Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Respected group members I would like to invite your valuable experiances and views on one of the big riddle in kp system to choose effective significators.As most of the time , we get number of planets(many times all the planets )as significators for any desired event.But actually effective or fruitful significators remain 2-3 or 4 It is very common in this situation to get ellimination with the help of ruling planets,but many many times it misses some planets also!!! which actually give result. There are also many views like some see star lord of these significators and then see confirmation of its acts by sublord. I personally think there is lack of standardization in choosing the effective significators.when any event happened it is easy to justify because we know the planets which gave results and justify them as fruitful significator is comparatively easy than to search it before happening of event. I would like to others experiance how they select effective significators and what was the reason when their predictions went wrong by this criterion of selection.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear Dubeyji, Actually the rules are simple, but theassessment of the significators at the timeof application of these rules may be a bit difficult at times,and may be very easy at other times. I will mention my own observation , and youmay take it as coming from a student ofKP and not as some one having good knowledge. Example (Horary Chart)Native came to me and asked me." Will I be able to buy a House this year ? I am looking for one."He does not have his Birth details and I prepare a Horary Chart. The Mahadasha Lord Sun is okay in significations.The Antardasha Lord X is placed in a starsignifying 2,4 and 11. The sublord also signifiesbenefic Cusps and not the 12th to these Cusps. I immediately check the antardashaperiod which is of few months span, andgive him a positive reply. This is is the power of predicting through KP where You get immediateresults. Answer comes in 2 minutes flat after preparing Horary Chart. This speed and perfection in answering can come only through KP. (Advantage) Example (Natal Chart)Native comes to me and says that -" I have heard your reputation. I wishyou to see my chart and tell me my currentproblem and the solutions". He does nottalk further but waits for me to makean assessment. I check his current MD and AD. The Antardasha Lord is in Star signifying5,8,9 and the subLord signifies 6,12.Now here i am in a fix and dont knowwhat to predict him. (Disadvantage) Shall I tell him -That his first child is going to have problems ?He himself is going to suffer a heart attack ?He is suffering ill health and going to have surgery and subsequent hospitalisation ?He is suffering huge losses in his Share Market investments ?His business is at present suffering a huge setback ?His marriage is in doldrums .His Love affair is on verge of breakeing? In all above answers the 12 Cuspal SubLords wouldcome in picture. Now even after assessing alllof above I would be unable to give him a clearcut reply. Suppose I am able to locate the correct reply through fluke, and if the antardasha period is over a span of 3 Years, then again I find a problem in timing the event. In this example the assessment becomes difficult unless Native puts a Query, just by checking the significators I would not be able to reply. ( I am not talking of senior astrologers here, but of Myself and my own inability). I personally feel that checking the StarLord of the SubLords for any Cuspal checking should suffice.For instance if I wish to know what is the weight of the 2nd house in my horoscope, I will check the 2nd Cusp SubLord and its starLord and sub.But when I have to check the effects of the antardasha Lord, I will limit myself to its starLord and the SubLordand not go further in checking the StarLord of this Antardasha Lord's Sub Lord. (otherwise it creates confusion, at least for me) But this is a individual observation of course.It works with me. I also normally check the sign where the StarLord is placed to check the weight of the StarLord.For instance in Aquarius lagna if X Planet is thecurrent mahadasha Lord for any native and placedin star of Jupiter and signifies 11,11 and 2with SubLord significators also benefic, then I would tell the Native that this Mahadasha isgoing to be a Dream come true mahadasha for You,provided that the sign in which Jupiter is placed is Sagittarius. But in same case and Planet X as Mahadashawith starLord as Jupiter signifying 11,11,2 andbenefic Sublord significations, but Jupiter placedin sign Capricorn, I will tell the native just,that the mahadasha is going to be good forYou. (Here I would not use the words a Dasha withDreams come true). Hope the above mail makes some sense, and ifit does not, then please ignore it and forgive me fortaking your valuable time. You may treat it as the mumblings of a person still searching for the truths. regards,Bhaskar. , "dubeyamitkumar" <dubeyamitkumar wrote:>> Respected group members> > I would like to invite your valuable > experiances and views on one of the big riddle in kp system to > choose effective significators.As most of the time , we get number > of planets(many times all the planets )as significators for any > desired event.But actually effective or fruitful significators > remain 2-3 or 4> It is very common in this situation to get ellimination with the > help of ruling planets,but many many times it misses some planets > also!!! which actually give result.> There are also many views like some see star lord of these > significators and then see confirmation of its acts by sublord.> I personally think there is lack of > standardization in choosing the effective significators.when any > event happened it is easy to justify because we know the planets > which gave results and justify them as fruitful significator is > comparatively easy than to search it before happening of event.> I would like to others experiance how they > select effective significators and what was the reason when their > predictions went wrong by this criterion of selection..> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Dear Amitkumar! Regarding your mail; the whole crux of the matter is selecting effective planets. Normally the process has to more strealined by research with unfailing accuracy.To my mind intuition plays a vital role.But nevertheless I also request members of this group to focus their attention to this issue and come out with rules. Thanking you and with regards, Jammalamadugu Rangandubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar wrote: Respected group membersI would like to invite your valuable experiances and views on one of the big riddle in kp system to choose effective significators.As most of the time , we get number of planets(many times all the planets )as significators for any desired event.But actually effective or fruitful significators remain 2-3 or 4It is very common in this situation to get ellimination with the help of ruling planets,but many many times it misses some planets also!!! which actually give result.There are also many views like some see star lord of these significators and then see confirmation of its acts by sublord.I personally think there is lack of standardization in choosing the effective significators.when any event happened it is easy to justify because we know the planets which gave results and justify them as fruitful significator is comparatively easy than to search it before happening of event.I would like to others experiance how they select effective significators and what was the reason when their predictions went wrong by this criterion of selection.. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Sir, Excellent! We would like to have some more cases of analysis like this . sujatkaram , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Dubeyji, Actually the rules are simple, but the > assessment of the significators at the time > of application of these rules may be a bit > difficult at times,and may be very easy at > other times. I will mention my own observation , and you > may take it as coming from a student of > KP and not as some one having good knowledge. Example (Horary Chart) > Native came to me and asked me. > " Will I be able to buy a House this year ? > I am looking for one. " > He does not have his Birth details and I > prepare a Horary Chart. The Mahadasha Lord Sun is okay in > significations. > The Antardasha Lord X is placed in a star > signifying 2,4 and 11. The sublord also signifies > benefic Cusps and not the 12th to these > Cusps. I immediately check the antardasha > period which is of few months span, and > give him a positive reply. This is is the power > of predicting through KP where You get immediate > results. Answer comes in 2 minutes flat after preparing Horary Chart. > This speed and perfection in answering can come only through KP. > (Advantage) Example (Natal Chart) > Native comes to me and says that - > " I have heard your reputation. I wish > you to see my chart and tell me my current > problem and the solutions " . He does not > talk further but waits for me to make > an assessment. I check his current MD and AD. The Antardasha Lord is > in Star signifying > 5,8,9 and the subLord signifies 6,12. > Now here i am in a fix and dont know > what to predict him. (Disadvantage) > Shall I tell him - > That his first child is going to have problems ? > He himself is going to suffer a heart attack ? > He is suffering ill health and going to have > surgery and subsequent hospitalisation ? > He is suffering huge losses in his Share Market > investments ? > His business is at present suffering a huge setback ? > His marriage is in doldrums . > His Love affair is on verge of breakeing? In all above answers the 12 > Cuspal SubLords would > come in picture. Now even after assessing alll > of above I would be unable to give him a clear > cut reply. > Suppose I am able to locate the correct reply through > fluke, and if the antardasha period is over a span of > 3 Years, then again I find a problem in timing the event. In this > example the assessment becomes difficult unless Native puts a Query, > just by checking the significators I would not be able to reply. ( I am > not talking of senior astrologers here, but of Myself and my own > inability). I personally feel that checking the StarLord of the > SubLords for any Cuspal checking should suffice. > For instance if I wish to know what is the weight of > the 2nd house in my horoscope, I will check the 2nd > Cusp SubLord and its starLord and sub. > But when I have to check the effects of the antardasha > Lord, I will limit myself to its starLord and the SubLord > and not go further in checking the StarLord of this > Antardasha Lord's Sub Lord. (otherwise it creates confusion, at least > for me) But this is a individual observation of course. > It works with me. I also normally check the sign where the StarLord > is placed to check the weight of the StarLord. > For instance in Aquarius lagna if X Planet is the > current mahadasha Lord for any native and placed > in star of Jupiter and signifies 11,11 and 2 > with SubLord significators also benefic, then I > would tell the Native that this Mahadasha is > going to be a Dream come true mahadasha for You, > provided that the sign in which Jupiter is placed > is Sagittarius. But in same case and Planet X as Mahadasha > with starLord as Jupiter signifying 11,11,2 and > benefic Sublord significations, but Jupiter placed > in sign Capricorn, I will tell the native just, > that the mahadasha is going to be good for > You. (Here I would not use the words a Dasha with > Dreams come true). Hope the above mail makes some sense, and if > it does not, then please ignore it and forgive me for > taking your valuable time. You may treat it as the mumblings of a > person still searching for the truths. regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " dubeyamitkumar " <dubeyamitkumar@> > wrote: > > > > Respected group members > > > > I would like to invite your valuable > > experiances and views on one of the big riddle in kp system to > > choose effective significators.As most of the time , we get number > > of planets(many times all the planets )as significators for any > > desired event.But actually effective or fruitful significators > > remain 2-3 or 4 > > It is very common in this situation to get ellimination with the > > help of ruling planets,but many many times it misses some planets > > also!!! which actually give result. > > There are also many views like some see star lord of these > > significators and then see confirmation of its acts by sublord. > > I personally think there is lack of > > standardization in choosing the effective significators.when any > > event happened it is easy to justify because we know the planets > > which gave results and justify them as fruitful significator is > > comparatively easy than to search it before happening of event. > > I would like to others experiance how they > > select effective significators and what was the reason when their > > predictions went wrong by this criterion of selection.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Dear Amitkumar, As u know the ruling planets are used just to answer any question without preparing Horary chart. Our Guruji Shri KSK has given the method as under. The moment when anybody asks u a question has the answer hidden in that moment itself. whenever we have any question in our mind, the same rule works. Every moment has its ruling planets. We have to calculate RPs as under: Day lord Asc, Signlord/Starlord/Sublord/SubSublord Moon(Mind) Signlord/Starlord/Sublord/SubSublord SubSublord is stronger than Sublord and Sublord is stronger than Star lord. Starlord is stronger than Sign lord. Generally Asc. is stronger than Moon and Day lord comes at last. This is a general rule but i have seen that when no body asks u a question but a question is arised in your own mind, give preference to Moon first. If RPs of Asc. and Moon sign are totally dfferent than think that this is not the right time of query or the question has no strong curiocity. Some planets or atleast one planet of Asc and Moon must be same. This is what i believe thru my practice. This rule is more applicable in Gulbarga System where two numbers are asked within 249 and they are matched with RPs.If we have to find a fruitful time of any question, we may check the position of Sun if it is within two or three months. Moon if it is within month or couple of days and Rahu if it is within a year period. I had given percentage of examination with the help of this RPs well in advance and I had got 80% accuracy. Really KP creates miracles. Ashwin Rawal , " dubeyamitkumar " <dubeyamitkumar wrote: > > Respected group members > > I would like to invite your valuable > experiances and views on one of the big riddle in kp system to > choose effective significators.As most of the time , we get number > of planets(many times all the planets )as significators for any > desired event.But actually effective or fruitful significators > remain 2-3 or 4 > It is very common in this situation to get ellimination with the > help of ruling planets,but many many times it misses some planets > also!!! which actually give result. > There are also many views like some see star lord of these > significators and then see confirmation of its acts by sublord. > I personally think there is lack of > standardization in choosing the effective significators.when any > event happened it is easy to justify because we know the planets > which gave results and justify them as fruitful significator is > comparatively easy than to search it before happening of event. > I would like to others experiance how they > select effective significators and what was the reason when their > predictions went wrong by this criterion of selection.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Dear Sujatkaram, Pl. refer to my note sent to you,on the method of selecting the most fruitful significators who are certain to offer results...sent to you... K.P. has given all the rules necessary for arriving at the correct timing of events... It might also help reading once again the chapter "Timing of Events"...,personally I read this chapter as often as I can,in my free time... L.Y.Rao.sujatkaram <sujatkaram wrote: Sir,Excellent!We would like to have some more cases of analysis like this .sujatkaram , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> Dear Dubeyji, Actually the rules are simple, but the> assessment of the significators at the time> of application of these rules may be a bit> difficult at times,and may be very easy at> other times. I will mention my own observation , and you> may take it as coming from a student of> KP and not as some one having good knowledge. Example (Horary Chart)> Native came to me and asked me.> " Will I be able to buy a House this year ?> I am looking for one."> He does not have his Birth details and I> prepare a Horary Chart. The Mahadasha Lord Sun is okay in> significations.> The Antardasha Lord X is placed in a star> signifying 2,4 and 11. The sublord also signifies> benefic Cusps and not the 12th to these> Cusps. I immediately check the antardasha> period which is of few months span, and> give him a positive reply. This is is the power> of predicting through KP where You get immediate> results. Answer comes in 2 minutes flat after preparing Horary Chart.> This speed and perfection in answering can come only through KP.> (Advantage) Example (Natal Chart)> Native comes to me and says that -> " I have heard your reputation. I wish> you to see my chart and tell me my current> problem and the solutions". He does not> talk further but waits for me to make> an assessment. I check his current MD and AD. The Antardasha Lord is> in Star signifying> 5,8,9 and the subLord signifies 6,12.> Now here i am in a fix and dont know> what to predict him. (Disadvantage)> Shall I tell him -> That his first child is going to have problems ?> He himself is going to suffer a heart attack ?> He is suffering ill health and going to have> surgery and subsequent hospitalisation ?> He is suffering huge losses in his Share Market> investments ?> His business is at present suffering a huge setback ?> His marriage is in doldrums .> His Love affair is on verge of breakeing? In all above answers the 12> Cuspal SubLords would> come in picture. Now even after assessing alll> of above I would be unable to give him a clear> cut reply.> Suppose I am able to locate the correct reply through> fluke, and if the antardasha period is over a span of> 3 Years, then again I find a problem in timing the event. In this> example the assessment becomes difficult unless Native puts a Query,> just by checking the significators I would not be able to reply. ( I am> not talking of senior astrologers here, but of Myself and my own> inability). I personally feel that checking the StarLord of the> SubLords for any Cuspal checking should suffice.> For instance if I wish to know what is the weight of> the 2nd house in my horoscope, I will check the 2nd> Cusp SubLord and its starLord and sub.> But when I have to check the effects of the antardasha> Lord, I will limit myself to its starLord and the SubLord> and not go further in checking the StarLord of this> Antardasha Lord's Sub Lord. (otherwise it creates confusion, at least> for me) But this is a individual observation of course.> It works with me. I also normally check the sign where the StarLord> is placed to check the weight of the StarLord.> For instance in Aquarius lagna if X Planet is the> current mahadasha Lord for any native and placed> in star of Jupiter and signifies 11,11 and 2> with SubLord significators also benefic, then I> would tell the Native that this Mahadasha is> going to be a Dream come true mahadasha for You,> provided that the sign in which Jupiter is placed> is Sagittarius. But in same case and Planet X as Mahadasha> with starLord as Jupiter signifying 11,11,2 and> benefic Sublord significations, but Jupiter placed> in sign Capricorn, I will tell the native just,> that the mahadasha is going to be good for> You. (Here I would not use the words a Dasha with> Dreams come true). Hope the above mail makes some sense, and if> it does not, then please ignore it and forgive me for> taking your valuable time. You may treat it as the mumblings of a> person still searching for the truths. regards,> Bhaskar.> > > > > > , "dubeyamitkumar" <dubeyamitkumar@>> wrote:> >> > Respected group members> >> > I would like to invite your valuable> > experiances and views on one of the big riddle in kp system to> > choose effective significators.As most of the time , we get number> > of planets(many times all the planets )as significators for any> > desired event.But actually effective or fruitful significators> > remain 2-3 or 4> > It is very common in this situation to get ellimination with the> > help of ruling planets,but many many times it misses some planets> > also!!! which actually give result.> > There are also many views like some see star lord of these> > significators and then see confirmation of its acts by sublord.> > I personally think there is lack of> > standardization in choosing the effective significators.when any> > event happened it is easy to justify because we know the planets> > which gave results and justify them as fruitful significator is> > comparatively easy than to search it before happening of event.> > I would like to others experiance how they> > select effective significators and what was the reason when their> > predictions went wrong by this criterion of selection..> >> Meet people who discuss and share your passions. 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