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Dear Sir,i feel instead of discrding the exaltation and deblitation which does not work i practice as told in vedic astrology for many number people it is better to to take the sign say thesign value air sign water fixed etc instead the value of planets value 3 planets exaltation abverage life and 2 planets deblitation very rich life can be seen in practice we can take the value ofthe house the star or sub lords located moving dual fixed fire earth water etc planets is stationery for a longer period eg. saturn in leo for more than 2.5 yrs and several million born during that period can we fix all born during this period to the same value in life it is very difficult to erase from mind the thinking of yogas and exaltation and deblitation each family members can be taken andanalyse so many yogas in mosty horoascopes the fast moving moon coming in an angleto jupiter very frequently forming gajakesari yoga etc ... there are

very very few percentage of people live in high position and more than 80 percent live in poor conditions if yogas to fruitify to all all should be very well in life even for a beggar many yogas may be there are our servant maids and also a beggar may hav e beautiful fate line extending from below the palm upto sun mount he is begging there is no convincing answer for these contradictions we are cell phone and net age let us not think of bullock cart what gives results and works well let us try to ahieve things from that however the foundation and basics like alphabits is vedic traditional astrology thank y sir with my regards for yr wounderful apt crisp knowledgeable thought proviking creative messages however very few writings from y expecting more and more from y sir THANK Y THANK Y SAIRAMAN 8 08 AM 28 12 07Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mr.Naidu, Traditional astrology, as is presently advocated and followed by a number of "schools of astrology",has been thoroughly proven to be vague and inaccurate,prediction-wise,as compared to the pinpoint and precise predictions based on K.P., which is based on traditional astrology,and is the "new improved and more accurate system of astrology..." My comment referred-to, by you,was given in this context...I have myself studied traditional astrology, the B.V.Raman's school and practised it for long years...and was so disillusoned with astrology,that I gave up astrology...untill I met Shri K.S. Krishnamurthiji himself at Bhopal,where I was posted then,and attended his 3-day seminar...and immediately I decided to begin learning K.P. System...all anew... Traditional system still continues promote"yogas",exaltation, debilitation,and so many now-proven-to-be-without-any-rationales etc., making traditional astrology a "bhel" of unproven/untested yogas,each contradicting the other...and so on and on and on...No body

has tried to even discard the old worn-out ideas not applicable presently...leading to confusion worse confounded......hence I am of the firm belief that traditional astrology confuses more than it teaches...hence I sincerely recommend people desirous of learning K.P., to delearn traditional astrology before learning K.P.... I hope you now understand my comments in the right context... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Mr.LY Rao garu,Your entire message is good except the last sentence "study K.P, forget traditional astrology". There are umpteen number of systems, methods and believes in Astrology. I feel it is not correct to say that what I believe/practice is correct and all others are incorrect. similarly in medical science. similarly in religion and so on so forth. Knowledge is more than a ocean. what man knows is a speck in the ocean. With that speck of knowledge one should not feel he is correct. There is still a lot of unknown science either in astrology or in any other field man has yet to know/discover. Hope the above may kindly be taken in its true spirit not in person.Good Luck.KP NaiduK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi:

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Dear Sairam, Could you give some example/s,to illustrate what you advocate...it will be preferable to pontificating...on K.P., and/or astrology... Not all are born to be fortunate in life...and K.P., has specific methods to ascertain the extent of one's destiny at birth,due to his past accumulative Karma...or the degree of one's prosperity or wealth in this life... Also,K.P., has described a method to guage fairly accurately how was one's past life,and also one's future life ...as described in K.P. & Astrosecrets by Mr.K.Subramaniam & the late Shri

M.P. Shanmugham...I hope you will take the trouble to study K.P. deeply and thoroughly,before pontificating on it... Thanking you in anticipation, L.Y.Rao.sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote: Dear Sir,i feel instead of discrding the exaltation and deblitation which does not work i practice

as told in vedic astrology for many number people it is better to to take the sign say thesign value air sign water fixed etc instead the value of planets value 3 planets exaltation abverage life and 2 planets deblitation very rich life can be seen in practice we can take the value ofthe house the star or sub lords located moving dual fixed fire earth water etc planets is stationery for a longer period eg. saturn in leo for more than 2.5 yrs and several million born during that period can we fix all born during this period to the same value in life it is very difficult to erase from mind the thinking of yogas and exaltation and deblitation each family members can be taken andanalyse so many yogas in mosty horoascopes the fast moving moon coming in an angleto jupiter very frequently forming gajakesari yoga etc ... there are very very few percentage of people live in high position and more than 80 percent live in poor conditions if

yogas to fruitify to all all should be very well in life even for a beggar many yogas may be there are our servant maids and also a beggar may hav e beautiful fate line extending from below the palm upto sun mount he is begging there is no convincing answer for these contradictions we are cell phone and net age let us not think of bullock cart what gives results and works well let us try to ahieve things from that however the foundation and basics like alphabits is vedic traditional astrology thank y sir with my regards for yr wounderful apt crisp knowledgeable thought proviking creative messages however very few writings from y expecting more and more from y sir THANK Y THANK Y SAIRAMAN 8 08 AM 28 12 07Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Mr.Naidu, Traditional astrology, as is presently advocated and followed by a number of "schools of astrology",has been thoroughly proven to be vague and inaccurate,prediction-wise,as compared to the pinpoint and precise predictions based on K.P., which is based on traditional astrology,and is the "new improved and more accurate system of astrology..." My comment referred-to, by you,was given in this context...I have myself studied traditional astrology, the B.V.Raman's school and practised it for long years...and was so disillusoned with astrology,that I gave up astrology...untill I met Shri K.S. Krishnamurthiji himself at Bhopal,where I was posted then,and attended his

3-day seminar...and immediately I decided to begin learning K.P. System...all anew... Traditional system still continues promote"yogas",exaltation, debilitation,and so many now-proven-to-be-without-any-rationales etc., making traditional astrology a "bhel" of unproven/untested yogas,each contradicting the other...and so on and on and on...No body has tried to even discard the old worn-out ideas not applicable presently...leading to confusion worse confounded......hence I am of the firm belief that traditional astrology confuses more than it teaches...hence I sincerely recommend people desirous of learning K.P., to delearn traditional astrology before learning K.P.... I hope you now understand my comments in the right context... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Mr.LY Rao garu,Your entire message is good except the last sentence "study K.P, forget traditional astrology". There are umpteen number of systems, methods and believes in Astrology. I feel it is not correct to say that what I believe/practice is

correct and all others are incorrect. similarly in medical science. similarly in religion and so on so forth. Knowledge is more than a ocean. what man knows is a speck in the ocean. With that speck of knowledge one should not feel he is correct. There is still a lot of unknown science either in astrology or in any other field man has yet to know/discover. Hope the above may kindly be taken in its true spirit not in person.Good Luck.KP NaiduK. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Chat on a cool, new interface. No download

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Dear Sairamanji,

 

// This means when a horoscope is powerful as per KP & also as per

Prasari ie exaltation etc of planets, then only it confers great

results.// (Message 15801 by Shri Sehgal ji)

 

This view has been mentioned by me in message No.Message

15723 as under-

 

// Do Yogas fructify ? Yes or No.

They do.

But one should know how to see them.

If a Yoga persists both in the Natal Chart,

as well as the Cuspal Chart, then only it

would fructify, otherwise not. //

 

Shri Chittaranjan Ghoshji and Shri Ashok Sehgalji have

confirmed this by personal experience, and so do I.

 

The Yogas as mentuoned by the Rishis are not baseless,

and neither are their shlokas, but they would

never allow a common man to understand these shlokas

who would have access to these, as foreseen by these

Great Rishis of Yore. therefore they never mentioned

in plain words how these Yogas would manifest in

whose Horoscopes and whose not.

 

These Yogas are certainly there but would fructify only,

when they are present , not only

in the Natal Chart, but also in the KP Placidus Chart.

As soon as the planets change position in the Bhava

Chalit, or in the Placidus Cuspal Chart,

they would cease to manifest.

 

Let us not be rigid but progressive in our study and

research , as our Master Shri KrishnaMurthyji would

have wanted us to be, had he been here in person.

You cannot expect a Man of 60 Years normal age ,to

study and research each and every aspect of this

great Ocean of Indian astrology, with its boundless

dimensions and give his verdict on same.

 

It is left to us students of Our Great master to

continue the research with an unbiased view and

broadmindedness as mentioned by our Beloved

Moderator/Owner of this Forum Shri Pandeyji too.

 

Well I have now said what i wished to.

Its left to the rest of the members to search for these

Yogas in their Clients Horoscopes and see whether they

also remain in the KP Chart,

and actually manifest in the natives Life.

But be careful, they would only manifest when the

Planets constituting these yogas appear as

Dasha Lords, otherwise not.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

, sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> i feel instead of discrding the exaltation and deblitation which

does not work i practice as told in vedic astrology for many number

people it is better to to take the sign say thesign value air sign

water fixed etc instead the value of planets value 3 planets

exaltation abverage life and 2 planets deblitation very rich life

can be seen in practice

>

> we can take the value ofthe house the star or sub lords located

moving dual fixed fire earth water etc

>

> planets is stationery for a longer period eg. saturn in leo for

more than 2.5 yrs and several million born during that period can we

fix all born during this period to the same value in life

>

> it is very difficult to erase from mind the thinking of yogas and

exaltation and deblitation

>

> each family members can be taken andanalyse so many yogas in mosty

horoascopes the fast moving moon coming in an angleto jupiter very

frequently forming gajakesari yoga etc ... there are very very few

percentage of people live in high position and more than 80 percent

live in poor conditions if yogas to fruitify to all all should be

very well in life even for a beggar many yogas may be there are our

servant maids and also a beggar may hav e beautiful fate line

extending from below the palm upto sun mount he is begging there is

no convincing answer for these contradictions

>

> we are cell phone and net age let us not think of bullock cart

what gives results and works well let us try to ahieve things from

that however the foundation and basics like alphabits is vedic

traditional astrology

>

> thank y sir with my regards for yr wounderful apt crisp

knowledgeable thought proviking creative messages however very few

writings from y expecting more and more from y sir

>

>

> THANK Y THANK Y

>

>

> SAIRAMAN 8 08 AM 28 12 07

>

> Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1

wrote:

> Dear Mr.Naidu,

> Traditional astrology, as is presently

advocated and followed by a number of " schools of astrology " ,has

been thoroughly proven to be vague and inaccurate,prediction-wise,as

compared to the pinpoint and precise predictions based on K.P.,

which is based on traditional astrology,and is the " new improved and

more accurate system of astrology... "

> My comment referred-to, by you,was given in

this context...I have myself studied traditional astrology, the

B.V.Raman's school and practised it for long years...and was so

disillusoned with astrology,that I gave up astrology...untill I met

Shri K.S. Krishnamurthiji himself at Bhopal,where I was posted

then,and attended his 3-day seminar...and immediately I decided to

begin learning K.P. System...all anew...

> Traditional system still continues

promote " yogas " ,exaltation,

> debilitation,and so many now-proven-to-be-without-any-rationales

etc., making traditional astrology a " bhel " of unproven/untested

yogas,each contradicting the other...and so on and on and on...No

body has tried to even discard the old worn-out ideas not applicable

presently...leading to confusion worse confounded......hence I am of

the firm belief that traditional astrology confuses more than it

teaches...hence I sincerely recommend people desirous of learning

K.P., to delearn traditional astrology before learning K.P....

> I hope you now understand my comments in

the right context...

> With best wishes,

> L.Y.Rao.

>

> " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan wrote:

> Dear Mr.LY Rao garu,

>

> Your entire message is good except the last sentence " study K.P,

forget traditional astrology " . There are umpteen number of systems,

methods and believes in Astrology. I feel it is not correct to say

that what I believe/practice is correct and all others are

incorrect. similarly in medical science. similarly in religion and

so on so forth. Knowledge is more than a ocean. what man knows is a

speck in the ocean. With that speck of knowledge one should not feel

he is correct. There is still a lot of unknown science either in

astrology or in any other field man has yet to know/discover.

> Hope the above may kindly be taken in its true spirit not in

person.

>

> Good Luck.

>

> KP Naidu

>

>

> K. P. Naidu,

> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,

> Nowroji Road,

> Maharanipeta,

> VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.

> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.

>

> Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without

download.

 

> Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required.

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Mr.Sairaman, We are ot competent to cretisize the yogas, exaltation or debilitations etc etc of traditional astrology, asI mentioned earlier in my msg., that we know is speck in the ocean of knowledge. Unknown science of astrology is a lot. Great people like Guruji Krishnamurthy by Reasearch and with Daivangraha, developed stellar astrology a successful predictive system. Further developments like cuspal intrlinks, 4 step theory etc., are made by some KP followers. Thus we should not with the existing knowledge. Research should be a continuous feature so as to improve our knowledge. Shortcomings or limitations as you mentioned, can be solved only by continuous research. With our limited knowledge we should not cretisize because the traditional astrology was given to us by great rishis like Parashara, Jaimini, Varahamihira,etc. Open mind and rationale approach are essential. Happy New year. KP naidu K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.

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I also fully agree with such taughts as we needs to do a lot in our predictive astrlogy as KP systems has done.

Regards,

Mr Ghosh.

K. P. Naidu <konathalan Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:35:40 PMRe: Do Yogas fructify 2812 2007

 

 

Dear Mr.Sairaman,

 

We are ot competent to cretisize the yogas, exaltation or debilitations etc etc of traditional astrology, asI mentioned earlier in my msg., that we know is speck in the ocean of knowledge. Unknown science of astrology is a lot. Great people like Guruji Krishnamurthy by Reasearch and with Daivangraha, developed stellar astrology a successful predictive system. Further developments like cuspal intrlinks, 4 step theory etc., are made by some KP followers. Thus we should not with the existing knowledge. Research should be a continuous feature so as to improve our knowledge. Shortcomings or limitations as you mentioned, can be solved only by continuous research. With our limited knowledge we should not cretisize because the traditional astrology was given to us by great rishis like Parashara, Jaimini, Varahamihira, etc. Open mind and rationale approach are essential.

 

Happy New year.

 

KP naidu K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.

 

 

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Sir, This is a very valid analysis. I wish to add -- KP system is based on Hindu traditional system blended with principles of western astrology . Yogas in traditinal system - are the fomulae of aspects, exaltations, etc., of planets , bhavas, rasis etc., Rasi tatwa, graha tatwa and bhava tatwa are the basis for any system - The interpretation, may differ in systems - perhaps to meet the soio-econmic chages of the society. Hence the basic principles cannot be ignored. sambasiva rao "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan wrote: Dear Mr.Sairaman, We are ot competent to cretisize the yogas, exaltation or debilitations etc etc of traditional astrology, asI mentioned earlier in my msg., that we know is speck in the ocean of knowledge. Unknown science of astrology is a lot. Great people like Guruji Krishnamurthy by Reasearch and with Daivangraha, developed stellar astrology a successful predictive system. Further developments like cuspal intrlinks, 4 step theory etc., are made by some KP followers. Thus we should not with the existing knowledge. Research should be a continuous feature so as to improve our knowledge. Shortcomings or limitations as you mentioned, can be solved only by continuous research. With our limited knowledge we should not cretisize because the traditional astrology was given to us by great rishis like Parashara, Jaimini,

Varahamihira,etc. Open mind and rationale approach are essential. Happy New year. KP naidu K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it.

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sir, Let me add- Fructification of yogas depend on many factors like- 1.formation of bad yogas which nullify the good yogas in birth chart or in the gochara. 2. Timing of planets forming the yoga 3. Shadbala strength of the planets giving yoga. 4. Over all strength of the birth chart etc., Like this timing of fructification / timing of fructification, extentent of fructification need a deep analysis. To make it easy we may adopt KP system where in the sub-lord, sub-sub lord, star lords theories show a way for predictive results and their timings- Gochara also to be included in timing of events in KP system also. In short , study of chart with the help of YOGAS need special attention and is a separate chapter - This cannot be ignored in traditional system for effective predictions. Comparision of different systems need certain rules - every

settled system has its own merits and demerits - as per the nature of birth chart and place of birth we may take the help of a system. For example for births in higher latitudes - kp system may not work because the bhava division may not be correct. like this much can be said. Sambasiva rao "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan wrote: Dear Mr.Sairaman, We are ot competent to cretisize the yogas, exaltation or debilitations etc etc of traditional astrology, asI mentioned

earlier in my msg., that we know is speck in the ocean of knowledge. Unknown science of astrology is a lot. Great people like Guruji Krishnamurthy by Reasearch and with Daivangraha, developed stellar astrology a successful predictive system. Further developments like cuspal intrlinks, 4 step theory etc., are made by some KP followers. Thus we should not with the existing knowledge. Research should be a continuous feature so as to improve our knowledge. Shortcomings or limitations as you mentioned, can be solved only by continuous research. With our limited knowledge we should not cretisize because the traditional astrology was given to us by great rishis like Parashara, Jaimini, Varahamihira,etc. Open mind and rationale approach are essential. Happy New year. KP naidu K. P. Naidu,Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,Nowroji Road,Maharanipeta,VISAKHAPATNAM

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Sir, May I add- Comparision of systems have a basis - but this should not result in mixing of system in predictions. This is only a caution - not a criticismSambasiva raoBhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Sairamanji,// This means when a horoscope is powerful as per KP & also as per Prasari ie exaltation etc of planets, then only it confers great results.// (Message 15801 by Shri Sehgal ji)This view has been mentioned by me in message No.Message 15723 as under-//

Do Yogas fructify ? Yes or No.They do.But one should know how to see them.If a Yoga persists both in the Natal Chart,as well as the Cuspal Chart, then only itwould fructify, otherwise not. //Shri Chittaranjan Ghoshji and Shri Ashok Sehgalji have confirmed this by personal experience, and so do I.The Yogas as mentuoned by the Rishis are not baseless,and neither are their shlokas, but they wouldnever allow a common man to understand these shlokaswho would have access to these, as foreseen by these Great Rishis of Yore. therefore they never mentioned in plain words how these Yogas would manifest inwhose Horoscopes and whose not.These Yogas are certainly there but would fructify only,when they are present , not onlyin the Natal Chart, but also in the KP Placidus Chart.As soon as the planets change position in the Bhava Chalit, or in the Placidus Cuspal Chart,they would cease to

manifest.Let us not be rigid but progressive in our study and research , as our Master Shri KrishnaMurthyji would have wanted us to be, had he been here in person.You cannot expect a Man of 60 Years normal age ,tostudy and research each and every aspect of this great Ocean of Indian astrology, with its boundlessdimensions and give his verdict on same.It is left to us students of Our Great master to continue the research with an unbiased view and broadmindedness as mentioned by our Beloved Moderator/Owner of this Forum Shri Pandeyji too.Well I have now said what i wished to.Its left to the rest of the members to search for theseYogas in their Clients Horoscopes and see whether theyalso remain in the KP Chart,and actually manifest in the natives Life.But be careful, they would only manifest when thePlanets constituting these yogas appear as Dasha Lords, otherwise not.best

wishes,Bhaskar. , sairam nat <sairaman53 wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > i feel instead of discrding the exaltation and deblitation which does not work i practice as told in vedic astrology for many number people it is better to to take the sign say thesign value air sign water fixed etc instead the value of planets value 3 planets exaltation abverage life and 2 planets deblitation very rich life can be seen in practice > > we can take the value ofthe house the star or sub lords located moving dual fixed fire earth water etc > > planets is stationery for a longer period eg. saturn in leo for more than 2.5 yrs and several million born during that period can we fix all born during this period to the same value in life > > it is very difficult to erase from mind the

thinking of yogas and exaltation and deblitation > > each family members can be taken andanalyse so many yogas in mosty horoascopes the fast moving moon coming in an angleto jupiter very frequently forming gajakesari yoga etc ... there are very very few percentage of people live in high position and more than 80 percent live in poor conditions if yogas to fruitify to all all should be very well in life even for a beggar many yogas may be there are our servant maids and also a beggar may hav e beautiful fate line extending from below the palm upto sun mount he is begging there is no convincing answer for these contradictions > > we are cell phone and net age let us not think of bullock cart what gives results and works well let us try to ahieve things from that however the foundation and basics like alphabits is vedic traditional astrology > > thank y sir with my regards for yr

wounderful apt crisp knowledgeable thought proviking creative messages however very few writings from y expecting more and more from y sir > > > THANK Y THANK Y > > > SAIRAMAN 8 08 AM 28 12 07> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > Dear Mr.Naidu,> Traditional astrology, as is presently advocated and followed by a number of "schools of astrology",has been thoroughly proven to be vague and inaccurate,prediction-wise,as compared to the pinpoint and precise predictions based on K.P., which is based on traditional astrology,and is the "new improved and more accurate system of astrology..."> My comment referred-to, by you,was given in this context...I have myself studied traditional astrology, the B.V.Raman's school and practised it for long years...and was so disillusoned with astrology,that I gave up astrology...untill I met

Shri K.S. Krishnamurthiji himself at Bhopal,where I was posted then,and attended his 3-day seminar...and immediately I decided to begin learning K.P. System...all anew...> Traditional system still continues promote"yogas",exaltation,> debilitation,and so many now-proven-to-be-without-any-rationales etc., making traditional astrology a "bhel" of unproven/untested yogas,each contradicting the other...and so on and on and on...No body has tried to even discard the old worn-out ideas not applicable presently...leading to confusion worse confounded......hence I am of the firm belief that traditional astrology confuses more than it teaches...hence I sincerely recommend people desirous of learning K.P., to delearn traditional astrology before learning K.P....> I hope you now understand my comments in the right context...> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> >

"K. P. Naidu" <konathalan wrote:> Dear Mr.LY Rao garu,> > Your entire message is good except the last sentence "study K.P, forget traditional astrology". There are umpteen number of systems, methods and believes in Astrology. I feel it is not correct to say that what I believe/practice is correct and all others are incorrect. similarly in medical science. similarly in religion and so on so forth. Knowledge is more than a ocean. what man knows is a speck in the ocean. With that speck of knowledge one should not feel he is correct. There is still a lot of unknown science either in astrology or in any other field man has yet to know/discover. > Hope the above may kindly be taken in its true spirit not in person.> > Good Luck.> > KP Naidu> > > K. P. Naidu,> Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> Nowroji Road,> Maharanipeta,>

VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. > > > > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.>

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Dear Shri Sambasivaji,

 

I understand what you are saying and

fully agree to your views. But here the mix is

already there,in form of Vimsottari Dasha, names

of Nakshatras, Significations of what each house

stands for (In KP - Cusps), Nakshatra Lords, Badhaka,

Retrogression ( In KP used in Horary), Western

House division (In KP - Placidus) etcetra.

We are not here to mix further, but to polish the

predictions derived in KP.

( The 4 step theory is also a attempt to polish the

results of KP, by looking at the

weight of each Planet by searching whether its

owned Cusps are Vacant or not, by searching whether

there are any planets in particular planets Nakshatras

etcetra)or in Cuspal interlinks which is moving to

further minuter sub divisions as in SSL or SSSL )

 

So here also we are attempting to do similiar polishing

but within demarcated Lines, and not moving away from

the approaches of KP, or the approach

through which KP emerged (Traditional).The basic

way of predictive KP Modules should not be touched,

is what my aim is, and the rest of attempts may be

observed as ancillary or capillaries to the

Main Predictive Module of KP.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, rao chitturu <csr162002

wrote:

>

> Sir,

> May I add-

> Comparision of systems have a basis - but this should not result

in mixing of system in predictions. This is only a caution - not a

criticism

> Sambasiva rao

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> Dear Sairamanji,

>

> // This means when a horoscope is powerful as per KP & also as per

> Prasari ie exaltation etc of planets, then only it confers great

> results.// (Message 15801 by Shri Sehgal ji)

>

> This view has been mentioned by me in message No.Message

> 15723 as under-

>

> // Do Yogas fructify ? Yes or No.

> They do.

> But one should know how to see them.

> If a Yoga persists both in the Natal Chart,

> as well as the Cuspal Chart, then only it

> would fructify, otherwise not. //

>

> Shri Chittaranjan Ghoshji and Shri Ashok Sehgalji have

> confirmed this by personal experience, and so do I.

>

> The Yogas as mentuoned by the Rishis are not baseless,

> and neither are their shlokas, but they would

> never allow a common man to understand these shlokas

> who would have access to these, as foreseen by these

> Great Rishis of Yore. therefore they never mentioned

> in plain words how these Yogas would manifest in

> whose Horoscopes and whose not.

>

> These Yogas are certainly there but would fructify only,

> when they are present , not only

> in the Natal Chart, but also in the KP Placidus Chart.

> As soon as the planets change position in the Bhava

> Chalit, or in the Placidus Cuspal Chart,

> they would cease to manifest.

>

> Let us not be rigid but progressive in our study and

> research , as our Master Shri KrishnaMurthyji would

> have wanted us to be, had he been here in person.

> You cannot expect a Man of 60 Years normal age ,to

> study and research each and every aspect of this

> great Ocean of Indian astrology, with its boundless

> dimensions and give his verdict on same.

>

> It is left to us students of Our Great master to

> continue the research with an unbiased view and

> broadmindedness as mentioned by our Beloved

> Moderator/Owner of this Forum Shri Pandeyji too.

>

> Well I have now said what i wished to.

> Its left to the rest of the members to search for these

> Yogas in their Clients Horoscopes and see whether they

> also remain in the KP Chart,

> and actually manifest in the natives Life.

> But be careful, they would only manifest when the

> Planets constituting these yogas appear as

> Dasha Lords, otherwise not.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , sairam nat <sairaman53@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> >

> > i feel instead of discrding the exaltation and deblitation which

> does not work i practice as told in vedic astrology for many

number

> people it is better to to take the sign say thesign value air sign

> water fixed etc instead the value of planets value 3 planets

> exaltation abverage life and 2 planets deblitation very rich life

> can be seen in practice

> >

> > we can take the value ofthe house the star or sub lords located

> moving dual fixed fire earth water etc

> >

> > planets is stationery for a longer period eg. saturn in leo for

> more than 2.5 yrs and several million born during that period can

we

> fix all born during this period to the same value in life

> >

> > it is very difficult to erase from mind the thinking of yogas

and

> exaltation and deblitation

> >

> > each family members can be taken andanalyse so many yogas in

mosty

> horoascopes the fast moving moon coming in an angleto jupiter very

> frequently forming gajakesari yoga etc ... there are very very few

> percentage of people live in high position and more than 80

percent

> live in poor conditions if yogas to fruitify to all all should be

> very well in life even for a beggar many yogas may be there are

our

> servant maids and also a beggar may hav e beautiful fate line

> extending from below the palm upto sun mount he is begging there

is

> no convincing answer for these contradictions

> >

> > we are cell phone and net age let us not think of bullock cart

> what gives results and works well let us try to ahieve things from

> that however the foundation and basics like alphabits is vedic

> traditional astrology

> >

> > thank y sir with my regards for yr wounderful apt crisp

> knowledgeable thought proviking creative messages however very few

> writings from y expecting more and more from y sir

> >

> >

> > THANK Y THANK Y

> >

> >

> > SAIRAMAN 8 08 AM 28 12 07

> >

> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@>

> wrote:

> > Dear Mr.Naidu,

> > Traditional astrology, as is presently

> advocated and followed by a number of " schools of astrology " ,has

> been thoroughly proven to be vague and inaccurate,prediction-

wise,as

> compared to the pinpoint and precise predictions based on K.P.,

> which is based on traditional astrology,and is the " new improved

and

> more accurate system of astrology... "

> > My comment referred-to, by you,was given in

> this context...I have myself studied traditional astrology, the

> B.V.Raman's school and practised it for long years...and was so

> disillusoned with astrology,that I gave up astrology...untill I

met

> Shri K.S. Krishnamurthiji himself at Bhopal,where I was posted

> then,and attended his 3-day seminar...and immediately I decided to

> begin learning K.P. System...all anew...

> > Traditional system still continues

> promote " yogas " ,exaltation,

> > debilitation,and so many now-proven-to-be-without-any-rationales

> etc., making traditional astrology a " bhel " of unproven/untested

> yogas,each contradicting the other...and so on and on and on...No

> body has tried to even discard the old worn-out ideas not

applicable

> presently...leading to confusion worse confounded......hence I am

of

> the firm belief that traditional astrology confuses more than it

> teaches...hence I sincerely recommend people desirous of learning

> K.P., to delearn traditional astrology before learning K.P....

> > I hope you now understand my comments in

> the right context...

> > With best wishes,

> > L.Y.Rao.

> >

> > " K. P. Naidu " <konathalan@> wrote:

> > Dear Mr.LY Rao garu,

> >

> > Your entire message is good except the last sentence " study K.P,

> forget traditional astrology " . There are umpteen number of

systems,

> methods and believes in Astrology. I feel it is not correct to say

> that what I believe/practice is correct and all others are

> incorrect. similarly in medical science. similarly in religion and

> so on so forth. Knowledge is more than a ocean. what man knows is

a

> speck in the ocean. With that speck of knowledge one should not

feel

> he is correct. There is still a lot of unknown science either in

> astrology or in any other field man has yet to know/discover.

> > Hope the above may kindly be taken in its true spirit not in

> person.

> >

> > Good Luck.

> >

> > KP Naidu

> >

> >

> > K. P. Naidu,

> > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,

> > Nowroji Road,

> > Maharanipeta,

> > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.

> > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591.

> >

> > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without

> download.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Bhaskar, At the risk of repitition,K.P., does not recognise any Yogas,be they Raja Yogas or Pancha Mahapurusha Yogas etc... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao.Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Shri Sambasivaji,I understand what you are saying andfully agree to your views. But here the mix isalready there,in form of Vimsottari Dasha, namesof Nakshatras, Significations of what each housestands for (In KP - Cusps), Nakshatra Lords, Badhaka,Retrogression ( In KP used in Horary), WesternHouse division (In KP - Placidus) etcetra.We are not here to mix further, but to polish thepredictions derived in KP.( The 4 step theory is also a attempt to polish the results of KP, by looking at theweight of each Planet by searching whether its owned Cusps are Vacant or not, by searching whetherthere are any planets in particular planets Nakshatras etcetra)or in Cuspal interlinks which is moving to further minuter sub divisions as in SSL or SSSL ) So here also we are attempting to do similiar polishingbut within demarcated Lines, and

not moving away fromthe approaches of KP, or the approachthrough which KP emerged (Traditional).The basicway of predictive KP Modules should not be touched,is what my aim is, and the rest of attempts may be observed as ancillary or capillaries to the Main Predictive Module of KP.best wishes,Bhaskar. , rao chitturu <csr162002 wrote:>> Sir,> May I add-> Comparision of systems have a basis - but this should not result in mixing of system in predictions. This is only a caution - not a criticism> Sambasiva rao> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> Dear Sairamanji,> > // This means when a horoscope is powerful as per KP & also as per > Prasari ie exaltation etc of planets, then only it confers great > results.// (Message 15801

by Shri Sehgal ji)> > This view has been mentioned by me in message No.Message > 15723 as under-> > // Do Yogas fructify ? Yes or No.> They do.> But one should know how to see them.> If a Yoga persists both in the Natal Chart,> as well as the Cuspal Chart, then only it> would fructify, otherwise not. //> > Shri Chittaranjan Ghoshji and Shri Ashok Sehgalji have > confirmed this by personal experience, and so do I.> > The Yogas as mentuoned by the Rishis are not baseless,> and neither are their shlokas, but they would> never allow a common man to understand these shlokas> who would have access to these, as foreseen by these > Great Rishis of Yore. therefore they never mentioned > in plain words how these Yogas would manifest in> whose Horoscopes and whose not.> > These Yogas are certainly there but would fructify

only,> when they are present , not only> in the Natal Chart, but also in the KP Placidus Chart.> As soon as the planets change position in the Bhava > Chalit, or in the Placidus Cuspal Chart,> they would cease to manifest.> > Let us not be rigid but progressive in our study and > research , as our Master Shri KrishnaMurthyji would > have wanted us to be, had he been here in person.> You cannot expect a Man of 60 Years normal age ,to> study and research each and every aspect of this > great Ocean of Indian astrology, with its boundless> dimensions and give his verdict on same.> > It is left to us students of Our Great master to > continue the research with an unbiased view and > broadmindedness as mentioned by our Beloved > Moderator/Owner of this Forum Shri Pandeyji too.> > Well I have now said what i wished to.> Its left to the

rest of the members to search for these> Yogas in their Clients Horoscopes and see whether they> also remain in the KP Chart,> and actually manifest in the natives Life.> But be careful, they would only manifest when the> Planets constituting these yogas appear as > Dasha Lords, otherwise not.> > best wishes,> Bhaskar. > > , sairam nat <sairaman53@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sir,> > > > i feel instead of discrding the exaltation and deblitation which > does not work i practice as told in vedic astrology for many number > people it is better to to take the sign say thesign value air sign > water fixed etc instead the value of planets value 3 planets > exaltation abverage life and 2 planets deblitation very rich life > can be seen

in practice > > > > we can take the value ofthe house the star or sub lords located > moving dual fixed fire earth water etc > > > > planets is stationery for a longer period eg. saturn in leo for > more than 2.5 yrs and several million born during that period can we > fix all born during this period to the same value in life > > > > it is very difficult to erase from mind the thinking of yogas and > exaltation and deblitation > > > > each family members can be taken andanalyse so many yogas in mosty > horoascopes the fast moving moon coming in an angleto jupiter very > frequently forming gajakesari yoga etc ... there are very very few > percentage of people live in high position and more than 80 percent > live in poor conditions if yogas to fruitify to all all should be > very well in life even for a beggar many

yogas may be there are our > servant maids and also a beggar may hav e beautiful fate line > extending from below the palm upto sun mount he is begging there is > no convincing answer for these contradictions > > > > we are cell phone and net age let us not think of bullock cart > what gives results and works well let us try to ahieve things from > that however the foundation and basics like alphabits is vedic > traditional astrology > > > > thank y sir with my regards for yr wounderful apt crisp > knowledgeable thought proviking creative messages however very few > writings from y expecting more and more from y sir > > > > > > THANK Y THANK Y > > > > > > SAIRAMAN 8 08 AM 28 12 07> > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > wrote: > > Dear Mr.Naidu,> > Traditional

astrology, as is presently > advocated and followed by a number of "schools of astrology",has > been thoroughly proven to be vague and inaccurate,prediction-wise,as > compared to the pinpoint and precise predictions based on K.P., > which is based on traditional astrology,and is the "new improved and > more accurate system of astrology..."> > My comment referred-to, by you,was given in > this context...I have myself studied traditional astrology, the > B.V.Raman's school and practised it for long years...and was so > disillusoned with astrology,that I gave up astrology...untill I met > Shri K.S. Krishnamurthiji himself at Bhopal,where I was posted > then,and attended his 3-day seminar...and immediately I decided to > begin learning K.P. System...all anew...> > Traditional system still continues > promote"yogas",exaltation,> >

debilitation,and so many now-proven-to-be-without-any-rationales > etc., making traditional astrology a "bhel" of unproven/untested > yogas,each contradicting the other...and so on and on and on...No > body has tried to even discard the old worn-out ideas not applicable > presently...leading to confusion worse confounded......hence I am of > the firm belief that traditional astrology confuses more than it > teaches...hence I sincerely recommend people desirous of learning > K.P., to delearn traditional astrology before learning K.P....> > I hope you now understand my comments in > the right context...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@> wrote:> > Dear Mr.LY Rao garu,> > > > Your entire message is good except the last sentence "study K.P, > forget traditional

astrology". There are umpteen number of systems, > methods and believes in Astrology. I feel it is not correct to say > that what I believe/practice is correct and all others are > incorrect. similarly in medical science. similarly in religion and > so on so forth. Knowledge is more than a ocean. what man knows is a > speck in the ocean. With that speck of knowledge one should not feel > he is correct. There is still a lot of unknown science either in > astrology or in any other field man has yet to know/discover. > > Hope the above may kindly be taken in its true spirit not in > person.> > > > Good Luck.> > > > KP Naidu> > > > > > K. P. Naidu,> > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > Nowroji Road,> > Maharanipeta,> > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > >

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Sir, I totally agree with you. By "mix" I mean to avoid any likely errors - but not otherwise. Pl.let me offer this clarification. Sambasiva rao. Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Shri Sambasivaji,I understand what you are saying andfully agree to your views. But here the mix isalready there,in form of Vimsottari Dasha, namesof Nakshatras, Significations of what each housestands for (In KP - Cusps), Nakshatra Lords, Badhaka,Retrogression ( In KP used in

Horary), WesternHouse division (In KP - Placidus) etcetra.We are not here to mix further, but to polish thepredictions derived in KP.( The 4 step theory is also a attempt to polish the results of KP, by looking at theweight of each Planet by searching whether its owned Cusps are Vacant or not, by searching whetherthere are any planets in particular planets Nakshatras etcetra)or in Cuspal interlinks which is moving to further minuter sub divisions as in SSL or SSSL ) So here also we are attempting to do similiar polishingbut within demarcated Lines, and not moving away fromthe approaches of KP, or the approachthrough which KP emerged (Traditional).The basicway of predictive KP Modules should not be touched,is what my aim is, and the rest of attempts may be observed as ancillary or capillaries to the Main Predictive Module of KP.best wishes,Bhaskar. , rao chitturu <csr162002 wrote:>> Sir,> May I add-> Comparision of systems have a basis - but this should not result in mixing of system in predictions. This is only a caution - not a criticism> Sambasiva rao> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> Dear Sairamanji,> > // This means when a horoscope is powerful as per KP & also as per > Prasari ie exaltation etc of planets, then only it confers great > results.// (Message 15801 by Shri Sehgal ji)> > This view has been mentioned by me in message No.Message > 15723 as under-> > // Do Yogas fructify ? Yes or No.> They do.> But one should know how to see them.> If a Yoga persists both in the Natal Chart,> as well as the Cuspal Chart, then only it> would fructify,

otherwise not. //> > Shri Chittaranjan Ghoshji and Shri Ashok Sehgalji have > confirmed this by personal experience, and so do I.> > The Yogas as mentuoned by the Rishis are not baseless,> and neither are their shlokas, but they would> never allow a common man to understand these shlokas> who would have access to these, as foreseen by these > Great Rishis of Yore. therefore they never mentioned > in plain words how these Yogas would manifest in> whose Horoscopes and whose not.> > These Yogas are certainly there but would fructify only,> when they are present , not only> in the Natal Chart, but also in the KP Placidus Chart.> As soon as the planets change position in the Bhava > Chalit, or in the Placidus Cuspal Chart,> they would cease to manifest.> > Let us not be rigid but progressive in our study and > research , as our

Master Shri KrishnaMurthyji would > have wanted us to be, had he been here in person.> You cannot expect a Man of 60 Years normal age ,to> study and research each and every aspect of this > great Ocean of Indian astrology, with its boundless> dimensions and give his verdict on same.> > It is left to us students of Our Great master to > continue the research with an unbiased view and > broadmindedness as mentioned by our Beloved > Moderator/Owner of this Forum Shri Pandeyji too.> > Well I have now said what i wished to.> Its left to the rest of the members to search for these> Yogas in their Clients Horoscopes and see whether they> also remain in the KP Chart,> and actually manifest in the natives Life.> But be careful, they would only manifest when the> Planets constituting these yogas appear as > Dasha Lords, otherwise not.> >

best wishes,> Bhaskar. > > , sairam nat <sairaman53@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sir,> > > > i feel instead of discrding the exaltation and deblitation which > does not work i practice as told in vedic astrology for many number > people it is better to to take the sign say thesign value air sign > water fixed etc instead the value of planets value 3 planets > exaltation abverage life and 2 planets deblitation very rich life > can be seen in practice > > > > we can take the value ofthe house the star or sub lords located > moving dual fixed fire earth water etc > > > > planets is stationery for a longer period eg. saturn in leo for > more than 2.5 yrs and several million born during that period can we > fix all born during

this period to the same value in life > > > > it is very difficult to erase from mind the thinking of yogas and > exaltation and deblitation > > > > each family members can be taken andanalyse so many yogas in mosty > horoascopes the fast moving moon coming in an angleto jupiter very > frequently forming gajakesari yoga etc ... there are very very few > percentage of people live in high position and more than 80 percent > live in poor conditions if yogas to fruitify to all all should be > very well in life even for a beggar many yogas may be there are our > servant maids and also a beggar may hav e beautiful fate line > extending from below the palm upto sun mount he is begging there is > no convincing answer for these contradictions > > > > we are cell phone and net age let us not think of bullock cart > what gives results

and works well let us try to ahieve things from > that however the foundation and basics like alphabits is vedic > traditional astrology > > > > thank y sir with my regards for yr wounderful apt crisp > knowledgeable thought proviking creative messages however very few > writings from y expecting more and more from y sir > > > > > > THANK Y THANK Y > > > > > > SAIRAMAN 8 08 AM 28 12 07> > > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > wrote: > > Dear Mr.Naidu,> > Traditional astrology, as is presently > advocated and followed by a number of "schools of astrology",has > been thoroughly proven to be vague and inaccurate,prediction-wise,as > compared to the pinpoint and precise predictions based on K.P., > which is based on traditional astrology,and is the "new improved and > more

accurate system of astrology..."> > My comment referred-to, by you,was given in > this context...I have myself studied traditional astrology, the > B.V.Raman's school and practised it for long years...and was so > disillusoned with astrology,that I gave up astrology...untill I met > Shri K.S. Krishnamurthiji himself at Bhopal,where I was posted > then,and attended his 3-day seminar...and immediately I decided to > begin learning K.P. System...all anew...> > Traditional system still continues > promote"yogas",exaltation,> > debilitation,and so many now-proven-to-be-without-any-rationales > etc., making traditional astrology a "bhel" of unproven/untested > yogas,each contradicting the other...and so on and on and on...No > body has tried to even discard the old worn-out ideas not applicable > presently...leading to confusion

worse confounded......hence I am of > the firm belief that traditional astrology confuses more than it > teaches...hence I sincerely recommend people desirous of learning > K.P., to delearn traditional astrology before learning K.P....> > I hope you now understand my comments in > the right context...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > "K. P. Naidu" <konathalan@> wrote:> > Dear Mr.LY Rao garu,> > > > Your entire message is good except the last sentence "study K.P, > forget traditional astrology". There are umpteen number of systems, > methods and believes in Astrology. I feel it is not correct to say > that what I believe/practice is correct and all others are > incorrect. similarly in medical science. similarly in religion and > so on so forth. Knowledge is more than a ocean. what man knows is a

> speck in the ocean. With that speck of knowledge one should not feel > he is correct. There is still a lot of unknown science either in > astrology or in any other field man has yet to know/discover. > > Hope the above may kindly be taken in its true spirit not in > person.> > > > Good Luck.> > > > KP Naidu> > > > > > K. P. Naidu,> > Flat E-1, Prince Aptmts.,> > Nowroji Road,> > Maharanipeta,> > VISAKHAPATNAM 530002.> > Phone Resi: 0891-2712591. > > > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without > download. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required.

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