Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Hello KP Gurus, Pranam. my birth date is 19/08/1977 birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra. birth time is 11:45 A.M. using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal significator is diff. houses. SUN 1,3,6,7,9 MOON 2,7,8,12 MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 MERCURY 3,6,10 JUPITER 2,7,8,12 VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 RAHU 2,7,8,12 KETU 2,7,8,11,12 Now I travelled on following occasions. 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde till 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated could be wrong. I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my return journey to india. Thanking you. sincerely, Amit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Dear Amit ji, 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16. 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. Good luck! tw 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0) Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra Planets in own stars (*): Ma Ra conj 12 Ke conj 6 Ra conj Mo Mo is aspected by Sa Me is aspected by Ma Ke is aspected by Mo Ra aspects 6 Ke aspects 12 Planet Ke: Cnj 6 Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) Planet Ve+: 9; 1 Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 Sublord of Ve is Me: Starlord of Me is Su: 10 Planet Su: Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6 Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1 Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) Sublord of Mo is Ju: Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) Planet Ju: Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) Sublord of Sa is Ju: Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) Planet Me: Starlord of Me is Su: 10 Sublord of Me is Su: Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 , " vazeamit " <vazeamit wrote: > > Hello KP Gurus, > > Pranam. > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra. > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > significator is diff. houses. > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > MOON 2,7,8,12 > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > MERCURY 3,6,10 > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde till > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > could be wrong. > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > return journey to india. > > Thanking you. > > sincerely, > Amit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Dear tw853,Amit Vaze, For overseas travel the houses III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland(Home), we should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered opinion... L.Y.Rao GOOD LUCK !tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Amit ji,1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11.2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16.3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. Good luck!tw4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0)Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, RaPlanets in own stars (*): MaRa conj 12Ke conj 6Ra conj MoMo is aspected by SaMe is aspected by MaKe is aspected by MoRa aspects 6Ke aspects 12Planet Ke: Cnj 6Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12,Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Ve+: 9; 1Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3Sublord of Ve is Me:Starlord of Me is Su: 10Planet Su:Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Sublord of Mo is Ju:Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12)Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Ju:Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12)Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)Sublord of Sa is Ju:Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Me:Starlord of Me is Su: 10Sublord of Me is Su:Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 , "vazeamit" <vazeamit wrote:>> Hello KP Gurus,> > Pranam.> > > my birth date is 19/08/1977> birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra.> birth time is 11:45 A.M.> > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > significator is diff. houses.> > SUN 1,3,6,7,9> MOON 2,7,8,12> MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11> MERCURY 3,6,10> JUPITER 2,7,8,12> VENUS 1,3,7,9,10> SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11> RAHU 2,7,8,12 > KETU 2,7,8,11,12> > Now I travelled on following occasions.> 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education> 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa> 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa> 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa> > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP.> my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde till > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4]> > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > could be wrong.> > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > return journey to india.> > Thanking you.> > sincerely,> Amit> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Dear Amit Write out the DBA and SOOKSMA for the Dates you travel out of India, and for the Dates you returned. If you study these carefully, you may find the solution for your travels. You have enough Data, for your self. Try it out. vazeamit <vazeamit wrote: Hello KP Gurus,Pranam.my birth date is 19/08/1977birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra.birth time is 11:45 A.M.using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal significator is diff. houses.SUN 1,3,6,7,9MOON 2,7,8,12MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11MERCURY 3,6,10JUPITER 2,7,8,12VENUS 1,3,7,9,10SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11RAHU 2,7,8,12 KETU 2,7,8,11,12Now I travelled on following occasions.1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visai was trying to find out the return date this time using KP.my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde till 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4]But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated could be wrong.I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my return journey to india.Thanking you.sincerely,Amitraichur anant www.jaxtr.com\anantachar Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Dear Mr RaoEven return to Home land would involve "long Travel", so the 9th has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) should be considered.good luckYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear tw853,Amit Vaze, For overseas travel the houses III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland(Home), we should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered opinion... L.Y.Rao GOOD LUCK !tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Amit ji,1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11.2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16.3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. Good luck!tw4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0)Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, RaPlanets in own stars (*): MaRa conj 12Ke conj 6Ra conj MoMo is aspected by SaMe is aspected by MaKe is aspected by MoRa aspects 6Ke aspects 12Planet Ke: Cnj 6Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12,Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Ve+: 9; 1Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3Sublord of Ve is Me:Starlord of Me is Su: 10Planet Su:Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Sublord of Mo is Ju:Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12)Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Ju:Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12)Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)Sublord of Sa is Ju:Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Me:Starlord of Me is Su: 10Sublord of Me is Su:Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 , "vazeamit" <vazeamit wrote:>> Hello KP Gurus,> > Pranam.> > > my birth date is 19/08/1977> birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra.> birth time is 11:45 A.M.> > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > significator is diff. houses.> > SUN 1,3,6,7,9> MOON 2,7,8,12> MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11> MERCURY 3,6,10> JUPITER 2,7,8,12> VENUS 1,3,7,9,10> SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11> RAHU 2,7,8,12 > KETU 2,7,8,11,12> > Now I travelled on following occasions.> 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education> 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa> 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa> 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa> > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP.> my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde till > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4]> > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > could be wrong.> > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > return journey to india.> > Thanking you.> > sincerely,> Amit> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. raichur anant www.jaxtr.com\anantachar Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Sirs According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) when signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), the native returns from foreign country to his native country during d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree RegardsViswanathRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Mr RaoEven return to Home land would involve "long Travel", so the 9th has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) should be considered.good luckYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear tw853,Amit Vaze, For overseas travel the houses III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland(Home), we should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered opinion... L.Y.Rao GOOD LUCK !tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Amit ji,1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11.2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16.3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. Good luck!tw4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0)Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, RaPlanets in own stars (*): MaRa conj 12Ke conj 6Ra conj MoMo is aspected by SaMe is aspected by MaKe is aspected by MoRa aspects 6Ke aspects 12Planet Ke: Cnj 6Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12,Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Ve+: 9; 1Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3Sublord of Ve is Me:Starlord of Me is Su: 10Planet Su:Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Sublord of Mo is Ju:Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12)Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Ju:Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12)Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)Sublord of Sa is Ju:Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)Planet Me:Starlord of Me is Su: 10Sublord of Me is Su:Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 , "vazeamit" <vazeamit wrote:>> Hello KP Gurus,> > Pranam.> > > my birth date is 19/08/1977> birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra.> birth time is 11:45 A.M.> > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > significator is diff. houses.> > SUN 1,3,6,7,9> MOON 2,7,8,12> MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11> MERCURY 3,6,10> JUPITER 2,7,8,12> VENUS 1,3,7,9,10> SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11> RAHU 2,7,8,12 > KETU 2,7,8,11,12> > Now I travelled on following occasions.> 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education> 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa> 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa> 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa> > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP.> my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde till > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4]> > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > could be wrong.> > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > return journey to india.> > Thanking you.> > sincerely,> Amit> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. raichur anant www.jaxtr.com\anantachar Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Dear Friends, 1. It's also worthy to note Shri Raichur's remark in Msg#2631 of this Group as given below: " -------9, and 11 have rational justification. 4 is one's home. If a person is staying for a long time in one country, it may be treated as residence indicated by 4th, and then 3rd has relevance, as losing one's residence. In fact we use these houses, of course with 12, for going abroad or to a foreign environment. Including house 2, or 8 does not seem justifiable. " 2. As posted in Msg#2630, the houses in the following House Grouping are reviewed for 63 dasa items of 20 available charts. a/ 3,9 and 11 (Bhatt Narayana: Chamatkar Chintamani) b/ 3,9 and 11 (KP Reader IV, p 207) c/ 2,4 and 11 (K. Hariharan: Notable Persons & KP, p 47) d/ 2,8 and 11 (8th,12th from 9th, ending of long travels) 3. The appearance of each house out of 63 dasa items is found as follows. a/ 9th-- 30 (49%), b/ 3rd-- 26 (41%), c/ 11th-- 26 (41%), d/ 2nd-- 26 (41%), e/ 4th-- 23 (36%) & f/ 8th-- 18 (29%), 4. That is why in the KP House Grouping-Part 4 in KP-Ezine Jan 2008, www.kpastrloger.com, the grouping 3,9,11 is given as being found for better result. The rationale in KP Reader IV, p 207 is as follows: 3= leaving the place where one stays either temporarily or permanently 9= making a long journey 11= reunion with kith and kin 5. Foreign travel is signified by 3,9,12 and staying home is 2,8,11 (12 to 3,9,12, undoing) as per Shri Bhatt. 2,4,11 is for return of missing person (in KP Reader VI, page 260 & 310). 2= family, 4= home and 11= reunion. As per experience of Andrew ji, the owner of the short lived KP research group especially as per Shri Bhatt's books, 2,8,11 is end of frequent foreign travels and the signification of 4th house (mother land) doesn't allow to settle abroad. And so another house grouping of 2,4,8,11 is given in the KP House Grouping- Part 4. Regards, tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze, > For overseas travel the houses III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland(Home), we should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered opinion... > L.Y.Rao > GOOD LUCK ! > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Amit ji, > > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16. > > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > Good luck! > > tw > > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0) > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra > Planets in own stars (*): Ma > Ra conj 12 > > Ke conj 6 > Ra conj Mo > Mo is aspected by Sa > > Me is aspected by Ma > Ke is aspected by Mo > Ra aspects 6 > Ke aspects 12 > > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1 > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > Sublord of Ve is Me: > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > Planet Su: > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6 > Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1 > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Mo is Ju: > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa > [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo (12, > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Ju: > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > Sublord of Sa is Ju: > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Me: > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > Sublord of Me is Su: > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > , " vazeamit " <vazeamit@> wrote: > > > > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > Pranam. > > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra. > > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > significator is diff. houses. > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > > MOON 2,7,8,12 > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > > MERCURY 3,6,10 > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde > till > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > > could be wrong. > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > > return journey to india. > > > > Thanking you. > > > > sincerely, > > Amit > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 - Respected group members As for as my understanding is concerned 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th) because return from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house is also logical because return journey means meeting with family members .I support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis . With Regards AMIT -- In , MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_nair wrote: > > Sirs > > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) when signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), the native returns from foreign country to his native country during d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree > > Regards > Viswanath > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > Dear Mr Rao > Even return to Home land would involve " long Travel " , so the 9th has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) should be considered. > good luck > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze, > For overseas travel the houses III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland(Home), we should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered opinion... > L.Y.Rao > GOOD LUCK ! > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Amit ji, > > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16. > > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > Good luck! > > tw > > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0) > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra > Planets in own stars (*): Ma > Ra conj 12 > > Ke conj 6 > Ra conj Mo > Mo is aspected by Sa > > Me is aspected by Ma > Ke is aspected by Mo > Ra aspects 6 > Ke aspects 12 > > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1 > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > Sublord of Ve is Me: > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > Planet Su: > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6 > Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1 > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Mo is Ju: > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa > [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo (12, > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Ju: > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > Sublord of Sa is Ju: > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Me: > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > Sublord of Me is Su: > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > , " vazeamit " <vazeamit@> wrote: > > > > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > Pranam. > > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra. > > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > significator is diff. houses. > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > > MOON 2,7,8,12 > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > > MERCURY 3,6,10 > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde > till > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > > could be wrong. > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > > return journey to india. > > > > Thanking you. > > > > sincerely, > > Amit > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > > > > raichur anant > www.jaxtr.com\anantachar > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Respected members, Sir, Which cuspal sub-lord indicates home-returning? Sub of the 4th cusp or the sub of the 12th cusp? Regards, sk , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Amit ji, > > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16. > > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > Good luck! > > tw > > > > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0) > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra > Planets in own stars (*): Ma > Ra conj 12 > > Ke conj 6 > Ra conj Mo > Mo is aspected by Sa > > Me is aspected by Ma > Ke is aspected by Mo > Ra aspects 6 > Ke aspects 12 > > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1 > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > Sublord of Ve is Me: > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > Planet Su: > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6 > Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1 > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Mo is Ju: > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa > [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Ju: > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > Sublord of Sa is Ju: > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Me: > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > Sublord of Me is Su: > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > > , " vazeamit " <vazeamit@> wrote: > > > > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > Pranam. > > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra. > > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > significator is diff. houses. > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > > MOON 2,7,8,12 > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > > MERCURY 3,6,10 > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde > till > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > > could be wrong. > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > > return journey to india. > > > > Thanking you. > > > > sincerely, > > Amit > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 As per Raichurji's suggestion, I wrote the DBA for all the return travel dates. And it looks like 2,4,8,11 are affecting the return date. But still i am not very happy with the result. Reson is as follows. All the data is in Jupiter Dasha. so the houses that jup signifies are always there. here is the data only for return journey dates. 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education jup-jup-sat-moon 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education jup-sat-mer-jup 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa jup-sat-rahu-rahu 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa jup-mer-sat-jup 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa ??? saturn is at 117-46-49 and sun is at 122-42-33 in kundali. Not sure if Sun can give the results of sat. or not. I went through some messages here which discuss this but did not quite understand it. [ i am sorry i am a naive kp student]. if yes, then I may return back in jup-ketu-sun i.e. after 22nd of january. or otherwise in jup-ketu-sat in july. thanks, Amit , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Dear Amit > Write out the DBA and SOOKSMA for the Dates you travel out of India, and for the Dates you returned. If you study these carefully, you may find the solution for your travels. > You have enough Data, for your self. Try it out. > > > vazeamit <vazeamit wrote: > Hello KP Gurus, > > Pranam. > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra. > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > significator is diff. houses. > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > MOON 2,7,8,12 > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > MERCURY 3,6,10 > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde till > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > could be wrong. > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > return journey to india. > > Thanking you. > > sincerely, > Amit raichur anant > www.jaxtr.com\anantachar > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Friends, I also agree with Mr Amitji it is important to take 2,9 & 11 for considerations. With regards, Mr Ghosh. dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:21:49 AM Re: return from foreign travel and KP -Respected group membersAs for as my understanding is concerned 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th) because return from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house is also logical because return journey means meeting with family members .I support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis .With RegardsAMIT-- In @gro ups.com, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair wrote:>> Sirs> > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) when signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), the native returns from foreign country to his native country during d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree> > Regards> Viswanath> Raichur-a-r <raichurar@. ..> wrote:> Dear Mr Rao> Even return to Home land would involve "long Travel", so the 9th has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) should be considered.> good luck> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@. ..> wrote: > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze,> For overseas travel the houses III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland(Home) , we should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered opinion...> L.Y.Rao> GOOD LUCK !> tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Amit ji,> > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11.> > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16.> > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > Good luck!> > tw> > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0)> > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7> Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra> Planets in own stars (*): Ma> Ra conj 12> > Ke conj 6> Ra conj Mo> Mo is aspected by Sa> > Me is aspected by Ma> Ke is aspected by Mo> Ra aspects 6> Ke aspects 12> > Planet Ke: Cnj 6> Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)> Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12,> Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12> Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Ve+: 9; 1> Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3> Sublord of Ve is Me:> Starlord of Me is Su: 10> > Planet Su:> Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-> 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6> Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1> Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3> > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)> Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> Sublord of Mo is Ju:> Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12)> Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)> > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa> [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12> Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12> Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Ju:> Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)> Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12)> Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)> Sublord of Sa is Ju:> Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Me:> Starlord of Me is Su: 10> Sublord of Me is Su:> Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-> 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12> > @gro ups.com, "vazeamit" <vazeamit@> wrote:> >> > Hello KP Gurus,> > > > Pranam.> > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977> > birth place is ratnagiri,maharasht ra.> > birth time is 11:45 A.M.> > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > significator is diff. houses.> > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9> > MOON 2,7,8,12> > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11> > MERCURY 3,6,10> > JUPITER 2,7,8,12> > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10> > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11> > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12> > > > Now I travelled on following occasions.> > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education> > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa> > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa> > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa> > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP.> > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde > till > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4]> > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > > could be wrong.> > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > > return journey to india.> > > > Thanking you.> > > > sincerely,> > Amit> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > > > > raichur anant> www.jaxtr.com\ anantachar> > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Friends, My first thought was that the 4th house should be involved as it is return to the home. I had a quick look at the few charts of people who I know returned recently and found that the 3rd house is there most of the time. Based on that I also adhere to the views of Tw ji that 3, 9 & 11 should be considered for the return to home. Also 4th house should be taken as the place where somebody is staying presently and not the permanent home. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Jan 8, 2008 7:08 AM, Chittaranajn Ghosh <chittaranajnghosh wrote: Dear Friends, I also agree with Mr Amitji it is important to take 2,9 & 11 for considerations. With regards, Mr Ghosh. dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:21:49 AM Re: return from foreign travel and KP -Respected group membersAs for as my understanding is concerned 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th) because return from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house is also logical because return journey means meeting with family members .I support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis .With RegardsAMIT-- In @gro ups.com, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair wrote:>> Sirs> > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) when signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), the native returns from foreign country to his native country during d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree> > Regards> Viswanath> Raichur-a-r <raichurar@. ..> wrote: > Dear Mr Rao> Even return to Home land would involve " long Travel " , so the 9th has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) should be considered.> good luck> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@. ..> wrote: > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze,> For overseas travel the houses III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland(Home) , we should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered opinion... > L.Y.Rao> GOOD LUCK !> tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Amit ji,> > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16.> > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > Good luck!> > tw> > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0)> > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7> Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra> Planets in own stars (*): Ma > Ra conj 12> > Ke conj 6> Ra conj Mo> Mo is aspected by Sa> > Me is aspected by Ma> Ke is aspected by Mo> Ra aspects 6> Ke aspects 12> > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)> Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12,> Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12> Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1> Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3> Sublord of Ve is Me:> Starlord of Me is Su: 10> > Planet Su:> Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6> Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1> Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3> > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)> Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Mo is Ju:> Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)> > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa> [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12> Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12> Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Ju:> Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)> Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12)> Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)> Sublord of Sa is Ju: > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Me:> Starlord of Me is Su: 10> Sublord of Me is Su:> Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-> 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > @gro ups.com, " vazeamit " <vazeamit@> wrote:> >> > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > Pranam.> > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977> > birth place is ratnagiri,maharasht ra.> > birth time is 11:45 A.M.> > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > significator is diff. houses.> > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9> > MOON 2,7,8,12> > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11> > MERCURY 3,6,10> > JUPITER 2,7,8,12> > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11> > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12> > > > Now I travelled on following occasions.> > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa> > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa> > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP.> > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde > till > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4]> > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > > could be wrong.> > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > > return journey to india.> > > > Thanking you. > > > > sincerely,> > Amit> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > > > > raichur anant> www.jaxtr.com\ anantachar> > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Very helful posting. ThanksPunit Pandey <punitp wrote: Dear Friends, My first thought was that the 4th house should be involved as it is return to the home. I had a quick look at the few charts of people who I know returned recently and found that the 3rd house is there most of the time. Based on that I also adhere to the views of Tw ji that 3, 9 & 11 should be considered for the return to home. Also 4th house should be taken as the place where somebody is staying presently and not the permanent home. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Jan 8, 2008 7:08 AM, Chittaranajn Ghosh <chittaranajnghosh > wrote: Dear Friends, I also agree with Mr Amitji it is important to take 2,9 & 11 for considerations. With regards, Mr Ghosh. dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar > Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:21:49 AM Re: return from foreign travel and KP -Respected group membersAs for as my understanding is concerned 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th) because return from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house is also logical because return journey means meeting with family members .I support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis .With RegardsAMIT-- In @gro ups.com, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair wrote:>> Sirs> > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) when signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), the native returns from foreign country to his native country during d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree> > Regards> Viswanath> Raichur-a-r <raichurar@. ..> wrote: > Dear Mr Rao> Even return to Home land would involve "long Travel", so the 9th has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) should be considered.> good luck> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@. ..> wrote: > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze,> For overseas travel the houses III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland(Home) , we should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered opinion... > L.Y.Rao> GOOD LUCK !> tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Amit ji,> > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16.> > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > Good luck!> > tw> > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0)> > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7> Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra> Planets in own stars (*): Ma > Ra conj 12> > Ke conj 6> Ra conj Mo> Mo is aspected by Sa> > Me is aspected by Ma> Ke is aspected by Mo> Ra aspects 6> Ke aspects 12> > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)> Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12,> Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12> Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1> Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3> Sublord of Ve is Me:> Starlord of Me is Su: 10> > Planet Su:> Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6> Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1> Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3> > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)> Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Mo is Ju:> Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)> > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa> [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12> Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12> Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Ju:> Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)> Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12)> Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)> Sublord of Sa is Ju: > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Me:> Starlord of Me is Su: 10> Sublord of Me is Su:> Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-> 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > @gro ups.com, "vazeamit" <vazeamit@> wrote:> >> > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > Pranam.> > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977> > birth place is ratnagiri,maharasht ra.> > birth time is 11:45 A.M.> > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > significator is diff. houses.> > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9> > MOON 2,7,8,12> > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11> > MERCURY 3,6,10> > JUPITER 2,7,8,12> > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11> > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12> > > > Now I travelled on following occasions.> > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa> > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa> > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP.> > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde > till > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4]> > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > > could be wrong.> > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > > return journey to india.> > > > Thanking you. > > > > sincerely,> > Amit> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > > > > raichur anant> www.jaxtr.com\ anantachar> > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. raichur anant www.jaxtr.com\anantachar Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. 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Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear VazematYou have given a good data. If you give DOB<POB.and Tob, one may check the timings with the DBAA study howerver shows SUN not amomgst the dba of you teturn dates.If Ketu is agegt of the plane appearing in the dba's of the recodred dates, then taht date can be the future retun date.good luck.vazeamit <vazeamit wrote: As per Raichurji's suggestion, I wrote the DBA for all the return travel dates. And it looks like 2,4,8,11 are affecting the return date. But still i am not very happy with the result. Reson is as follows. All the data is in Jupiter Dasha. so the houses that jup signifies are always there. here is the data only for return journey dates. 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education jup-jup-sat-moon 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education jup-sat-mer-jup 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa jup-sat-rahu-rahu 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa jup-mer-sat-jup 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa ??? saturn is at 117-46-49 and sun is at 122-42-33 in kundali. Not sure if Sun can give the results of sat. or not. I went through some messages here which discuss this but did not quite understand it. [ i am sorry i am a naive kp student]. if yes, then I may return back in jup-ketu-sun i.e. after 22nd of january. or otherwise in jup-ketu-sat in july. thanks, Amit , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Dear Amit > Write out the DBA and SOOKSMA for the Dates you travel out of India, and for the Dates you returned. If you study these carefully, you may find the solution for your travels. > You have enough Data, for your self. Try it out. > > > vazeamit <vazeamit wrote: > Hello KP Gurus, > > Pranam. > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra. > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > significator is diff. houses. > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > MOON 2,7,8,12 > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > MERCURY 3,6,10 > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde till > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > could be wrong. > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > return journey to india. > > Thanking you. > > sincerely, > Amit > > > > > > > raichur anant > www.jaxtr.com\anantachar > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > raichur anant www.jaxtr.com\anantachar Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hello Raichur ji, Here is my tob, pob and dob . my birth date is 19/08/1977 birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra. birth time is 11:45 A.M. and laso i did not understand the last comment in your posting " If Ketu is agegt of the plane appearing in the dba's of the recodred dates, then taht date can be the future retun date. " Thanks, Amit , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Dear Vazemat > You have given a good data. If you give DOB<POB.and Tob, one may check the timings with the DBA > A study howerver shows SUN not amomgst the dba of you teturn dates. > If Ketu is agegt of the plane appearing in the dba's of the recodred dates, then taht date can be the future retun date. > good luck. > > > vazeamit <vazeamit wrote: As per Raichurji's suggestion, I wrote the DBA for all the return > travel dates. And it looks like 2,4,8,11 are affecting the return > date. > > But still i am not very happy with the result. Reson is as follows. > All the data is in Jupiter Dasha. so the houses that jup signifies > are always there. > > here is the data only for return journey dates. > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > jup-jup-sat-moon > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > jup-sat-mer-jup > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > jup-sat-rahu-rahu > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > jup-mer-sat-jup > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > ??? > > saturn is at 117-46-49 and sun is at 122-42-33 in kundali. Not sure > if Sun can give the results of sat. or not. > > I went through some messages here which discuss this but did not > quite understand it. [ i am sorry i am a naive kp student]. > > if yes, then I may return back in jup-ketu-sun i.e. after 22nd of > january. or otherwise in jup-ketu-sat in july. > > thanks, > Amit > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit > > Write out the DBA and SOOKSMA for the Dates you travel out of > India, and for the Dates you returned. If you study these > carefully, you may find the solution for your travels. > > You have enough Data, for your self. Try it out. > > > > > > vazeamit <vazeamit@> wrote: > > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > Pranam. > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra. > > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > significator is diff. houses. > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > > MOON 2,7,8,12 > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > > MERCURY 3,6,10 > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde > till > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > > could be wrong. > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > > return journey to india. > > > > Thanking you. > > > > sincerely, > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raichur anant > > www.jaxtr.com\anantachar > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > Search. > > raichur anant > www.jaxtr.com\anantachar > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Friend, the sub of the 12th cusp. Regards, tw , " sujatkaram " <sujatkaram wrote: > > Respected members, > Sir, > Which cuspal sub-lord indicates home-returning? Sub of the 4th cusp > or the sub of the 12th cusp? > Regards, > sk , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit ji, > > > > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a > > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for > > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16. > > > > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and > > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > > > Good luck! > > > > tw > > > > > > > > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0) > > > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra > > Planets in own stars (*): Ma > > Ra conj 12 > > > > Ke conj 6 > > Ra conj Mo > > Mo is aspected by Sa > > > > Me is aspected by Ma > > Ke is aspected by Mo > > Ra aspects 6 > > Ke aspects 12 > > > > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo (12, > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1 > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > Sublord of Ve is Me: > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > > Planet Su: > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6 > > Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1 > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Mo is Ju: > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa > > [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo (12, > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Ju: > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > Sublord of Sa is Ju: > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Me: > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > Sublord of Me is Su: > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > > > > > , " vazeamit " <vazeamit@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > > > Pranam. > > > > > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharashtra. > > > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > > significator is diff. houses. > > > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > > > MOON 2,7,8,12 > > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > > > MERCURY 3,6,10 > > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10,11 > > > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde > > till > > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have > calculated > > > could be wrong. > > > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of > my > > > return journey to india. > > > > > > Thanking you. > > > > > > sincerely, > > > Amit > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Punitji, Amitji and others My husband wants to go back to india nextyear. We live in UK now and been here for abt 9 yrs.Can u see in his chart whether it will happen becos he has been saying this for quite a longtime and which is better for him.....to stay in UK or go to India. His DOB: 2nd june 1968, TOB:15:30hrs, POB: chennai,India Thanks and regards Praveena Punit Pandey <punitp Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 4:52:14 AMRe: Re: return from foreign travel and KP Dear Friends, My first thought was that the 4th house should be involved as it is return to the home. I had a quick look at the few charts of people who I know returned recently and found that the 3rd house is there most of the time. Based on that I also adhere to the views of Tw ji that 3, 9 & 11 should be considered for the return to home. Also 4th house should be taken as the place where somebody is staying presently and not the permanent home. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Jan 8, 2008 7:08 AM, Chittaranajn Ghosh <chittaranajnghosh@ > wrote: Dear Friends, I also agree with Mr Amitji it is important to take 2,9 & 11 for considerations. With regards, Mr Ghosh. dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar@ >@gro ups.comSaturday, January 5, 2008 8:21:49 AM Re: return from foreign travel and KP -Respected group membersAs for as my understanding is concerned 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th) because return from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house is also logical because return journey means meeting with family members .I support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis .With RegardsAMIT-- In @gro ups.com, MK Viswanath <astrologervishy_ nair wrote:>> Sirs> > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) when signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), the native returns from foreign country to his native country during d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree> > Regards> Viswanath> Raichur-a-r <raichurar@. ..> wrote: > Dear Mr Rao> Even return to Home land would involve "long Travel", so the 9th has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) should be considered.> good luck> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@. ..> wrote: > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze,> For overseas travel the houses III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland(Home) , we should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered opinion... > L.Y.Rao> GOOD LUCK !> tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Amit ji,> > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16.> > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > Good luck!> > tw> > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0)> > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7> Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra> Planets in own stars (*): Ma > Ra conj 12> > Ke conj 6> Ra conj Mo> Mo is aspected by Sa> > Me is aspected by Ma> Ke is aspected by Mo> Ra aspects 6> Ke aspects 12> > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)> Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12,> Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12> Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1> Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3> Sublord of Ve is Me:> Starlord of Me is Su: 10> > Planet Su:> Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6> Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1> Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3> > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)> Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Mo is Ju:> Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)> > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa> [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12> Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12> Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Ju:> Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5)> Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12)> Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7)> Sublord of Sa is Ju: > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11)> > Planet Me:> Starlord of Me is Su: 10> Sublord of Me is Su:> Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-> 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > @gro ups.com, "vazeamit" <vazeamit@> wrote:> >> > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > Pranam.> > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977> > birth place is ratnagiri,maharasht ra.> > birth time is 11:45 A.M.> > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > significator is diff. houses.> > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9> > MOON 2,7,8,12> > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11> > MERCURY 3,6,10> > JUPITER 2,7,8,12> > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11> > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12> > > > Now I travelled on following occasions.> > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education> > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa> > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa> > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa> > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP.> > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde > till > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4]> > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have calculated > > could be wrong.> > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of my > > return journey to india.> > > > Thanking you. > > > > sincerely,> > Amit> >> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > > > > raichur anant> www.jaxtr.com\ anantachar> > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Punit Pandey ji, 1. Thank you for sharing your practical finding. 2. Another point open to research is that one may not settle abroad, if 12th cuspal sublord signifies 4th house (mother land). For instance, Male, 19-03-1962, 05:11:40 AM DST, Mordialloc, Australia, 28S00, 145E04, Asc Aq 19:34:11 (NKPA 23:14:21), a lot of foreign travel and staying abroad but not possible to settle abroad, as 12th cuspal sublord Venus signifies 4th house along with 3,9,12 houses. Regards, tw , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Very helful posting. Thanks > > > Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > Dear Friends, > > My first thought was that the 4th house should be involved as it is return to the home. I had a quick look at the few charts of people who I know returned recently and found that the 3rd house is there most of the time. Based on that I also adhere to the views of Tw ji that 3, 9 & 11 should be considered for the return to home. Also 4th house should be taken as the place where somebody is staying presently and not the permanent home. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On Jan 8, 2008 7:08 AM, Chittaranajn Ghosh <chittaranajnghosh wrote: > > Dear Friends, > I also agree with Mr Amitji it is important to take 2,9 & 11 for considerations. > With regards, > Mr Ghosh. > > > > dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar > > Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:21:49 AM > Re: return from foreign travel and KP > > > > - > Respected group members > As for as my understanding is concerned > 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th) because return > from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house is also > logical because return journey means meeting with family members .I > support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis . > With Regards > AMIT > > > -- In @gro ups.com, MK Viswanath > > <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote: > > > > Sirs > > > > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) when > signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), the > native returns from foreign country to his native country during > d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree > > > > Regards > > Viswanath > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> wrote: > > Dear Mr Rao > > Even return to Home land would involve " long Travel " , so the 9th > has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) > should be considered. > > good luck > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> wrote: > > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze, > > For overseas travel the houses > III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland(Home) , we > should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered opinion... > > L.Y.Rao > > GOOD LUCK ! > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear Amit ji, > > > > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a > > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for > > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16. > > > > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and > > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > > > Good luck! > > > > tw > > > > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0) > > > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra > > Planets in own stars (*): Ma > > Ra conj 12 > > > > Ke conj 6 > > Ra conj Mo > > Mo is aspected by Sa > > > > Me is aspected by Ma > > Ke is aspected by Mo > > Ra aspects 6 > > Ke aspects 12 > > > > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo (12, > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1 > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > Sublord of Ve is Me: > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > > Planet Su: > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6 > > Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1 > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Mo is Ju: > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa > > [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo > (12, > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Ju: > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > Sublord of Sa is Ju: > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Me: > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > Sublord of Me is Su: > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " vazeamit " <vazeamit@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > > > Pranam. > > > > > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharasht ra. > > > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > > significator is diff. houses. > > > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > > > MOON 2,7,8,12 > > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > MERCURY 3,6,10 > > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde > > till > > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have > calculated > > > could be wrong. > > > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of > my > > > return journey to india. > > > > > > Thanking you. > > > > > > sincerely, > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > > > > > > > > > raichur anant > > www.jaxtr.com\ anantachar > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > > > > > > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Friends, On the ongoing discussion on permanency of stay abroad, Please refer to pg.303 of Sri KSK 6th reader HORARY ASTROLOGY. Quote.. If Sub lord of 12th cusp is deposited in a common sign,he will go and come back. If it is a moveable sign, he will once and for all leave the present place and never return. If in a fixed sign it indicates he will never move out. Unquote.. I trust this clarifies. Regards, Satish , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > 1. Thank you for sharing your practical finding. > > 2. Another point open to research is that one may not settle abroad, > if 12th cuspal sublord signifies 4th house (mother land). For > instance, Male, 19-03-1962, 05:11:40 AM DST, Mordialloc, Australia, > 28S00, 145E04, Asc Aq 19:34:11 (NKPA 23:14:21), a lot of foreign > travel and staying abroad but not possible to settle abroad, as 12th > cuspal sublord Venus signifies 4th house along with 3,9,12 houses. > > Regards, > > tw > > > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > > > Very helful posting. Thanks > > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > > > My first thought was that the 4th house should be involved as it > is return to the home. I had a quick look at the few charts of > people who I know returned recently and found that the 3rd house is > there most of the time. Based on that I also adhere to the views of > Tw ji that 3, 9 & 11 should be considered for the return to home. > Also 4th house should be taken as the place where somebody is > staying presently and not the permanent home. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 7:08 AM, Chittaranajn Ghosh > <chittaranajnghosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > I also agree with Mr Amitji it is important to take 2,9 & 11 for > considerations. > > With regards, > > Mr Ghosh. > > > > > > > > dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar@> > > > > Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:21:49 AM > > Re: return from foreign travel and KP > > > > > > > > - > > Respected group members > > As for as my understanding is concerned > > 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th) because > return > > from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house is also > > logical because return journey means meeting with family > members .I > > support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis . > > With Regards > > AMIT > > > > > > -- In @gro ups.com, MK Viswanath > > > > <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote: > > > > > > Sirs > > > > > > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) when > > signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), the > > native returns from foreign country to his native country during > > d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree > > > > > > Regards > > > Viswanath > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> wrote: > > > Dear Mr Rao > > > Even return to Home land would involve " long Travel " , so the 9th > > has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) > > should be considered. > > > good luck > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> wrote: > > > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze, > > > For overseas travel the houses > > III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland (Home) , > we > > should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered > opinion... > > > L.Y.Rao > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > Dear Amit ji, > > > > > > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try > a > > > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > > > > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below > for > > > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16. > > > > > > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and > > > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > tw > > > > > > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0) > > > > > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra > > > Planets in own stars (*): Ma > > > Ra conj 12 > > > > > > Ke conj 6 > > > Ra conj Mo > > > Mo is aspected by Sa > > > > > > Me is aspected by Ma > > > Ke is aspected by Mo > > > Ra aspects 6 > > > Ke aspects 12 > > > > > > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo > (12, > > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1 > > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > Sublord of Ve is Me: > > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > > > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6 > > > Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1 > > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > Sublord of Mo is Ju: > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > > > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by > Sa > > > [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo > > (12, > > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > Planet Ju: > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > Sublord of Sa is Ju: > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > Planet Me: > > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > Sublord of Me is Su: > > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " vazeamit " <vazeamit@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > > > > > Pranam. > > > > > > > > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > > > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharasht ra. > > > > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > > > > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > > > significator is diff. houses. > > > > > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > > > > MOON 2,7,8,12 > > > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > > MERCURY 3,6,10 > > > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > > > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > > > > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > > > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > > > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march > to > > > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat > retrograde > > > till > > > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > > > > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have > > calculated > > > > could be wrong. > > > > > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date > of > > my > > > > return journey to india. > > > > > > > > Thanking you. > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raichur anant > > > www.jaxtr.com\ anantachar > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Forgot the famous last words? 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Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 , Chittaranajn Ghosh <chittaranajnghosh wrote: > > Dear Friends, > I also agree with Mr Amitji it is important to take 2,9 & 11 for considerations. > With regards, > Mr Ghosh. > > > > dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar > > Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:21:49 AM > Re: return from foreign travel and KP > > - > Respected group members > As for as my understanding is concerned > 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th) because return > from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house is also > logical because return journey means meeting with family members .I > support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis . > With Regards > AMIT > > -- In @gro ups.com, MK Viswanath > <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote: > > > > Sirs > > > > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) when > signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), the > native returns from foreign country to his native country during > d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree > > > > Regards > > Viswanath > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> wrote: > > Dear Mr Rao > > Even return to Home land would involve " long Travel " , so the 9th > has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) > should be considered. > > good luck > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> wrote: > > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze, > > For overseas travel the houses > III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland(Home) , we > should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered opinion... > > L.Y.Rao > > GOOD LUCK ! > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear Amit ji, > > > > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a > > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for > > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16. > > > > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and > > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > > > Good luck! > > > > tw > > > > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0) > > > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra > > Planets in own stars (*): Ma > > Ra conj 12 > > > > Ke conj 6 > > Ra conj Mo > > Mo is aspected by Sa > > > > Me is aspected by Ma > > Ke is aspected by Mo > > Ra aspects 6 > > Ke aspects 12 > > > > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo (12, > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1 > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > Sublord of Ve is Me: > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > > Planet Su: > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6 > > Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1 > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Mo is Ju: > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa > > [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo > (12, > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Ju: > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > Sublord of Sa is Ju: > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Me: > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > Sublord of Me is Su: > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > > > @gro ups.com, " vazeamit " <vazeamit@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > > > Pranam. > > > > > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharasht ra. > > > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > > significator is diff. houses. > > > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > > > MOON 2,7,8,12 > > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > MERCURY 3,6,10 > > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde > > till > > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have > calculated > > > could be wrong. > > > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of > my > > > return journey to india. > > > > > > Thanking you. > > > > > > sincerely, > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > > > > > > > > > raichur anant > > www.jaxtr.com\ anantachar > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > > > > > > > > > ___________________ _______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Moon,karaka for the mind, governs the mind intellect and other higher faculities of the central nervous system. KP House Grouping- Part 2 (KPE-Zine Nov 2007, www.loger.com ) Intelligent thinking, if 5th sublord signifies 5,11,3,9,10,1 houses. Loose thinking, if 5th sublord signifies4,8,6,1,12 and connected to Ra or Ke. , Chittaranajn Ghosh <chittaranajnghosh wrote: > > Dear Friends, > I also agree with Mr Amitji it is important to take 2,9 & 11 for considerations. > With regards, > Mr Ghosh. > > > > dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar > > Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:21:49 AM > Re: return from foreign travel and KP > > - > Respected group members > As for as my understanding is concerned > 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th) because return > from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house is also > logical because return journey means meeting with family members .I > support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis . > With Regards > AMIT > > -- In @gro ups.com, MK Viswanath > <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote: > > > > Sirs > > > > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) when > signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), the > native returns from foreign country to his native country during > d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree > > > > Regards > > Viswanath > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> wrote: > > Dear Mr Rao > > Even return to Home land would involve " long Travel " , so the 9th > has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) > should be considered. > > good luck > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> wrote: > > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze, > > For overseas travel the houses > III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland(Home) , we > should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered opinion... > > L.Y.Rao > > GOOD LUCK ! > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear Amit ji, > > > > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try a > > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below for > > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16. > > > > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008)and > > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > > > Good luck! > > > > tw > > > > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0) > > > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra > > Planets in own stars (*): Ma > > Ra conj 12 > > > > Ke conj 6 > > Ra conj Mo > > Mo is aspected by Sa > > > > Me is aspected by Ma > > Ke is aspected by Mo > > Ra aspects 6 > > Ke aspects 12 > > > > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo (12, > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1 > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > Sublord of Ve is Me: > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > > Planet Su: > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6 > > Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1 > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Mo is Ju: > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp by Sa > > [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo > (12, > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Ju: > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > Sublord of Sa is Ju: > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Planet Me: > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > Sublord of Me is Su: > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2- > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > > > @gro ups.com, " vazeamit " <vazeamit@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > > > Pranam. > > > > > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharasht ra. > > > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > > significator is diff. houses. > > > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > > > MOON 2,7,8,12 > > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > MERCURY 3,6,10 > > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march to > > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat retrograde > > till > > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have > calculated > > > could be wrong. > > > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date of > my > > > return journey to india. > > > > > > Thanking you. > > > > > > sincerely, > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. > > > > > > > > > > raichur anant > > www.jaxtr.com\ anantachar > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > > > > > > > > > ___________________ _______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. 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Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Dear Friends, In a survey of 100 charts of foreign settlement, the Sub lord of 12th cusp of 30 charts (out of 100) is found deposited in a common sign, 28 charts (out of 100) in a moveable sign, and 42 charts (out of 100) in a fixed sign, ie. the Sub lord of 12th cusp in a moveable sign for foreign settlement is not found working. (Msg#3836) In the File section New Researches New Researches in KP FOREIGN SETTLEMENT.doc A SURVEY OF 100 CHARTS OF FOREIGN SETTLEMENT Regards, tw , " R Satish " <rsatish1942 wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > On the ongoing discussion on permanency of stay abroad, > > > Please refer to pg.303 of Sri KSK 6th reader HORARY ASTROLOGY. > > Quote.. > If Sub lord of 12th cusp is deposited in a common sign,he will go > and come back. If it is a moveable sign, he will once and for all > leave the present place and never return. If in a fixed sign it > indicates he will never move out. > Unquote.. > > > > I trust this clarifies. > > > Regards, > > Satish , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > 1. Thank you for sharing your practical finding. > > > > 2. Another point open to research is that one may not settle > abroad, > > if 12th cuspal sublord signifies 4th house (mother land). For > > instance, Male, 19-03-1962, 05:11:40 AM DST, Mordialloc, Australia, > > 28S00, 145E04, Asc Aq 19:34:11 (NKPA 23:14:21), a lot of foreign > > travel and staying abroad but not possible to settle abroad, as > 12th > > cuspal sublord Venus signifies 4th house along with 3,9,12 houses. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > > > > > Very helful posting. Thanks > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > My first thought was that the 4th house should be involved as it > > is return to the home. I had a quick look at the few charts of > > people who I know returned recently and found that the 3rd house is > > there most of the time. Based on that I also adhere to the views of > > Tw ji that 3, 9 & 11 should be considered for the return to home. > > Also 4th house should be taken as the place where somebody is > > staying presently and not the permanent home. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 7:08 AM, Chittaranajn Ghosh > > <chittaranajnghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > I also agree with Mr Amitji it is important to take 2,9 & 11 for > > considerations. > > > With regards, > > > Mr Ghosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar@> > > > > > > Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:21:49 AM > > > Re: return from foreign travel and KP > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Respected group members > > > As for as my understanding is concerned > > > 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th) because > > return > > > from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house is > also > > > logical because return journey means meeting with family > > members .I > > > support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis . > > > With Regards > > > AMIT > > > > > > > > > -- In @gro ups.com, MK Viswanath > > > > > > <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sirs > > > > > > > > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) > when > > > signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), the > > > native returns from foreign country to his native country during > > > d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Viswanath > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr Rao > > > > Even return to Home land would involve " long Travel " , so the > 9th > > > has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) > > > should be considered. > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze, > > > > For overseas travel the houses > > > III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland > (Home) , > > we > > > should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered > > opinion... > > > > L.Y.Rao > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit ji, > > > > > > > > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try > > a > > > > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > > > > > > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below > > for > > > > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16. > > > > > > > > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008) and > > > > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0) > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Ma > > > > Ra conj 12 > > > > > > > > Ke conj 6 > > > > Ra conj Mo > > > > Mo is aspected by Sa > > > > > > > > Me is aspected by Ma > > > > Ke is aspected by Mo > > > > Ra aspects 6 > > > > Ke aspects 12 > > > > > > > > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo > > (12, > > > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1 > > > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > > Sublord of Ve is Me: > > > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma [8, > 2- > > > > > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6 > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1 > > > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ju: > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > > > > > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp > by > > Sa > > > > [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo > > > (12, > > > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Ju: > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > Sublord of Sa is Ju: > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Me: > > > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > > Sublord of Me is Su: > > > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma [8, > 2- > > > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " vazeamit " <vazeamit@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > Pranam. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > > > > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharasht ra. > > > > > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > > > > > > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > > > > significator is diff. houses. > > > > > > > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > > > > > MOON 2,7,8,12 > > > > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > > > MERCURY 3,6,10 > > > > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > > > > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > > > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > > > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > > > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > > > > > > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > > > > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > > > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > > > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > > > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > > > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > > > > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > > > > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march > > to > > > > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat > > retrograde > > > > till > > > > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > > > > > > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > > > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have > > > calculated > > > > > could be wrong. > > > > > > > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date > > of > > > my > > > > > return journey to india. > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you. > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raichur anant > > > > www.jaxtr.com\ anantachar > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 but it should work as per rules........have u considered the star lord of the sublord???is it posited in a moveable sign???plz make it clear.....as far as i have seen the star lord is more important than the sub lord and the sublord of the sublord is the most important factor--- On Thu, 10/1/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:tw853 <tw853 Re: return from foreign travel and KP Date: Thursday, 10 January, 2008, 8:14 AM Dear Friends, In a survey of 100 charts of foreign settlement, the Sub lord of 12th cusp of 30 charts (out of 100) is found deposited in a common sign, 28 charts (out of 100) in a moveable sign, and 42 charts (out of 100) in a fixed sign, ie. the Sub lord of 12th cusp in a moveable sign for foreign settlement is not found working. (Msg#3836) In the File section New Researches New Researches in KP FOREIGN SETTLEMENT.doc A SURVEY OF 100 CHARTS OF FOREIGN SETTLEMENT Regards, tw @gro ups.com, "R Satish" <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > On the ongoing discussion on permanency of stay abroad, > > > Please refer to pg.303 of Sri KSK 6th reader HORARY ASTROLOGY. > > Quote.. > If Sub lord of 12th cusp is deposited in a common sign,he will go > and come back. If it is a moveable sign, he will once and for all > leave the present place and never return. If in a fixed sign it > indicates he will never move out. > Unquote.. > > > > I trust this clarifies. > > > Regards, > > Satish > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > 1. Thank you for sharing your practical finding. > > > > 2. Another point open to research is that one may not settle > abroad, > > if 12th cuspal sublord signifies 4th house (mother land). For > > instance, Male, 19-03-1962, 05:11:40 AM DST, Mordialloc, Australia, > > 28S00, 145E04, Asc Aq 19:34:11 (NKPA 23:14:21), a lot of foreign > > travel and staying abroad but not possible to settle abroad, as > 12th > > cuspal sublord Venus signifies 4th house along with 3,9,12 houses. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > > > > > Very helful posting. Thanks > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > My first thought was that the 4th house should be involved as it > > is return to the home. I had a quick look at the few charts of > > people who I know returned recently and found that the 3rd house is > > there most of the time. Based on that I also adhere to the views of > > Tw ji that 3, 9 & 11 should be considered for the return to home. > > Also 4th house should be taken as the place where somebody is > > staying presently and not the permanent home. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 7:08 AM, Chittaranajn Ghosh > > <chittaranajnghosh@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > I also agree with Mr Amitji it is important to take 2,9 & 11 for > > considerations. > > > With regards, > > > Mr Ghosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar@ > > > > @gro ups.com > > > Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:21:49 AM > > > Re: return from foreign travel and KP > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Respected group members > > > As for as my understanding is concerned > > > 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th) because > > return > > > from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house is > also > > > logical because return journey means meeting with family > > members .I > > > support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis . > > > With Regards > > > AMIT > > > > > > > > > -- In @gro ups.com, MK Viswanath > > > > > > <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sirs > > > > > > > > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) > when > > > signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), the > > > native returns from foreign country to his native country during > > > d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Viswanath > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr Rao > > > > Even return to Home land would involve "long Travel", so the > 9th > > > has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) > > > should be considered. > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze, > > > > For overseas travel the houses > > > III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland > (Home) , > > we > > > should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered > > opinion... > > > > L.Y.Rao > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit ji, > > > > > > > > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try > > a > > > > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > > > > > > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below > > for > > > > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16. > > > > > > > > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008) and > > > > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0) > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Ma > > > > Ra conj 12 > > > > > > > > Ke conj 6 > > > > Ra conj Mo > > > > Mo is aspected by Sa > > > > > > > > Me is aspected by Ma > > > > Ke is aspected by Mo > > > > Ra aspects 6 > > > > Ke aspects 12 > > > > > > > > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo > > (12, > > > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1 > > > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > > Sublord of Ve is Me: > > > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma [8, > 2- > > > > > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6 > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1 > > > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ju: > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > > > > > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp > by > > Sa > > > > [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo > > > (12, > > > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Ju: > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > Sublord of Sa is Ju: > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Me: > > > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > > Sublord of Me is Su: > > > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma [8, > 2- > > > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "vazeamit" <vazeamit@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > Pranam. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > > > > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharasht ra. > > > > > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > > > > > > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > > > > significator is diff. houses. > > > > > > > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > > > > > MOON 2,7,8,12 > > > > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > > > MERCURY 3,6,10 > > > > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > > > > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > > > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > > > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > > > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > > > > > > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > > > > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > > > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > > > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > > > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > > > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > > > > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > > > > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march > > to > > > > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat > > retrograde > > > > till > > > > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > > > > > > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > > > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have > > > calculated > > > > > could be wrong. > > > > > > > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date > > of > > > my > > > > > return journey to india. > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you. > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raichur anant > > > > www.jaxtr.com\ anantachar > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 dear TW,may I make a suggestion,though I am no expert.Maybe,step 3/4 will be more fruitful,Regardssujata--- On Thu, 10/1/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:tw853 <tw853 Re: return from foreign travel and KP Date: Thursday, 10 January, 2008, 8:14 AM Dear Friends, In a survey of 100 charts of foreign settlement, the Sub lord of 12th cusp of 30 charts (out of 100) is found deposited in a common sign, 28 charts (out of 100) in a moveable sign, and 42 charts (out of 100) in a fixed sign, ie. the Sub lord of 12th cusp in a moveable sign for foreign settlement is not found working. (Msg#3836) In the File section New Researches New Researches in KP FOREIGN SETTLEMENT.doc A SURVEY OF 100 CHARTS OF FOREIGN SETTLEMENT Regards, tw @gro ups.com, "R Satish" <rsatish1942@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > On the ongoing discussion on permanency of stay abroad, > > > Please refer to pg.303 of Sri KSK 6th reader HORARY ASTROLOGY. > > Quote.. > If Sub lord of 12th cusp is deposited in a common sign,he will go > and come back. If it is a moveable sign, he will once and for all > leave the present place and never return. If in a fixed sign it > indicates he will never move out. > Unquote.. > > > > I trust this clarifies. > > > Regards, > > Satish > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > 1. Thank you for sharing your practical finding. > > > > 2. Another point open to research is that one may not settle > abroad, > > if 12th cuspal sublord signifies 4th house (mother land). For > > instance, Male, 19-03-1962, 05:11:40 AM DST, Mordialloc, Australia, > > 28S00, 145E04, Asc Aq 19:34:11 (NKPA 23:14:21), a lot of foreign > > travel and staying abroad but not possible to settle abroad, as > 12th > > cuspal sublord Venus signifies 4th house along with 3,9,12 houses. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > > > > > Very helful posting. Thanks > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > My first thought was that the 4th house should be involved as it > > is return to the home. I had a quick look at the few charts of > > people who I know returned recently and found that the 3rd house is > > there most of the time. Based on that I also adhere to the views of > > Tw ji that 3, 9 & 11 should be considered for the return to home. > > Also 4th house should be taken as the place where somebody is > > staying presently and not the permanent home. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 7:08 AM, Chittaranajn Ghosh > > <chittaranajnghosh@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > I also agree with Mr Amitji it is important to take 2,9 & 11 for > > considerations. > > > With regards, > > > Mr Ghosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar@ > > > > @gro ups.com > > > Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:21:49 AM > > > Re: return from foreign travel and KP > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Respected group members > > > As for as my understanding is concerned > > > 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th) because > > return > > > from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house is > also > > > logical because return journey means meeting with family > > members .I > > > support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis . > > > With Regards > > > AMIT > > > > > > > > > -- In @gro ups.com, MK Viswanath > > > > > > <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sirs > > > > > > > > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) > when > > > signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), the > > > native returns from foreign country to his native country during > > > d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Viswanath > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr Rao > > > > Even return to Home land would involve "long Travel", so the > 9th > > > has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) > > > should be considered. > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze, > > > > For overseas travel the houses > > > III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland > (Home) , > > we > > > should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered > > opinion... > > > > L.Y.Rao > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit ji, > > > > > > > > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may try > > a > > > > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > > > > > > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided below > > for > > > > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16. > > > > > > > > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008) and > > > > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0) > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Ma > > > > Ra conj 12 > > > > > > > > Ke conj 6 > > > > Ra conj Mo > > > > Mo is aspected by Sa > > > > > > > > Me is aspected by Ma > > > > Ke is aspected by Mo > > > > Ra aspects 6 > > > > Ke aspects 12 > > > > > > > > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo > > (12, > > > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1 > > > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > > Sublord of Ve is Me: > > > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma [8, > 2- > > > > > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6 > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1 > > > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ju: > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > > > > > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, Asp > by > > Sa > > > > [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo > > > (12, > > > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Ju: > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > Sublord of Sa is Ju: > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > Planet Me: > > > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > > Sublord of Me is Su: > > > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma [8, > 2- > > > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "vazeamit" <vazeamit@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > Pranam. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > > > > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharasht ra. > > > > > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > > > > > > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > > > > significator is diff. houses. > > > > > > > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > > > > > MOON 2,7,8,12 > > > > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > > > MERCURY 3,6,10 > > > > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > > > > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > > > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > > > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > > > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > > > > > > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > > > > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > > > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > > > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > > > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > > > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > > > > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using KP. > > > > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd march > > to > > > > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat > > retrograde > > > > till > > > > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > > > > > > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was a > > > > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have > > > calculated > > > > > could be wrong. > > > > > > > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the date > > of > > > my > > > > > return journey to india. > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you. > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raichur anant > > > > www.jaxtr.com\ anantachar > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Dear TW, Many Thanks for your survey results. It only proves eery Rule is not sacrosanct,including those of Sri KSK.We shud change with the times. There is more than what meets the Eye. Regards, Satish , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > In a survey of 100 charts of foreign settlement, the Sub lord of > 12th cusp of 30 charts (out of 100) is found deposited in a common > sign, 28 charts (out of 100) in a moveable sign, and 42 charts (out > of 100) in a fixed sign, ie. the Sub lord of 12th cusp in a moveable > sign for foreign settlement is not found working. (Msg#3836) > > In the File section > > New Researches > New Researches in KP > > FOREIGN SETTLEMENT.doc > A SURVEY OF 100 CHARTS OF FOREIGN SETTLEMENT > > > Regards, > > tw > > > > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > On the ongoing discussion on permanency of stay > abroad, > > > > > > Please refer to pg.303 of Sri KSK 6th reader HORARY ASTROLOGY. > > > > Quote.. > > If Sub lord of 12th cusp is deposited in a common sign,he will > go > > and come back. If it is a moveable sign, he will once and for all > > leave the present place and never return. If in a fixed sign it > > indicates he will never move out. > > Unquote.. > > > > > > > > I trust this clarifies. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Punit Pandey ji, > > > > > > 1. Thank you for sharing your practical finding. > > > > > > 2. Another point open to research is that one may not settle > > abroad, > > > if 12th cuspal sublord signifies 4th house (mother land). For > > > instance, Male, 19-03-1962, 05:11:40 AM DST, Mordialloc, > Australia, > > > 28S00, 145E04, Asc Aq 19:34:11 (NKPA 23:14:21), a lot of foreign > > > travel and staying abroad but not possible to settle abroad, as > > 12th > > > cuspal sublord Venus signifies 4th house along with 3,9,12 > houses. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Very helful posting. Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > My first thought was that the 4th house should be involved as > it > > > is return to the home. I had a quick look at the few charts of > > > people who I know returned recently and found that the 3rd house > is > > > there most of the time. Based on that I also adhere to the views > of > > > Tw ji that 3, 9 & 11 should be considered for the return to > home. > > > Also 4th house should be taken as the place where somebody is > > > staying presently and not the permanent home. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 7:08 AM, Chittaranajn Ghosh > > > <chittaranajnghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > I also agree with Mr Amitji it is important to take 2,9 & 11 > for > > > considerations. > > > > With regards, > > > > Mr Ghosh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar@> > > > > > > > > Saturday, January 5, 2008 8:21:49 AM > > > > Re: return from foreign travel and KP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Respected group members > > > > As for as my understanding is concerned > > > > 9TH house should again be considered(instead of 8th) because > > > return > > > > from abroad will include long journey.Taking of 2nd house is > > also > > > > logical because return journey means meeting with family > > > members .I > > > > support to take houses 2,9 and 11 for analysis . > > > > With Regards > > > > AMIT > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In @gro ups.com, MK Viswanath > > > > > > > > <astrologervishy_ nair@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sirs > > > > > > > > > > According to the info we have, 12th CSL (foreign residence) > > when > > > > signifies 8 (negation to 9 = foreign travel) and 4 (home), > the > > > > native returns from foreign country to his native country > during > > > > d/b/a/ of significators of these houses and when transit agree > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Viswanath > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > Dear Mr Rao > > > > > Even return to Home land would involve " long Travel " , so the > > 9th > > > > has to be considered. For returning home, I believe 4th (Home) > > > > should be considered. > > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@ ..> wrote: > > > > > Dear tw853,Amit Vaze, > > > > > For overseas travel the houses > > > > III,IX & XII are considered,hence for return to Motherland > > (Home) , > > > we > > > > should consider the houses XI,VIII & II...in my considered > > > opinion... > > > > > L.Y.Rao > > > > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Amit ji, > > > > > > > > > > 1. For returning to home country from foreign land, you may > try > > > a > > > > > house grouping from Msg#2630, preferably 3,9,11. > > > > > > > > > > 2. For your analysis, 4 Step Significators are provided > below > > > for > > > > > Asc Lib 18:43:48 for NKPA 23:27:16. > > > > > > > > > > 3. It's possible during Ju-Ke DB (06-11-2007 to 12-10-2008) > and > > > > > Anthara is to be worked out with combination of transit. > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > 4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0) > > > > > > > > > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 > > > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Ve, Sa, Ra > > > > > Planets in own stars (*): Ma > > > > > Ra conj 12 > > > > > > > > > > Ke conj 6 > > > > > Ra conj Mo > > > > > Mo is aspected by Sa > > > > > > > > > > Me is aspected by Ma > > > > > Ke is aspected by Mo > > > > > Ra aspects 6 > > > > > Ke aspects 12 > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ke: Cnj 6 > > > > > Starlord of Ke is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > > Sublord of Ke is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj > Mo > > > (12, > > > > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ve+: 9; 1 > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > > > Sublord of Ve is Me: > > > > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > > > > > > > > Planet Su: > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma > [8, > > 2- > > > > > > > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12; Cnj 6 > > > > > Sublord of Su is Ve+: 9; 1 > > > > > Starlord of Ve is Ju: 8; 3 > > > > > > > > > > Planet Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > Sublord of Mo is Ju: > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > Starlord of Ma is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > Sublord of Ma is Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); Cnj Mo(12, > Asp > > by > > > Sa > > > > > [10,4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > Sublord of Ra is Ra+: 12; Sgl Me(11, Asp by Ma[8, 2-7]); > Cnj Mo > > > > (12, > > > > > Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 6; Cnj 12 > > > > > Starlord of Ra is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > > > Planet Ju: > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > Sublord of Ju is Mo+: 12; Asp by Sa(10, 4-5) > > > > > Starlord of Mo is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > > > Planet Sa+: 10; 4-5; Asp Mo(12) > > > > > Starlord of Sa is Me: 11; Asp by Ma(8, 2-7) > > > > > Sublord of Sa is Ju: > > > > > Starlord of Ju is Ma*: 8; 2-7; Asp Me(11) > > > > > > > > > > Planet Me: > > > > > Starlord of Me is Su: 10 > > > > > Sublord of Me is Su: > > > > > Starlord of Su is Ke: 6; Sgl Ju(8, 3); Stl Me(11, Asp by Ma > [8, > > 2- > > > > > 7]); Asp by Mo(12, Asp by Sa[10, 4-5]); Asp 12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, " vazeamit " <vazeamit@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello KP Gurus, > > > > > > > > > > > > Pranam. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my birth date is 19/08/1977 > > > > > > birth place is ratnagiri,maharasht ra. > > > > > > birth time is 11:45 A.M. > > > > > > > > > > > > using 4 step theory , i found following as the principal > > > > > > significator is diff. houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > SUN 1,3,6,7,9 > > > > > > MOON 2,7,8,12 > > > > > > MARS 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > > > > MERCURY 3,6,10 > > > > > > JUPITER 2,7,8,12 > > > > > > VENUS 1,3,7,9,10 > > > > > > SATURN 2,4,5,7,8,10, 11 > > > > > > RAHU 2,7,8,12 > > > > > > KETU 2,7,8,11,12 > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I travelled on following occasions. > > > > > > 1. 09/08/2000 - 01/06/2001 - for education > > > > > > 2. 28/08/2001 - 07/10/2003 - for education > > > > > > 3. 09/10/2004 - 29/11/2004 - business visa > > > > > > 4. 01/08/2007 - 28/10/2007 - business visa > > > > > > 5. 11/12/2007 - till date - business visa > > > > > > > > > > > > i was trying to find out the return date this time using > KP. > > > > > > my analysis showed i should return any time between 3rd > march > > > to > > > > > > 25th march. [march retrograde till 30th jan and sat > > > retrograde > > > > > till > > > > > > 3rd of may which are the significators of house no.4] > > > > > > > > > > > > But when i applied same rules in previous cases. there was > a > > > > > > mismatch and therefore i thought the return date i have > > > > calculated > > > > > > could be wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > I request all the KP experts to guide me in finding the > date > > > of > > > > my > > > > > > return journey to india. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you. > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raichur anant > > > > > www.jaxtr.com\ anantachar > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > Never miss a thing. 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