return from foreign travel and KP

January 11, 2008

Dear Satish ji,

This is not the tested rule as not found practically applied

anywhere, and it seems for the students to try, as Shri Raichur

suggested below, (Msg#3620)

" Permanent stay abroad

My experience has been that if 12th house is in a FIXED SIGN, the

stay is permanent.

Try it out. "

Thanks and gegards,

tw

, " R Satish " <rsatish1942

wrote:

>

> Dear TW,

>

> Many Thanks for your survey results. It only proves

eery

> Rule is not sacrosanct,including those of Sri KSK.We shud change

with

> the times.

>

> There is more than what meets the Eye.

>

> Regards,

>

> Satish

, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > In a survey of 100 charts of foreign settlement, the Sub lord of

> > 12th cusp of 30 charts (out of 100) is found deposited in a

common

> > sign, 28 charts (out of 100) in a moveable sign, and 42 charts

> (out

> > of 100) in a fixed sign, ie. the Sub lord of 12th cusp in a

> moveable

> > sign for foreign settlement is not found working. (Msg#3836)

> >

> > In the File section

> >

> > New Researches

> > New Researches in KP

> >

> > FOREIGN SETTLEMENT.doc

> > A SURVEY OF 100 CHARTS OF FOREIGN SETTLEMENT

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > >

> > > On the ongoing discussion on permanency of stay

> > abroad,

> > >

> > > Please refer to pg.303 of Sri KSK 6th reader HORARY

ASTROLOGY.

> > >

> > > Quote..

> > > If Sub lord of 12th cusp is deposited in a common sign,he

will

> > go

> > > and come back. If it is a moveable sign, he will once and for

all

> > > leave the present place and never return. If in a fixed sign

it

> > > indicates he will never move out.

> > > Unquote..

> > >

> > > I trust this clarifies.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Satish

> > >

> > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji,

> > > >

> > > > 1. Thank you for sharing your practical finding.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Another point open to research is that one may not settle

> > > abroad,

> > > > if 12th cuspal sublord signifies 4th house (mother land).

For

> > > > instance, Male, 19-03-1962, 05:11:40 AM DST, Mordialloc,

> > Australia,

> > > > 28S00, 145E04, Asc Aq 19:34:11 (NKPA 23:14:21), a lot of

> foreign

> > > > travel and staying abroad but not possible to settle abroad,

as

> > > 12th

> > > > cuspal sublord Venus signifies 4th house along with 3,9,12

> > houses.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Very helful posting. Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@>

wrote:

> > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > My first thought was that the 4th house should be

involved

> as

> > it

> > > > is return to the home. I had a quick look at the few charts

of

> > > > people who I know returned recently and found that the 3rd

> house

> > is

> > > > there most of the time. Based on that I also adhere to the

> views

> > of

> > > > Tw ji that 3, 9 & 11 should be considered for the return to

> > home.

> > > > Also 4th house should be taken as the place where somebody

is

> > > > staying presently and not the permanent home.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > >

> > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 7:08 AM, Chittaranajn Ghosh

> > > > <chittaranajnghosh@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > I also agree with Mr Amitji it is important to take 2,9 &

11

> > for

> > > > considerations.

> > > > > With regards,

> > > > > Mr Ghosh.

> > > > >

> > > > > dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:21:49 AM

> > > > > Re: return from foreign travel and KP

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > Respected group members

> > > > > As for as my understanding is concerned

> > > > > 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th)

because

> > > > return

> > > > > from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house

is

> > > also

> > > > > logical because return journey means meeting with family

> > > > members .I

> > > > > support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis .

> > > > > With Regards

> > > > > AMIT

> > > > >

> > > > > -- In @gro ups.com, MK Viswanath

> > > > >

> > > > > <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sirs

> > > > > >

> > > > > > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign

residence)

> > > when

> > > > > signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home),

> > the

> > > > > native returns from foreign country to his native country

> > during

> > > > > d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit

agree

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Viswanath

> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Mr Rao

> > > > > > Even return to Home land would involve " long Travel " , so

> the

> > > 9th

> > > > > has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th

> (Home)

> > > > > should be considered.

> > > > > > good luck

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze,

> > > > > > For overseas travel the houses

> > > > > III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland

> > > (Home) ,

> > > > we

> > > > > should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered

> > > > opinion...

> > > > > > L.Y.Rao

> > > > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amit ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you

may

> > try

> > > > a

> > > > > > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided

> > below

> > > > for

> > > > > > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-

2008)

> > and

> > > > > > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of

transit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good luck!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tw

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7

> > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa,

Ra

> > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Ma

> > > > > > Ra conj 12

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ke conj 6

> > > > > > Ra conj Mo

> > > > > > Mo is aspected by Sa

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Me is aspected by Ma

> > > > > > Ke is aspected by Mo

> > > > > > Ra aspects 6

> > > > > > Ke aspects 12

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ke: Cnj 6

> > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)

> > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]);

> Cnj

> > Mo

> > > > (12,

> > > > > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12

> > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1

> > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3

> > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Me:

> > > > > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Su:

> > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by

Ma

> > [8,

> > > 2-

> > > >

> > > > > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6

> > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1

> > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)

> > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)

> > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ju:

> > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)

> > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)

> > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12)

> > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo

(12,

> > Asp

> > > by

> > > > Sa

> > > > > > [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12

> > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)

> > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-

7]);

> > Cnj Mo

> > > > > (12,

> > > > > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12

> > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ju:

> > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)

> > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)

> > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12)

> > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)

> > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Ju:

> > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Me:

> > > > > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10

> > > > > > Sublord of Me is Su:

> > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by

Ma

> > [8,

> > > 2-

> > > > > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > @gro ups.com, " vazeamit "

<vazeamit@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hello KP Gurus,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Pranam.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977

> > > > > > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharasht ra.

> > > > > > > birth time is 11:45 A.M.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the

principal

> > > > > > > significator is diff. houses.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9

> > > > > > > MOON 2,7,8,12

> > > > > > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11

> > > > > > > MERCURY 3,6,10

> > > > > > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12

> > > > > > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10

> > > > > > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11

> > > > > > > RAHU 2,7,8,12

> > > > > > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions.

> > > > > > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education

> > > > > > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education

> > > > > > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa

> > > > > > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa

> > > > > > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time

using

> > KP.

> > > > > > > my analysis showed i should return any time between

3rd

> > march

> > > > to

> > > > > > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat

> > > > retrograde

> > > > > > till

> > > > > > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there

> was

> > a

> > > > > > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i

have

> > > > > calculated

> > > > > > > could be wrong.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding

the

> > date

> > > > of

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > return journey to india.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanking you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sincerely,

> > > > > > > Amit

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January 11, 2008

Dear Madame Sujata Das,

You're talking 4 Step.

I've done KP.

Action other than words by 4 Step will be helpful to this forum.

Thanks and regards,

tw

January 11, 2008

This is checking of the rules. Sublord only or both sublord and its

starlord are applied as required according to the rules.

It's action of doing empirical research but not words for basic KP

principles.

For clear understanding of it, one may need to have sufficient KP

knowledge and thoroughly read the rules and the results.

Action is helpful, words are endless.

January 11, 2008

Dear Shri Tinwinji,

This is my first mail on this thread to You.Shri Bhaskar Basu is a different gentleman and I am different, first let me make it clear before one gets confused.

Normally when I have to check the resultsof any department of Life represented by the12 Cusps, I would see the Cuspal Sub Lord.next see where the Cuspal SubLord is placedand which Cusps does it own. Next I wouldsee the StarLord of this Cuspal SubLord andmaximum would see the Cuspal SubLord whether it confirms what the StarLord says.

I do not go to see further than this.

I will repeat, say I am looking at 2nd Cuspwhat it has to offer.I would see inOrder-

a) 2nd Cusp SubLordb) Where it is placed and owns what Cusps.c) StarLord of this SubLord ( Placement and Owership ) .

(Now shall we stop here or see the next stage ?)

d) SubLord of this starLord what figures it shows.

(Do we need to go any further than that ?)

I do not see any reason for the same.I am sure you too believe the same principle,or am I wrong ? But I think doing more than thiswould be a waste of time and would ultimately involvemost of the Planets and almost all the houses.So I believe one should limit himself to aparticular demarcated Line and not moveahead. Because it would mean like taking 7 out of 9 Ruling Planets as assessment.

I must take opportunity to admit that Your knowledgeis very much valued here by me, and also yourhelpful mails.

regards,Bhaskar.

, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> This is checking of the rules. Sublord only or both sublord and its > starlord are applied as required according to the rules.> > It's action of doing empirical research but not words for basic KP > principles.> > For clear understanding of it, one may need to have sufficient KP > knowledge and thoroughly read the rules and the results.> > Action is helpful, words are endless.>

January 11, 2008

Dear Bhaskar ji,

1. I agree with you that in KP (by Guruji KSK) only 3 steps, ie. plt

level, star level and sub level are considered. The same is in the

books of Shri Bhatt, the best narrator of KP. As per Kanak's

experience, one can get a correct prediction by thoroughly

considering all what are signifified in these 3 levels.

2. As well known, in 4 Step, it goes up the 4th step, ie. starlord

of sublord, and the sublord is no more decider but a significator.

It's 4 Step, not KP.

Thanks and regards,

tw

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Tinwinji,

>

> This is my first mail on this thread to You.

> Shri Bhaskar Basu is a different gentleman and I am different,

first let

> me make it clear before one gets confused.

>

> Normally when I have to check the results

> of any department of Life represented by the

> 12 Cusps, I would see the Cuspal Sub Lord.

> next see where the Cuspal SubLord is placed

> and which Cusps does it own. Next I would

> see the StarLord of this Cuspal SubLord and

> maximum would see the Cuspal SubLord whether

> it confirms what the StarLord says.

>

> I do not go to see further than this.

>

> I will repeat, say I am looking at 2nd Cusp

> what it has to offer.I would see in

> Order-

>

> a) 2nd Cusp SubLord

> b) Where it is placed and owns what Cusps.

> c) StarLord of this SubLord ( Placement and Owership ) .

>

> (Now shall we stop here or see the next stage ?)

>

> d) SubLord of this starLord what figures it shows.

>

> (Do we need to go any further than that ?)

>

> I do not see any reason for the same.

> I am sure you too believe the same principle,

> or am I wrong ? But I think doing more than this

> would be a waste of time and would ultimately involve

> most of the Planets and almost all the houses.

> So I believe one should limit himself to a

> particular demarcated Line and not move

> ahead. Because it would mean like taking 7 out of 9 Ruling Planets

as

> assessment.

>

> I must take opportunity to admit that Your knowledge

> is very much valued here by me, and also your

> helpful mails.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> > This is checking of the rules. Sublord only or both sublord and

its

> > starlord are applied as required according to the rules.

> >

> > It's action of doing empirical research but not words for basic

KP

> > principles.

> >

> > For clear understanding of it, one may need to have sufficient KP

> > knowledge and thoroughly read the rules and the results.

> >

> > Action is helpful, words are endless.

> >

>

January 11, 2008

Dear Sir,

Can you please help me how to get 4 steps books from the market as I am interested to read this book.

With regards,

Mr Ghosh.

tw853 <tw853 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:32:33 PM Re: return from foreign travel and KP

Dear Bhaskar ji,1. I agree with you that in KP (by Guruji KSK) only 3 steps, ie. plt level, star level and sub level are considered. The same is in the books of Shri Bhatt, the best narrator of KP. As per Kanak's experience, one can get a correct prediction by thoroughly considering all what are signifified in these 3 levels. 2. As well known, in 4 Step, it goes up the 4th step, ie. starlord of sublord, and the sublord is no more decider but a significator. It's 4 Step, not KP.Thanks and regards,tw @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Shri Tinwinji,> > This is my first mail on this thread to You.> Shri Bhaskar Basu is a different gentleman and I am different, first

let> me make it clear before one gets confused.> > Normally when I have to check the results> of any department of Life represented by the> 12 Cusps, I would see the Cuspal Sub Lord.> next see where the Cuspal SubLord is placed> and which Cusps does it own. Next I would> see the StarLord of this Cuspal SubLord and> maximum would see the Cuspal SubLord whether> it confirms what the StarLord says.> > I do not go to see further than this.> > I will repeat, say I am looking at 2nd Cusp> what it has to offer.I would see in> Order-> > a) 2nd Cusp SubLord> b) Where it is placed and owns what Cusps.> c) StarLord of this SubLord ( Placement and Owership ) .> > (Now shall we stop here or see the next stage ?)> > d) SubLord of this starLord what figures it shows.> > (Do we need to go

any further than that ?)> > I do not see any reason for the same.> I am sure you too believe the same principle,> or am I wrong ? But I think doing more than this> would be a waste of time and would ultimately involve> most of the Planets and almost all the houses.> So I believe one should limit himself to a> particular demarcated Line and not move> ahead. Because it would mean like taking 7 out of 9 Ruling Planets as> assessment.> > I must take opportunity to admit that Your knowledge> is very much valued here by me, and also your> helpful mails.> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> >> > This is

checking of the rules. Sublord only or both sublord and its> > starlord are applied as required according to the rules.> >> > It's action of doing empirical research but not words for basic KP> > principles.> >> > For clear understanding of it, one may need to have sufficient KP> > knowledge and thoroughly read the rules and the results.> >> > Action is helpful, words are endless.> >>

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January 12, 2008

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, Chittaranajn Ghosh

<chittaranajnghosh wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

> Can you please help me how to get 4 steps books from the market as

I am interested to read this book.

> With regards,

> Mr Ghosh.

>

> tw853 <tw853

>

> Friday, January 11, 2008 5:32:33 PM

> Re: return from foreign travel and KP

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> 1. I agree with you that in KP (by Guruji KSK) only 3 steps, ie.

plt

> level, star level and sub level are considered. The same is in the

> books of Shri Bhatt, the best narrator of KP. As per Kanak's

> experience, one can get a correct prediction by thoroughly

> considering all what are signifified in these 3 levels.

>

> 2. As well known, in 4 Step, it goes up the 4th step, ie. starlord

> of sublord, and the sublord is no more decider but a significator.

> It's 4 Step, not KP.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Tinwinji,

> >

> > This is my first mail on this thread to You.

> > Shri Bhaskar Basu is a different gentleman and I am different,

> first let

> > me make it clear before one gets confused.

> >

> > Normally when I have to check the results

> > of any department of Life represented by the

> > 12 Cusps, I would see the Cuspal Sub Lord.

> > next see where the Cuspal SubLord is placed

> > and which Cusps does it own. Next I would

> > see the StarLord of this Cuspal SubLord and

> > maximum would see the Cuspal SubLord whether

> > it confirms what the StarLord says.

> >

> > I do not go to see further than this.

> >

> > I will repeat, say I am looking at 2nd Cusp

> > what it has to offer.I would see in

> > Order-

> >

> > a) 2nd Cusp SubLord

> > b) Where it is placed and owns what Cusps.

> > c) StarLord of this SubLord ( Placement and Owership ) .

> >

> > (Now shall we stop here or see the next stage ?)

> >

> > d) SubLord of this starLord what figures it shows.

> >

> > (Do we need to go any further than that ?)

> >

> > I do not see any reason for the same.

> > I am sure you too believe the same principle,

> > or am I wrong ? But I think doing more than this

> > would be a waste of time and would ultimately involve

> > most of the Planets and almost all the houses.

> > So I believe one should limit himself to a

> > particular demarcated Line and not move

> > ahead. Because it would mean like taking 7 out of 9 Ruling

Planets

> as

> > assessment.

> >

> > I must take opportunity to admit that Your knowledge

> > is very much valued here by me, and also your

> > helpful mails.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> > >

> > > This is checking of the rules. Sublord only or both sublord

and

> its

> > > starlord are applied as required according to the rules.

> > >

> > > It's action of doing empirical research but not words for

basic

> KP

> > > principles.

> > >

> > > For clear understanding of it, one may need to have sufficient

KP

> > > knowledge and thoroughly read the rules and the results.

> > >

> > > Action is helpful, words are endless.

> > >

> >

>

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Respected ghosh jee

you can purchase direct from its author sunil

jee by sending RS 500/00.

With regards

AMIT

, Chittaranajn Ghosh

<chittaranajnghosh wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

> Can you please help me how to get 4 steps books from the market as

I am interested to read this book.

> With regards,

> Mr Ghosh.

>

> tw853 <tw853

>

> Friday, January 11, 2008 5:32:33 PM

> Re: return from foreign travel and KP

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> 1. I agree with you that in KP (by Guruji KSK) only 3 steps, ie.

plt

> level, star level and sub level are considered. The same is in the

> books of Shri Bhatt, the best narrator of KP. As per Kanak's

> experience, one can get a correct prediction by thoroughly

> considering all what are signifified in these 3 levels.

>

> 2. As well known, in 4 Step, it goes up the 4th step, ie. starlord

> of sublord, and the sublord is no more decider but a significator.

> It's 4 Step, not KP.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Tinwinji,

> >

> > This is my first mail on this thread to You.

> > Shri Bhaskar Basu is a different gentleman and I am different,

> first let

> > me make it clear before one gets confused.

> >

> > Normally when I have to check the results

> > of any department of Life represented by the

> > 12 Cusps, I would see the Cuspal Sub Lord.

> > next see where the Cuspal SubLord is placed

> > and which Cusps does it own. Next I would

> > see the StarLord of this Cuspal SubLord and

> > maximum would see the Cuspal SubLord whether

> > it confirms what the StarLord says.

> >

> > I do not go to see further than this.

> >

> > I will repeat, say I am looking at 2nd Cusp

> > what it has to offer.I would see in

> > Order-

> >

> > a) 2nd Cusp SubLord

> > b) Where it is placed and owns what Cusps.

> > c) StarLord of this SubLord ( Placement and Owership ) .

> >

> > (Now shall we stop here or see the next stage ?)

> >

> > d) SubLord of this starLord what figures it shows.

> >

> > (Do we need to go any further than that ?)

> >

> > I do not see any reason for the same.

> > I am sure you too believe the same principle,

> > or am I wrong ? But I think doing more than this

> > would be a waste of time and would ultimately involve

> > most of the Planets and almost all the houses.

> > So I believe one should limit himself to a

> > particular demarcated Line and not move

> > ahead. Because it would mean like taking 7 out of 9 Ruling

Planets

> as

> > assessment.

> >

> > I must take opportunity to admit that Your knowledge

> > is very much valued here by me, and also your

> > helpful mails.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> > >

> > > This is checking of the rules. Sublord only or both sublord

and

> its

> > > starlord are applied as required according to the rules.

> > >

> > > It's action of doing empirical research but not words for

basic

> KP

> > > principles.

> > >

> > > For clear understanding of it, one may need to have sufficient

KP

> > > knowledge and thoroughly read the rules and the results.

> > >

> > > Action is helpful, words are endless.

> > >

> >

>

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January 12, 2008

Dear sir,

I am requesting you to send me his adress for purchasing the 4 step books.

with regards,

Mr Ghosh.

dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 8:39:41 AM Re: return from foreign travel and KP

Respected ghosh jeeyou can purchase direct from its author sunil jee by sending RS 500/00.With regardsAMIT@gro ups.com, Chittaranajn Ghosh <chittaranajnghosh@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sir,> Can you please help me how to get 4 steps books from the market as I am interested to read this book.> With regards,> Mr Ghosh.> > > > tw853 <tw853> @gro ups.com> Friday, January 11, 2008 5:32:33 PM> Re: return from foreign travel and KP> > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > 1. I

agree with you that in KP (by Guruji KSK) only 3 steps, ie. plt > level, star level and sub level are considered. The same is in the > books of Shri Bhatt, the best narrator of KP. As per Kanak's > experience, one can get a correct prediction by thoroughly > considering all what are signifified in these 3 levels. > > 2. As well known, in 4 Step, it goes up the 4th step, ie. starlord > of sublord, and the sublord is no more decider but a significator. > It's 4 Step, not KP.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw > > @gro ups.com, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Shri Tinwinji,> > > > This is my first mail on this thread to You.> > Shri Bhaskar Basu is a different gentleman and I am different,

> first let> > me make it clear before one gets confused.> > > > Normally when I have to check the results> > of any department of Life represented by the> > 12 Cusps, I would see the Cuspal Sub Lord.> > next see where the Cuspal SubLord is placed> > and which Cusps does it own. Next I would> > see the StarLord of this Cuspal SubLord and> > maximum would see the Cuspal SubLord whether> > it confirms what the StarLord says.> > > > I do not go to see further than this.> > > > I will repeat, say I am looking at 2nd Cusp> > what it has to offer.I would see in> > Order-> > > > a) 2nd Cusp SubLord> > b) Where it is placed and owns what Cusps.> > c) StarLord of this SubLord ( Placement and Owership ) .> > > > (Now shall we stop here or

see the next stage ?)> > > > d) SubLord of this starLord what figures it shows.> > > > (Do we need to go any further than that ?)> > > > I do not see any reason for the same.> > I am sure you too believe the same principle,> > or am I wrong ? But I think doing more than this> > would be a waste of time and would ultimately involve> > most of the Planets and almost all the houses.> > So I believe one should limit himself to a> > particular demarcated Line and not move> > ahead. Because it would mean like taking 7 out of 9 Ruling Planets > as> > assessment.> > > > I must take opportunity to admit that Your knowledge> > is very much valued here by me, and also your> > helpful mails.> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > >

> > > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> > >> > > This is checking of the rules. Sublord only or both sublord and > its> > > starlord are applied as required according to the rules.> > >> > > It's action of doing empirical research but not words for basic > KP> > > principles.> > >> > > For clear understanding of it, one may need to have sufficient KP> > > knowledge and thoroughly read the rules and the results.> > >> > > Action is helpful, words are endless.> > >> >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _____________ ___> Looking for last minute shopping deals?

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-

His address is

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ph-022-25888179,cell-09819248179

-- In , Chittaranajn Ghosh

<chittaranajnghosh wrote:

>

> Dear sir,

> I am requesting you to send me his adress for purchasing the 4

step books.

> with regards,

> Mr Ghosh.

>

> dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar

>

> Saturday, January 12, 2008 8:39:41 AM

> Re: return from foreign travel and KP

>

> Respected ghosh jee

> you can purchase direct from its author sunil

> jee by sending RS 500/00.

> With regards

> AMIT

>

> @gro ups.com, Chittaranajn Ghosh

> <chittaranajnghosh@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > Can you please help me how to get 4 steps books from the market

as

> I am interested to read this book.

> > With regards,

> > Mr Ghosh.

> >

> > tw853 <tw853@>

> > @gro ups.com

> > Friday, January 11, 2008 5:32:33 PM

> > Re: return from foreign travel and KP

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > 1. I agree with you that in KP (by Guruji KSK) only 3 steps, ie.

> plt

> > level, star level and sub level are considered. The same is in

the

> > books of Shri Bhatt, the best narrator of KP. As per Kanak's

> > experience, one can get a correct prediction by thoroughly

> > considering all what are signifified in these 3 levels.

> >

> > 2. As well known, in 4 Step, it goes up the 4th step, ie.

starlord

> > of sublord, and the sublord is no more decider but a

significator.

> > It's 4 Step, not KP.

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > @gro ups.com, " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Tinwinji,

> > >

> > > This is my first mail on this thread to You.

> > > Shri Bhaskar Basu is a different gentleman and I am different,

> > first let

> > > me make it clear before one gets confused.

> > >

> > > Normally when I have to check the results

> > > of any department of Life represented by the

> > > 12 Cusps, I would see the Cuspal Sub Lord.

> > > next see where the Cuspal SubLord is placed

> > > and which Cusps does it own. Next I would

> > > see the StarLord of this Cuspal SubLord and

> > > maximum would see the Cuspal SubLord whether

> > > it confirms what the StarLord says.

> > >

> > > I do not go to see further than this.

> > >

> > > I will repeat, say I am looking at 2nd Cusp

> > > what it has to offer.I would see in

> > > Order-

> > >

> > > a) 2nd Cusp SubLord

> > > b) Where it is placed and owns what Cusps.

> > > c) StarLord of this SubLord ( Placement and Owership ) .

> > >

> > > (Now shall we stop here or see the next stage ?)

> > >

> > > d) SubLord of this starLord what figures it shows.

> > >

> > > (Do we need to go any further than that ?)

> > >

> > > I do not see any reason for the same.

> > > I am sure you too believe the same principle,

> > > or am I wrong ? But I think doing more than this

> > > would be a waste of time and would ultimately involve

> > > most of the Planets and almost all the houses.

> > > So I believe one should limit himself to a

> > > particular demarcated Line and not move

> > > ahead. Because it would mean like taking 7 out of 9 Ruling

> Planets

> > as

> > > assessment.

> > >

> > > I must take opportunity to admit that Your knowledge

> > > is very much valued here by me, and also your

> > > helpful mails.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > This is checking of the rules. Sublord only or both sublord

> and

> > its

> > > > starlord are applied as required according to the rules.

> > > >

> > > > It's action of doing empirical research but not words for

> basic

> > KP

> > > > principles.

> > > >

> > > > For clear understanding of it, one may need to have

sufficient

> KP

> > > > knowledge and thoroughly read the rules and the results.

> > > >

> > > > Action is helpful, words are endless.

> > > >

> > >

> >

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March 31, 2008

Hi,

I returned on 28th of Feb. 2008 just before the beginning of Jup-

Ketu-Mars dasha

Marsh antardasha started on 3rd of march. I think the difference is

due to the possible minute error in the birth time. [not sure].

thanks,

amit

, " vazeamit " <vazeamit wrote:

>

> Hello Raichur ji,

>

> Here is my tob, pob and dob .

>

> my birth date is 19/08/1977

> birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra.

> birth time is 11:45 A.M.

>

> and laso i did not understand the last comment in your posting

> " If Ketu is agegt of the plane appearing in the dba's of the

> recodred dates, then taht date can be the future retun date. "

>

> Thanks,

> Amit

>

> , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vazemat

> > You have given a good data. If you give DOB<POB.and Tob, one may

> check the timings with the DBA

> > A study howerver shows SUN not amomgst the dba of you teturn

dates.

> > If Ketu is agegt of the plane appearing in the dba's of the

> recodred dates, then taht date can be the future retun date.

> > good luck.

> >

> > vazeamit <vazeamit@> wrote: As

> per Raichurji's suggestion, I wrote the DBA for all the return

> > travel dates. And it looks like 2,4,8,11 are affecting the

return

> > date.

> >

> > But still i am not very happy with the result. Reson is as

> follows.

> > All the data is in Jupiter Dasha. so the houses that jup

> signifies

> > are always there.

> >

> > here is the data only for return journey dates.

> >

> > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education

> >

> > jup-jup-sat-moon

> >

> > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education

> >

> > jup-sat-mer-jup

> >

> > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa

> >

> > jup-sat-rahu-rahu

> >

> > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa

> >

> > jup-mer-sat-jup

> >

> > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa

> >

> > ???

> >

> > saturn is at 117-46-49 and sun is at 122-42-33 in kundali. Not

> sure

> > if Sun can give the results of sat. or not.

> >

> > I went through some messages here which discuss this but did

not

> > quite understand it. [ i am sorry i am a naive kp student].

> >

> > if yes, then I may return back in jup-ketu-sun i.e. after 22nd

of

> > january. or otherwise in jup-ketu-sat in july.

> >

> > thanks,

> > Amit

> >

> > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Amit

> > > Write out the DBA and SOOKSMA for the Dates you travel out

of

> > India, and for the Dates you returned. If you study these

> > carefully, you may find the solution for your travels.

> > > You have enough Data, for your self. Try it out.

> > >

> > > vazeamit <vazeamit@> wrote:

> > > Hello KP Gurus,

> > >

> > > Pranam.

> > >

> > > my birth date is 19/08/1977

> > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra.

> > > birth time is 11:45 A.M.

> > >

> > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal

> > > significator is diff. houses.

> > >

> > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9

> > > MOON 2,7,8,12

> > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11

> > > MERCURY 3,6,10

> > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12

> > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10

> > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11

> > > RAHU 2,7,8,12

> > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12

> > >

> > > Now I travelled on following occasions.

> > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education

> > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education

> > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa

> > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa

> > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa

> > >

> > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP.

> > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march

> to

> > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat

retrograde

> > till

> > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4]

> > >

> > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a

> > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have

> calculated

> > > could be wrong.

> > >

> > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date

of

> my

> > > return journey to india.

> > >

> > > Thanking you.

> > >

> > > sincerely,

> > > Amit

> > >

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