need of muhurat??

[Guest guest]

Respected group members

PLZ put some light on the need of muhurat???

If desteny works always and as ksk wrote many times that NO ONE CAN

DOGDE THE FATE,do you ppl think good muhurat can change the mis

happening if it is bound to happen in near future???Do you not think

if some one comes to know goodmuhurat and go accordingly and achive

good result it is not due to good muhurat but due to his fate???

I am seeking comments on it and also

citation given by mentors.

WITH REGARDS

AMIT

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr Dubey

Namaskar

Your fate itself will decide the selection of

muhurat.Selection of auspicious time will act like a

balm in case any unpleasant occurrence happens.The

pain or the disappointment will be considerably

reduced.One will take a philosophical view of the

event and in this way lessen the impact of

disappointment.

With regards

Yours sincerely

Jayant Giri

--- dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar wrote:

 

> Respected group members

> PLZ put some light on the

> need of muhurat???

> If desteny works always and as ksk wrote many times

> that NO ONE CAN

> DOGDE THE FATE,do you ppl think good muhurat can

> change the mis

> happening if it is bound to happen in near

> future???Do you not think

> if some one comes to know goodmuhurat and go

> accordingly and achive

> good result it is not due to good muhurat but due to

> his fate???

> I am seeking comments on

> it and also

> citation given by mentors.

>

> WITH REGARDS

>

> AMIT

>

>

 

 

Jayant Giri

 

 

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Dear Amit Kumar,

 

As a customary practice since a long time we follow muhurat method for

performing important events. this is to keep our mind without any

ambiguity that we have taken right auspicious muhurat for performing

the imporant function.

This would give a relief that we have taken all possible measures as

per tradition. The out come of the event would definitely on the Fate

or Birth chart of the individual. that is why we see in news items

that when a function was taken up in some cases mishap have taken

place negative things have cropped up. The main cardinal principle is

when the Fate is favourable things would be favourable but to avoid

confusion we follow muhurat system to avoid reasoning to that proper

muhurat was not adhered hence the problem has arisen ( we attribute it

not good muhurat but not to the fate)

 

 

With regards

 

 

 

O.V.N.MURTHY,M.Com.FCS.,

COMPANY SECRETARY,

NIZAM SUGARS LIMITED,

HYDERABAD-A.P.

PH.NO.23232212 / CELL NO.9441778427

www.saibhavishyavani.com

ovnmurthy

 

, " dubeyamitkumar "

<dubeyamitkumar wrote:

>

> Respected group members

> PLZ put some light on the need of

muhurat???

> If desteny works always and as ksk wrote many times that NO ONE CAN

> DOGDE THE FATE,do you ppl think good muhurat can change the mis

> happening if it is bound to happen in near future???Do you not think

> if some one comes to know goodmuhurat and go accordingly and achive

> good result it is not due to good muhurat but due to his fate???

> I am seeking comments on it and also

> citation given by mentors.

> WITH REGARDS

>

AMIT

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Dubeyji,

 

Good Muhurats cannot change ones bad destiny,

but reduce the pains of a bad destiny.

Vice versa it can also adda sparkle to a good

destiny.

 

Example - When you were born you may have been

destined to become bankrupt in certain areas

of Your Life and at certain periods of your Life,

which we call as bad destiny, which may be in

any department say a rough and tough nagging

masculine type wife,or a small salary, or a

thankless worthless job with no job satisfaction,

or a bad brother,or a continous run of a bad dasha

or Mahadasha. Now Suppose you were minus Rs. 5 lakhs

in Your Bank account with OD Limits over and out.

Now when you choose Muhurutas,wear gems,recite mantras,

Do poojas,or herbs related to the specific planets

causing this deficiency, or even just in general,

then with every such action on Your part, instead

of adding to the minus in Your Bank account,

You are now adding Rs.50- Rs.100 or whatever it may

be corresponding with your good actions and remedial

measures,which includes choosing Muhurutas too,

and making this deficit lesser and lesser so

that you have less to carry on, in your next Birth.

 

Hence Muhuratas must neither be underestimated, and

nor be over estimated. Dridha karmas and their

dridha results have to be borne and done off with,

despite remedial measures, while the rest may be

considerably reduced. ( Born without a limb in

a body or only one eye or a disfigured body, or

small longevity running for all daughters in a family,

or a person living continously in poverty and hand

to mouth existence though working like a animal

throughout the day,etcetra

are all examples of individual and colective dridha

karmas done in previous Birth/Births .

 

Now most of us, including

astrologers too, do not know what dridha paap they

have done in their previous Lives, since we are not

Yogis, therefore it is best to believe in these measures

like Muhurtha etc.,

but not expect spectacular changes or transformations,

and sensibly continue using Muhuratas and other resources

wherever necessary, but not to the point of fatalism.

 

Remember there is no substitute for Hard work.

Faith in God first.Good Karmas alongwith hard work.

Next comes astrology.

 

best regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " dubeyamitkumar "

<dubeyamitkumar wrote:

>

> Respected group members

> PLZ put some light on the need of

muhurat???

> If desteny works always and as ksk wrote many times that NO ONE

CAN

> DOGDE THE FATE,do you ppl think good muhurat can change the mis

> happening if it is bound to happen in near future???Do you not

think

> if some one comes to know goodmuhurat and go accordingly and

achive

> good result it is not due to good muhurat but due to his fate???

> I am seeking comments on it and also

> citation given by mentors.

> WITH REGARDS

> AMIT

>

[Guest guest]

Before arriving to a definite conclusion regarding Muhurat, we need to

finalize who is stronger...the destiny which is indicated by cuspal

sublord or the time of doing an act.

 

This means,one who is denied of children as per 5th cusp, can get

children selecting a good muhurat.

 

This in turn makes all the knowledge of KP Astrology null and void.

 

Or if both are true, then one not destined will never be able to use the

favorable muhurat despite his efforts.

 

Comments from members please

 

 

Suprakash

 

 

On

Behalf Of jayant giri

Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:40 PM

 

Re: need of muhurat??

 

Dear Mr Dubey

Namaskar

Your fate itself will decide the selection of

muhurat.Selection of auspicious time will act like a

balm in case any unpleasant occurrence happens.The

pain or the disappointment will be considerably

reduced.One will take a philosophical view of the

event and in this way lessen the impact of

disappointment.

With regards

Yours sincerely

Jayant Giri

--- dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar wrote:

 

> Respected group members

> PLZ put some light on the

> need of muhurat???

> If desteny works always and as ksk wrote many times

> that NO ONE CAN

> DOGDE THE FATE,do you ppl think good muhurat can

> change the mis

> happening if it is bound to happen in near

> future???Do you not think

> if some one comes to know goodmuhurat and go

> accordingly and achive

> good result it is not due to good muhurat but due to

> his fate???

> I am seeking comments on

> it and also

> citation given by mentors.

>

> WITH REGARDS

>

> AMIT

>

>

 

 

Jayant Giri

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Respected group members

Thnaks for sharing views on muhuhrat I

further extend the arena for disscussions on followings statements.

 

1- If astrology can Predict events which is now hide but will appear

in time it means events are there in destiny.If destiny can be

changed or modified how will astrology can predict.For example we

all are very familiar to be asked by pathologist before taking out

blood for maleria test that whether anti maleria drugs is taken or

not before? He asked this because he knew drugs(precaution) can

change,BUT DID ANYONE HEARED THAT ANY ASTROLOGER HAD ASKED BEFORE

GIVING PREDICTIONS THAT WHETHER CLIENT HAS TAKEN ANY PRECAUTION(MAY

BE IN FORM OF MUHURAT,STONES,PUJAS,MANTRA ETC),Even those who

recommend all these never bothered to ask what precautions have

already been taken .

2- I have the perception like that when we do some act like

journey ,marriage etc then beginning of act is the birth of act,AS

for any native, birth parameter decides ones fate ,like that fate

of the act will be governed by its beginning which is closely

related to muhurat.If act is started in aspecious time the fate of

act should be good as I personally think.How will ones fate(who is

related with the act and its outcome) will affect the fate of act is

the matter of research and disscussion.

 

Hope to see valuable, knowedlegable comments on

above .

WITH REGARDS

AMIT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In , " Suprakash Ghosh "

<suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

> Before arriving to a definite conclusion regarding Muhurat, we

need to

> finalize who is stronger...the destiny which is indicated by cuspal

> sublord or the time of doing an act.

>

> This means,one who is denied of children as per 5th cusp, can get

> children selecting a good muhurat.

>

> This in turn makes all the knowledge of KP Astrology null and void.

>

> Or if both are true, then one not destined will never be able to

use the

> favorable muhurat despite his efforts.

>

> Comments from members please

>

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

On

> Behalf Of jayant giri

> Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:40 PM

>

> Re: need of muhurat??

>

> Dear Mr Dubey

> Namaskar

> Your fate itself will decide the selection of

> muhurat.Selection of auspicious time will act like a

> balm in case any unpleasant occurrence happens.The

> pain or the disappointment will be considerably

> reduced.One will take a philosophical view of the

> event and in this way lessen the impact of

> disappointment.

> With regards

> Yours sincerely

> Jayant Giri

> --- dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar wrote:

>

> > Respected group members

> > PLZ put some light on the

> > need of muhurat???

> > If desteny works always and as ksk wrote many times

> > that NO ONE CAN

> > DOGDE THE FATE,do you ppl think good muhurat can

> > change the mis

> > happening if it is bound to happen in near

> > future???Do you not think

> > if some one comes to know goodmuhurat and go

> > accordingly and achive

> > good result it is not due to good muhurat but due to

> > his fate???

> > I am seeking comments on

> > it and also

> > citation given by mentors.

> >

> > WITH REGARDS

> >

> > AMIT

> >

> >

>

>

> Jayant Giri

>

>

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Dear Dubeyji,

 

Than You for giving an opportunity to talk further on this issue.

 

The major results which one has to bear, out of his previous

dridha karma, would be unchangeable, but there is scope

of change in the 3rd,6th and the 10th as well as 11th house

fructifications, where one can bring about changes as per

ones Karma.

For instance one can hold reign over his speech( 3rd house)

so that he will not make much enemies (6th house).

Or else he can make good efforts (3rd) to get returns from

the the 6th house.

Or if he is a good salesman with oratory skill (3rd house)

he can turn it into returns from his profession (6th).

In all above cases one is at liberty to either make these houses

stronger or worser.

Or if one already knows that he has a bad Jupiter in his chart

and conseqnetially a weak Liver, (6th house significations)he must

now after this knowledge cease to drink a quarter of a whisky daily

and come down to gradually 1-2 pegs per day through his efforts

and karma.(3rd and 10th).

 

Speaking good speech entirely or foul mothing entirely, is

not entirely decided by The Birth Chart. One has hold oer these

houses.

Drinking good quantity of Alcohol or small quantity, is not decided

by

the Chart , but by ones own will power and efforts to better himself.

One may use knowledge and reduce his drinking ie. better the effects

of

the 6th house, or stay with his increase intake and spoil the 6th

house

further. The Destiny does not decide this increase or decrease.

Hence we cannot say that entirely all matters are predecided and

one cannot do anything about it.

 

Similarly for the 10th and 11th house. One may sit on the bed

doing nothing and yet get food from his family members, or else

one can make his 10th house shine by continous hard work, efforts

and drive in his actions in persuit of his monthly expenditures.

The Chart does not decide whether one has to be hard working or

sit on cot with letharginess . This area of 10th house is well within

bounds of the common and Big men, which one can either use or

abuse. The ordinary unssuccesful men abuse it while the

succesful ones use and utilise this area.

The 11th house. Its in ones hands to stay contented or remain full

of never ending desires. The chart would not decide how many paans

or cups of tea you wish to have one day, or number of smokes you

wish to smoke. One may decide himself to become King Yayati

of Desire seeking or King Yayati who realises that Desires have no

end.

 

Any astrologer would mandatorily see before prescribinbg Gems,

what the native is already wearing in his palms, and advise

accordingly , if native is personally seated in front of him.

If on Phone, then he will ask the native so.

I do not think any astrologer worth his salt

would blatantly advise wanton wearing of Gems or mantras

to native without enquiring first.

I always ask natives what Pooja or Mantras they are already into,

because I do not wish to burden them more if they are

already spending one hour daily in such matters, and would then

sparingly give them only necessary mantras, and

if they are not into Pooja-worship-mantras , then I would suggest

them

some extended Forms of worship. So it is not proper to say that all

astrologers do not bother to ask client what precautions they have

already taken.

 

Beginning of the act is not always the birth of the act to give same

results

always. A baby is born at the same time in same city, place,hospital

and adjacent

beds . Do You think their destinies would be the same? Would the 5th

house

of one babies parents be the same as the other couples ? Would the

mothers

have a strong 5th house in both cases ? Would the aspects on this

5th house

be same in both cases ?

You mentioned if act is started in auspicious time, then the fate of

the act

should be good. Thuis may not be true for all people who start their

activities

in that same time. Individual Horoscopes do matter. BUT FOR THOSE BAD

HOROSCOPES RUNNING BAD DASHAS , IF ACT ACT STARTED IN

AUSPICIOUS TIME, THEN FATE OF ACT MAY NOT BE GOOD, BUT

WOULD BE LESS BAD THEN WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN, HAD

HE NOT STARTED THE SAME ACT IN THE AUSPICIOUS MOMENT

CHOSEN.

One train begins its journey from one point at one time. It meets

with a

accident. But only few die, rest leave unscathed. Why ?

 

All students give examination paper at the same time, but do they

all pass or come out first in the class ?

 

Nevertheless Muhurtha plays an important part and we must not

ignore the importance of the same or underplay it.

 

If possible then I would like a Good Muhurtha to accompany me always

regardless of my Dasha running Benefic or Malefic,does not matter.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " dubeyamitkumar "

<dubeyamitkumar wrote:

>

> Respected group members

> Thnaks for sharing views on muhuhrat I

> further extend the arena for disscussions on followings statements.

>

> 1- If astrology can Predict events which is now hide but will

appear

> in time it means events are there in destiny.If destiny can be

> changed or modified how will astrology can predict.For example we

> all are very familiar to be asked by pathologist before taking out

> blood for maleria test that whether anti maleria drugs is taken or

> not before? He asked this because he knew drugs(precaution) can

> change,BUT DID ANYONE HEARED THAT ANY ASTROLOGER HAD ASKED BEFORE

> GIVING PREDICTIONS THAT WHETHER CLIENT HAS TAKEN ANY PRECAUTION

(MAY

> BE IN FORM OF MUHURAT,STONES,PUJAS,MANTRA ETC),Even those who

> recommend all these never bothered to ask what precautions have

> already been taken .

> 2- I have the perception like that when we do some act like

> journey ,marriage etc then beginning of act is the birth of act,AS

> for any native, birth parameter decides ones fate ,like that fate

> of the act will be governed by its beginning which is closely

> related to muhurat.If act is started in aspecious time the fate of

> act should be good as I personally think.How will ones fate(who is

> related with the act and its outcome) will affect the fate of act

is

> the matter of research and disscussion.

>

> Hope to see valuable, knowedlegable comments on

> above .

> WITH REGARDS

> AMIT

>

In , " Suprakash Ghosh "

> <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Before arriving to a definite conclusion regarding Muhurat, we

> need to

> > finalize who is stronger...the destiny which is indicated by

cuspal

> > sublord or the time of doing an act.

> >

> > This means,one who is denied of children as per 5th cusp, can get

> > children selecting a good muhurat.

> >

> > This in turn makes all the knowledge of KP Astrology null and

void.

> >

> > Or if both are true, then one not destined will never be able to

> use the

> > favorable muhurat despite his efforts.

> >

> > Comments from members please

> >

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> On

> > Behalf Of jayant giri

> > Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:40 PM

> >

> > Re: need of muhurat??

> >

> > Dear Mr Dubey

> > Namaskar

> > Your fate itself will decide the selection of

> > muhurat.Selection of auspicious time will act like a

> > balm in case any unpleasant occurrence happens.The

> > pain or the disappointment will be considerably

> > reduced.One will take a philosophical view of the

> > event and in this way lessen the impact of

> > disappointment.

> > With regards

> > Yours sincerely

> > Jayant Giri

> > --- dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar@> wrote:

> >

> > > Respected group members

> > > PLZ put some light on the

> > > need of muhurat???

> > > If desteny works always and as ksk wrote many times

> > > that NO ONE CAN

> > > DOGDE THE FATE,do you ppl think good muhurat can

> > > change the mis

> > > happening if it is bound to happen in near

> > > future???Do you not think

> > > if some one comes to know goodmuhurat and go

> > > accordingly and achive

> > > good result it is not due to good muhurat but due to

> > > his fate???

> > > I am seeking comments on

> > > it and also

> > > citation given by mentors.

> > >

> > > WITH REGARDS

> > >

> > > AMIT

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > Jayant Giri

> >

> >

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Dear Amit,They say that severity of the suffering reduces But I think good deeds in this life help in reduction of suffering I too am of the view that Muhurats,are also written in destiny of those who follow muhuratsregardssujata--- On Sun, 23/12/07, dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar wrote:dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar Re: need of muhurat?? Date: Sunday, 23 December, 2007, 3:16 PM

 

Respected group members

Thnaks for sharing views on muhuhrat I

further extend the arena for disscussions on followings statements.

 

1- If astrology can Predict events which is now hide but will appear

in time it means events are there in destiny.If destiny can be

changed or modified how will astrology can predict.For example we

all are very familiar to be asked by pathologist before taking out

blood for maleria test that whether anti maleria drugs is taken or

not before? He asked this because he knew drugs(precaution) can

change,BUT DID ANYONE HEARED THAT ANY ASTROLOGER HAD ASKED BEFORE

GIVING PREDICTIONS THAT WHETHER CLIENT HAS TAKEN ANY PRECAUTION(MAY

BE IN FORM OF MUHURAT,STONES, PUJAS,MANTRA ETC),Even those who

recommend all these never bothered to ask what precautions have

already been taken .

2- I have the perception like that when we do some act like

journey ,marriage etc then beginning of act is the birth of act,AS

for any native, birth parameter decides ones fate ,like that fate

of the act will be governed by its beginning which is closely

related to muhurat.If act is started in aspecious time the fate of

act should be good as I personally think.How will ones fate(who is

related with the act and its outcome) will affect the fate of act is

the matter of research and disscussion.

 

Hope to see valuable, knowedlegable comments on

above .

WITH REGARDS

AMIT

 

In @gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh"

<suprakash.ghosh@ ...> wrote:

>

> Before arriving to a definite conclusion regarding Muhurat, we

need to

> finalize who is stronger...the destiny which is indicated by cuspal

> sublord or the time of doing an act.

>

> This means,one who is denied of children as per 5th cusp, can get

> children selecting a good muhurat.

>

> This in turn makes all the knowledge of KP Astrology null and void.

>

> Or if both are true, then one not destined will never be able to

use the

> favorable muhurat despite his efforts.

>

> Comments from members please

>

>

> Suprakash

>

>

> @gro ups.com

[@gro ups.com] On

> Behalf Of jayant giri

> Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:40 PM

> @gro ups.com

> Re: need of muhurat??

>

> Dear Mr Dubey

> Namaskar

> Your fate itself will decide the selection of

> muhurat.Selection of auspicious time will act like a

> balm in case any unpleasant occurrence happens.The

> pain or the disappointment will be considerably

> reduced.One will take a philosophical view of the

> event and in this way lessen the impact of

> disappointment.

> With regards

> Yours sincerely

> Jayant Giri

> --- dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar@ ...> wrote:

>

> > Respected group members

> > PLZ put some light on the

> > need of muhurat???

> > If desteny works always and as ksk wrote many times

> > that NO ONE CAN

> > DOGDE THE FATE,do you ppl think good muhurat can

> > change the mis

> > happening if it is bound to happen in near

> > future???Do you not think

> > if some one comes to know goodmuhurat and go

> > accordingly and achive

> > good result it is not due to good muhurat but due to

> > his fate???

> > I am seeking comments on

> > it and also

> > citation given by mentors.

> >

> > WITH REGARDS

> >

> > AMIT

> >

> >

>

>

> Jayant Giri

>

>

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Dear sir,

Thank for your nices analysis with good examples about the present karma to make a change of our 3,6,10 and 11 house result.People should understand this from their childhood to follow the correct path in life instead of being misguided as bad luck.I thing astrology should be included in our primary school syllebus.

Once again thanking for your correct advice.

wishing you all our KP members a very happy and prosperous new years2008. God may bless us all to be at peace.

With regards.

Mr Ghosh.

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 11:46:28 AM Re: need of muhurat??

 

Dear Dubeyji,Than You for giving an opportunity to talk further on this issue.The major results which one has to bear, out of his previous dridha karma, would be unchangeable, but there is scopeof change in the 3rd,6th and the 10th as well as 11th housefructifications, where one can bring about changes as per ones Karma.For instance one can hold reign over his speech( 3rd house)so that he will not make much enemies (6th house).Or else he can make good efforts (3rd) to get returns fromthe the 6th house.Or if he is a good salesman with oratory skill (3rd house)he can turn it into returns from his profession (6th).In all above cases one is at liberty to either make these housesstronger or worser.Or if one already knows that he has a bad Jupiter in his chartand conseqnetially a weak Liver, (6th house significations) he must now after this knowledge cease to drink a quarter of

a whisky daily and come down to gradually 1-2 pegs per day through his efforts and karma.(3rd and 10th).Speaking good speech entirely or foul mothing entirely, isnot entirely decided by The Birth Chart. One has hold oer thesehouses.Drinking good quantity of Alcohol or small quantity, is not decided by the Chart , but by ones own will power and efforts to better himself.One may use knowledge and reduce his drinking ie. better the effects ofthe 6th house, or stay with his increase intake and spoil the 6th house further. The Destiny does not decide this increase or decrease.Hence we cannot say that entirely all matters are predecided and one cannot do anything about it.Similarly for the 10th and 11th house. One may sit on the beddoing nothing and yet get food from his family members, or elseone can make his 10th house shine by continous hard work, efforts and drive in his

actions in persuit of his monthly expenditures.The Chart does not decide whether one has to be hard working or sit on cot with letharginess . This area of 10th house is well withinbounds of the common and Big men, which one can either use or abuse. The ordinary unssuccesful men abuse it while the succesful ones use and utilise this area.The 11th house. Its in ones hands to stay contented or remain full of never ending desires. The chart would not decide how many paans or cups of tea you wish to have one day, or number of smokes youwish to smoke. One may decide himself to become King Yayatiof Desire seeking or King Yayati who realises that Desires have noend. Any astrologer would mandatorily see before prescribinbg Gems, what the native is already wearing in his palms, and adviseaccordingly , if native is personally seated in front of him.If on Phone, then he will ask the native so.I do

not think any astrologer worth his saltwould blatantly advise wanton wearing of Gems or mantrasto native without enquiring first.I always ask natives what Pooja or Mantras they are already into,because I do not wish to burden them more if they arealready spending one hour daily in such matters, and would thensparingly give them only necessary mantras, andif they are not into Pooja-worship- mantras , then I would suggest themsome extended Forms of worship. So it is not proper to say that all astrologers do not bother to ask client what precautions they have already taken.Beginning of the act is not always the birth of the act to give same resultsalways. A baby is born at the same time in same city, place,hospital and adjacentbeds . Do You think their destinies would be the same? Would the 5th houseof one babies parents be the same as the other couples ? Would the

mothershave a strong 5th house in both cases ? Would the aspects on this 5th house be same in both cases ?You mentioned if act is started in auspicious time, then the fate of the actshould be good. Thuis may not be true for all people who start their activitiesin that same time. Individual Horoscopes do matter. BUT FOR THOSE BADHOROSCOPES RUNNING BAD DASHAS , IF ACT ACT STARTED INAUSPICIOUS TIME, THEN FATE OF ACT MAY NOT BE GOOD, BUTWOULD BE LESS BAD THEN WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN, HADHE NOT STARTED THE SAME ACT IN THE AUSPICIOUS MOMENT CHOSEN. One train begins its journey from one point at one time. It meets with aaccident. But only few die, rest leave unscathed. Why ?All students give examination paper at the same time, but do they all pass or come out first in the class ?Nevertheless Muhurtha plays an important part and we must notignore the importance of the

same or underplay it.If possible then I would like a Good Muhurtha to accompany me alwaysregardless of my Dasha running Benefic or Malefic,does not matter.best wishes,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, "dubeyamitkumar" <dubeyamitkumar@ ...> wrote:>> Respected group members> Thnaks for sharing views on muhuhrat I > further extend the arena for disscussions on followings statements.> > 1- If astrology can Predict events which is now hide but will appear > in time it means events are there in destiny.If destiny can be > changed or modified how will astrology can predict.For example we > all are very familiar to be asked by pathologist before taking out > blood for maleria test that whether anti maleria drugs is

taken or > not before? He asked this because he knew drugs(precaution) can > change,BUT DID ANYONE HEARED THAT ANY ASTROLOGER HAD ASKED BEFORE > GIVING PREDICTIONS THAT WHETHER CLIENT HAS TAKEN ANY PRECAUTION(MAY > BE IN FORM OF MUHURAT,STONES, PUJAS,MANTRA ETC),Even those who > recommend all these never bothered to ask what precautions have > already been taken . > 2- I have the perception like that when we do some act like > journey ,marriage etc then beginning of act is the birth of act,AS > for any native, birth parameter decides ones fate ,like that fate > of the act will be governed by its beginning which is closely > related to muhurat.If act is started in aspecious time the fate of > act should be good as I personally think.How will ones fate(who is > related with the act and its outcome) will affect the fate of act is > the matter of

research and disscussion.> > Hope to see valuable, knowedlegable comments on > above .> WITH REGARDS> AMIT> > > > > > > > In @gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh" > <suprakash.ghosh@ > wrote:> >> > Before arriving to a definite conclusion regarding Muhurat, we > need to> > finalize who is stronger...the destiny which is indicated by cuspal> > sublord or the time of doing an act.> > > > This means,one who is denied of children as per 5th cusp, can get> > children selecting a good muhurat.> > > > This in turn makes all the knowledge of KP Astrology null and void.> > > > Or if both are true, then one

not destined will never be able to > use the> > favorable muhurat despite his efforts.> > > > Comments from members please> > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > @gro ups.com > [@gro ups.com] On> > Behalf Of jayant giri> > Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:40 PM> > @gro ups.com> > Re: need of muhurat??> > > > Dear Mr

Dubey> > Namaskar> > Your fate itself will decide the selection of> > muhurat.Selection of auspicious time will act like a> > balm in case any unpleasant occurrence happens.The> > pain or the disappointment will be considerably> > reduced.One will take a philosophical view of the> > event and in this way lessen the impact of> > disappointment.> > With regards> > Yours sincerely> > Jayant Giri> > --- dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar@ > wrote:> > > > > Respected group members> > > PLZ put some light on the> > > need of muhurat??? > > > If desteny works always and as ksk wrote many times> > > that NO ONE CAN > > > DOGDE THE FATE,do you ppl think good muhurat can> > > change the mis > > > happening if it is bound to happen

in near> > > future???Do you not think > > > if some one comes to know goodmuhurat and go> > > accordingly and achive > > > good result it is not due to good muhurat but due to> > > his fate???> > > I am seeking comments on> > > it and also > > > citation given by mentors.> > > > > > WITH REGARDS> > > > > > AMIT> > > > > > > > > > > > Jayant Giri> > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Go > to> > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools-08.html> > > > > > > > > >

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Dear Experts, i would like to quote a saying from chanakya niti shastra. "These five: The life span, the type of work, wealth, learning and the time of one's death are determined while one is in the womb." Chanakya niti shastra, 4th chapter, 1st poem. Is not its so astonishing to hear such a quote from the great logician,economist and a great statesman of this country? After reading this quote i am really unable to believe that i am in control of my life. Because, to control the life, we must have some learning. when this was not there, how is it possible to improve one's life? Chittaranajn Ghosh <chittaranajnghosh wrote: Dear sir, Thank for your nices analysis with good examples about the present karma to make a change of our 3,6,10 and 11 house result.People should understand this from their childhood to follow the correct path in life instead of being misguided as bad luck.I thing astrology should be included in our primary school syllebus. Once again thanking for your correct advice. wishing you all our KP members a very happy and prosperous new years2008. God may bless us all to be at peace. With regards. Mr Ghosh. Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 11:46:28 AM Re: need of muhurat?? Dear Dubeyji,Than You for giving an opportunity to talk further on this issue.The major results which one has to bear, out of his previous dridha karma, would be unchangeable, but there is scopeof change in the 3rd,6th and the 10th as well as 11th housefructifications, where one can bring about changes as per ones Karma.For instance one can hold reign over his speech( 3rd house)so that he will not make much enemies (6th house).Or else he can make good efforts (3rd) to

get returns fromthe the 6th house.Or if he is a good salesman with oratory skill (3rd house)he can turn it into returns from his profession (6th).In all above cases one is at liberty to either make these housesstronger or worser.Or if one already knows that he has a bad Jupiter in his chartand conseqnetially a weak Liver, (6th house significations) he must now after this knowledge cease to drink a quarter of a whisky daily and come down to gradually 1-2 pegs per day through his efforts and karma.(3rd and 10th).Speaking good speech entirely or foul mothing entirely, isnot entirely decided by The Birth Chart. One has hold oer thesehouses.Drinking good quantity of Alcohol or small quantity, is not decided by the Chart , but by ones own will power and efforts to better himself.One may use knowledge and reduce his drinking ie. better the effects ofthe 6th house, or stay with his increase intake and

spoil the 6th house further. The Destiny does not decide this increase or decrease.Hence we cannot say that entirely all matters are predecided and one cannot do anything about it.Similarly for the 10th and 11th house. One may sit on the beddoing nothing and yet get food from his family members, or elseone can make his 10th house shine by continous hard work, efforts and drive in his actions in persuit of his monthly expenditures.The Chart does not decide whether one has to be hard working or sit on cot with letharginess . This area of 10th house is well withinbounds of the common and Big men, which one can either use or abuse. The ordinary unssuccesful men abuse it while the succesful ones use and utilise this area.The 11th house. Its in ones hands to stay contented or remain full of never ending desires. The chart would not decide how many paans or cups of tea you wish to have one day, or number of

smokes youwish to smoke. One may decide himself to become King Yayatiof Desire seeking or King Yayati who realises that Desires have noend. Any astrologer would mandatorily see before prescribinbg Gems, what the native is already wearing in his palms, and adviseaccordingly , if native is personally seated in front of him.If on Phone, then he will ask the native so.I do not think any astrologer worth his saltwould blatantly advise wanton wearing of Gems or mantrasto native without enquiring first.I always ask natives what Pooja or Mantras they are already into,because I do not wish to burden them more if they arealready spending one hour daily in such matters, and would thensparingly give them only necessary mantras, andif they are not into Pooja-worship- mantras , then I would suggest themsome extended Forms of worship. So it is not proper to say that all astrologers do not bother to ask client

what precautions they have already taken.Beginning of the act is not always the birth of the act to give same resultsalways. A baby is born at the same time in same city, place,hospital and adjacentbeds . Do You think their destinies would be the same? Would the 5th houseof one babies parents be the same as the other couples ? Would the mothershave a strong 5th house in both cases ? Would the aspects on this 5th house be same in both cases ?You mentioned if act is started in auspicious time, then the fate of the actshould be good. Thuis may not be true for all people who start their activitiesin that same time. Individual Horoscopes do matter. BUT FOR THOSE BADHOROSCOPES RUNNING BAD DASHAS , IF ACT ACT STARTED INAUSPICIOUS TIME, THEN FATE OF ACT MAY NOT BE GOOD, BUTWOULD BE LESS BAD THEN WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN, HADHE NOT STARTED THE SAME ACT IN THE AUSPICIOUS MOMENT CHOSEN. One

train begins its journey from one point at one time. It meets with aaccident. But only few die, rest leave unscathed. Why ?All students give examination paper at the same time, but do they all pass or come out first in the class ?Nevertheless Muhurtha plays an important part and we must notignore the importance of the same or underplay it.If possible then I would like a Good Muhurtha to accompany me alwaysregardless of my Dasha running Benefic or Malefic,does not matter.best wishes,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, "dubeyamitkumar" <dubeyamitkumar@ ...> wrote:>> Respected group members> Thnaks for sharing views on muhuhrat I > further extend the arena for disscussions on followings statements.> > 1- If astrology can Predict

events which is now hide but will appear > in time it means events are there in destiny.If destiny can be > changed or modified how will astrology can predict.For example we > all are very familiar to be asked by pathologist before taking out > blood for maleria test that whether anti maleria drugs is taken or > not before? He asked this because he knew drugs(precaution) can > change,BUT DID ANYONE HEARED THAT ANY ASTROLOGER HAD ASKED BEFORE > GIVING PREDICTIONS THAT WHETHER CLIENT HAS TAKEN ANY PRECAUTION(MAY > BE IN FORM OF MUHURAT,STONES, PUJAS,MANTRA ETC),Even those who > recommend all these never bothered to ask what precautions have > already been taken . > 2- I have the perception like that when we do some act like > journey ,marriage etc then beginning of act is the birth of act,AS > for any native, birth parameter decides ones fate ,like that fate > of the act

will be governed by its beginning which is closely > related to muhurat.If act is started in aspecious time the fate of > act should be good as I personally think.How will ones fate(who is > related with the act and its outcome) will affect the fate of act is > the matter of research and disscussion.> > Hope to see valuable, knowedlegable comments on > above .> WITH REGARDS> AMIT> > > > > > > > In @gro ups.com, "Suprakash Ghosh" > <suprakash.ghosh@ > wrote:> >> > Before arriving to a definite conclusion regarding Muhurat, we > need to> > finalize who is stronger...the destiny which is indicated by cuspal> > sublord or the time of doing an act.>

> > > This means,one who is denied of children as per 5th cusp, can get> > children selecting a good muhurat.> > > > This in turn makes all the knowledge of KP Astrology null and void.> > > > Or if both are true, then one not destined will never be able to > use the> > favorable muhurat despite his efforts.> > > > Comments from members please> > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > @gro ups.com > [@gro ups.com] On> > Behalf Of jayant giri> > Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:40

PM> > @gro ups.com> > Re: need of muhurat??> > > > Dear Mr Dubey> > Namaskar> > Your fate itself will decide the selection of> > muhurat.Selection of auspicious time will act like a> > balm in case any unpleasant occurrence happens.The> > pain or the disappointment will be considerably> > reduced.One will take a philosophical view of the> > event and in this way lessen the impact of> > disappointment.> > With regards> > Yours sincerely> > Jayant Giri> > --- dubeyamitkumar <dubeyamitkumar@ > wrote:> > > > > Respected group members> > > PLZ put some light on the> > > need of muhurat??? > >

> If desteny works always and as ksk wrote many times> > > that NO ONE CAN > > > DOGDE THE FATE,do you ppl think good muhurat can> > > change the mis > > > happening if it is bound to happen in near> > > future???Do you not think > > > if some one comes to know goodmuhurat and go> > > accordingly and achive > > > good result it is not due to good muhurat but due to> > > his fate???> > > I am seeking comments on> > > it and also > > > citation given by mentors.> > > > > > WITH REGARDS> > > > > > AMIT> > > > > > > > > > > > Jayant Giri> > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Go > to> > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools-08.html> > > > > > > > > >