Guest guest Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 Mistake in Budh Khana # 6 1952 Urdu ed : Page 558 budh in khana # 6 note # 12 , nek halat “ raj yog , zar daulat aur dharma maryada ka malik aur jageerdar hoga - # 1 mein brahaspati, suraj ya shanishchar ho” Arun Sanhita : Page 191 Budh in khana # 6 Nek halat , note # 12 “ raj yog , dhan aur maryada ka swami jageerdar hoga - jab khana # 1 mein surya ya brahaspati ya shani ho” Lal Kitab : Prashthabhoomi aur vyakhya Pt. Krishna Ashant Page #266 Budh chhate ghar mein “ budh no 6 ke samay khana # 1 mein surya , brahaspati ya shani ho to ye vyakti ke liye raj yog hoga jis se uski daulat , jageer-jaydad barhe gi” Lal Kitab { pratham khand } By Keshava Nand Bharti Budh khana # 6 Page 438 Note # 11 “ Raj yog , zar , daulat aur dharm maryada ka malik aur zageerdar hoga - # 1 mein brahaspati , suraj ya shanishchchar” 1952 Lal Kitab : Translated by G & V Page 528 Note # 3 Sun , Jupiter or Saturn in khana # 1 royal combination, one will be wealthy, have power, authority and immovable property Lal Kitab by R S Chiller Page # 260 Mercury in the 6th house “ If the mercury were in the 6th house and the Sun , Jupiter or Saturn occupies the 1st house; this shall be raj yog. The native’s wealth and property shall grow” Lal Kitab by UC Mahajan Mercury in the 6th house Page # 206 Sun or Jupiter or Saturn in 1st : Raj Yog ; rich ; religious minded ; traditionalist ; landlord. The original 1952 urdu edition of the Lal Kitab and all other subsequent books consistently maintain that when the Mercury is in the 6th house and if sun or Jupiter or Saturn happen to be in the 1st house , it forms a Raj yog etc. Now compare the above statements with the last line of the couplet for budh khana # 6 “ sooraj shani guru dooje baithe , jageer raja dhan bharhta ho” [ 52ed page 557, Arun sanhita 190} The introductory poem says if the sun , Jupiter or the Saturn are in the 2nd house , then ‘jageer raja dhan barhta ho’. The simple question is which of the two statements is correct. The initial statement where Pt. Roopchand Joshi clearly states that if either of these three planets is in the 2nd house then ‘jageer, raja, dhan barhta ho’ or the notes { or tippani } where the same result are said to occur if either of these planets is in the 1st house. I find the poetic line “ sooraj shani guru dooje baithe” to be correct and a misprint in the notes where it should be house # 2 instead of house # 1. My reasons for accepting the poetic line , and hence khana # 2 , to be correct are : { 1 }because the book further says, - “ khana # 2 ya shukra ki halat par budh ka aam asar hoga” - “ teve mein jab bhi koi grah uttam ho khaskar # 2 ke ; budh fauran usi ki nakal karega” { 2 } Pt Roop Chand Joshi has been consistent about khana # 2 . In 1939 Lal Kitab he says “ jaise grah khana # 2 ke honge , budh ab vaisa hi phal dega” { Arun Sanhita version page 199 } In the 1941 gutaka “ jaise grah khana # 2 ke honge budh ab vaisa hi phal dega { sirf nek arthon ke liye}” [ Arun sanhita version page 72 ] [ 3 ] Now let us further verify the position of the sun or the jupiter or Saturn in the 2nd house in the light of yet another line from the initial poetry. The line says, “ bhala guru shani sooraj baitha , yog raja zar mandir ho” Again the word ‘mandir’ could refer to the 2nd house. { it could also mean a temple , but the word mandir has been very often used for khana # 2} [ 4 ] Are these planets ‘ bhale’ in the 2nd house? Yes. It is the pakka ghar of Jupiter. Sun here would be in the pakka ghar of his friend and Saturn here is called as “ guru sharan … hasbe haisiat jeevan gujare, jeevit jab tak rahata ho” Therefore it is conclusively proved that either of these planets in the 2nd house will give the results which erroneously have been attributed to the 1st house in the notes . Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Respected Gurujans, I have a doubt about expected position of sun in khana no.1 or 2, when Budh is in Khana No.6. I understand that as Budh and Sun are close by and either they stay together or in neighbouring house only and therefore, when Budh is in Khana No.6, then Sun can never be in Khana No.1 or 2, in BASIC HOROSCOPE, as is discussed here for detecting mistake. For LK horoscope study, only rashi nos. are re-written starting from 'Lagn' (House No.1) as Khana No.1. However, when Sun & Budh are in neighboring houses, then in Varshphal only such possibility takes place when Budh is in Khana No.6, then Sun could be in Khana No.1 or2. Kindly clear my doubt. Thanks. M.R. GUPTA --- Varun Trivedi <varun_trvd wrote: > Mistake in > Budh Khana # 6 > > > > 1952 Urdu ed : Page 558 > budh in khana # 6 > note # 12 , nek halat > > “ raj yog , zar daulat aur dharma maryada ka malik > aur jageerdar hoga - # 1 mein brahaspati, suraj ya > shanishchar ho” > > > Arun Sanhita : Page 191 > Budh in khana # 6 > Nek halat , note # 12 > > “ raj yog , dhan aur maryada ka swami jageerdar > hoga > - jab khana # > 1 mein surya ya brahaspati ya shani ho” > > > Lal Kitab : Prashthabhoomi aur vyakhya > > Pt. Krishna Ashant > Page #266 > Budh chhate ghar mein > > “ budh no 6 ke samay khana # 1 mein surya , > brahaspati ya shani ho to ye vyakti ke liye raj yog > hoga jis se uski daulat , jageer-jaydad barhe gi” > > > > > Lal Kitab { pratham khand } By Keshava Nand Bharti > > Budh khana # 6 > > Page 438 > Note # 11 > > “ Raj yog , zar , daulat aur dharm maryada ka > malik aur zageerdar hoga - # 1 mein brahaspati , > suraj ya shanishchchar” > > > > 1952 Lal Kitab : Translated by G & V > Page 528 > > Note # 3 > Sun , Jupiter or Saturn in khana # 1 > > royal combination, one will be wealthy, have > power, authority > and immovable property > > > Lal Kitab by R S Chiller > Page # 260 > > Mercury in the 6th house > > “ If the mercury were in the 6th house and the Sun > , Jupiter or Saturn occupies the 1st house; this > shall be raj yog. The native’s wealth and property > shall grow” > > > Lal Kitab by UC Mahajan > > Mercury in the 6th house > > Page # 206 > > Sun or Jupiter or Saturn in 1st : Raj Yog ; rich > ; religious minded ; traditionalist ; landlord. > > > > The original 1952 urdu edition of the Lal Kitab > and all other subsequent books consistently maintain > that when the Mercury is in the 6th house and if sun > or Jupiter or Saturn happen to be in the 1st house , > it forms a Raj yog etc. > > Now compare the above statements with the last > line of the couplet for budh khana # 6 > > “ sooraj shani guru dooje baithe , jageer raja > dhan bharhta ho” [ 52ed page 557, Arun sanhita 190} > > The introductory poem says if the sun , Jupiter or > the Saturn are in the 2nd house , then ‘jageer raja > dhan barhta ho’. > > The simple question is which of the two statements > is correct. The initial statement where Pt. > Roopchand Joshi clearly states that if either of > these three planets is in the 2nd house then > ‘jageer, raja, dhan barhta ho’ or the notes { or > tippani } where the same result are said to occur if > either of these planets is in the 1st house. > > I find the poetic line “ sooraj shani guru dooje > baithe” to be correct and a misprint in the notes > where it should be house # 2 instead of house # 1. > > My reasons for accepting the poetic line , and > hence khana # 2 , to be correct are : > > { 1 }because the book further says, > - “ khana # 2 ya shukra ki halat par budh ka aam > asar hoga” > > - “ teve mein jab bhi koi grah uttam ho khaskar # > 2 ke ; budh fauran usi ki nakal karega” > > { 2 } Pt Roop Chand Joshi has been consistent > about khana # 2 . > > In 1939 Lal Kitab he says “ jaise grah khana # 2 > ke honge , budh ab vaisa hi phal dega” { Arun > Sanhita version page 199 } > > In the 1941 gutaka “ jaise grah khana # 2 ke honge > budh ab vaisa hi phal dega { sirf nek arthon ke > liye}” [ Arun sanhita version page 72 ] > > [ 3 ] Now let us further verify the position of > the sun or the jupiter or Saturn in the 2nd house in > the light of yet another line from the initial > poetry. The line says, > > “ bhala guru shani sooraj baitha , yog raja zar > mandir ho” > > Again the word ‘mandir’ could refer to the 2nd > house. { it could also mean a temple , but the word > mandir has been very often used for khana # 2} > > [ 4 ] Are these planets ‘ bhale’ in the 2nd house? > > Yes. It is the pakka ghar of Jupiter. Sun here > would be in the pakka ghar of his friend and Saturn > here is called as “ guru sharan … hasbe haisiat > jeevan gujare, jeevit jab tak rahata ho” > > Therefore it is conclusively proved that either of > these planets in the 2nd house will give the results > which erroneously have been attributed to the 1st > house in the notes . Send instant messages to your online friends > http://in.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Respected Members, Sh Varun has already left the group himself. The printing error he has pointed out is noted for the discussion and will be taken up during the discussion on Budh.Meanwhile we may concentrate ourselves to Pakka Khana 1 to 12. Any body can raise querries without hesitation regarding pakke ghar. May any one make a list of difficult words in the Gutka. We may try to solve their meaning. regards Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj , Varun Trivedi <varun_trvd> wrote: > > Mistake in Budh Khana # 6 > > > > 1952 Urdu ed : Page 558 > budh in khana # 6 > note # 12 , nek halat > > " raj yog , zar daulat aur dharma maryada ka malik aur jageerdar hoga - # 1 mein brahaspati, suraj ya shanishchar ho " > > > Arun Sanhita : Page 191 > Budh in khana # 6 > Nek halat , note # 12 > > " raj yog , dhan aur maryada ka swami jageerdar hoga > - jab khana # 1 mein surya ya brahaspati ya shani ho " > > > Lal Kitab : Prashthabhoomi aur vyakhya > > Pt. Krishna Ashant > Page #266 > Budh chhate ghar mein > > " budh no 6 ke samay khana # 1 mein surya , brahaspati ya shani ho to ye vyakti ke liye raj yog hoga jis se uski daulat , jageer-jaydad barhe gi " > > > > > Lal Kitab { pratham khand } By Keshava Nand Bharti > > Budh khana # 6 > > Page 438 > Note # 11 > > " Raj yog , zar , daulat aur dharm maryada ka malik aur zageerdar hoga - # 1 mein brahaspati , suraj ya shanishchchar " > > > > 1952 Lal Kitab : Translated by G & V > Page 528 > > Note # 3 > Sun , Jupiter or Saturn in khana # 1 > royal combination, one will be wealthy, have power, authority > and immovable property > > > Lal Kitab by R S Chiller > Page # 260 > > Mercury in the 6th house > > " If the mercury were in the 6th house and the Sun , Jupiter or Saturn occupies the 1st house; this shall be raj yog. The native's wealth and property shall grow " > > > Lal Kitab by UC Mahajan > > Mercury in the 6th house > > Page # 206 > > Sun or Jupiter or Saturn in 1st : Raj Yog ; rich ; religious minded ; traditionalist ; landlord. > > > > The original 1952 urdu edition of the Lal Kitab and all other subsequent books consistently maintain that when the Mercury is in the 6th house and if sun or Jupiter or Saturn happen to be in the 1st house , it forms a Raj yog etc. > > Now compare the above statements with the last line of the couplet for budh khana # 6 > > " sooraj shani guru dooje baithe , jageer raja dhan bharhta ho " [ 52ed page 557, Arun sanhita 190} > > The introductory poem says if the sun , Jupiter or the Saturn are in the 2nd house , then `jageer raja dhan barhta ho'. > > The simple question is which of the two statements is correct. The initial statement where Pt. Roopchand Joshi clearly states that if either of these three planets is in the 2nd house then `jageer, raja, dhan barhta ho' or the notes { or tippani } where the same result are said to occur if either of these planets is in the 1st house. > > I find the poetic line " sooraj shani guru dooje baithe " to be correct and a misprint in the notes where it should be house # 2 instead of house # 1. > > My reasons for accepting the poetic line , and hence khana # 2 , to be correct are : > > { 1 }because the book further says, > - " khana # 2 ya shukra ki halat par budh ka aam asar hoga " > > - " teve mein jab bhi koi grah uttam ho khaskar # 2 ke ; budh fauran usi ki nakal karega " > > { 2 } Pt Roop Chand Joshi has been consistent about khana # 2 . > > In 1939 Lal Kitab he says " jaise grah khana # 2 ke honge , budh ab vaisa hi phal dega " { Arun Sanhita version page 199 } > > In the 1941 gutaka " jaise grah khana # 2 ke honge budh ab vaisa hi phal dega { sirf nek arthon ke liye} " [ Arun sanhita version page 72 ] > > [ 3 ] Now let us further verify the position of the sun or the jupiter or Saturn in the 2nd house in the light of yet another line from the initial poetry. The line says, > > " bhala guru shani sooraj baitha , yog raja zar mandir ho " > > Again the word `mandir' could refer to the 2nd house. { it could also mean a temple , but the word mandir has been very often used for khana # 2} > > [ 4 ] Are these planets ` bhale' in the 2nd house? > Yes. It is the pakka ghar of Jupiter. Sun here would be in the pakka ghar of his friend and Saturn here is called as " guru sharan … hasbe haisiat jeevan gujare, jeevit jab tak rahata ho " > > Therefore it is conclusively proved that either of these planets in the 2nd house will give the results which erroneously have been attributed to the 1st house in the notes . Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2006 Report Share Posted January 16, 2006 Respected Gupta Ji, You are right that Budh and Sooraj always stay besides each other. But in LalKitab the Rahu and Ketu can be in one House what to say about Suraj and Budh. The LalKitab is a MahaGranth of Astrology. In my opinion, It consists of Samudrik Shastra, Jyostisha, Shgun Shastra and Vaastu, compiled and discussed in One book. In Samudrik Shastra, These Planets can be in one House or may fell appart up to 12th House. The Results from the Kundli made with Samudrik shastra is stated to be much correct and to the point. That is why it is said earlier to keep aside Parashari while learning LalKitab. Regards Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj , " m.r. gupta " <mrgupta_in> wrote: > > Respected Gurujans, > > I have a doubt about expected position of sun in khana > no.1 or 2, when Budh is in Khana No.6. I understand > that as Budh and Sun are close by and either they stay > together or in neighbouring house only and therefore, > when Budh is in Khana No.6, then Sun can never be in > Khana No.1 or 2, in BASIC HOROSCOPE, as is discussed > here for detecting mistake. For LK horoscope study, > only rashi nos. are re-written starting from 'Lagn' > (House No.1) as Khana No.1. However, when Sun & Budh > are in neighboring houses, then in Varshphal only such > possibility takes place when Budh is in Khana No.6, > then Sun could be in Khana No.1 or2. Kindly clear my > doubt. Thanks. > > M.R. GUPTA > > --- Varun Trivedi <varun_trvd> wrote: > > > Mistake in > > Budh Khana # 6 > > > > > > > > 1952 Urdu ed : Page 558 > > budh in khana # 6 > > note # 12 , nek halat > > > > " raj yog , zar daulat aur dharma maryada ka malik > > aur jageerdar hoga - # 1 mein brahaspati, suraj ya > > shanishchar ho " > > > > > > Arun Sanhita : Page 191 > > Budh in khana # 6 > > Nek halat , note # 12 > > > > " raj yog , dhan aur maryada ka swami jageerdar > > hoga > > - jab khana # > > 1 mein surya ya brahaspati ya shani ho " > > > > > > Lal Kitab : Prashthabhoomi aur vyakhya > > > > Pt. Krishna Ashant > > Page #266 > > Budh chhate ghar mein > > > > " budh no 6 ke samay khana # 1 mein surya , > > brahaspati ya shani ho to ye vyakti ke liye raj yog > > hoga jis se uski daulat , jageer-jaydad barhe gi " > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab { pratham khand } By Keshava Nand Bharti > > > > Budh khana # 6 > > > > Page 438 > > Note # 11 > > > > " Raj yog , zar , daulat aur dharm maryada ka > > malik aur zageerdar hoga - # 1 mein brahaspati , > > suraj ya shanishchchar " > > > > > > > > 1952 Lal Kitab : Translated by G & V > > Page 528 > > > > Note # 3 > > Sun , Jupiter or Saturn in khana # 1 > > > > royal combination, one will be wealthy, have > > power, authority > > and immovable property > > > > > > Lal Kitab by R S Chiller > > Page # 260 > > > > Mercury in the 6th house > > > > " If the mercury were in the 6th house and the Sun > > , Jupiter or Saturn occupies the 1st house; this > > shall be raj yog. The native's wealth and property > > shall grow " > > > > > > Lal Kitab by UC Mahajan > > > > Mercury in the 6th house > > > > Page # 206 > > > > Sun or Jupiter or Saturn in 1st : Raj Yog ; rich > > ; religious minded ; traditionalist ; landlord. > > > > > > > > The original 1952 urdu edition of the Lal Kitab > > and all other subsequent books consistently maintain > > that when the Mercury is in the 6th house and if sun > > or Jupiter or Saturn happen to be in the 1st house , > > it forms a Raj yog etc. > > > > Now compare the above statements with the last > > line of the couplet for budh khana # 6 > > > > " sooraj shani guru dooje baithe , jageer raja > > dhan bharhta ho " [ 52ed page 557, Arun sanhita 190} > > > > The introductory poem says if the sun , Jupiter or > > the Saturn are in the 2nd house , then `jageer raja > > dhan barhta ho'. > > > > The simple question is which of the two statements > > is correct. The initial statement where Pt. > > Roopchand Joshi clearly states that if either of > > these three planets is in the 2nd house then > > `jageer, raja, dhan barhta ho' or the notes { or > > tippani } where the same result are said to occur if > > either of these planets is in the 1st house. > > > > I find the poetic line " sooraj shani guru dooje > > baithe " to be correct and a misprint in the notes > > where it should be house # 2 instead of house # 1. > > > > My reasons for accepting the poetic line , and > > hence khana # 2 , to be correct are : > > > > { 1 }because the book further says, > > - " khana # 2 ya shukra ki halat par budh ka aam > > asar hoga " > > > > - " teve mein jab bhi koi grah uttam ho khaskar # > > 2 ke ; budh fauran usi ki nakal karega " > > > > { 2 } Pt Roop Chand Joshi has been consistent > > about khana # 2 . > > > > In 1939 Lal Kitab he says " jaise grah khana # 2 > > ke honge , budh ab vaisa hi phal dega " { Arun > > Sanhita version page 199 } > > > > In the 1941 gutaka " jaise grah khana # 2 ke honge > > budh ab vaisa hi phal dega { sirf nek arthon ke > > liye} " [ Arun sanhita version page 72 ] > > > > [ 3 ] Now let us further verify the position of > > the sun or the jupiter or Saturn in the 2nd house in > > the light of yet another line from the initial > > poetry. The line says, > > > > " bhala guru shani sooraj baitha , yog raja zar > > mandir ho " > > > > Again the word `mandir' could refer to the 2nd > > house. { it could also mean a temple , but the word > > mandir has been very often used for khana # 2} > > > > [ 4 ] Are these planets ` bhale' in the 2nd house? > > > > Yes. It is the pakka ghar of Jupiter. Sun here > > would be in the pakka ghar of his friend and Saturn > > here is called as " guru sharan … hasbe haisiat > > jeevan gujare, jeevit jab tak rahata ho " > > > > Therefore it is conclusively proved that either of > > these planets in the 2nd house will give the results > > which erroneously have been attributed to the 1st > > house in the notes . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://in.messenger. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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