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Dear Tin Win ji, A brilliant piece of Study note you have prepared. My personal thanks to you and to this group. Regards, Andrewtw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear All,A study note on the Four Step Theory is uploaded in the file section.Regards,twDr. Andrew DuttaFaculty Member The ICFAI

Business School,Survey Number 156/157,Dontanapally Village, Shankerpally Mandal,R.R. District. Andhra Pradesh 501 203. IndiaTelephone (Direct): 0-0-92470 21036Cell: 0-0-98666 20483 Vice President,KP Astrologers' Forum, India

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Dear Mr. Tin Win ji Hope you are fine in US. It is difficult to locate these files from the file section, since it appears that they are located under some folder or so. Can you just guide that under which folder these files uploaded by you are located. Alternatively, will it be possible for you to send me the same. Regards MK Viswanathtw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear All,A study note on

the Four Step Theory is uploaded in the file section.Regards,tw

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dear tinwin ji, many many many many thanks for beautifully presenting 4 step. regards hs nagitw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear All,A study note on the Four Step Theory is uploaded in the file section.Regards,tw

 

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dear tinwin ji, would you please put kp theory in your style to the forum ? specially elimination of planets and selecting dba for an event. many many kp lovers will be benefitted by your kind services. regards hs nagitw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear All,A study note on the Four Step Theory is uploaded in the file section.Regards,tw

 

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Dear Nagi ji, Andrew ji, Goswami ji, Sheetal ji,

 

Thank you all for your kind words,

 

Best regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

 

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> dear tinwin ji,

> many many many many thanks for beautifully presenting 4 step.

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> A study note on the Four Step Theory is uploaded in the file

section.

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> Regards,

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> tw

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dear members,

here are comments on study notes on 4 step theory by mr.tw853

comments on 5.1

the houses primarily signified in steps 2 and 4 are the KP grade A significators only.

In KP the grade C significators are planets in the star of lord of the houses,which is

not the case here.

comments on II.3.1.conjunction with cuspThe rules of 4 step theory are framed carefully by me after many years of research.

in almost all such cases where the planet is behind the the cusp and within the orb

it gives mainly results of next houses.this does not mean that it only becomes the significator

of the next house but it remains as the week significator of the house it resides.Even as KP theory

any planet (residing in 6th house for example) can become strong significator of the 5th or 12th

house if ats star lord is posited in those house.In such cases also planet becomes significator of

the two opposite houses.One can find numerous examples in KP readers.Does KP theory becomes

a messed up theory because of this?

comments on 12

it is already mentioned in above comment that we can get opposite houses simultaneosly.

the exact results judgement is depends on the query.

comments on 13

if rahu/ketu are conjoined with another planet same rule applies.it is better to read book than

the guide provided by mr.tw.or otherwise confusions will be raised more.the points regarding

rahu/ketu are clearly mentioned in book.this message does not mean to promote my book sales

which also to be noted.

commets on 15.

as for as 4step theory is concerned 7th aspect of the primary significators are taken into considearation

and not left to the preference of the astrologer as presumed by the author of this study note.

comments on 17

reader can view message 14976.you can find that nowhere it is mentioned that the rahu/ketu

conjunction with the cusp within the orb of 3-20 is rare.

comments on 18

the rules had to be GENERAL for all the cases without any discrimination.it may not work for

each case and every event.there are always exceptions to the rules.but if the predictions based on

these concrete rules are correct to the tune of 75%to 80%and above it should be appreciated.

next comments in due course.

i again advise members to taste this pudding of 4 step theory.you will not get the proof untill you eat it

regards

-sunil gondhalekar

On 10/18/07, andrew dutta <andrewinfinitum wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Tin Win ji,

A brilliant piece of Study note you have prepared. My personal thanks to you and to this group.

 

Regards,

 

Andrewtw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

 

Dear All,A study note on the Four Step Theory is uploaded in the file section.Regards,tw

 

Dr. Andrew Dutta

Faculty Member

 

The ICFAI Business School,

Survey Number 156/157,

Dontanapally Village, Shankerpally Mandal,

R.R. District. Andhra Pradesh 501 203. India

Telephone (Direct): 0-0-92470 21036

Cell: 0-0-98666 20483

 

Vice President,

KP Astrologers' Forum, India

 

 

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Dear All,

My comments are given below.

Regards,

tw

 

, "sunil gondhalekar" <sunilalaka wrote:>> dear members,> here are comments on study notes on 4 step theory by mr.tw853

> *comments on 5.1*> the houses primarily signified in steps 2 and 4 are the KP grade A> significators only.> In KP the grade C significators are planets in the star of lord of the> houses,which is > not the case here.

tw: In the example chart 1 of the study note, Venus is in the star of Sun in 7 & l/o 1st house, which is the KP grade C significator of Venus. Since the 1st house is empty and no planet is the KP grade A or B significator of this house, the grade C significator becomes the strong (primary) significator of 1st house in the steps 2 & 4 of the main planet Venus as shown in the attached 4 step significators. In the example chart 2 of the study note, Moon is in the star of Sun in 4 & l/o 6 th house, which is the KP grade C significator of Moon. Since the 6tht house is empty and no planet is the KP grade A or B significator of this house, the grade C significator becomes the strong (primary) significator of 6ht house in the steps 2 & 4 of the main planet Moon as shown in the attached 4 step significators. The 4 step primary significators (based on the star-lord and star position) are helpful, as mentioned by someone, in choosing the KP strong significators.

*comments on II.3.1.conjunction with cusp> *The rules of 4 step theory are framed carefully by me after many years of> research.> in almost all such cases where the planet is behind the the cusp and within> the orb > it gives mainly results of next houses.this does not mean that it only> becomes the significator > of the next house but it remains as the week significator of the house it > resides.Even as KP theory > any planet (residing in 6th house for example) can become strong > significator of the 5th or 12th > house if ats star lord is posited in those house.In such cases also planet > becomes significator of > the two opposite houses.One can find numerous examples in KP readers.Does KP > theory becomes > a messed up theory because of this?

tw: It can be repeated from the study note that, in the example chart 1, in the case of `Ven conj 6' before the cusp, the physically occupied 5th house does not remain as a weak (secondary) significator when Venus is a primary significator by being the star-lord of Mars in the 2nd step and it becomes the primary significators of `both' 5 and 6 houses. In KP the significators are generally judged by A-E grades and the decider sub-lord, making possible to predict marriage and divorce or sickness and cure at the same time depending on the sub periods. It is not a a messed up theory of applying the revised or changed KP rules in one's own way.

> *comments on 12*> it is already mentioned in above comment that we can get opposite houses> simultaneosly. > the exact results judgement is depends on the query.

tw: The 4 step primary significators as per the set rules may be the same irrespective of whatever the query may be.

> *comments on 13*> if rahu/ketu are conjoined with another planet same rule applies.it is > better to read book than > the guide provided by mr.tw.or otherwise confusions will be raised> more.thepoints regarding > rahu/ketu are clearly mentioned in book.this message does not mean to> promote my book sales > which also to be noted.

tw: It is not clear what is the same rule. I've studied the 4 step book and the notes as mentioned in Msg#13244 & 13387. As far as my reading goes in this regard of Rahu/Ketu rules, no rule is left in the book. All cards have been put on the table in a straightforward, comprehensive and book free manner to assist the 4 step lovers in complete and easy understanding of this theory. If any or more point(s) are confusing and missing in the study note, it's highly appreciated to be explained for the benefit of the 4 step lovers, in stead of saying again to read the book.

> *commets on 15.*> as for as 4step theory is concerned 7th aspect of the primary significators > are taken into considearation > and not left to the preference of the astrologer as presumed by the author> of this study note.

tw: This is not a presumption, and the fact is that a prominent practitioner of this this method has not taken the 7th aspect into consideration, giving his view clearly and repeatedly.

> *comments on 17*> reader can view message 14976.you can find that nowhere it is mentioned that> the rahu/ketu > conjunction with the cusp within the orb of 3-20 is rare.

tw: If "similar case will not be found in studies..." in the following write-up of Msg#14976 does not mean "similar case is rare.", I'm sorry for my poor English understanding.

"the query was raised for ketu's aspect.the reply is: ketu has appeared as sublord of planet.there are no planets in star of ketu and ketu is on 1st cusp.as per the rules given in theory it aspects 7th cusp.in that particular case even this factor is not taken in considaration,then also marriage is indicated by the signification of 11th house.readers must be knowing that similar case will not be found in studies except twin birth,every case is unique."

> *comments on 18*> the rules had to be GENERAL for all the cases without any > discrimination.itmay not work for> each case and every event.there are always exceptions to the rules.but if > the predictions based on > these concrete rules are correct to the tune of 75%to 80%and above it should> be appreciated.

tw: If the so easy rules set like in mathematical equations are working to the tune of 75%to 80%, all of us should be very grateful to the inventor Mr. Sunil ji. However, the post mortem study of around 60 events of the 14 charts from the 4 diversified sources of birth data does not indicate such a near tune in respect of the complete chain of the DBA or the transit agreeing with the DBA..

> next comments in due course.> i again advise members to taste this pudding of 4 step theory.you will not> get the proof untill you eat it

 

tw: I'm looking forward to the next comments to come for the more clear understanding of this theory for the 4 step lovers while checking some more around 40 events of 3 or 4 AA charts with maximum events from the study on the KP Ayanamsa to taste the pudding of minimum standard 100 events.

> regards> -sunil gondhalekar> > On 10/18/07, andrew dutta andrewinfinitum wrote:> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > A brilliant piece of Study note you have prepared. My personal thanks to> > you and to this group.> >> > Regards,> >> > Andrew> >> > *tw853 tw853* wrote:> >> > Dear All,> >> > A study note on the Four Step Theory is uploaded in the file section.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> >> >> >> >> >> > *Dr. Andrew Dutta*> > Faculty Member> >> > The ICFAI Business School,> > Survey Number 156/157,> > Dontanapally Village, Shankerpally Mandal,> > R.R. District. Andhra Pradesh 501 203. India> > Telephone (Direct): 0-0-92470 21036> > Cell: 0-0-98666 20483> >> > Vice President,> > KP Astrologers' Forum, India> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >>

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dear tinwinji,

i am also interested.pl.put your theory of elimination and section of dba

thanks

-sunil gondhalekar

On 10/19/07, hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear tinwin ji,

would you please put kp theory in your style to the forum ? specially elimination of planets and selecting dba for an event.

many many kp lovers will be benefitted by your kind services.

regards

hs nagitw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

 

Dear All,A study note on the Four Step Theory is uploaded in the file section.Regards,tw

 

 

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