My contribution-some queries

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Dear friends, Here is someone who is illiterate at Urdu but wants to contribute to the divine cause of development and refinement of Lal Kitab. How in all the possible manners can I contribute ? Here I am posting some queries which I believe could contribute any little to the group. i) What is the systematic procedure of the analysis of a chart through this system. For instance if I have to analyse someone's education. ii) In absence of Bhavat Bhavam principle how can we predict about various relatives of the native and their possible destinies as it is possible with Parashari ? iii) Lal Kitab takes in consideration only Rasi chart which is applicable for around 120 minutes of time. How can we possibly differentiate between two people born with a negligible difference in time but of destinies.It is quite an experienced fact that divisional charts are desperately needed for accurate results.Plz explain. I shall

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Dear Jay Ji,

I am not so much experienced to give the answer of this difficult

question. May!I, be able to give the complete answer after few years

However I will try to give the reply as per my little experience.

Few Vedic astrologer have tried to give systemetric appraoch for

interpretion in Jyotish,I don't know anybody tried it in Lal Kitab.

The vedic system is made so much complex by our predecessors that it

is difficult to understand the basic sutras. In my opinion, the most

of the present Vedic astrologers are better for doing the postmortem

of an event rather than producing the effective interpretion, They

have just made it a " justification astrology " .

But it is not with the LalKitab. Its basic principles are run side by

side our life, our daytoday routine, our behaviour with friends,

family ,relative and nature,Our eating habits and our Aachaar & Vichaars.

The percentage wise breakup of topics and the knowledge of LalKitab.

One can rate himself about the interpretation capabilities. This

percentages are give only as per my own perceptions. The individual

capabilities, Gaibi Kripa and Guru Kripa will rule over and above

these percentages.

1. The properties of Pakka Khana---- 10%

2. The properties of Planets alone & with conjunction --- 20%

3. The grammer portion of the LalKitab which include the different

type of Aspects and there nature of effects, Inter-relativity of

planets with planets & Pakke Ghar Vs Pakke ghar, 35 Sala Chakkar,Varsh

Phal,age of planets and Khanas Mahaan Dasha, Rashi number ke bolne

wale grah.12 sala Dhoke ka Chakkar, GrahPhal & RashiPhal and their

relationship with respect of remediial measures. etc etc. -- 50%

4. Samudrik Part of LalKitab --- 20%

You can see that number 3 has the maximum value.

In my opinion, If an astrologer cannot master the topics at number 3 & 4

,he should not go for prediction part.

I know that above is not an answer to your question, but when you read

the LalKitab preferably with the help of the punjabi person with a

total rural back ground and a LalKitab Guru, you will find all the

answers earliest.

Regards

Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj

 

, Jai Nahata <nahata_jay> wrote:

>

> Dear friends,

> Here is someone who is illiterate at Urdu but wants to contribute

to the divine cause of development and refinement of Lal Kitab. How

in all the possible manners can I contribute ?

> Here I am posting some queries which I believe could contribute

any little to the group.

>

> i) What is the systematic procedure of the analysis of a chart

through this system. For instance if I have to analyse someone's

education.

> ii) In absence of Bhavat Bhavam principle how can we predict about

various relatives of the native and their possible destinies as it is

possible with Parashari ?

> iii) Lal Kitab takes in consideration only Rasi chart which is

applicable for around 120 minutes of time. How can we possibly

differentiate between two people born with a negligible difference in

time but of destinies.It is quite an experienced fact that divisional

charts are desperately needed for accurate results.Plz explain.

>

> I shall post some more queries once these are answered.

> I would also like to contribute in more than one manner if I am

found capable enough.

> Thank you all,

>

> Best regards

>

> Jai

>

>

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Mr.Jay Nahata,

I presume that you are trying to confuse the people who are engaged in a totally humane cause by decoding the mysteries of this great book known as "LAL-KITAB". Rather appreciating the work they are doing you are trying to confuse the group which was formed solely for the purpose of decoding the mysteries of "LAL-KITAB", hence I shall humbly request you that do not intermingle this system with PARASHARI. Here I ask you one question can you apply the rules in JAIMINI astrology which have been defined in PARASHARI and there are so many systems being practiced by astrologers as per their convenience viz. Mr.Irangati Rangachari of Hyderabad makes all predictions using Jaimini system only with out touching a single portion of PARASHARI.

I have a doubt in my mind that the conjunction of the MOON and Jupiter does not give rise to so called Gaj Kesari yoga. What is your opinion? I shall be obliged if you can solve this riddle.

It is my humble request Mr.Jay,please cooperate with the proceedings of the group.

Best Regards,

Dr.Amar Aggarwal,

Moblie:09814002574

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Jai Nahata

01/18/06 17:56:57

 

My contribution-some queries

 

Dear friends,Here is someone who is illiterate at Urdu but wants to contribute to the divine cause of development and refinement of Lal Kitab. How in all the possible manners can I contribute ?Here I am posting some queries which I believe could contribute any little to the group.i) What is the systematic procedure of the analysis of a chart through this system. For instance if I have to analyse someone's education.ii) In absence of Bhavat Bhavam principle how can we predict about various relatives of the native and their possible destinies as it is possible with Parashari ?iii) Lal Kitab takes in consideration only Rasi chart which is applicable for around 120 minutes of time. How can we possibly differentiate between two people born with a negligible difference in time but of destinies.It is quite an experienced fact that divisional charts are desperately needed for accurate results.Plz explain.I shall post some more queries once these are answered.I would also like to contribute in more than one manner if I am found capable enough.Thank you all,Best regardsJai

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Mr.Amar Agarwal, First of all I strongly protest aginst your strong and derogatory language for me and I would also like to bring this to the notice of the moderators/owner. Secondly regarding creation of confusion I am shocked to read such a thing.Common sense says that there will be no day without night, no white if there is no black to compare with.So as per you GOD has created a great confusion.Isn't it ? Mr. Agarwal you know nothing about me. Mr.Bhatia knows me quite well and he could shed some light on my credentials.Its a known fact that I am not purist and take everything on its merit and applicability.Same applies to LK also.Here I would also like to ask the respected moderator and owner that is it only a purist's group. In that case I shall have to leave the group immediately as I have a research bent of mind and does not mind criticise something if logical and reasonable.I simply does not believe

in making anything a thing of superstition especially something as sacred and useful as astrology. Now coming to your words about different sytems of Astrology especially JAIMINI AND PARASHARI.Here may I request you to atleast once go through the classics before commenting so stongly about it.Whole of the Jaimini system is a part and parcel of the Vedic Astrology and thus Parashari itself.Mahirishi Jaimini did a great job by collecting various very important concepts of Vedic astrology(there is nothing like Parashari or Jaimini astrology).You could find all the concepts of Jaimini system in Brihat Parashar Hora Shastra, monumental classic of Maharishi Parashar. Atleast once go through it. Infact you would find a lot of systems in it including Ashtakvarga, Kotachakra, Sanghattachakra, Sarvatobhadra Chakra,etc. Which system is being used by whom is entirely dependant on someone's knowledge of that system and comfort level.Here saying this system is

superior or inferior is insulting great seers.Every system has its own distinct set of rules, advantages, disadvantages,etc. So one needs to be rational not stubborn. Regarding your question of Gajkesari yoga I am for the first time declining to answer a question of astrology cause it is not asked to learn but to humilate that I strongly protest. Lastly Mr.Agarwal a humble suggestion to you that know someone and something fully before saying anything cause you might end up hurting soemone from whom you could have gained a lot. Remember none is perfect but one must try to be as refined as possible. I hope you would take back your words and realise your mistake. Best regards Jai "Dr.Amar Aggarwal" <amar_agg wrote: Mr.Jay Nahata, I presume that you are trying to confuse the people who are engaged in a totally humane cause by decoding the mysteries of this great book known as "LAL-KITAB". Rather appreciating the work they are doing you are trying to confuse the group which was formed solely for the purpose of decoding the mysteries of "LAL-KITAB", hence I shall humbly request you that do not intermingle this system with PARASHARI. Here I ask you one question can you apply the rules in JAIMINI astrology which have been defined in PARASHARI and

there are so many systems being practiced by astrologers as per their convenience viz. Mr.Irangati Rangachari of Hyderabad makes all predictions using Jaimini system only with out touching a single portion of PARASHARI. I have a doubt in my mind that the conjunction of the MOON and Jupiter does not give rise to so called Gaj Kesari yoga. What is your opinion? I shall be obliged if you can solve this riddle. It is my humble request Mr.Jay,please cooperate with the proceedings of the group. Best Regards, Dr.Amar Aggarwal, Moblie:09814002574 ---- Jai Nahata 01/18/06 17:56:57 My contribution-some queries Dear friends,Here is someone who is illiterate at Urdu but wants to contribute to the divine cause of development and refinement of Lal Kitab. How in all the possible manners can I contribute ?Here I am posting some queries which I believe could contribute any little to the group.i) What is the systematic procedure of the analysis of a chart through this system. For instance if I have to analyse someone's education.ii) In absence of Bhavat Bhavam principle how can we predict about various relatives of the native and their possible destinies as it is possible with Parashari ?iii) Lal Kitab takes in consideration only

Rasi chart which is applicable for around 120 minutes of time. How can we possibly differentiate between two people born with a negligible difference in time but of destinies.It is quite an experienced fact that divisional charts are desperately needed for accurate results.Plz explain.I shall post some more queries once these are answered.I would also like to contribute in more than one manner if I am found capable enough.Thank you all,Best regardsJai Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger. Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.

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Mr.Jay Nahata,

There is nothing derogatory and I never thought of humiliating you or any other member of this group. Their was neither any intention. What ever I wrote it was part and parcel of your intermingling the theory of Bhavat Bhavam with LAL-KITAB Astrology. Further you have mentioned that Jaimini is a part and parcel of Parashari, now a question arises here and that is up to what extent? Like LAL-KITAB in which Pt.Roop Chand Jee has confined to 12 houses, 12 Signs and 9 planets as far as the role of Parashari is concerned so is the case of Jaimini other wise principles of Jaimini are totally different. I just intervened because this group is solely indulged in resolving the mysteries of LAL-KITAB only hence every body a member or non member should contribute to the group what ever they can but at the same time they should refrain mixing Parashari with LAL-KITAB. I need not to approach Mr.Rajinder Bhatia to Know about you or any body else since I have great regards for the members of the group and any body associated with Astrology(Any Branch).

If one is engaged in some type of discussion he should always be prepared for criticism also:

"Dil barha chahiye khudkushi ke liye"

Dr.Amar Aggarwal

 

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Jai Nahata

01/25/06 14:20:50

 

Re: My contribution-some queries

 

Mr.Amar Agarwal,

 

First of all I strongly protest aginst your strong and derogatory language for me and I would also like to bring this to the notice of the moderators/owner.

Secondly regarding creation of confusion I am shocked to read such a thing.Common sense says that there will be no day without night, no white if there is no black to compare with.So as per you GOD has created a great confusion.Isn't it ? Mr. Agarwal you know nothing about me. Mr.Bhatia knows me quite well and he could shed some light on my credentials.Its a known fact that I am not purist and take everything on its merit and applicability.Same applies to LK also.Here I would also like to ask the respected moderator and owner that is it only a purist's group. In that case I shall have to leave the group immediately as I have a research bent of mind and does not mind criticise something if logical and reasonable.I simply does not believe in making anything a thing of superstition especially something as sacred and useful as astrology.

Now coming to your words about different sytems of Astrology especially JAIMINI AND PARASHARI.Here may I request you to atleast once go through the classics before commenting so stongly about it.Whole of the Jaimini system is a part and parcel of the Vedic Astrology and thus Parashari itself.Mahirishi Jaimini did a great job by collecting various very important concepts of Vedic astrology(there is nothing like Parashari or Jaimini astrology).You could find all the concepts of Jaimini system in Brihat Parashar Hora Shastra, monumental classic of Maharishi Parashar. Atleast once go through it. Infact you would find a lot of systems in it including Ashtakvarga, Kotachakra, Sanghattachakra, Sarvatobhadra Chakra,etc. Which system is being used by whom is entirely dependant on someone's knowledge of that system and comfort level.Here saying this system is superior or inferior is insulting great seers.Every system has its own distinct set of rules, advantages, disadvantages,etc. So one needs to be rational not stubborn.

Regarding your question of Gajkesari yoga I am for the first time declining to answer a question of astrology cause it is not asked to learn but to humilate that I strongly protest.

Lastly Mr.Agarwal a humble suggestion to you that know someone and something fully before saying anything cause you might end up hurting soemone from whom you could have gained a lot. Remember none is perfect but one must try to be as refined as possible.

I hope you would take back your words and realise your mistake.

 

Best regards

 

Jai

 

"Dr.Amar Aggarwal" <amar_agg wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mr.Jay Nahata,

I presume that you are trying to confuse the people who are engaged in a totally humane cause by decoding the mysteries of this great book known as "LAL-KITAB". Rather appreciating the work they are doing you are trying to confuse the group which was formed solely for the purpose of decoding the mysteries of "LAL-KITAB", hence I shall humbly request you that do not intermingle this system with PARASHARI. Here I ask you one question can you apply the rules in JAIMINI astrology which have been defined in PARASHARI and there are so many systems being practiced by astrologers as per their convenience viz. Mr.Irangati Rangachari of Hyderabad makes all predictions using Jaimini system only with out touching a single portion of PARASHARI.

I have a doubt in my mind that the conjunction of the MOON and Jupiter does not give rise to so called Gaj Kesari yoga. What is your opinion? I shall be obliged if you can solve this riddle.

It is my humble request Mr.Jay,please cooperate with the proceedings of the group.

Best Regards,

Dr.Amar Aggarwal,

Moblie:09814002574

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Jai Nahata

01/18/06 17:56:57

 

My contribution-some queries

 

Dear friends,Here is someone who is illiterate at Urdu but wants to contribute to the divine cause of development and refinement of Lal Kitab. How in all the possible manners can I contribute ?Here I am posting some queries which I believe could contribute any little to the group.i) What is the systematic procedure of the analysis of a chart through this system. For instance if I have to analyse someone's education.ii) In absence of Bhavat Bhavam principle how can we predict about various relatives of the native and their possible destinies as it is possible with Parashari ?iii) Lal Kitab takes in consideration only Rasi chart which is applicable for around 120 minutes of time. How can we possibly differentiate between two people born with a negligible difference in time but of destinies.It is quite an experienced fact that divisional charts are desperately needed for accurate results.Plz explain.I shall post some more queries once these are answered.I would also like to contribute in more than one manner if I am found capable enough.Thank you all,Best regardsJai

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Mr.Aggarwal, May I request you once again to go through BPHS before putting any comment on Jaimini and Parashari. It will do you immense good. Believe me this is a very friendly advice with all positive meanings. Secondly I am more than ready for criticism (and it is also well known by those who know me) but only by those who are capable of criticising me and not by everyone. Plz remember it ! Here I am not doubting your or anyone credentials but know my strengths also. Third I believe this sort of conversations between anyone is not serving any purpose to the divine cause for what we all are here. If you need to argue with me I would welcome you but not in this forum cause I respect this place a lot and would like to maintain its decorum at any cost.So you are requested to write personally if you want to argue.Believe me debates can be very learning if and only if it is done with respect towards the person. Please

reconsider and accept my requests for which I shall remain thankful to you. Best regards Jai "Dr.Amar Aggarwal" <amar_agg wrote: Mr.Jay Nahata, There is nothing derogatory and I never thought of humiliating you or any other member of this group. Their was neither any intention. What ever I wrote it was part and parcel of your intermingling the theory of Bhavat Bhavam with LAL-KITAB Astrology. Further you have mentioned that Jaimini is a part and parcel of Parashari, now a question arises here and that is up to what extent? Like LAL-KITAB in which Pt.Roop Chand Jee has confined to 12 houses, 12 Signs and 9 planets as far as the role of Parashari is concerned so is the case of Jaimini other wise principles of Jaimini are totally different. I just intervened because this group is solely indulged in

resolving the mysteries of LAL-KITAB only hence every body a member or non member should contribute to the group what ever they can but at the same time they should refrain mixing Parashari with LAL-KITAB. I need not to approach Mr.Rajinder Bhatia to Know about you or any body else since I have great regards for the members of the group and any body associated with Astrology(Any Branch). If one is engaged in some type of discussion he should always be prepared for criticism also: "Dil barha chahiye khudkushi ke liye" Dr.Amar Aggarwal ---- Jai Nahata 01/25/06 14:20:50 Re: My contribution-some queries Mr.Amar Agarwal, First of all I strongly protest aginst your strong and derogatory language for me and I would also like to bring this to the notice of the moderators/owner. Secondly regarding creation of confusion I am shocked to read such a thing.Common sense says that there will be no day without night, no white if there is no black to compare with.So as per you GOD has created a great confusion.Isn't it ? Mr. Agarwal you know nothing about me. Mr.Bhatia knows me quite well and he could shed some light on my credentials.Its a known fact that I am not purist and take everything on its merit and applicability.Same applies to LK

also.Here I would also like to ask the respected moderator and owner that is it only a purist's group. In that case I shall have to leave the group immediately as I have a research bent of mind and does not mind criticise something if logical and reasonable.I simply does not believe in making anything a thing of superstition especially something as sacred and useful as astrology. Now coming to your words about different sytems of Astrology especially JAIMINI AND PARASHARI.Here may I request you to atleast once go through the classics before commenting so stongly about it.Whole of the Jaimini system is a part and parcel of the Vedic Astrology and thus Parashari itself.Mahirishi Jaimini did a great job by collecting various very important concepts of Vedic astrology(there is nothing like Parashari or Jaimini astrology).You could find all the concepts of Jaimini system in Brihat Parashar Hora Shastra, monumental classic of Maharishi Parashar. Atleast once

go through it. Infact you would find a lot of systems in it including Ashtakvarga, Kotachakra, Sanghattachakra, Sarvatobhadra Chakra,etc. Which system is being used by whom is entirely dependant on someone's knowledge of that system and comfort level.Here saying this system is superior or inferior is insulting great seers.Every system has its own distinct set of rules, advantages, disadvantages,etc. So one needs to be rational not stubborn. Regarding your question of Gajkesari yoga I am for the first time declining to answer a question of astrology cause it is not asked to learn but to humilate that I strongly protest. Lastly Mr.Agarwal a humble suggestion to you that know someone and something fully before saying anything cause you might end up hurting soemone from whom you could have gained a lot. Remember none is perfect but one must try to be as refined as possible. I hope you would take back

your words and realise your mistake. Best regards Jai "Dr.Amar Aggarwal" <amar_agg wrote: Mr.Jay Nahata, I presume that you are trying to confuse the people who are engaged in a totally humane cause by decoding the mysteries of this great book known as "LAL-KITAB". Rather appreciating the work they are doing you are trying to confuse

the group which was formed solely for the purpose of decoding the mysteries of "LAL-KITAB", hence I shall humbly request you that do not intermingle this system with PARASHARI. Here I ask you one question can you apply the rules in JAIMINI astrology which have been defined in PARASHARI and there are so many systems being practiced by astrologers as per their convenience viz. Mr.Irangati Rangachari of Hyderabad makes all predictions using Jaimini system only with out touching a single portion of PARASHARI. I have a doubt in my mind that the conjunction of the MOON and Jupiter does not give rise to so called Gaj Kesari yoga. What is your opinion? I shall be obliged if you can solve this riddle. It is my humble request Mr.Jay,please cooperate with the proceedings of the group. Best Regards, Dr.Amar Aggarwal, Moblie:09814002574 ---- Jai Nahata 01/18/06 17:56:57 My contribution-some queries Dear friends,Here is someone who is illiterate at Urdu but wants to contribute to the divine cause of development and refinement of Lal Kitab. How in all the possible manners can I contribute ?Here I am posting some queries which I believe could contribute any little to the group.i) What is the systematic procedure of the analysis

of a chart through this system. For instance if I have to analyse someone's education.ii) In absence of Bhavat Bhavam principle how can we predict about various relatives of the native and their possible destinies as it is possible with Parashari ?iii) Lal Kitab takes in consideration only Rasi chart which is applicable for around 120 minutes of time. How can we possibly differentiate between two people born with a negligible difference in time but of destinies.It is quite an experienced fact that divisional charts are desperately needed for accurate results.Plz explain.I shall post some more queries once these are answered.I would also like to contribute in more than one manner if I am found capable enough.Thank you all,Best regardsJai Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger. Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.

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