regarding significance of cuspal sublord

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Respected group members

 

I have gone through some charts in which a single

planet takes the position of more than 6 house's cuspal sublord!!!! It

can be said that in such a cases ,a single planet decides the

posibility of more than half events in the life of native.I am eager

to know how you ppl take this kind of peculiarity in predicting the

native's life event.

Have any one gone with such a chart where a single

planet enjoyed the sublord position of all houses?????

WITH REGARDS

AMIT

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II Om Gurave Namah IIHari om , Friend,

Dear Amit

Sub lord acts like a seed and controller.

The event as a result of seed connection may fructify only when DBA allow and carry out order of seed( sub lord)

Transits trigger.

However out of 12 houses lording of six cusp by one planet is uncommon.

Even if Sublord sigify the event it may not happen if proper DBA does not come at right time.

I think data would have given more clarity for matter under contemplation.

with regards,

OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava------------------------ Oh Creator Of The Universe ! We meditate upon thy radiant power that illuminate our intellects, destroy our sins, and guide us in the right direction!

 

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dubeyamitkumar

Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:58 PM

regarding significance of cuspal sublord

 

 

Respected group membersI have gone through some charts in which a single planet takes the position of more than 6 house's cuspal sublord!!!! It can be said that in such a cases ,a single planet decides the posibility of more than half events in the life of native.I am eager to know how you ppl take this kind of peculiarity in predicting the native's life event.Have any one gone with such a chart where a single planet enjoyed the sublord position of all houses????? WITH REGARDSAMIT

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Dear Sri Amitji,

Yes as you said we can come accross that a single planet may

represent as sublord majority of houses, i could see in my practice

some times 3 planets rep. all 12 cusps, but it is not seen anywhere

till now that a single planet is rep. all 12 csls.

I am attaching a chart who is an indian but settled in US she is

having saturn as sublord of 6 cusps in the star of sun who is 12th

lord in 4th bhava for a virgo. hence all these 6 houses are

connected to 4th by sun and 12th house empty hence 12th also, here

becaz of 4 n 12 houses connection majority time she is having

hardships also. not very comfortable since childhood. The chart is

uploaded in files section as savithri.pdf herewith the dob 16.1.1961

tob 22.49 place: nallagutta, Hyderabad.

With Regards

OVN MURTHY, HYDERABAD

www.saibhavishyavani.com

 

, " dubeyamitkumar "

<dubeyamitkumar wrote:

>

> Respected group members

>

> I have gone through some charts in which a

single

> planet takes the position of more than 6 house's cuspal

sublord!!!! It

> can be said that in such a cases ,a single planet decides the

> posibility of more than half events in the life of native.I am

eager

> to know how you ppl take this kind of peculiarity in predicting

the

> native's life event.

> Have any one gone with such a chart where a

single

> planet enjoyed the sublord position of all houses?????

> WITH REGARDS

> AMIT

>

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Dear Friends,

 

1. If the sublords of the cups are the same, then these cusps are deemed to be connected. For example the same cuspal sublord of 5th & 7th cusps gives a strong tendency of a love marriage; 6th & 7th an indication of more than one marriage in the Four Step Theory book, page 38 and Msg#10688. In the uploaded Savithri's chart, the sublords of 6 cusps, 2,4,6,8,10,12 are the same Saturn, and so they are supposed to connected.

 

2. As usual this sublord will decide whether the matter governed by the relevant cusp is promised or not and the matter indicated by the planet is favorable or not in pointing the time of event as a DBA lord. The above same sublord Saturn(4,5,6) is in the star of Sun(4,12) and sub of Moon(4,11). This signification at 3 levels will decide the result of the relevant cusp and DBA lords as mentioned by Shri K.M. Subramaniam in his `last' article `Sub Lord Speaks LX', "Whether it is a planet or CUSPAL SUBLORD these are controlled by the relevant sublord & its signification only. As regards to a planet, the matter is seen through the star lord of that planet and the SUB LORD of that planet `decides' the result & how the matter is altered & enjoyed and suffered by the native. While we take the sublord of the CUSP (all know the SUB lord is a PLANET), we must be more careful, while dealing with the subject."

 

3. Please note that considering the starlord of the `cuspal sublord' is the `2nd' step of the Four Step Theory, `not' the `4th`step, which is misunderstood as if Guruji KSK has used the 4th step.

 

4. If the `same' cuspal sublord has no planet in its star, it will become a significator of the cusps for which it is a sublord. In Savithri's chart, Saturn has no planet in its star, and so it is also a significator of 2,4,6,8,10,12 houses.

 

5. Here is a female chart with the same sublord Saturn of `8' cusps, 1,3,4,5,6,10,11,12; Saturn(6,10,11) is in the star of Ma(9,1,8) and in its own sub Saturn; 08-11-1952, 16:32 PM (GMT-6:00), Chicago, IL, USA, 41N51, 87W39, New KPA 23:06:31, Asc Ar 23:26:07, by KPAstro 3.0. Please see the following link to check whether the above signification tallies with the type of business she is successfully running.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christie_Hefner

 

6. A chart with the same sublord of `7' cusp is Amitabh Bachchan (11-10-1942, 16:00PM, Allahabad, 25N25, 81E52, NKPA 22:58:05, Asc Aq 21:40:49, 9th is 'Badhaka'), with the `same' cuspal sublord Jupiter of cusps 1,3,4,5,7,10,11); Jupiter is in its own star Jupiter(5,11) and sub of Mars(7,2,9,10), and no planet other than Jupiter is in 5 and 11 is empty. In addition, the cuspal sublord of cusps 6 & 8 are also the same Mercury(7,5) in the star and sub of Mars(7,2,9,10), and no planet is in the star of Mercury, which becomes a significator of 6 & 8 houses. His life time fame even in the current dasa of Ketu, in the sub of Jupiter, problems of debt and health and safe and recovery from them can be seen in the above signification at 3 levels. Perhaps the `same' cuspal sublord Saturn of `7' cusps, 2,3,4,8,9,10,11 makes Oprah Winfrey crowned with success, and the same cuspal sublord Mercury of '7' cusps, 1,2,4,7,8,10,11 is conducive to 8 marriages for Elizabeth Taylor (TOB 02:17AM). The example chart in `Planets and Travel Abroad by M.S. Mehta, page 78', has the same cuspal sublord Mercury of 7 cusps, 1,3,5,6, ,8,9,11.

 

7. Prince Henry (Diana's son) has also the same sublord Saturn of the same '6' cusps, 2,4,6,8,10,12 like Savithri but the signification is different. Some charts with the `same' cuspal sublord of `6' cusps are Swamigal Avargal, King George V, Elvis Presley, Swami Jananananda, Barbara Cartland, Princes Eugenie, Al Gore, King George V, Joerg Haider, Grace Kelly, Elvis Presley, O.J. Simpson, Chart no. 107 & 111 in `How to Judge a Horoscope by B.V. Raman', Vol. 2, pages 228 & 233.

 

Regards,

 

tw , "OVN MURTHY" <ovnmurthy wrote:>> Dear Sri Amitji,> Yes as you said we can come accross that a single planet may > represent as sublord majority of houses, i could see in my practice > some times 3 planets rep. all 12 cusps, but it is not seen anywhere > till now that a single planet is rep. all 12 csls. > I am attaching a chart who is an indian but settled in US she is > having saturn as sublord of 6 cusps in the star of sun who is 12th > lord in 4th bhava for a virgo. hence all these 6 houses are > connected to 4th by sun and 12th house empty hence 12th also, here > becaz of 4 n 12 houses connection majority time she is having > hardships also. not very comfortable since childhood. The chart is > uploaded in files section as savithri.pdf herewith the dob 16.1.1961 > tob 22.49 place: nallagutta, Hyderabad.> With Regards> OVN MURTHY, HYDERABAD> www.saibhavishyavani.com> > , "dubeyamitkumar" > dubeyamitkumar@ wrote:> >> > Respected group members> > > > I have gone through some charts in which a > single > > planet takes the position of more than 6 house's cuspal > sublord!!!! It > > can be said that in such a cases ,a single planet decides the > > posibility of more than half events in the life of native.I am > eager > > to know how you ppl take this kind of peculiarity in predicting > the > > native's life event.> > Have any one gone with such a chart where a > single > > planet enjoyed the sublord position of all houses????? > > WITH REGARDS> > AMIT> >>

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Respected SIR it is really a wonderful mail and it is giveing knowledge to so many in fact i am very much surprised to notice fo one chart ( my daughter in law ) she didnt know the exact time of her birth long back sri Raichur ji fixed her time of birth by her past events . Resently i had a soft wear cd with it i made her horescope DOB 24 04 74 AT OR NEAR PORTSMOUTH UK TOB 11 36 AM HER LAGNA CAME AS 3 20 30 MER STAR VEN SUB ANDJUP SUB SUB LIKE THAT ALL HER CUSPAL SUB LORDS ARE SAME AND ONE VENUS ONLY

HER 8TH SUB KETU AND 10TH SUB SUN I AM VERY FORTUNATE TO READ YOUR ARTICAL I AM IN A DAILAMA WHY IT IS LIKE THAT EARLIER . IN HER LIFE SHE MARIED TWICE STOP HER STUDIES IN 90 AND AGAIN STARTED FROM 2002 THAT TO MEDICINE UNTILL LAST YEAR SHR STUDIES HORPED THIS YEAR SHE IS GETTING AWARDS FOR HER WORK STILL I HAD A DOUBT VENUS HER 11TH LORD BHADHKA IN ALL CUSPS WE HAVE TO STUDY IT ANY ONE INTRESTED IN THIS

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Dear Sri TW Sir,

 

I am the astrologer from hyderabad given this sample chart of mrs.

savithri, hyd. now she is in US for a long time, to Sri Amit's

question.

 

Basing on the above subject matter you have given a wonderful

explanation more than a printed book in your email. You have given

not only one examples but lots of examples. While reading your write

up on the csls and their significance at star level and sub level.

when there are no planets in the cuspal sublord the primary

significations. all these points are very vital for judging a

horoscope thr DBAs.

Here this native is a CPA and settled in US and having twins (both

are male) but not yet obtained citizenship and own house. here the

Saturn is connected to negative house also i.e. 4,8 n 12 also.

 

With Regards

OVN MURTHY, M.COM.FCS.

COMPANY SECRETARY & GEN. MANAGER (FIN)

NIZAM SUGARS LTD. BASHEERBAGH, HYDERABAD 4. AP INDIA.

www.saibhavishyavani.com mob. 94417-78427

 

 

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Dear Friends,

>

>

>

> 1. If the sublords of the cups are the same, then these cusps are

deemed

> to be connected. For example the same cuspal sublord of 5th & 7th

cusps

> gives a strong tendency of a love marriage; 6th & 7th an

indication of

> more than one marriage in the Four Step Theory book, page 38 and

> Msg#10688. In the uploaded Savithri's chart, the sublords of 6

> cusps, 2,4,6,8,10,12 are the same Saturn, and so they are supposed

to

> connected.

>

>

>

> 2. As usual this sublord will decide whether the matter governed

by the

> relevant cusp is promised or not and the matter indicated by the

planet

> is favorable or not in pointing the time of event as a DBA lord.

The

> above same sublord Saturn(4,5,6) is in the star of Sun(4,12) and

sub of

> Moon(4,11). This signification at 3 levels will decide the result

of the

> relevant cusp and DBA lords as mentioned by Shri K.M. Subramaniam

in his

> `last' article `Sub Lord Speaks LX', " Whether it is a

> planet or CUSPAL SUBLORD these are controlled by the relevant

sublord &

> its signification only. As regards to a planet, the matter is seen

> through the star lord of that planet and the SUB LORD of that

planet

> `decides' the result & how the matter is altered & enjoyed and

> suffered by the native. While we take the sublord of the CUSP (all

know

> the SUB lord is a PLANET), we must be more careful, while dealing

with

> the subject. "

>

>

>

> 3. Please note that considering the starlord of the `cuspal

> sublord' is the `2nd' step of the Four Step Theory,

> `not' the `4th`step, which is misunderstood as if Guruji

> KSK has used the 4th step.

>

>

>

> 4. If the `same' cuspal sublord has no planet in its star, it

> will become a significator of the cusps for which it is a sublord.

In

> Savithri's chart, Saturn has no planet in its star, and so it is

> also a significator of 2,4,6,8,10,12 houses.

>

>

>

> 5. Here is a female chart with the same sublord Saturn of `8'

> cusps, 1,3,4,5,6,10,11,12; Saturn(6,10,11) is in the star of Ma

(9,1,8)

> and in its own sub Saturn; 08-11-1952, 16:32 PM (GMT-6:00),

Chicago, IL,

> USA, 41N51, 87W39, New KPA 23:06:31, Asc Ar 23:26:07, by KPAstro

3.0.

> Please see the following link to check whether the above

signification

> tallies with the type of business she is successfully running.

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christie_Hefner

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christie_Hefner>

>

>

>

> 6. A chart with the same sublord of `7' cusp is Amitabh Bachchan

> (11-10-1942, 16:00PM, Allahabad, 25N25, 81E52, NKPA 22:58:05, Asc

Aq

> 21:40:49, 9th is 'Badhaka'), with the `same' cuspal sublord

> Jupiter of cusps 1,3,4,5,7,10,11); Jupiter is in its own star

> Jupiter(5,11) and sub of Mars(7,2,9,10), and no planet other than

> Jupiter is in 5 and 11 is empty. In addition, the cuspal sublord of

> cusps 6 & 8 are also the same Mercury(7,5) in the star and sub of

> Mars(7,2,9,10), and no planet is in the star of Mercury, which

becomes a

> significator of 6 & 8 houses. His life time fame even in the

current

> dasa of Ketu, in the sub of Jupiter, problems of debt and health

and

> safe and recovery from them can be seen in the above

signification at 3

> levels. Perhaps the `same' cuspal sublord Saturn of `7'

> cusps, 2,3,4,8,9,10,11 makes Oprah Winfrey crowned with success,

and the

> same cuspal sublord Mercury of '7' cusps, 1,2,4,7,8,10,11 is

conducive

> to 8 marriages for Elizabeth Taylor (TOB 02:17AM). The example

chart in

> `Planets and Travel Abroad by M.S. Mehta, page 78', has the same

> cuspal sublord Mercury of 7 cusps, 1,3,5,6, ,8,9,11.

>

>

>

> 7. Prince Henry (Diana's son) has also the same sublord Saturn of

> the same '6' cusps, 2,4,6,8,10,12 like Savithri but the

signification is

> different. Some charts with the `same' cuspal sublord of

> `6' cusps are Swamigal Avargal, King George V, Elvis Presley,

> Swami Jananananda, Barbara Cartland, Princes Eugenie, Al Gore, King

> George V, Joerg Haider, Grace Kelly, Elvis Presley, O.J. Simpson,

Chart

> no. 107 & 111 in `How to Judge a Horoscope by B.V. Raman', Vol.

> 2, pages 228 & 233.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

> tw

>

> , " OVN MURTHY " <ovnmurthy@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sri Amitji,

> > Yes as you said we can come accross that a single planet may

> > represent as sublord majority of houses, i could see in my

practice

> > some times 3 planets rep. all 12 cusps, but it is not seen

anywhere

> > till now that a single planet is rep. all 12 csls.

> > I am attaching a chart who is an indian but settled in US she is

> > having saturn as sublord of 6 cusps in the star of sun who is

12th

> > lord in 4th bhava for a virgo. hence all these 6 houses are

> > connected to 4th by sun and 12th house empty hence 12th also,

here

> > becaz of 4 n 12 houses connection majority time she is having

> > hardships also. not very comfortable since childhood. The chart

is

> > uploaded in files section as savithri.pdf herewith the dob

16.1.1961

> > tob 22.49 place: nallagutta, Hyderabad.

> > With Regards

> > OVN MURTHY, HYDERABAD

> > www.saibhavishyavani.com