janam ka samay : a querry

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Respected Kulbir jee,

 

[ 1 ] The time slots for various planets, along with 'din ke hisse',

are given in the 1952 ed of the book itself in the form of a table

on page 30.

[ 2 ] Assuming that the detailed time slot given in the book is

authentic and is not a later interpolation by some one translating

the book , in that case we should go by what Pandit jee himself has

written. { I donot have the Urdu book ,because I can not read urdu

script }

[ 3 ] Yes, I agree with you on the point of Sun rise and sunset

issue. And I also think that the 'din ke hisse' is a better format

to go by.

 

with regards and naman to all gurujan,

 

bhuwan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- In , " Kulbir Singh Bains "

<ceetabains> wrote:

>

> BHUWN JI,

> don't you think that the time of rising and setting of sun varies

> according to seasons. in that respect isn't it inappropriate to

fix

> time slots. i feel it better to use it according to the din ke

hisse

> than fixing time slots. what is your opinion about that. i rely

> heavily on your opininon and like in past please guide regarding

this

> also.

> kulbir singh bains

>

> , " bhuwanvashishtha "

> <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Kulbir ji,

> >

> > Yes I got that. But what I was asking is that on page 30 of 1952

ed

> > there is a table giving time blocks of the day and night for

> > planets , like the one you have said. But along the margin of

the

> > table on all four sides , specific time slots are also given

eg "

> > brihaspati din nikalne ke bad 8 baje ka arsa --sooraj 8 baje se

10

> > baje ka arsa .... and so on " . Now in this demarcation the time

> > between 3 pm to 4pm has not been accounted for. The details of

time

> > allotment given on page 7 of Arun sanhita { under the table }

also

> > doesn't account for the time slab of 3 pm to 4 pm.

> >

> > However Goswami & Vashishtha in their translation have added

this

> > slot to Venus. In the original, Venus has been given the time

slot

> > of 1 pm to 3 pm ; where as G & V have made it to 1 pm to 4 pm {

> page

> > 70 }

> > I heard from an astrologer , not very reliable , that this time

> slot

> > of 3 pm to 4 pm is for mangal nek.

> >

> > Thats why the confusion.

> >

> > with regards and naman to all gurujan,

> >

> > bhuwan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Kulbir Singh Bains "

> > <ceetabains> wrote:

> > >

> > > bhuwan ji;

> > > in 1942 edition and as well as 1952 edition panna no. 39 syas

> > > suraj nikalne se din ka pahal hissa brahspati ka

> > > din ke pahle hisse ke baad magar pakki dopahar ke baadh ke

pahle

> > usraj

> > > ka waqt hoga

> > > tamaam chandni raat ko chandra ka samay kahenge

> > > krishan paksh aur shukla paksh ki darmayani ya amavasya ki

raat

> > shukra

> > > ka samay hoga

> > > puri dopahar ka din ka ain darmiyan mangal ka samay lenge

> > > dopahar ke baad magar puri shaam se pahle ka samay budh ka

hoga.

> > kali

> > > raat ya ghanghor kale badaal ka din shani ka hoga,

> > > puri pakki shaam magar raat se pahle ka waqt rahu ka waqt

lenge.

> > > subah sadik early mornig magar surya nikalne se poorva

ushakaal ke

> > > samay ketu ka waqt hoga.

> > > kulbir , " bhuwanvashishtha "

> > > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Gurujan,

> > > >

> > > > While talking about the 'janma ka waqt', the author has

> > assigned

> > > > various parts of the day and night to various planets. The

time

> > slot

> > > > of 3pm to 4pm has been left out.I checked the original book

too

> > and

> > > > it has been left out in that too.

> > > >

> > > > Which planet could this time might belong to?

> > > >

> > > > ps: In the context of the above Goswami & Vashishtha have

made

> > yet

> > > > another mistake, it appears. In the table Different Times /

> > Days of

> > > > Planets on page 69 they mention mercury [ positive ] and

> mercury

> > [

> > > > negative ] along with Mars [+ ] and mars [ - ].

> > > >

> > > > Could some one please throw light on these two ?

> > > >

> > > > with regards and naman to all gurujan,

> > > >

> > > > bhuwan