35 Saala Chakker

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Dear Members,

 

I wanted to know that in 35 years circulation, first cycle is

sani 1-6

rahu 7-12

ketu 13-15

bhrishpati 16-21

surya 22-23

chandra 24

shukra 25-27

mangal 28-33

budh 34-35

And again this cycle repeats.

 

(a)Is this cycle is correct as per LK

(b)is this cycle is fixed for every chart as per LK.

(b) If different how it can be calculated and works.

 

 

In Lal-Kitab Goswami and Vashisth Pg 78 point (e) states that // Full account of 35 years circulation is incorporated in the matrix for ANNUAL CHARTS// what does it clearly means.

 

Learned Members please throw light on my query.

 

Thanks,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel.

 

 

 

Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:58:10 +0500 Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nk41 minutes (Answers and case study) - Further ClarificationRespected Jay Ji,I have gone through your this 'Dasha System'. Although it is not a part of the LalKitab, but is is to be taken as you are insisting it to be the part of the LalKitab Dasha System. The members may have to keep the HTML view option to see this mail clearly.I understood your calculation system and there is a one year error in your calulation. The words in red are written by me. JAY EXAMPLE Details are 2nd June 80 21:25 Bikaner(Rajasthan) Sunrise 05:43am. Calculations of dasa isDifference between Sunrise and time of birth is 942 min.942/41 = 22.9 i.e. 23rd year running Saturn period devided as followRahu 0-2, Mercury 3-4, Saturn 5-6, Brihspati 0-6 , Sun 7-8, Moon 9th , Venus 10th -12, Mars 13th -18, Mercury 19-20, Saturn 21,22.9,22.9 to 23,24,25,26Balance Saturn Dasa as per your calculation should be Saturn 1 to 3 Years and one month approx. A complete 11 month gapIgnore One Month and New Cycle shall be as follow at start Ist yaer is going for Saturn-Mercury, 2nd & 3rd will be of Saturn-Saturn.Dasa sequence would beNew Sequence1-4 = Saturn1-31980-8305-10 = Rahu4-984-8911-13 = Ketu10-1290-9214-19 = Jupiter13-1893-9820-21 = Sun19-2099-200022 = Moon212001 full year23-25 = Venus22-2402-0426-31 = Mars25-3005-1032-33 = Mercury31-32011-01234-39 = Saturn33-38013-018 Here are the facts about the native.Kindly Explain the querry in redTall, fair, thin, handsome, philanthropic, severe joint and spine pain from childhood, insomniac, mentally and physically restless, deformed denture, good orator and writer, creative and silently aggressive, ambitious, tends to be depressed soon. Has always been leader wherever went, office or college/school but always feels lonely and insecure.Sister next to him and brother next to sister. Sister is better after marriage in Dec 03.(Please correlate all the above interpretations with your dasha system) Events of life:Period from 15 to 19th year was golden period of his life though 19th was mixed one as he suffered physically, also in15th.Had great respect in his school and family in this period.Education stopped in '99-2000 and still not started(Why ?this is the period of sun as per your version why sun stopped the education).All efforts to start a career were in vein from Aug '99 till March '03.(Why ? This period belonged to Sun Moon & Venus, why they hinder his career)Got first break in career in May '03.(Why, It is VenusMain-Mars Sub),Incidentally company was biggest in the world in its category.Got offer of thrice of the salary and added perks in Apr '04 and switched job.From June '05 onwards not keeping good health.Resigned from job in Aug '05 (It is Mars Period,Why Mars prompted the resignation).Still unemployed.Father was admitted in Sep 05 (It is Mars Period again,Why Mars made father ill) for some severe intestinal problem. Currently is under debt of 40k+ ( It is there due to natal chart)which is highest in his life as he says.Here is everything before you all to criticize so that it could develop further or appreciate so one feels satisfied and motivated for his efforts put in despite of professional and personal commitments.I hope I would be corrected wherever I am wrong so that road to further development is not blocked and criticised in a way which is anything but offending or smelling inflated ego.I shall remain thankful for this.Awaiting sweet'n'sour replies, Dear Jay Ji, I fear, the pricipal of justification may be applied here in your example.Best regards. Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj nk 2006-01-31

 

Jai Nahata <nahata_jay wrote: Dear Bhatia ji and friends, It was heartening to see some good responses and faith but some replies also did hurt as I always believe "one should know something fully before criticising". Here in I am clarifying most of the questions raised by learned members.These are only the answers as we all know the questions. i) First and foremost I thank Bhatia ji for finding me capable to devise a dasa of my own but disappointingly I confess my complete inability to do anything even near to it. ii) Secondly it is not Yogini dasa or transformed version of it. iii) Sir, be assured that I am experienced and rational enough so as not to drive a petrol car with diesel in it.Thats to say I never mix any two systems as each has its own set of principles but I always like to compare one with another as this gives a better and holistic approach.In this manner one gets able to criticise or appreciate a system better.Moreover criticism is best tool to refine something or someone."Failure or criticism(healthy) are the real teachers".I hope everybody would agree to this. iv) Coming back to origin of dasa.May I request you all to refer to following pages of the books. Lal Kitab(Vasist & Goswami) Pg. no.73. Point (a) Pg. no.73. "Intermediary planets(sub division) Arun Samhita Pg.no. 8. Line just next to table "Grahon ki avadhi" Now another set of reference but it will serve another part as you will comprehend. Lal KItab(Vasist & Goswami) Pg. no.210. 2nd para."Venus period starting/ending at the age of 17"(?) Arun Samhita Pg. no. 66. ----do--- Here kindly note that this example is not of Varshphal (though it is in chapter of the same) but of lost horoscopy which is again natal itself, if I may say so. v) Here I am providing a real life case study from my collection.Here I may add that this system got my attention some time back only but I am working on it with all my devotion and lets see whether it ends as a worthless errand or something really great. Initially it has shown signs of being great and I hope will continue to do so. Details are 2nd June 80 21:25 Bikaner(Rajasthan) Sunrise 05:43am. Planetary positions are following Moon-Ketu in 2nd Sun in 6th Mer-Ven in 7th Rahu in 8th Ju-Mars-Sat in 9th Calculations of dasa is Difference between Sunrise and time of birth is 942 min. 942/41 = 22.9 i.e. 23rd year running Dasa sequence would be 1-4 = Saturn 05-10 = Rahu 11-13 = Ketu 14-19 = Jupiter 20-21 = Sun 22 = Moon 23-25 = Venus 26-31 = Mars 32-33 = Mercury 34-39 = Saturn Here are the facts about the native. Tall, fair, thin, handsome, philanthropic, severe joint and spine pain from childhood, insomniac, mentally and physically restless, deformed denture, good orator and writer, creative and silently aggresive, ambitious, tends to be depressed soon.Has always been leader wherever went, office or college/school but always feels lonely and insecure. Sister next to him and brother next to sister.Sister is better after marriage in Dec 03. Events of life: Period from 15 to 19th year was golden period of his life though 19th was mixed one as he suffered physically,also in15th.Had great respect in his school and family in this period. Education stopped in '99-2000 and still not started. All efforts to start a career were in vein from Aug '99 till March '03. Got first break in career in May '03.Incidentally company was biggest in the world in its category. Got offer of thrice of the salary and added perks in Apr '04 and switched job. From June '05 onwards not keeping good health.Resigned from job in Aug '05.Still unemployed.Father was admitted in Sep 05 for some severe intestinal problem.Currently is under debt of 40k+ which is highest in his life as he says. Here is everything before you all to criticise so that it could develop further or appreciate so one feels satisfied and motivated for his efforts put in despite of professional and personal commitments. I hope I would be corrected wherever I am wrong so that road to further development is not blocked and criticised in a way which is anything but offending or smelling inflated ego.I shall remain thankful for this. Awaiting sweet'n'sour replies, Best regards Jai

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Respected Vijay Ji,

Lal Kitab is a ocean and I am a novice in this field.I can only give

my opinion regarding your querries, that is in Capitals.

YOUR QUERRY:

I wanted to know that in 35 years circulation, first cycle is

sani 1-6

rahu 7-12

ketu 13-15

bhrishpati 16-21

surya 22-23

chandra 24

shukra 25-27

mangal 28-33

budh 34-35

And again this cycle repeats.

 

(a)Is this cycle is correct as per LK

 

THE CYCLE IS CORRECT AND REPEAT

 

(b)is this cycle is fixed for every chart as per LK.

 

THIS CYCLE IS USED MOST OF THE ASTROLOGERS IN TOTO AND IS EFFECTIVE IN

GENERAL.BUT THE BOOK HAS PRONOUNCED SEVERAL OTHER CYCLES THAT STARTS

WITH RESPECT TO PARTICULAR CONDITIONS ALTHOUGH THE PERIOD OF PLANET

REMAIN THE SAME.(JUPITER-6YEARS, SUN - 2 YEARS, MOON 1 YEAR, VENUS 3

YEARS... SO ON IN THE SAME SEQUENCE AS YOU HAVE DESCRIBED ABOVE).THE

DIFFERENCE IS THE PLANET FROM WHICH THE CYCLE CAN BE STARTED.

 

(b) If different how it can be calculated and works.

 

ANSWER OF THIS QUESTION IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF MY STUDIES, I CARRIED

OUT TILL TO DATE.SEVERAL VERSIONS ARE FOUND, BUT THE FINAL CONCLUSIONS

STILL ELUDING US.

ANY EXPERIENCE MEMBER CAN GIVE HIS OPINION.

 

In Lal-Kitab Goswami and Vashisth Pg 78 point (e) states that // Full

account of 35 years circulation is incorporated in the matrix for

ANNUAL CHARTS// what does it clearly means.

 

I HAVE NOT ACCESSED THIS BOOK.

 

The fragrance of studying the original book is unique, my suggestion

to the members is to learn urdu and read Original Texts

Regards

Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj