Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 bhuwan ji; in 1942 edition and as well as 1952 edition panna no. 39 syas suraj nikalne se din ka pahal hissa brahspati ka din ke pahle hisse ke baad magar pakki dopahar ke baadh ke pahle usraj ka waqt hoga tamaam chandni raat ko chandra ka samay kahenge krishan paksh aur shukla paksh ki darmayani ya amavasya ki raat shukra ka samay hoga puri dopahar ka din ka ain darmiyan mangal ka samay lenge dopahar ke baad magar puri shaam se pahle ka samay budh ka hoga. kali raat ya ghanghor kale badaal ka din shani ka hoga, puri pakki shaam magar raat se pahle ka waqt rahu ka waqt lenge. subah sadik early mornig magar surya nikalne se poorva ushakaal ke samay ketu ka waqt hoga. kulbir , " bhuwanvashishtha " <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > Respected Gurujan, > > While talking about the 'janma ka waqt', the author has assigned > various parts of the day and night to various planets. The time slot > of 3pm to 4pm has been left out.I checked the original book too and > it has been left out in that too. > > Which planet could this time might belong to? > > ps: In the context of the above Goswami & Vashishtha have made yet > another mistake, it appears. In the table Different Times / Days of > Planets on page 69 they mention mercury [ positive ] and mercury [ > negative ] along with Mars [+ ] and mars [ - ]. > > Could some one please throw light on these two ? > > with regards and naman to all gurujan, > > bhuwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2004 Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 Respected Kulbir ji, Yes I got that. But what I was asking is that on page 30 of 1952 ed there is a table giving time blocks of the day and night for planets , like the one you have said. But along the margin of the table on all four sides , specific time slots are also given eg " brihaspati din nikalne ke bad 8 baje ka arsa --sooraj 8 baje se 10 baje ka arsa .... and so on " . Now in this demarcation the time between 3 pm to 4pm has not been accounted for. The details of time allotment given on page 7 of Arun sanhita { under the table } also doesn't account for the time slab of 3 pm to 4 pm. However Goswami & Vashishtha in their translation have added this slot to Venus. In the original, Venus has been given the time slot of 1 pm to 3 pm ; where as G & V have made it to 1 pm to 4 pm { page 70 } I heard from an astrologer , not very reliable , that this time slot of 3 pm to 4 pm is for mangal nek. Thats why the confusion. with regards and naman to all gurujan, bhuwan , " Kulbir Singh Bains " <ceetabains> wrote: > > bhuwan ji; > in 1942 edition and as well as 1952 edition panna no. 39 syas > suraj nikalne se din ka pahal hissa brahspati ka > din ke pahle hisse ke baad magar pakki dopahar ke baadh ke pahle usraj > ka waqt hoga > tamaam chandni raat ko chandra ka samay kahenge > krishan paksh aur shukla paksh ki darmayani ya amavasya ki raat shukra > ka samay hoga > puri dopahar ka din ka ain darmiyan mangal ka samay lenge > dopahar ke baad magar puri shaam se pahle ka samay budh ka hoga. kali > raat ya ghanghor kale badaal ka din shani ka hoga, > puri pakki shaam magar raat se pahle ka waqt rahu ka waqt lenge. > subah sadik early mornig magar surya nikalne se poorva ushakaal ke > samay ketu ka waqt hoga. > kulbir , " bhuwanvashishtha " > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > While talking about the 'janma ka waqt', the author has assigned > > various parts of the day and night to various planets. The time slot > > of 3pm to 4pm has been left out.I checked the original book too and > > it has been left out in that too. > > > > Which planet could this time might belong to? > > > > ps: In the context of the above Goswami & Vashishtha have made yet > > another mistake, it appears. In the table Different Times / Days of > > Planets on page 69 they mention mercury [ positive ] and mercury [ > > negative ] along with Mars [+ ] and mars [ - ]. > > > > Could some one please throw light on these two ? > > > > with regards and naman to all gurujan, > > > > bhuwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 BHUWN JI, don't you think that the time of rising and setting of sun varies according to seasons. in that respect isn't it inappropriate to fix time slots. i feel it better to use it according to the din ke hisse than fixing time slots. what is your opinion about that. i rely heavily on your opininon and like in past please guide regarding this also. kulbir singh bains , " bhuwanvashishtha " <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > Respected Kulbir ji, > > Yes I got that. But what I was asking is that on page 30 of 1952 ed > there is a table giving time blocks of the day and night for > planets , like the one you have said. But along the margin of the > table on all four sides , specific time slots are also given eg " > brihaspati din nikalne ke bad 8 baje ka arsa --sooraj 8 baje se 10 > baje ka arsa .... and so on " . Now in this demarcation the time > between 3 pm to 4pm has not been accounted for. The details of time > allotment given on page 7 of Arun sanhita { under the table } also > doesn't account for the time slab of 3 pm to 4 pm. > > However Goswami & Vashishtha in their translation have added this > slot to Venus. In the original, Venus has been given the time slot > of 1 pm to 3 pm ; where as G & V have made it to 1 pm to 4 pm { page > 70 } > I heard from an astrologer , not very reliable , that this time slot > of 3 pm to 4 pm is for mangal nek. > > Thats why the confusion. > > with regards and naman to all gurujan, > > bhuwan > > > > > , " Kulbir Singh Bains " > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > bhuwan ji; > > in 1942 edition and as well as 1952 edition panna no. 39 syas > > suraj nikalne se din ka pahal hissa brahspati ka > > din ke pahle hisse ke baad magar pakki dopahar ke baadh ke pahle > usraj > > ka waqt hoga > > tamaam chandni raat ko chandra ka samay kahenge > > krishan paksh aur shukla paksh ki darmayani ya amavasya ki raat > shukra > > ka samay hoga > > puri dopahar ka din ka ain darmiyan mangal ka samay lenge > > dopahar ke baad magar puri shaam se pahle ka samay budh ka hoga. > kali > > raat ya ghanghor kale badaal ka din shani ka hoga, > > puri pakki shaam magar raat se pahle ka waqt rahu ka waqt lenge. > > subah sadik early mornig magar surya nikalne se poorva ushakaal ke > > samay ketu ka waqt hoga. > > kulbir , " bhuwanvashishtha " > > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > > While talking about the 'janma ka waqt', the author has > assigned > > > various parts of the day and night to various planets. The time > slot > > > of 3pm to 4pm has been left out.I checked the original book too > and > > > it has been left out in that too. > > > > > > Which planet could this time might belong to? > > > > > > ps: In the context of the above Goswami & Vashishtha have made > yet > > > another mistake, it appears. In the table Different Times / > Days of > > > Planets on page 69 they mention mercury [ positive ] and mercury > [ > > > negative ] along with Mars [+ ] and mars [ - ]. > > > > > > Could some one please throw light on these two ? > > > > > > with regards and naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > bhuwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Respected bhuwan ji I am a beginner in astrology and am interested to gain astrological knowledge. I read mails carefully in order to gain knowledge. I just wanted to make a request to u, if u can kindly help me. Will u plz write down the break up of 24 hours allotted to different planets. would be grateful. Thanks keen learnerbhuwanvashishtha <bhuwanvashishtha wrote: Respected Kulbir ji,Yes I got that. But what I was asking is that on page 30 of 1952 ed there is a table giving time blocks of the day and night for planets , like the one you have said. But along the margin of the table on all four sides , specific time slots are also given eg " brihaspati din nikalne ke bad 8 baje ka arsa --sooraj 8 baje se 10 baje ka arsa .... and so on " . Now in this demarcation the time between 3 pm to 4pm has not been accounted for. The details of time allotment given on page 7 of Arun sanhita { under the table } also doesn't account for the time slab of 3 pm to 4 pm. However Goswami & Vashishtha in their translation have added this slot to Venus. In the original, Venus has been given the time slot of 1 pm to 3 pm ; where as G & V have made it to 1 pm to 4 pm { page 70 }I heard from an astrologer , not very reliable , that this time slot of 3 pm to 4 pm is for mangal nek.Thats why the confusion.with regards and naman to all gurujan,bhuwan , "Kulbir Singh Bains" <ceetabains> wrote:> > bhuwan ji;> in 1942 edition and as well as 1952 edition panna no. 39 syas> suraj nikalne se din ka pahal hissa brahspati ka> din ke pahle hisse ke baad magar pakki dopahar ke baadh ke pahle usraj> ka waqt hoga> tamaam chandni raat ko chandra ka samay kahenge> krishan paksh aur shukla paksh ki darmayani ya amavasya ki raat shukra> ka samay hoga> puri dopahar ka din ka ain darmiyan mangal ka samay lenge> dopahar ke baad magar puri shaam se pahle ka samay budh ka hoga. kali> raat ya ghanghor kale badaal ka din shani ka hoga,> puri pakki shaam magar raat se pahle ka waqt rahu ka waqt lenge.> subah sadik early mornig magar surya nikalne se poorva ushakaal ke> samay ketu ka waqt hoga.> kulbir , "bhuwanvashishtha"> <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote:> > > > Respected Gurujan,> > > > While talking about the 'janma ka waqt', the author has assigned > > various parts of the day and night to various planets. The time slot > > of 3pm to 4pm has been left out.I checked the original book too and > > it has been left out in that too.> > > > Which planet could this time might belong to?> > > > ps: In the context of the above Goswami & Vashishtha have made yet > > another mistake, it appears. In the table Different Times / Days of > > Planets on page 69 they mention mercury [ positive ] and mercury [ > > negative ] along with Mars [+ ] and mars [ - ]. > > > > Could some one please throw light on these two ?> > > > with regards and naman to all gurujan,> > > > bhuwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Respected Laiba jee, [ 1 ] Res. Kulbir jee has earlier given the details of ' din ke hisse' ie which parts of day & night fall under the influence of which planet. [ 2 ]The day time is further devided into time slots for each planet { but there is a controversy on this issue ref : my earlier mail}. I am giving the breakup as given in the book on page 30 : brahspati din nikalne ke baad 8 baje tak ka arsaa sooraj 8 se 10 baje tak ka arsaa chandra 10 se 11 baje tak ka arsaa shukra 1 baje se 3 baje tak ka arsaa mangal din ke 11 baje se 1 baje tak budh 4 baje se 6 baje tak shanishchar din chhupne ke baad jab ek bhi sitaraa nikal pare woh arsaa rahu din chhup gaya magar sitare abhi bhi nahi nikale agar din ausatan 12 ghante pahale ka arsaa ho to ketu din charhne se pahile 2 ghante pahle ka [ I had asked that time slot between 3 pm and 4 pm is not accounted for in these details. ] with regards and naman to all gurujan, bhuwan , Laiba Khan <worthseeing2003> wrote: > Respected bhuwan ji > > I am a beginner in astrology and am interested to gain astrological knowledge. I read mails carefully in order to gain knowledge. I just wanted to make a request to u, if u can kindly help me. > > Will u plz write down the break up of 24 hours allotted to different planets. would be grateful. > > Thanks > > keen learner > > bhuwanvashishtha <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > Respected Kulbir ji, > > Yes I got that. But what I was asking is that on page 30 of 1952 ed > there is a table giving time blocks of the day and night for > planets , like the one you have said. But along the margin of the > table on all four sides , specific time slots are also given eg " > brihaspati din nikalne ke bad 8 baje ka arsa --sooraj 8 baje se 10 > baje ka arsa .... and so on " . Now in this demarcation the time > between 3 pm to 4pm has not been accounted for. The details of time > allotment given on page 7 of Arun sanhita { under the table } also > doesn't account for the time slab of 3 pm to 4 pm. > > However Goswami & Vashishtha in their translation have added this > slot to Venus. In the original, Venus has been given the time slot > of 1 pm to 3 pm ; where as G & V have made it to 1 pm to 4 pm { page > 70 } > I heard from an astrologer , not very reliable , that this time slot > of 3 pm to 4 pm is for mangal nek. > > Thats why the confusion. > > with regards and naman to all gurujan, > > bhuwan > > > > > , " Kulbir Singh Bains " > <ceetabains> wrote: > > > > bhuwan ji; > > in 1942 edition and as well as 1952 edition panna no. 39 syas > > suraj nikalne se din ka pahal hissa brahspati ka > > din ke pahle hisse ke baad magar pakki dopahar ke baadh ke pahle > usraj > > ka waqt hoga > > tamaam chandni raat ko chandra ka samay kahenge > > krishan paksh aur shukla paksh ki darmayani ya amavasya ki raat > shukra > > ka samay hoga > > puri dopahar ka din ka ain darmiyan mangal ka samay lenge > > dopahar ke baad magar puri shaam se pahle ka samay budh ka hoga. > kali > > raat ya ghanghor kale badaal ka din shani ka hoga, > > puri pakki shaam magar raat se pahle ka waqt rahu ka waqt lenge. > > subah sadik early mornig magar surya nikalne se poorva ushakaal ke > > samay ketu ka waqt hoga. > > kulbir , " bhuwanvashishtha " > > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Gurujan, > > > > > > While talking about the 'janma ka waqt', the author has > assigned > > > various parts of the day and night to various planets. The time > slot > > > of 3pm to 4pm has been left out.I checked the original book too > and > > > it has been left out in that too. > > > > > > Which planet could this time might belong to? > > > > > > ps: In the context of the above Goswami & Vashishtha have made > yet > > > another mistake, it appears. In the table Different Times / > Days of > > > Planets on page 69 they mention mercury [ positive ] and mercury > [ > > > negative ] along with Mars [+ ] and mars [ - ]. > > > > > > Could some one please throw light on these two ? > > > > > > with regards and naman to all gurujan, > > > > > > bhuwan > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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