Pitri Rin

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Respected Nirbhar ji, I still maintain that the example given, starting with the word ‘maslan’ has nothing to do with Pitri Rin combinations or placements. To prove my point let me take the example of Rahu in the 11th house. Let us see whether Rahu in the 11th house can cause Pitri Rin after assessing it across the three conditions laid down for Pitri Rin. Lal Kitab prescribes three conditions of ‘Pitri Rin’. Remember all the three conditions have to be fulfilled before a Pitri Rin is declared. Condition # 1 : { ghar nauve ho grah koi baitha budh baitha jar sathi ho} Any planet placed in the 9th house and if mercury is placed in the ‘jar’ of that planet, it would indicate Pitri Rin provided two other conditions are also fulfilled. Rahu in the 11th house does not qualify as a ‘Pitri Rin’ giving planet under this

condition. Condition # 2 : { saathi grah jab jar koi kaate, drishti magar woh chhupata ho} For Rahu the book gives “ rahu khana 6 se baahar aur khana 12 surya, shukra,mangal } Now if Rahu is in the 11th house and at the same time if either of surya, shukra or mangal are the 12th house, it will indicate a ‘Pitri Rin’. Yes, in the above case placement of Rahu in the 11th house will indicate ‘Pitri Rin’ with the condition that one of the three planets should be in the 12th house and at the same time the other two conditions are also fulfilled. Since Rahu in the 11th house has not qualified the condition # 1 , and

qualifying condition # 2 is again based on further conditions, therefore Rahu in the 11th house per se doesn’t qualify under this condition. Condition # 3 { 5,12,2,9 koi manda rin pitra ban jata ho} In the pakka houses of Jupiter if there is an enemy planets of Jupiter { merc, venus, rahu } then it will indicate a ‘pitri rin’ provided other two conditions are

also fulfilled. Rahu placed in the 11th house does not qualify under this condition. Therefore it is proved beyond doubt that Rahu in the 11th house per se can not cause ‘Pitri Rin’ unless all the three conditions are fulfilled. The same exercise can be done for other planetary placements mentioned in the sentence beginning with ‘maslan’… and you will know that the placements given do not fulfill the conditions of ‘Pitri Rin’ Therefore my difference with Respected Prabhakar ji and you stands. Here once again I differ from Respected Prabhakar

ji’s contention that “Pitri Rin†is a very important factor to be noted. I agree with Lalkitabee ji who said that ‘Pitri Rin’ is a very rare occurrence . Even Pt. Roopchandji { peace be upon him} has said: “ uljhan ke grah … jin ki yada kada hi aavashyakta paregi ya aisi

grah chal jiske dekhe bagair hi kaam chal sakega†Had ‘Pitri Rin’ been so common and important pt. Roopchand ji { peace be upon him} would not have said “ jis ke dekhe bagair hi kaam chal sakega†With regards and naman, Chandra Prakash

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