not hindi word kalapna( Imagination), We use this word kalapna in Urdu as well as in Punjabi, which means to face some problem from someone/something Or put someone in problem, mentally or physically. Kalpana mean bother hona and Kalpaana mean dosray ko bother kerna. for example we say often Yaar main garmi main 2 hours kalapta reha magar aap ka ghar nahin mila. YA HUKUM -E- KUDRTI KO APNA HI KHUD BANANA SAB KAY SAB BAND PARAY THAY ... Is ka matlab hai... kudrat ki traraf say jo taqdeer (Hukum_e_ kudriti) likhi gyee thi is bahcay nay us per amal (Act) nahin kia tha (sab kay sab band paray thay) becasue when this child will act according to his destiny (

hukum_e_kudriti) Then all act will deposited to his own account mean ( Hukum_e_kudriti ko apna hi khud banana). I am reading lalkitaabs first time in my life so may be I am wrorng so If I am wrong please ignor my mistake. Thanks with regrads kulbirbains <kulbirbains wrote: AKASH ME ZAMANE KI HAA KA MALIK BRAHSPAT THA JISME GARMI KE BHANDARI SOORAJ KI CHAMAK SE CHANDR KE PAANI AUR SHUKKR KI MITTI KE BAAD MANGAL KA

KHANA - PEENA, BUDH KI AKAL V BOLNA BULANA, SHANICHAR KA JAADU MANTRA AUR DEKHNA DIKHANA, RAHU KI RAHNUMAI V KALPANA KALPAANA AURKETU SE CHALNA PHIRNA, GAIRON SE MILNA MILANA YA HUKUM E KUDRATI KO APNA HI KHUD BANANA...the main points of this farmaan are;1. brahspatJUPITER + soorajSUN = chandrMOON.2. garmiHEAT and chamakSHINE are shay of soorajSUN;3. mittiUPPER LAYER OF EARTH is the shay of shukkrVENUS;4. khaana peena DIGESTIVE SYSTEM is the shay of mangal;5. akalINTELLIGENCE and bolna bulanaCOMMUNICATION is the shay of budhMERCURY;6. jaadu mantraMAGIC and dekhna dikhanaSIGHT is the shay of shanicharSATURN;7. rahnumiFORETELLAR(torch bearer), kalpanaIMAGINATON and kalpaana SELF PITY are the shay of rahu;8. chalna phirnaTRANSPORTATION; gairon se milna milanaCOMMUNICATION WITH STRANGERSi am not clear about the meaning of YA HUKUM E KUDRATI KO APNA HI KHUD BANANA...kindly give ur

views.kulbir bains"Make light around you," said the fire.

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Wah Wah, Excellent! Saleem Bhai,Accept my heartiest congratulations

for your first post regarding subject.

Indeed mission of Respected Prabhakar ji to provide reading facility

to all , is giving fruitful results.

Yes , I agree that word 'kalpana' & 'kalpaana' is as described by you.

a'. Actually these are punjabi words and dictionary meanings are

 

Kalapna- Dukh naal bolna, Kosna, khafa hona

Kalpaana- Dukhi Karna,Khapauna

*********

Kalpna-imagination- in my view is of Rahu's Item. Gurujans, Please

correct me if I wrong

Weldone Saleem Bhai.

Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

, Navik <navik80 wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbirbains,

>

> May be I am wrong, but in farmaan no.1 it is not hindi word

kalapna( Imagination), We use this word kalapna in Urdu as well as in

Punjabi, which means to face some problem from someone/something Or

put someone in problem, mentally or physically.

> Kalpana mean bother hona and Kalpaana mean dosray ko bother

kerna.

> for example we say often Yaar main garmi main 2 hours kalapta

reha magar aap ka ghar nahin mila.

>

> YA HUKUM -E- KUDRTI KO APNA HI KHUD BANANA SAB KAY SAB BAND

PARAY THAY ...

>

> Is ka matlab hai... kudrat ki traraf say jo taqdeer (Hukum_e_

kudriti) likhi gyee thi is bahcay nay us per amal (Act) nahin kia tha

(sab kay sab band paray thay) becasue when this child will act

according to his destiny ( hukum_e_kudriti) Then all act will

deposited to his own account mean ( Hukum_e_kudriti ko apna hi khud

banana).

>

> I am reading lalkitaabs first time in my life so may be I am

wrorng so If I am wrong please ignor my mistake.

>

> Thanks with regrads

>

> kulbirbains <kulbirbains wrote:

> AKASH ME ZAMANE KI HAA KA MALIK BRAHSPAT THA JISME GARMI

KE BHANDARI

> SOORAJ KI CHAMAK SE CHANDR KE PAANI AUR

> SHUKKR KI MITTI KE BAAD MANGAL KA KHANA - PEENA,

> BUDH KI AKAL V BOLNA BULANA,

> SHANICHAR KA JAADU MANTRA AUR DEKHNA DIKHANA,

> RAHU KI RAHNUMAI V KALPANA KALPAANA AUR

> KETU SE CHALNA PHIRNA, GAIRON SE MILNA MILANA YA HUKUM E KUDRATI KO

> APNA HI KHUD BANANA...

>

> the main points of this farmaan are;

> 1. brahspatJUPITER + soorajSUN = chandrMOON.

> 2. garmiHEAT and chamakSHINE are shay of soorajSUN;

> 3. mittiUPPER LAYER OF EARTH is the shay of shukkrVENUS;

> 4. khaana peena DIGESTIVE SYSTEM is the shay of mangal;

> 5. akalINTELLIGENCE and bolna bulanaCOMMUNICATION is the shay of

> budhMERCURY;

> 6. jaadu mantraMAGIC and dekhna dikhanaSIGHT is the shay of

> shanicharSATURN;

> 7. rahnumiFORETELLAR(torch bearer), kalpanaIMAGINATON and kalpaana

> SELF PITY are the shay of rahu;

> 8. chalna phirnaTRANSPORTATION; gairon se milna milanaCOMMUNICATION

> WITH STRANGERS

> i am not clear about the meaning of YA HUKUM E KUDRATI KO APNA HI

KHUD

> BANANA...kindly give ur views.

> kulbir bains

" Make light around you, " said the fire.

>

>

>

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check outnew cars at Autos.

>

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thanx guruji and also to navik ji but how does YA HUKUM -E- KUDRTI KO APNA HI KHUD BANANA relates to ketu. kulbir bainsNirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar wrote: Wah Wah, Excellent! Saleem Bhai,Accept my heartiest congratulations for your first post regarding subject.Indeed mission of Respected Prabhakar ji to provide reading facility to all , is giving fruitful results. Yes , I agree that word 'kalpana' & 'kalpaana' is as described by you.a'. Actually these are punjabi words and dictionary meanings areKalapna- Dukh naal bolna, Kosna, khafa honaKalpaana- Dukhi Karna,Khapauna*********Kalpna-imagination- in my view is of Rahu's Item. Gurujans, Please correct me if I wrongWeldone Saleem Bhai. Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj , Navik <navik80 wrote:>> Dear Kulbirbains,> > May be I am wrong, but in farmaan no.1 it is not hindi word

kalapna( Imagination), We use this word kalapna in Urdu as well as in Punjabi, which means to face some problem from someone/something Or put someone in problem, mentally or physically. > Kalpana mean bother hona and Kalpaana mean dosray ko bother kerna. > for example we say often Yaar main garmi main 2 hours kalapta reha magar aap ka ghar nahin mila.> > YA HUKUM -E- KUDRTI KO APNA HI KHUD BANANA SAB KAY SAB BAND PARAY THAY ...> > Is ka matlab hai... kudrat ki traraf say jo taqdeer (Hukum_e_ kudriti) likhi gyee thi is bahcay nay us per amal (Act) nahin kia tha (sab kay sab band paray thay) becasue when this child will act according to his destiny ( hukum_e_kudriti) Then all act will deposited to his own account mean ( Hukum_e_kudriti ko apna hi khud banana).> > I am reading lalkitaabs first time in my life so may be I am wrorng so If I am wrong please ignor my

mistake.> > Thanks with regrads> > kulbirbains <kulbirbains wrote:> AKASH ME ZAMANE KI HAA KA MALIK BRAHSPAT THA JISME GARMI KE BHANDARI > SOORAJ KI CHAMAK SE CHANDR KE PAANI AUR > SHUKKR KI MITTI KE BAAD MANGAL KA KHANA - PEENA, > BUDH KI AKAL V BOLNA BULANA, > SHANICHAR KA JAADU MANTRA AUR DEKHNA DIKHANA, > RAHU KI RAHNUMAI V KALPANA KALPAANA AUR> KETU SE CHALNA PHIRNA, GAIRON SE MILNA MILANA YA HUKUM E KUDRATI KO > APNA HI KHUD BANANA...> > the main points of this farmaan are;> 1. brahspatJUPITER + soorajSUN = chandrMOON.> 2. garmiHEAT and chamakSHINE are shay of soorajSUN;> 3. mittiUPPER LAYER OF EARTH is the shay of shukkrVENUS;> 4. khaana peena DIGESTIVE SYSTEM is the shay of mangal;> 5. akalINTELLIGENCE and bolna bulanaCOMMUNICATION is the shay of > budhMERCURY;> 6. jaadu mantraMAGIC and dekhna

dikhanaSIGHT is the shay of > shanicharSATURN;> 7. rahnumiFORETELLAR(torch bearer), kalpanaIMAGINATON and kalpaana > SELF PITY are the shay of rahu;> 8. chalna phirnaTRANSPORTATION; gairon se milna milanaCOMMUNICATION > WITH STRANGERS> i am not clear about the meaning of YA HUKUM E KUDRATI KO APNA HI KHUD > BANANA...kindly give ur views.> kulbir bains> > > > > > > "Make light around you," said the fire.> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check outnew cars at Autos.>

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Janab nirmal Kumar bhardwaj sahib , thanks for appriciate me... RegardsNirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar wrote: Wah Wah, Excellent! Saleem Bhai,Accept my heartiest congratulations for your first post regarding subject.Indeed mission of Respected Prabhakar ji to provide reading facility to all , is giving fruitful results. Yes , I agree that word 'kalpana' & 'kalpaana' is as described by you.a'. Actually these are punjabi

words and dictionary meanings areKalapna- Dukh naal bolna, Kosna, khafa honaKalpaana- Dukhi Karna,Khapauna*********Kalpna-imagination- in my view is of Rahu's Item. Gurujans, Please correct me if I wrongWeldone Saleem Bhai. Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj , Navik <navik80 wrote:>> Dear Kulbirbains,> > May be I am wrong, but in farmaan no.1 it is not hindi word kalapna( Imagination), We use this word kalapna in Urdu as well as in Punjabi, which means to face some problem from someone/something Or put someone in problem, mentally or physically. > Kalpana mean bother hona and Kalpaana mean dosray ko bother kerna. > for example we say often Yaar main garmi main 2 hours kalapta reha magar aap ka ghar nahin mila.> > YA HUKUM -E- KUDRTI KO APNA HI KHUD BANANA SAB

KAY SAB BAND PARAY THAY ...> > Is ka matlab hai... kudrat ki traraf say jo taqdeer (Hukum_e_ kudriti) likhi gyee thi is bahcay nay us per amal (Act) nahin kia tha (sab kay sab band paray thay) becasue when this child will act according to his destiny ( hukum_e_kudriti) Then all act will deposited to his own account mean ( Hukum_e_kudriti ko apna hi khud banana).> > I am reading lalkitaabs first time in my life so may be I am wrorng so If I am wrong please ignor my mistake.> > Thanks with regrads> > kulbirbains <kulbirbains wrote:> AKASH ME ZAMANE KI HAA KA MALIK BRAHSPAT THA JISME GARMI KE BHANDARI > SOORAJ KI CHAMAK SE CHANDR KE PAANI AUR > SHUKKR KI MITTI KE BAAD MANGAL KA KHANA - PEENA, > BUDH KI AKAL V BOLNA BULANA, > SHANICHAR KA JAADU MANTRA AUR DEKHNA DIKHANA, > RAHU KI RAHNUMAI V KALPANA KALPAANA AUR> KETU SE

CHALNA PHIRNA, GAIRON SE MILNA MILANA YA HUKUM E KUDRATI KO > APNA HI KHUD BANANA...> > the main points of this farmaan are;> 1. brahspatJUPITER + soorajSUN = chandrMOON.> 2. garmiHEAT and chamakSHINE are shay of soorajSUN;> 3. mittiUPPER LAYER OF EARTH is the shay of shukkrVENUS;> 4. khaana peena DIGESTIVE SYSTEM is the shay of mangal;> 5. akalINTELLIGENCE and bolna bulanaCOMMUNICATION is the shay of > budhMERCURY;> 6. jaadu mantraMAGIC and dekhna dikhanaSIGHT is the shay of > shanicharSATURN;> 7. rahnumiFORETELLAR(torch bearer), kalpanaIMAGINATON and kalpaana > SELF PITY are the shay of rahu;> 8. chalna phirnaTRANSPORTATION; gairon se milna milanaCOMMUNICATION > WITH STRANGERS> i am not clear about the meaning of YA HUKUM E KUDRATI KO APNA HI KHUD > BANANA...kindly give ur views.> kulbir bains> > > >

> > > "Make light around you," said the fire.> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check outnew cars at Autos.>"Make light around you," said the fire.

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Dear Saleem,

 

Very well described answer indeed .As far as the word Kalpana and

Kalpaana is concerned, no doubt that the lexicon meanings you have

described are correct, but Kalpana can also be termed as Imagination

as mentioned by Sh. Nirmal Bhardwaj ji. Because Rahu is also known as

Deemaghi Lehar the mental waves, so anything related to the

imagination comes under its domain.

 

I am glad that this group has found a wise and intelligent devotee of

the revered Lal Kitab like you. I would like to tell to the group

members that Mr. Salim constantly remains in touch with me; he is so

devoted that he uses to ask many imprtant and relavant questions

relating to the book in general and its sanctity in particular, like.

 

- From where he should start learning/reading this book?

- What is the best way to learn it?

- What is the best time to read it?

- Whether it is correct to study this Holy Scripture after sunset?

- Whether the CD’s of this book can be distributed to other devotees

or not? And many other similar questions.

 

It is inspiring to know that he is following the directives verbatim.

I encouraged him to read it honestly with clearer heart. also assured

him every support from this august forum. I am visualizing the day

when this dedicated lad will emerge as the torchbearer of this divine

science in Pakistan.

 

God bless you

Yograj Prabhakar

 

 

, " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj "

<nirbhar wrote:

>

> Wah Wah, Excellent! Saleem Bhai,Accept my heartiest congratulations

> for your first post regarding subject.

> Indeed mission of Respected Prabhakar ji to provide reading

facility

> to all , is giving fruitful results.

> Yes , I agree that word 'kalpana' & 'kalpaana' is as described by

you.

> a'. Actually these are punjabi words and dictionary meanings are

>

> Kalapna- Dukh naal bolna, Kosna, khafa hona

> Kalpaana- Dukhi Karna,Khapauna

> *********

> Kalpna-imagination- in my view is of Rahu's Item. Gurujans, Please

> correct me if I wrong

> Weldone Saleem Bhai.

> Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

> , Navik <navik80@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbirbains,

> >

> > May be I am wrong, but in farmaan no.1 it is not hindi word

> kalapna( Imagination), We use this word kalapna in Urdu as well as

in

> Punjabi, which means to face some problem from someone/something Or

> put someone in problem, mentally or physically.

> > Kalpana mean bother hona and Kalpaana mean dosray ko bother

> kerna.

> > for example we say often Yaar main garmi main 2 hours kalapta

> reha magar aap ka ghar nahin mila.

> >

> > YA HUKUM -E- KUDRTI KO APNA HI KHUD BANANA SAB KAY SAB BAND

> PARAY THAY ...

> >

> > Is ka matlab hai... kudrat ki traraf say jo taqdeer (Hukum_e_

> kudriti) likhi gyee thi is bahcay nay us per amal (Act) nahin kia

tha

> (sab kay sab band paray thay) becasue when this child will act

> according to his destiny ( hukum_e_kudriti) Then all act will

> deposited to his own account mean ( Hukum_e_kudriti ko apna hi khud

> banana).

> >

> > I am reading lalkitaabs first time in my life so may be I am

> wrorng so If I am wrong please ignor my mistake.

> >

> > Thanks with regrads

> >

> > kulbirbains <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > AKASH ME ZAMANE KI HAA KA MALIK BRAHSPAT THA JISME

GARMI

> KE BHANDARI

> > SOORAJ KI CHAMAK SE CHANDR KE PAANI AUR

> > SHUKKR KI MITTI KE BAAD MANGAL KA KHANA - PEENA,

> > BUDH KI AKAL V BOLNA BULANA,

> > SHANICHAR KA JAADU MANTRA AUR DEKHNA DIKHANA,

> > RAHU KI RAHNUMAI V KALPANA KALPAANA AUR

> > KETU SE CHALNA PHIRNA, GAIRON SE MILNA MILANA YA HUKUM E KUDRATI

KO

> > APNA HI KHUD BANANA...

> >

> > the main points of this farmaan are;

> > 1. brahspatJUPITER + soorajSUN = chandrMOON.

> > 2. garmiHEAT and chamakSHINE are shay of soorajSUN;

> > 3. mittiUPPER LAYER OF EARTH is the shay of shukkrVENUS;

> > 4. khaana peena DIGESTIVE SYSTEM is the shay of mangal;

> > 5. akalINTELLIGENCE and bolna bulanaCOMMUNICATION is the shay of

> > budhMERCURY;

> > 6. jaadu mantraMAGIC and dekhna dikhanaSIGHT is the shay of

> > shanicharSATURN;

> > 7. rahnumiFORETELLAR(torch bearer), kalpanaIMAGINATON and

kalpaana

> > SELF PITY are the shay of rahu;

> > 8. chalna phirnaTRANSPORTATION; gairon se milna

milanaCOMMUNICATION

> > WITH STRANGERS

> > i am not clear about the meaning of YA HUKUM E KUDRATI KO APNA HI

> KHUD

> > BANANA...kindly give ur views.

> > kulbir bains

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " Make light around you, " said the fire.

> >

> >

> >

> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> >

>

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ACCEPT MY HEARTIEST CONGRATULATION FOR YOUR ITERPERTATION.AFTER A LONG I HAVE SEEN ON NET A REPLY GIVEN BY HEART NOT BY BRAIN,WHICH IS ONLY METHOD TO READ THIS GRANTH. MAY GOD MAINTAIN THIS SIMPLICITY & PURITY. THANKS AGAIN Navik <navik80 wrote: Janab nirmal Kumar bhardwaj sahib , thanks for appriciate me... RegardsNirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar >

wrote: Wah Wah, Excellent! Saleem Bhai,Accept my heartiest congratulations for your first post regarding subject.Indeed mission of Respected Prabhakar ji to provide reading facility to all , is giving fruitful results. Yes , I agree that word 'kalpana' & 'kalpaana' is as described by you.a'. Actually these are punjabi words and dictionary meanings areKalapna- Dukh naal bolna, Kosna, khafa honaKalpaana- Dukhi Karna,Khapauna*********Kalpna-imagination- in my view is of Rahu's Item. Gurujans, Please correct me if I wrongWeldone Saleem Bhai. Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj , Navik <navik80 wrote:>> Dear Kulbirbains,> > May be I am wrong, but in farmaan no.1 it is not

hindi word kalapna( Imagination), We use this word kalapna in Urdu as well as in Punjabi, which means to face some problem from someone/something Or put someone in problem, mentally or physically. > Kalpana mean bother hona and Kalpaana mean dosray ko bother kerna. > for example we say often Yaar main garmi main 2 hours kalapta reha magar aap ka ghar nahin mila.> > YA HUKUM -E- KUDRTI KO APNA HI KHUD BANANA SAB KAY SAB BAND PARAY THAY ...> > Is ka matlab hai... kudrat ki traraf say jo taqdeer (Hukum_e_ kudriti) likhi gyee thi is bahcay nay us per amal (Act) nahin kia tha (sab kay sab band paray thay) becasue when this child will act according to his destiny ( hukum_e_kudriti) Then all act will deposited to his own account mean ( Hukum_e_kudriti ko apna hi khud banana).> > I am reading lalkitaabs first time in my life so may be I am wrorng so If I am wrong please

ignor my mistake.> > Thanks with regrads> > kulbirbains <kulbirbains wrote:> AKASH ME ZAMANE KI HAA KA MALIK BRAHSPAT THA JISME GARMI KE BHANDARI > SOORAJ KI CHAMAK SE CHANDR KE PAANI AUR > SHUKKR KI MITTI KE BAAD MANGAL KA KHANA - PEENA, > BUDH KI AKAL V BOLNA BULANA, > SHANICHAR KA JAADU MANTRA AUR DEKHNA DIKHANA, > RAHU KI RAHNUMAI V KALPANA KALPAANA AUR> KETU SE CHALNA PHIRNA, GAIRON SE MILNA MILANA YA HUKUM E KUDRATI KO > APNA HI KHUD BANANA...> > the main points of this farmaan are;> 1. brahspatJUPITER + soorajSUN = chandrMOON.> 2. garmiHEAT and chamakSHINE are shay of soorajSUN;> 3. mittiUPPER LAYER OF EARTH is the shay of shukkrVENUS;> 4. khaana peena DIGESTIVE SYSTEM is the shay of mangal;> 5. akalINTELLIGENCE and bolna bulanaCOMMUNICATION is the shay of > budhMERCURY;> 6. jaadu mantraMAGIC and

dekhna dikhanaSIGHT is the shay of > shanicharSATURN;> 7. rahnumiFORETELLAR(torch bearer), kalpanaIMAGINATON and kalpaana > SELF PITY are the shay of rahu;> 8. chalna phirnaTRANSPORTATION; gairon se milna milanaCOMMUNICATION > WITH STRANGERS> i am not clear about the meaning of YA HUKUM E KUDRATI KO APNA HI KHUD > BANANA...kindly give ur views.> kulbir bains> > > > > > > "Make light around you," said the fire.> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check outnew cars at Autos.> "Make light around you," said the fire. Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos.

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