Guest guest Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Dear Members, As you all know this group is setup exclusively for the research on the LalKitab from scratch. We have the blessings of many experts in the group.All of them, inspite of being very busy,are very kind enough to guide us time an when we require the guidance for typical and difficult issues.I want that they must not be disturbed, off and on, for small issues/guidance. I invite few volunteers who want to be keen learner and researcher to volunteer himself for this cause. The volunteer must have access to the Original LalKitab or its transliterations. He must be able to devote/dig deep into the books and can give time to the study topic thoroughly. He can be contacted personally on email / phones. The person if have Urdu Lal Kitabs and he know urdu Must join this core group as this will help us to have correct our transliterated books. The knowledge in to computer will be an asset. Any body who wants to join this core group of researcher can mail me at nk Please Note that email me at above address only , not in the group Best regards Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Respected Nirmal Ji, I have the privilege of knowing you personally, and I am well aware how clean hearted and honest person you are. That is why I have a great admiration for you. Your commitment towards the cause of Lal Kitab Astrology is praiseworthy, and you along with other like minded persons like Sh. PK Sharma are trying to decode each line of the Lal Kitab for the sake of the human kind. I bow my head before you for your endeavor. I personally know some "greats" of the subject, who possess almost all the qualities mentioned by you, but I am really very sorry to say that the element of "volunteerism" is unfortunately missing. These "greats" are not even ready to share their books with anyone, forget about anything else. Yes, you may get “something” from them in barter, but, what you can offer them in bargain I really don't know. You are looking for a person with some extraordinary qualities; aren’t you asking for too much? I am afraid that it is hard to find a guy who is well versed with Urdu, have the original Urdu volumes, knows computers, have ample amount of time, and moreover is willing to volunteer himself for the cause so on and so forth. I can well understand the selflessness and excellent objective behind your motive. My pessimistic words are the outcome of the pain and agony I came across during my career as a humble student of Lal Kitab, who likes you, once was very keen to unveil the secrets of the revered book, but was unable to find the support from many so-called “Greats” despite doing “everything” for them. Do you really think that everybody is as unselfish, sincere and dedicated as you are? If yes, then I must say it is not like. The species in question is near its extinction. If you are able to find such a great soul, please do not forget to inform me, I will incur all the expenses from my pocket to honour him in an appropriate function. Please forgive me for the following unforgiving words: HASEENON SE AHED-E-WAFA CHAHTE HO, BADE NA-SAMAJH HO YE KYA CHAHTE HO. (Roughly translated: You are you expecting the pledge of faithfulness from the beautiful women folks, you are really innocent, what the hell are you expecting?) Regards Yograj Prabhakar nirbhar <nirmal wrote: Dear Members, As you all know this group is setup exclusively for the research on the LalKitab from scratch. We have the blessings of many experts in the group.All of them, inspite of being very busy,are very kind enough to guide us time an when we require the guidance for typical and difficult issues.I want that they must not be disturbed, off and on, for small issues/guidance.I invite few volunteers who want to be keen learner and researcher to volunteer himself for this cause. The volunteer must have access to the Original LalKitab or its transliterations. He must be able to devote/dig deep into the books and can give time to the study topic thoroughly. He can be contacted personally on email / phones.The person if have Urdu Lal Kitabs and he know urdu Must join this core group as this will help us to have correct our transliterated books.The knowledge in to computer will be an asset.Any body who wants to join this core group of researcher can mail me atnk Please Note that email me at above address only , not in the groupBest regardsNirmal Kumar Bhardwaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Dear Nirmal Ji, Namaste ! I appreciate your efforts to spread the knowledge of lalkitab. These days most of the astrologers don't want to ( even dislike the idea of ) share the occult knowledge ...and you are decoding each line of lalkitab yourself & requesting others to do the same. I don't agree with Yograj Ji that it is not easy to find a person who has the knowledge of urdu..has original books...and has desire to share his knowledge with general public...because he himself is translating original lalkitab in hindi and english...hopefully his work will be completed sooner than expected..and we all will be benefitted . I suggest Yograj Ji to keep affordable price for the same. Saadhu-vaad to Yograj Ji for his Bhagirath Prayaas Regards Rajeev K Khattar , Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar> wrote: > > Respected Nirmal Ji, > > > > I have the privilege of knowing you personally, and I am well aware how clean hearted and honest person you are. That is why I have a great admiration for you. Your commitment towards the cause of Lal Kitab Astrology is praiseworthy, and you along with other like minded persons like Sh. PK Sharma are trying to decode each line of the Lal Kitab for the sake of the human kind. I bow my head before you for your endeavor. I personally know some " greats " of the subject, who possess almost all the qualities mentioned by you, but I am really very sorry to say that the element of " volunteerism " is unfortunately missing. These " greats " are not even ready to share their books with anyone, forget about anything else. Yes, you may get " something " from them in barter, but, what you can offer them in bargain I really don't know. > > > > You are looking for a person with some extraordinary qualities; aren't you asking for too much? I am afraid that it is hard to find a guy who is well versed with Urdu, have the original Urdu volumes, knows computers, have ample amount of time, and moreover is willing to volunteer himself for the cause so on and so forth. > > > > I can well understand the selflessness and excellent objective behind your motive. My pessimistic words are the outcome of the pain and agony I came across during my career as a humble student of Lal Kitab, who likes you, once was very keen to unveil the secrets of the revered book, but was unable to find the support from many so- called " Greats " despite doing " everything " for them. > > > > Do you really think that everybody is as unselfish, sincere and dedicated as you are? If yes, then I must say it is not like. The species in question is near its extinction. If you are able to find such a great soul, please do not forget to inform me, I will incur all the expenses from my pocket to honour him in an appropriate function. > > > > Please forgive me for the following unforgiving words: > > > > HASEENON SE AHED-E-WAFA CHAHTE HO, > > BADE NA-SAMAJH HO YE KYA CHAHTE HO. > > > > (Roughly translated: You are you expecting the pledge of faithfulness from the beautiful women folks, you are really innocent, what the hell are you expecting?) > > > > Regards > > Yograj Prabhakar > > > > > nirbhar <nirmal@g...> wrote: > Dear Members, > As you all know this group is setup exclusively for the research on > the LalKitab from scratch. We have the blessings of many experts in > the group.All of them, inspite of being very busy,are very kind enough > to guide us time an when we require the guidance for typical and > difficult issues.I want that they must not be disturbed, off and on, > for small issues/guidance. > I invite few volunteers who want to be keen learner and researcher to > volunteer himself for this cause. > The volunteer must have access to the Original LalKitab or its > transliterations. > He must be able to devote/dig deep into the books and can give > time to the study topic thoroughly. > He can be contacted personally on email / phones. > The person if have Urdu Lal Kitabs and he know urdu Must join this > core group as this will help us to have correct our transliterated > books. > The knowledge in to computer will be an asset. > Any body who wants to join this core group of researcher can mail me > at > nk@g... > Please Note that email me at above address only , not in the group > Best regards > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 hello my dear seniors colleagues and friends specially nirmal ji hope u all are fine and enjoying the colors of life i had gone thru this mail and here i would like to congratulate nirmal ji and other learned scholars who are making lal kitab easy to read and understand. it will be very helpful for a person like me.because i have a habbit to read between the lines and behind the lines also. till date we are also trying to understand the red book and its grammer no doubt it is very tough to understand but on the same time it is very easy also. here i would like to thank Yograjji for making me understand ceratin things in such a simple way that nobody else would have done it there were certain queries in my mind for the last 11 years which were not getting solved by me but Yograjji helped me out and today those things are clear like crystal to me and of great help also .what i meant to say is this that red book has got too many hidden meanings in it.we have to look collectively for them .this is my belief that no single person can understand it.if somebody thinks he has all the books original ones with them that doesent means he is well versed with them because till date we are reading and understanding and each and every time we find few good things and when we apply them practically it is true. basically there are very very few persons who know astrology in true sense if they are goog astrologers then they lack in urdu,if some one knows urdu he may not be astrologer so it is very difficult to find the combination of both in one person then the third thing is computer knowledge which is essential in this age and on top of it the precious time. i know there are very few people of such type in group like yograjji khattar sahib etc who are still researching on various topics which are untouched till date. this is atrue fact that people dont share their true knowledge and books i know pandit roopcghand joshi used to give books himself to people who were capable of it.i also had a copy of it but somebody cheated me and today he had felt himself the bad effect of decieving me .kitab mein to outlines hi di gayi hai ..practically bahut si aisi cheezain hai ki byaan nahi ki ja sakti .kuch ek upayee to aissae hai jo roop chand khud karvatae the magar kitab mein un ka zikar tak nahi. what i meant to say is that please u do emphasise on books but remember that sari baataien kitab mein nahi likhi jaati kuch ek ki taraf ishara hota hai aur baki samjhi jati hai yeh hame bhi tabhi samajh mein aaya jab ham ne dekhi ki jo upayee roop chand ji ne karvaye vo to kitab mein hai hi nahi to kahan se? bas yahan se hamari bhi research shuru ho gayi aur aaj tak koshiosh merin lagae hai ki shayad marnae se pahlae koi bhed khul jaye aur........... sorry for writing too much bas jo dil mein aaya likhta gaya' in case agar is khadim kim kisi bhi tarah ki zarurat ho to hazir hoon thanks ms kondal --- Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote: > > Respected Nirmal Ji, > > > > I have the privilege of knowing you personally, and > I am well aware how clean hearted and honest person > you are. That is why I have a great admiration for > you. Your commitment towards the cause of Lal Kitab > Astrology is praiseworthy, and you along with other > like minded persons like Sh. PK Sharma are trying to > decode each line of the Lal Kitab for the sake of > the human kind. I bow my head before you for your > endeavor. I personally know some " greats " of the > subject, who possess almost all the qualities > mentioned by you, but I am really very sorry to say > that the element of " volunteerism " is unfortunately > missing. These " greats " are not even ready to share > their books with anyone, forget about anything else. > Yes, you may get “something” from them in barter, > but, what you can offer them in bargain I really > don't know. > > > > You are looking for a person with some extraordinary > qualities; aren’t you asking for too much? I am > afraid that it is hard to find a guy who is well > versed with Urdu, have the original Urdu volumes, > knows computers, have ample amount of time, and > moreover is willing to volunteer himself for the > cause so on and so forth. > > > > I can well understand the selflessness and excellent > objective behind your motive. My pessimistic words > are the outcome of the pain and agony I came across > during my career as a humble student of Lal Kitab, > who likes you, once was very keen to unveil the > secrets of the revered book, but was unable to find > the support from many so-called “Greats” despite > doing “everything” for them. > > > > Do you really think that everybody is as unselfish, > sincere and dedicated as you are? If yes, then I > must say it is not like. The species in question is > near its extinction. If you are able to find such a > great soul, please do not forget to inform me, I > will incur all the expenses from my pocket to honour > him in an appropriate function. > > > > Please forgive me for the following unforgiving > words: > > > > HASEENON SE AHED-E-WAFA CHAHTE HO, > > BADE NA-SAMAJH HO YE KYA CHAHTE HO. > > > > (Roughly translated: You are you expecting the > pledge of faithfulness from the beautiful women > folks, you are really innocent, what the hell are > you expecting?) > > > > Regards > > Yograj Prabhakar > > > > > nirbhar <nirmal wrote: > Dear Members, > As you all know this group is setup exclusively > for the research on > the LalKitab from scratch. We have the blessings of > many experts in > the group.All of them, inspite of being very > busy,are very kind enough > to guide us time an when we require the guidance for > typical and > difficult issues.I want that they must not be > disturbed, off and on, > for small issues/guidance. > I invite few volunteers who want to be keen learner > and researcher to > volunteer himself for this cause. > The volunteer must have access to the Original > LalKitab or its > transliterations. > He must be able to devote/dig deep into the > books and can give > time to the study topic thoroughly. > He can be contacted personally on email / > phones. > The person if have Urdu Lal Kitabs and he know urdu > Must join this > core group as this will help us to have correct our > transliterated > books. > The knowledge in to computer will be an asset. > Any body who wants to join this core group of > researcher can mail me > at > nk > Please Note that email me at above address only , > not in the group > Best regards > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 hello my dear seniors colleagues and friends specially nirmal ji hope u all are fine and enjoying the colors of life i had gone thru this mail and here i would like to congratulate nirmal ji and other learned scholars who are making lal kitab easy to read and understand. it will be very helpful for a person like me.because i have a habbit to read between the lines and behind the lines also. till date we are also trying to understand the red book and its grammer no doubt it is very tough to understand but on the same time it is very easy also. here i would like to thank Yograjji for making me understand ceratin things in such a simple way that nobody else would have done it there were certain queries in my mind for the last 11 years which were not getting solved by me but Yograjji helped me out and today those things are clear like crystal to me and of great help also .what i meant to say is this that red book has got too many hidden meanings in it.we have to look collectively for them .this is my belief that no single person can understand it.if somebody thinks he has all the books original ones with them that doesent means he is well versed with them because till date we are reading and understanding and each and every time we find few good things and when we apply them practically it is true. basically there are very very few persons who know astrology in true sense if they are goog astrologers then they lack in urdu,if some one knows urdu he may not be astrologer so it is very difficult to find the combination of both in one person then the third thing is computer knowledge which is essential in this age and on top of it the precious time. i know there are very few people of such type in group like yograjji khattar sahib etc who are still researching on various topics which are untouched till date. this is atrue fact that people dont share their true knowledge and books i know pandit roopcghand joshi used to give books himself to people who were capable of it.i also had a copy of it but somebody cheated me and today he had felt himself the bad effect of decieving me .kitab mein to outlines hi di gayi hai ..practically bahut si aisi cheezain hai ki byaan nahi ki ja sakti .kuch ek upayee to aissae hai jo roop chand khud karvatae the magar kitab mein un ka zikar tak nahi. what i meant to say is that please u do emphasise on books but remember that sari baataien kitab mein nahi likhi jaati kuch ek ki taraf ishara hota hai aur baki samjhi jati hai yeh hame bhi tabhi samajh mein aaya jab ham ne dekhi ki jo upayee roop chand ji ne karvaye vo to kitab mein hai hi nahi to kahan se? bas yahan se hamari bhi research shuru ho gayi aur aaj tak koshiosh merin lagae hai ki shayad marnae se pahlae koi bhed khul jaye aur........... sorry for writing too much bas jo dil mein aaya likhta gaya' in case agar is khadim kim kisi bhi tarah ki zarurat ho to hazir hoon thanks ms kondal --- Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote: > > Respected Nirmal Ji, > > > > I have the privilege of knowing you personally, and > I am well aware how clean hearted and honest person > you are. That is why I have a great admiration for > you. Your commitment towards the cause of Lal Kitab > Astrology is praiseworthy, and you along with other > like minded persons like Sh. PK Sharma are trying to > decode each line of the Lal Kitab for the sake of > the human kind. I bow my head before you for your > endeavor. I personally know some " greats " of the > subject, who possess almost all the qualities > mentioned by you, but I am really very sorry to say > that the element of " volunteerism " is unfortunately > missing. These " greats " are not even ready to share > their books with anyone, forget about anything else. > Yes, you may get “something” from them in barter, > but, what you can offer them in bargain I really > don't know. > > > > You are looking for a person with some extraordinary > qualities; aren’t you asking for too much? I am > afraid that it is hard to find a guy who is well > versed with Urdu, have the original Urdu volumes, > knows computers, have ample amount of time, and > moreover is willing to volunteer himself for the > cause so on and so forth. > > > > I can well understand the selflessness and excellent > objective behind your motive. My pessimistic words > are the outcome of the pain and agony I came across > during my career as a humble student of Lal Kitab, > who likes you, once was very keen to unveil the > secrets of the revered book, but was unable to find > the support from many so-called “Greats” despite > doing “everything” for them. > > > > Do you really think that everybody is as unselfish, > sincere and dedicated as you are? If yes, then I > must say it is not like. The species in question is > near its extinction. If you are able to find such a > great soul, please do not forget to inform me, I > will incur all the expenses from my pocket to honour > him in an appropriate function. > > > > Please forgive me for the following unforgiving > words: > > > > HASEENON SE AHED-E-WAFA CHAHTE HO, > > BADE NA-SAMAJH HO YE KYA CHAHTE HO. > > > > (Roughly translated: You are you expecting the > pledge of faithfulness from the beautiful women > folks, you are really innocent, what the hell are > you expecting?) > > > > Regards > > Yograj Prabhakar > > > > > nirbhar <nirmal wrote: > Dear Members, > As you all know this group is setup exclusively > for the research on > the LalKitab from scratch. We have the blessings of > many experts in > the group.All of them, inspite of being very > busy,are very kind enough > to guide us time an when we require the guidance for > typical and > difficult issues.I want that they must not be > disturbed, off and on, > for small issues/guidance. > I invite few volunteers who want to be keen learner > and researcher to > volunteer himself for this cause. > The volunteer must have access to the Original > LalKitab or its > transliterations. > He must be able to devote/dig deep into the > books and can give > time to the study topic thoroughly. > He can be contacted personally on email / > phones. > The person if have Urdu Lal Kitabs and he know urdu > Must join this > core group as this will help us to have correct our > transliterated > books. > The knowledge in to computer will be an asset. > Any body who wants to join this core group of > researcher can mail me > at > nk > Please Note that email me at above address only , > not in the group > Best regards > Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 Respected Prabhakar Ji, Kondal Ji, PavanKhera Ji and Rajiv Khattar Ji, I really obliged for the concern you have shown for the cause. You said somebody demands some secrets of one's research for just one copy of the book , that too, have published by none other than worthy Pt. Roop Chand Joshi and amazing the same people may call themselves connected with and following the Paths laid by Pandit Ji.He may have done for his selfish motives, But how can he repay this hrin.Dear Gurujans, In my opinion one may hide every thing from the world, may justify his deeds for one reason or other. But one never cam hide any thing from himself. " Diniya se to bach jao Ge , Bhai Apne aap se kaise bacho Ge" ARAI BHAI KHUD HI TO KEHTE HO KI APNE PITRO KE BURE KARMON KA PHAL AAP KO BHUGATNA PADEGA(EVERYBODY HAS TO PAY FOR THE SINS OF HIS ANCESTORS)THEN FOR WHOM THESE PERSONS WILL BE LEAVING THE WORLD, TO PAY FOR THEIR SINSLet them leave at their place and we keep on ourselves on the track.The world may be full of the persons who have their own selfish motives, but the same world has the good persons like you. What I asked is nothing for a person who study astrology. The people are coming forward for this pios cause. Best regards. nirmalnirmal2005-02-22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Dear Mr.Yograj Ji, You have very correct.I too endorse your views about Mr.Nirmal Bhardwaj.He is a very hard working and clear hearted person but what ever he is expecting from the fellow members of group I fully agree with your views.I am a novice to this subject especially to Lal Kitab. As far as Vedic Astrology is concerned I have a bit of experience and out of this experience I have gained a lot about the nature of people. Who so ever came in my contact he tried to grab whatever little knowledge I have but never shared his views or findings.In this context I am writing a couplet: "HAMEIN BHEE AA PARHA HAI DOSTON SE KAAM KUCHH AKHTAR" HAMARE DOSTON KE BEWAFA HONE KAA WAQT AAYAA" With Regards, Dr.Amar Aggarwal P.S.Is your second house is being influenced by Mars, directly or indirectly. I hope you will not mind sharing this thing.Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote: Respected Nirmal Ji, I have the privilege of knowing you personally, and I am well aware how clean hearted and honest person you are. That is why I have a great admiration for you. Your commitment towards the cause of Lal Kitab Astrology is praiseworthy, and you along with other like minded persons like Sh. PK Sharma are trying to decode each line of the Lal Kitab for the sake of the human kind. I bow my head before you for your endeavor. I personally know some "greats" of the subject, who possess almost all the qualities mentioned by you, but I am really very sorry to say that the element of "volunteerism" is unfortunately missing. These "greats" are not even ready to share their books with anyone, forget about anything else. Yes, you may get “something” from them in barter, but, what you can offer them in bargain I really don't know. You are looking for a person with some extraordinary qualities; aren’t you asking for too much? I am afraid that it is hard to find a guy who is well versed with Urdu, have the original Urdu volumes, knows computers, have ample amount of time, and moreover is willing to volunteer himself for the cause so on and so forth. I can well understand the selflessness and excellent objective behind your motive. My pessimistic words are the outcome of the pain and agony I came across during my career as a humble student of Lal Kitab, who likes you, once was very keen to unveil the secrets of the revered book, but was unable to find the support from many so-called “Greats” despite doing “everything” for them. Do you really think that everybody is as unselfish, sincere and dedicated as you are? If yes, then I must say it is not like. The species in question is near its extinction. If you are able to find such a great soul, please do not forget to inform me, I will incur all the expenses from my pocket to honour him in an appropriate function. Please forgive me for the following unforgiving words: HASEENON SE AHED-E-WAFA CHAHTE HO, BADE NA-SAMAJH HO YE KYA CHAHTE HO. (Roughly translated: You are you expecting the pledge of faithfulness from the beautiful women folks, you are really innocent, what the hell are you expecting?) Regards Yograj Prabhakar nirbhar <nirmal wrote: Dear Members, As you all know this group is setup exclusively for the research on the LalKitab from scratch. We have the blessings of many experts in the group.All of them, inspite of being very busy,are very kind enough to guide us time an when we require the guidance for typical and difficult issues.I want that they must not be disturbed, off and on, for small issues/guidance.I invite few volunteers who want to be keen learner and researcher to volunteer himself for this cause. The volunteer must have access to the Original LalKitab or its transliterations. He must be able to devote/dig deep into the books and can give time to the study topic thoroughly. He can be contacted personally on email / phones.The person if have Urdu Lal Kitabs and he know urdu Must join this core group as this will help us to have correct our transliterated books.The knowledge in to computer will be an asset.Any body who wants to join this core group of researcher can mail me atnk Please Note that email me at above address only , not in the groupBest regardsNirmal Kumar Bhardwaj Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Respected Dr. Amar Aggarwal Ji, Sa’adar Pranaam. I am very grateful to your good-self for the vote of confidence for my pungent lexis. Sir, I was simply trying to put across to Sh. Nirmal Bhardwaj Ji, whatever you have described regarding the selfish and thankless people. Further, I wish to inform you that Mars has nothing to do at all with the second house of my Kundali. Regards Yograj PrabhakarAmar Aggarwal <gnagesh79 wrote: Dear Mr.Yograj Ji, You have very correct.I too endorse your views about Mr.Nirmal Bhardwaj.He is a very hard working and clear hearted person but what ever he is expecting from the fellow members of group I fully agree with your views.I am a novice to this subject especially to Lal Kitab. As far as Vedic Astrology is concerned I have a bit of experience and out of this experience I have gained a lot about the nature of people. Who so ever came in my contact he tried to grab whatever little knowledge I have but never shared his views or findings.In this context I am writing a couplet: "HAMEIN BHEE AA PARHA HAI DOSTON SE KAAM KUCHH AKHTAR" HAMARE DOSTON KE BEWAFA HONE KAA WAQT AAYAA" With Regards, Dr.Amar Aggarwal P.S.Is your second house is being influenced by Mars, directly or indirectly. I hope you will not mind sharing this thing.Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote: Respected Nirmal Ji, I have the privilege of knowing you personally, and I am well aware how clean hearted and honest person you are. That is why I have a great admiration for you. Your commitment towards the cause of Lal Kitab Astrology is praiseworthy, and you along with other like minded persons like Sh. PK Sharma are trying to decode each line of the Lal Kitab for the sake of the human kind. I bow my head before you for your endeavor. I personally know some "greats" of the subject, who possess almost all the qualities mentioned by you, but I am really very sorry to say that the element of "volunteerism" is unfortunately missing. These "greats" are not even ready to share their books with anyone, forget about anything else. Yes, you may get “something” from them in barter, but, what you can offer them in bargain I really don't know. You are looking for a person with some extraordinary qualities; aren’t you asking for too much? I am afraid that it is hard to find a guy who is well versed with Urdu, have the original Urdu volumes, knows computers, have ample amount of time, and moreover is willing to volunteer himself for the cause so on and so forth. I can well understand the selflessness and excellent objective behind your motive. My pessimistic words are the outcome of the pain and agony I came across during my career as a humble student of Lal Kitab, who likes you, once was very keen to unveil the secrets of the revered book, but was unable to find the support from many so-called “Greats” despite doing “everything” for them. Do you really think that everybody is as unselfish, sincere and dedicated as you are? If yes, then I must say it is not like. The species in question is near its extinction. If you are able to find such a great soul, please do not forget to inform me, I will incur all the expenses from my pocket to honour him in an appropriate function. Please forgive me for the following unforgiving words: HASEENON SE AHED-E-WAFA CHAHTE HO, BADE NA-SAMAJH HO YE KYA CHAHTE HO. (Roughly translated: You are you expecting the pledge of faithfulness from the beautiful women folks, you are really innocent, what the hell are you expecting?) Regards Yograj Prabhakar nirbhar <nirmal wrote: Dear Members, As you all know this group is setup exclusively for the research on the LalKitab from scratch. We have the blessings of many experts in the group.All of them, inspite of being very busy,are very kind enough to guide us time an when we require the guidance for typical and difficult issues.I want that they must not be disturbed, off and on, for small issues/guidance.I invite few volunteers who want to be keen learner and researcher to volunteer himself for this cause. The volunteer must have access to the Original LalKitab or its transliterations. He must be able to devote/dig deep into the books and can give time to the study topic thoroughly. He can be contacted personally on email / phones.The person if have Urdu Lal Kitabs and he know urdu Must join this core group as this will help us to have correct our transliterated books.The knowledge in to computer will be an asset.Any body who wants to join this core group of researcher can mail me atnk Please Note that email me at above address only , not in the groupBest regardsNirmal Kumar Bhardwaj Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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