love life - - 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (1)- - BOOK REVIEW

September 17, 2007

BOOK REVIEW FROM THE KP POINT OF VIEW

" Advance Theory of KP- FOUR STEP THEORY by Sunil Gondhalekar "

PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS

1. Except taking the KP significators of order A and C (when the

relevant houses are empty) and order B and D (when the relevant

houses are empty) for a planet with no planet in its star and in its

own star as primary significators, and applying the same rules to

Rahu/Ketu along with the signification of the planets conjoined and

aspected within the 3d:20m orb, its star-lord and its sign-lord, the

KP principles have been revised, changed and messed up in the Four

Step Book.

2. The worst revision is changing the role of the Sub-lord from a

significator in KP to a significator in the Four Step. Because the

Sub-lord is the corner stone of KP and it is used to say that KP is

the Sub theory, nothing else. Guruji KSK has crowed simultaneously

in the KP Reader III, V and VI that the discovery of the sub-lord

with such deciding role made him crowned. In KP this Sub-lord is

crucial in deciding whether a matter governed by the house or

indicated by the planet is beneficial or not and selecting the

fruitful significators.

3. It is not correct that in the prevalent KP practices it is

normally restricted only to the first 2 steps since it is not KP

without the step 3 of the Sub-lord. Taking only 2 steps is like

going back to the Satayacharya era of about 2000 years ago.

4. The very weak KP significators of order E have been upgraded to

the rank of the primary significators mainly by mere conjunction and

aspect within 3.33 deg. orb without taking proper consideration of

whether the relevant house is empty, whether there is any planet in

the star of the relevant planet, whether the E significator is

aspected by the A to D rank significators or not, duplication and

confusion of significators caused by applying 7th (opposite) aspect,

the worst thing of the inclusion of the Ket's 7th aspect, which is

also against the KP principles.

5. Shri Raichur has correctly cautioned not to apply the 7th

opposite aspect. When a planet aspects a cusp by the opposite

aspect, it is conjunct with the cusp of the house where this planet

resides. By taking the opposite aspect, this planet has to signify

both opposite houses simultaneously. In the case of Rahu/Ketu, Rahu

or Ketu has to signify both opposite houses simultaneously, which is

misleading.

6. It is not correct that a planet near the cusp does not signify

the next house as per KP rules because such signification has been

experienced by Guruji KSK (KP Reader IV, page 108), KP and also

Vedic and Western astrologers like K. Subramanium, T. Rajendra Kumar

C.V. Tyagaraja Iyer, Shri Raichur, Kanak, James Braha, and Carl

Woebcke and the 3.33 deg, orb has been incorporated in the purely KP

SWs of Shri Raichur and KPAstro.

RULING PLANEST

7. It is said that the Ruling Planets may change depending on the

time, space, and astrologer and cannot be always useful in selecting

the significators, and they are not used in the Four Step Theory for

this purpose. However, the revised KP RPs have been used to check or

correct the sub-lord of the relevant cusp in the Natal chart as if

there is some change in the birth time and they are also used to

choose the DBA in an example of the book.

RETROGRESSION

8. The retrogression is said not working in the horary chart as per

Guruji's KSK guidance. It is a bolder statement than Dr. Kar's

retrograde theory. The retrogression has been used only in checking

the transits of DBA lords for the event to take place.

TRANSIT

9. The Four Step way of checking the star-lord of the fast moving

dasa lord and the sub-lord of the slow moving dasa lord whether they

are the required primary significators in only the first 2 steps and

not in retrograde for fructification of an event is entirely

different from KP.

HOUSE GROUPING

10. More houses are added to the KP house grouping giving more

chance for an event to take place and less chance for the denial.

OBSERVATION

11. The Four Step Theory of the revised, changed and messed up KP

principles can not be called as the Advance KP and the Guruji KSK's

KP as the traditional KP because there is only and the only one KP,

which is the brand name of Guruji KSK. There are other versions of

KP like the Cuspal Interlink Theory, KB (of Baskaran) and Dr. Kar's

Theory without misusing the brand name of KP.

12. Guruji KSK has kept an open mind on the new theories by saying

that astrology is not a monopoly, and encouraged the further

research by saying,

" My friends, we have come up to this- you should continue the

research and you may reach to further truth " .

APOLOGY

12. My apology if it unintentionally hurts any body even through my

presentation is the issue related and not personal one.

, " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear hardepji,

> thanks for the kind words.

> i have never told that 4 step theory gives 100% results.

> even the predictios given by me are nearest to the answers.this

fact is also

> i have

> openly accepted and declared to the students.

> now about the surat seminar,this is arraged by surat study group.

> to answer is not my problem nor it is an excuse but main problem

is that

> my conclusion will not be accepted by some few members that's why

i have

> decided

> to be silent.but after my surat visit i will post my conclusions

for the

> benefits of members

> who really wants to study 4 step theory and the simplicity of

theory.

> pl.also remember that 4 step theory is not mine,it is from KSK

principles.

> i have already given my opinion on 2 cases.

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

> On 9/15/07, hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote:

> >

> > dear sunil ji,

> > either except that 4 styep theory is not full preeof, or answer

these

> > questions which every student of astrology will try to learn.

> > there is a advertisement you are conducting one day work shop in

surat. if

> > you cant clear these dobts what will be you do there.

> > i also want answers.

> > please dont take it personally. i have respect for you, but you

must have

> > courage to come out with answers,

> > regards

> > hs nagi

> >

> > *tw853 <tw853* wrote:

> >

> > Dear sunil gondhalekar,

> >

> > It's a pity that you're giving just an excuse in stead of

> > practically sharing your 4 step experience by answering my

practical

> > questions and examples.

> >

> > Since you're are not answering any question, your 4 Step Theory

is

> > taken and will be taken as written in your 4 Step Book, as

presented

> > in my practical examples.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > <%

40>, " sunil

> > gondhalekar "

> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear tw853,

> > > i have joined this forum to share my experience in 4 step

theory.

> > > looking at the mail matters it seems that i will have to prove

the

> > theory

> > > before forum.i dont need it to prove before forum as it is

proved

> > since

> > > 10-12 yrs or more.

> > > so i decided to become silent member of this group.

> > > thanks

> > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > >

> > > On 9/12/07, Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tw853

> > > > The 7th aspect cannot be taken into consideration, as the

same

> > planet

> > > > cannot signify opposite houses, indicating opp matters.

> > > >

> > > > *tw853 <tw853@>* wrote:

> > > >

> > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (1)

> > > >

> > > > 1. CHART DATA

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar Basu, 21-07-1986, 07:15 AM, Kolkata, 22N32, 88E21,

New

> > KPA

> > > > 23-34-45, Asc Le 02-42-34, Sun Dasa Bal 4Y-9M-29D.

> > > >

> > > > 2. 4 STEP PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS

> > > >

> > > > Empty houses: 2, 6, 8, 10, 11

> > > >

> > > > Plts with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Me, Ra

> > > >

> > > > Plts in own stars (*): Ju, Ve, Sa

> > > >

> > > > Su Conj 12

> > > > Ju Conj 8

> > > > Ra Conj 9

> > > > Ke Conj 3

> > > >

> > > > Su Aspt 6

> > > > Ra Aspt 3

> > > > Ke Aspt 9

> > > >

> > > > Plt Ke: Conj 3

> > > > Stl of Ke is Ma: 5

> > > > Sbl of Ke is Me+: 12-11

> > > > Stl of Me is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > >

> > > > Plt Ve*: 1-10

> > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > Sbl of Ve is Mo+: 5

> > > > Stl of Mo is Su: 12-2; Asp 6; Conj 12

> > > >

> > > > Plt Su: Conj 12

> > > > Stl of Su is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > Sbl of Su is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > Stl of Sa is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > >

> > > > Plt Mo+: 5

> > > > Stl of Mo is Su: 12-2; Asp 6; Conj 12

> > > > Sbl of Mo is Ra+: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp 3; Cnj 9

> > > > Stl of Ra is Ke: 3; Sgl Ve(1, 10); Stl Ma(5); Asp 9; Conj 3

> > > >

> > > > Planet Ma:

> > > > Stl of Ma is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > Sbl of Ma is Ju*: 7; Conj 8

> > > > Stl of Ju is Ju*: 7; Cnj 8

> > > >

> > > > Plt Ra+: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp 3; Conj 9

> > > > Stl of Ra is Ke: 3; Sgl Ve(1-10); Stl Ma(5); Asp 9; Conj 3

> > > > Sbl of Ra is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10

> > > >

> > > > Plt Ju*: 7; Conj 8

> > > > Stl of Ju is Ju*: 7; Conj 8

> > > > Sbl of Ju is Su: Conj 12

> > > > Stl of Su is Sa*: 4; 6-8

> > > >

> > > > Plt Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > Stl of Sa is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > Sbl of Sa is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10

> > > >

> > > > Plt Me+: 12-11

> > > > Stl of Me is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > Sbl of Me is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10

> > > >

> > > > 3. 7TH CUSP SUBLORD

> > > >

> > > > a)It is Ve signyfing 5-2 and so marraige is promised.

> > > >

> > > > b)RPs, 10-09-2007, 08:47:18 AM, 39N05, 77E09 (GMT-05:00)

> > > >

> > > > Lagna Lord = Me

> > > > Mo's Stl = Ke

> > > > Mo's Sgl = Su

> > > > Day Lord = Mo

> > > >

> > > > c) Ve is not in the RPs and so Ke in the RPs is taken as 7th

cusp

> > > > sbl. Marriage is promised as Ke signifies 5-11-8.

> > > >

> > > > 4. CURRENT RUNNING DASA

> > > >

> > > > a) The current running dasa is Ma (20-05-2001 to 20-05-2008.

> > > > Marriage is possible as Ma signifies 7-8.

> > > >

> > > > b)The previous Bhukti is Ve, ie. Ma-Ve DB (12-04-2006 to 12-

06-

> > 2007.

> > > > Bhukti lord Ve signifie 5-2 and so it it is capable of

marriage.

> > > >

> > > > c) The chain signification of 2-7-11 & 5-8 would be complete

> > during

> > > > the DBA of Ma-Ve-Ke (18-05-2007 to 12-06-2007) because the

> > missing

> > > > link of 11 is signified by the Antara lord Ke.

> > > >

> > > > 5. TRANSIT

> > > >

> > > > The transit had agreed with the DBA during the period of

June 10-

> > 12,

> > > > 2007 while Ma was transiting in Me star, Ve in Sa star and

Ke in

> > the

> > > > sub of Mo, which signify marriage related houses in the

first 2

> > > > steps and were not in retrograde.

> > > >

> > > > 6. RESULT

> > > >

> > > > Nothing happened in respect of marriage.

> > > >

> > > > 7. FUTURE PROSPECT

> > > >

> > > > Ma-Su DB (12-06-2007 to 18-10-2007) is capable of marriage by

> > > > signifying 8.

> > > >

> > > > Ma-Mo DB (19-10-2007 to 20-05-2008) is capable of marriage by

> > > > signifying 2,5.

> > > >

> > > > Ra (Maha) Dasa (21-05-2008 to 20-05-2026) will deny marriage

> > because

> > > > it signifies only 1-10 in the 3rd and 4 th step.

> > > >

> > > > P.S.

> > > >

> > > > As per Shri Kuppu Ganapathi's matching for marriage as per KP

> > > > principles of Ghaskar Basu and the Girl, 17-06-1986, 10:15

PM,

> > > > Kolkata, it is not recommendable because the crierion 10

(whether

> > > > the period lords now operating in both charts indicate

> > desirability

> > > > of matching for marriage)is only 41.67%, although the overall

> > > > matching score is 70.83%.

> > > >

> > > > <%

40><%

> > 40>, bhaskar

> > > > basu <bsbhskr@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > hi,prasadgoud thanks for ur reply.but u told me to change

my

> > > > attitude......i didn't understand that........in what sense

did u

> > > > tell me to change my attitude????i mean which attitude

should i

> > > > change???plzzz make me clear abt this......thanking u

> > > > >

> > > > > prasadgoud77 <prasadgoud77@>

> > > > wrote: -

> > > > > -- In <%

40><%

> > 40>,

> > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair

> > > > > <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:

> > > > > This chart indicates LOve failures .Its life time.I m

> > > > requesting u

> > > > > to deviate u r self from Love .Try to concentrate on u r

career

> > > > > life.There is no way getting succeed in u r love in u r

life

> > > > time.

> > > > > U have to change u r attitude.i know its difficult,but its

part

> > > > of life.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > varaprasad

> > > > > > Dear Sir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > black spot on the nose indicates person is but cunning,

> > > > adjusts

> > > > > according to situation, may attempt to tell even lies to

come

> > out

> > > > when

> > > > > cornered etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > these are some of the analysis of this feature.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > MK viswanath

> > > > > >

> > > > > > bsbhskr <bsbhskr@> wrote:

> > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > my DOB is 21.7.1986,POB is calcutta and TOB is

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> > > > > > distressed and sad.i'm in love with a girl now who is

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> > > > beautiful

> > > > > > with a fair complexion and she has a black spot in her

> > nose.so

> > > > i want

> > > > > > to know can any one help me to tell that whether she will

> > > > accept my

> > > > > > love if i propose to her???plzzzzzzz help me.i dont want

to

> > get

> > > > > > rejected again.i consulted many astrologers who told that

> > love

> > > > will

> > > > > > come from 30.4.06 to 30.6.07 during this time but still

> > nothing

> > > > had

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September 18, 2007

dear tinwin ji, congratulations for this book review. your presentation is very impressive. would you mind to give presentation of sh ksk's kp and will you please explain it for the benefit of new entrants and true aspirants to learn kp? regards hs nagitw853 <tw853 wrote: BOOK REVIEW FROM THE KP POINT OF VIEW"Advance Theory of KP- FOUR STEP THEORY by Sunil Gondhalekar"PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS1. Except taking the KP significators of order A and C (when the

relevant houses are empty) and order B and D (when the relevant houses are empty) for a planet with no planet in its star and in its own star as primary significators, and applying the same rules to Rahu/Ketu along with the signification of the planets conjoined and aspected within the 3d:20m orb, its star-lord and its sign-lord, the KP principles have been revised, changed and messed up in the Four Step Book. 2. The worst revision is changing the role of the Sub-lord from a significator in KP to a significator in the Four Step. Because the Sub-lord is the corner stone of KP and it is used to say that KP is the Sub theory, nothing else. Guruji KSK has crowed simultaneously in the KP Reader III, V and VI that the discovery of the sub-lord with such deciding role made him crowned. In KP this Sub-lord is crucial in deciding whether a matter governed by the house or indicated by the planet is beneficial or not and

selecting the fruitful significators.3. It is not correct that in the prevalent KP practices it is normally restricted only to the first 2 steps since it is not KP without the step 3 of the Sub-lord. Taking only 2 steps is like going back to the Satayacharya era of about 2000 years ago.4. The very weak KP significators of order E have been upgraded to the rank of the primary significators mainly by mere conjunction and aspect within 3.33 deg. orb without taking proper consideration of whether the relevant house is empty, whether there is any planet in the star of the relevant planet, whether the E significator is aspected by the A to D rank significators or not, duplication and confusion of significators caused by applying 7th (opposite) aspect, the worst thing of the inclusion of the Ket's 7th aspect, which is also against the KP principles.5. Shri Raichur has correctly cautioned not to apply the 7th

opposite aspect. When a planet aspects a cusp by the opposite aspect, it is conjunct with the cusp of the house where this planet resides. By taking the opposite aspect, this planet has to signify both opposite houses simultaneously. In the case of Rahu/Ketu, Rahu or Ketu has to signify both opposite houses simultaneously, which is misleading.6. It is not correct that a planet near the cusp does not signify the next house as per KP rules because such signification has been experienced by Guruji KSK (KP Reader IV, page 108), KP and also Vedic and Western astrologers like K. Subramanium, T. Rajendra Kumar C.V. Tyagaraja Iyer, Shri Raichur, Kanak, James Braha, and Carl Woebcke and the 3.33 deg, orb has been incorporated in the purely KP SWs of Shri Raichur and KPAstro.RULING PLANEST7. It is said that the Ruling Planets may change depending on the time, space, and astrologer and cannot be always useful

in selecting the significators, and they are not used in the Four Step Theory for this purpose. However, the revised KP RPs have been used to check or correct the sub-lord of the relevant cusp in the Natal chart as if there is some change in the birth time and they are also used to choose the DBA in an example of the book. RETROGRESSION8. The retrogression is said not working in the horary chart as per Guruji's KSK guidance. It is a bolder statement than Dr. Kar's retrograde theory. The retrogression has been used only in checking the transits of DBA lords for the event to take place.TRANSIT9. The Four Step way of checking the star-lord of the fast moving dasa lord and the sub-lord of the slow moving dasa lord whether they are the required primary significators in only the first 2 steps and not in retrograde for fructification of an event is entirely different from KP.HOUSE

GROUPING10. More houses are added to the KP house grouping giving more chance for an event to take place and less chance for the denial.OBSERVATION11. The Four Step Theory of the revised, changed and messed up KP principles can not be called as the Advance KP and the Guruji KSK's KP as the traditional KP because there is only and the only one KP, which is the brand name of Guruji KSK. There are other versions of KP like the Cuspal Interlink Theory, KB (of Baskaran) and Dr. Kar's Theory without misusing the brand name of KP. 12. Guruji KSK has kept an open mind on the new theories by saying that astrology is not a monopoly, and encouraged the further research by saying,"My friends, we have come up to this- you should continue the research and you may reach to further truth". APOLOGY12. My apology if it unintentionally hurts any body even through my presentation is the issue

related and not personal one. , "sunil gondhalekar" <sunilalaka wrote:>> dear hardepji,> thanks for the kind words.> i have never told that 4 step theory gives 100% results.> even the predictios given by me are nearest to the answers.this fact is also> i have> openly accepted and declared to the students.> now about the surat seminar,this is arraged by surat study group.> to answer is not my problem nor it is an excuse but main problem is that> my conclusion will not be accepted by some few members that's why i have> decided> to be silent.but after my surat visit i will post my conclusions for the> benefits of members> who really wants to study 4 step theory and the simplicity of theory.> pl.also remember that 4 step theory is not

mine,it is from KSK principles.> i have already given my opinion on 2 cases.> -sunil gondhalekar> > > On 9/15/07, hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote:> >> > dear sunil ji,> > either except that 4 styep theory is not full preeof, or answer these> > questions which every student of astrology will try to learn.> > there is a advertisement you are conducting one day work shop in surat. if> > you cant clear these dobts what will be you do there.> > i also want answers.> > please dont take it personally. i have respect for you, but you must have> > courage to come out with answers,> > regards> > hs nagi> >> > *tw853 <tw853* wrote:> >> > Dear sunil gondhalekar,> >> > It's a pity that you're giving just an excuse in stead of> >

practically sharing your 4 step experience by answering my practical> > questions and examples.> >> > Since you're are not answering any question, your 4 Step Theory is> > taken and will be taken as written in your 4 Step Book, as presented> > in my practical examples.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> > <%40>, "sunil> > gondhalekar"> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:> > >> > > dear tw853,> > > i have joined this forum to share my experience in 4 step theory.> > > looking at the mail matters it seems that i will have to prove the> > theory> > > before forum.i dont need it to prove before forum as it is proved> >

since> > > 10-12 yrs or more.> > > so i decided to become silent member of this group.> > > thanks> > > -sunil gondhalekar> > >> > >> > > On 9/12/07, Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tw853> > > > The 7th aspect cannot be taken into consideration, as the same> > planet> > > > cannot signify opposite houses, indicating opp matters.> > > >> > > > *tw853 <tw853@>* wrote:> > > >> > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (1)> > > >> > > > 1. CHART DATA> > > >> > > > Bhaskar Basu, 21-07-1986, 07:15 AM, Kolkata, 22N32, 88E21, New> > KPA> > > > 23-34-45, Asc Le 02-42-34, Sun Dasa Bal 4Y-9M-29D.> > > >> > > >

2. 4 STEP PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS> > > >> > > > Empty houses: 2, 6, 8, 10, 11> > > >> > > > Plts with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Me, Ra> > > >> > > > Plts in own stars (*): Ju, Ve, Sa> > > >> > > > Su Conj 12> > > > Ju Conj 8> > > > Ra Conj 9> > > > Ke Conj 3> > > >> > > > Su Aspt 6> > > > Ra Aspt 3> > > > Ke Aspt 9> > > >> > > > Plt Ke: Conj 3> > > > Stl of Ke is Ma: 5> > > > Sbl of Ke is Me+: 12-11> > > > Stl of Me is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > >> > > > Plt Ve*: 1-10> > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10> > > > Sbl of Ve is Mo+: 5> > > > Stl of Mo is Su: 12-2; Asp 6; Conj 12> >

> >> > > > Plt Su: Conj 12> > > > Stl of Su is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > Sbl of Su is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > Stl of Sa is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > >> > > > Plt Mo+: 5> > > > Stl of Mo is Su: 12-2; Asp 6; Conj 12> > > > Sbl of Mo is Ra+: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp 3; Cnj 9> > > > Stl of Ra is Ke: 3; Sgl Ve(1, 10); Stl Ma(5); Asp 9; Conj 3> > > >> > > > Planet Ma:> > > > Stl of Ma is Ve*: 1-10> > > > Sbl of Ma is Ju*: 7; Conj 8> > > > Stl of Ju is Ju*: 7; Cnj 8> > > >> > > > Plt Ra+: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp 3; Conj 9> > > > Stl of Ra is Ke: 3; Sgl Ve(1-10); Stl Ma(5); Asp 9; Conj 3> > > > Sbl of Ra is Ve*: 1-10> > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10> > > >> > > > Plt Ju*: 7; Conj

8> > > > Stl of Ju is Ju*: 7; Conj 8> > > > Sbl of Ju is Su: Conj 12> > > > Stl of Su is Sa*: 4; 6-8> > > >> > > > Plt Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > Stl of Sa is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > Sbl of Sa is Ve*: 1-10> > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10> > > >> > > > Plt Me+: 12-11> > > > Stl of Me is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > Sbl of Me is Ve*: 1-10> > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10> > > >> > > > 3. 7TH CUSP SUBLORD> > > >> > > > a)It is Ve signyfing 5-2 and so marraige is promised.> > > >> > > > b)RPs, 10-09-2007, 08:47:18 AM, 39N05, 77E09 (GMT-05:00)> > > >> > > > Lagna Lord = Me> > > > Mo's Stl = Ke> > > > Mo's Sgl = Su> > > > Day Lord =

Mo> > > >> > > > c) Ve is not in the RPs and so Ke in the RPs is taken as 7th cusp> > > > sbl. Marriage is promised as Ke signifies 5-11-8.> > > >> > > > 4. CURRENT RUNNING DASA> > > >> > > > a) The current running dasa is Ma (20-05-2001 to 20-05-2008.> > > > Marriage is possible as Ma signifies 7-8.> > > >> > > > b)The previous Bhukti is Ve, ie. Ma-Ve DB (12-04-2006 to 12-06-> > 2007.> > > > Bhukti lord Ve signifie 5-2 and so it it is capable of marriage.> > > >> > > > c) The chain signification of 2-7-11 & 5-8 would be complete> > during> > > > the DBA of Ma-Ve-Ke (18-05-2007 to 12-06-2007) because the> > missing> > > > link of 11 is signified by the Antara lord Ke.> > >

>> > > > 5. TRANSIT> > > >> > > > The transit had agreed with the DBA during the period of June 10-> > 12,> > > > 2007 while Ma was transiting in Me star, Ve in Sa star and Ke in> > the> > > > sub of Mo, which signify marriage related houses in the first 2> > > > steps and were not in retrograde.> > > >> > > > 6. RESULT> > > >> > > > Nothing happened in respect of marriage.> > > >> > > > 7. FUTURE PROSPECT> > > >> > > > Ma-Su DB (12-06-2007 to 18-10-2007) is capable of marriage by> > > > signifying 8.> > > >> > > > Ma-Mo DB (19-10-2007 to 20-05-2008) is capable of marriage by> > > > signifying 2,5.> > > >> > > > Ra (Maha)

Dasa (21-05-2008 to 20-05-2026) will deny marriage> > because> > > > it signifies only 1-10 in the 3rd and 4 th step.> > > >> > > > P.S.> > > >> > > > As per Shri Kuppu Ganapathi's matching for marriage as per KP> > > > principles of Ghaskar Basu and the Girl, 17-06-1986, 10:15 PM,> > > > Kolkata, it is not recommendable because the crierion 10 (whether> > > > the period lords now operating in both charts indicate> > desirability> > > > of matching for marriage)is only 41.67%, although the overall> > > > matching score is 70.83%.> > > >> > > > <%40><%> > 40>, bhaskar> >

> > basu <bsbhskr@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > hi,prasadgoud thanks for ur reply.but u told me to change my> > > > attitude......i didn't understand that........in what sense did u> > > > tell me to change my attitude????i mean which attitude should i> > > > change???plzzz make me clear abt this......thanking u> > > > >> > > > > prasadgoud77 <prasadgoud77@>> > > > wrote: -> > > > > -- In <%40><%> > 40>,> > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair> > > > > <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:> > > > > This chart indicates LOve failures .Its life time.I

m> > > > requesting u> > > > > to deviate u r self from Love .Try to concentrate on u r career> > > > > life.There is no way getting succeed in u r love in u r life> > > > time.> > > > > U have to change u r attitude.i know its difficult,but its part> > > > of life.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > varaprasad> > > > > > Dear Sir> > > > > >> > > > > > black spot on the nose indicates person is but cunning,> > > > adjusts> > > > > according to situation, may attempt to tell even lies to come> > out> > > > when> > > > > cornered etc.> > > > > >> > > > > > these are some of the analysis of this feature.>

> > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > MK viswanath> > > > > >> > > > > > bsbhskr <bsbhskr@> wrote:> > > > > > Hi,> > > > > > my DOB is 21.7.1986,POB is calcutta and TOB is> > 7.15A.M.so <http://7.15a.m.so/><http://7.15a.m.so/>far i> > > > > > have proposed to 4 girls but everyone rejected me.i'm really> > > > > > distressed and sad.i'm in love with a girl now who is very> > > > beautiful> > > > > > with a fair complexion and she has a black spot in her> > nose.so> > > > i want> > > > > > to know can any one help me to tell that whether she will> > > > accept my> >

> > > > love if i propose to her???plzzzzzzz help me.i dont want to> > get> > > > > > rejected again.i consulted many astrologers who told that> > love> > > > will> > > > > > come from 30.4.06 to 30.6.07 during this time but still> > nothing> > > > had> > > > > > happened.plzz help me> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >

>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we> > > > have it.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------> > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel> > today!> > <http://us.rd./evt=48517/*http://surveylink./gmrs/y> > ahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >>

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September 19, 2007

dear members,

noted the book review by most intelligent person from this forum

and thanks for the same.

i want to disclose one point which is not highlighted by mr.tw

on page no.2 i have clearly mentioned " As this method may conflict,

with the original KP rules,and to have distict name,we have named

is as the " FOUR STEP THEORY "

All other points on review can be analyse me but replying to my mail

mr.tw has mentioned that dont think that all forum members are your

students.

noting this point by mr.tw i take it granted that there is no room for

4 step theory in this forum.

thanks

-sunil gondhalekar

On 9/17/07, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

BOOK REVIEW FROM THE KP POINT OF VIEW " Advance Theory of KP- FOUR STEP THEORY by Sunil Gondhalekar " PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS1. Except taking the KP significators of order A and C (when the relevant houses are empty) and order B and D (when the relevant houses are empty) for a planet with no planet in its star and in its own star as primary significators, and applying the same rules to Rahu/Ketu along with the signification of the planets conjoined and aspected within the 3d:20m orb, its star-lord and its sign-lord, the KP principles have been revised, changed and messed up in the Four Step Book. 2. The worst revision is changing the role of the Sub-lord from a significator in KP to a significator in the Four Step. Because the Sub-lord is the corner stone of KP and it is used to say that KP is the Sub theory, nothing else. Guruji KSK has crowed simultaneously in the KP Reader III, V and VI that the discovery of the sub-lord with such deciding role made him crowned. In KP this Sub-lord is crucial in deciding whether a matter governed by the house or indicated by the planet is beneficial or not and selecting the fruitful significators.

3. It is not correct that in the prevalent KP practices it is normally restricted only to the first 2 steps since it is not KP without the step 3 of the Sub-lord. Taking only 2 steps is like going back to the Satayacharya era of about 2000 years ago.

4. The very weak KP significators of order E have been upgraded to the rank of the primary significators mainly by mere conjunction and aspect within 3.33 deg. orb without taking proper consideration of

whether the relevant house is empty, whether there is any planet in the star of the relevant planet, whether the E significator is aspected by the A to D rank significators or not, duplication and confusion of significators caused by applying 7th (opposite) aspect, the worst thing of the inclusion of the Ket's 7th aspect, which is also against the KP principles.5. Shri Raichur has correctly cautioned not to apply the 7th opposite aspect. When a planet aspects a cusp by the opposite aspect, it is conjunct with the cusp of the house where this planet resides. By taking the opposite aspect, this planet has to signify both opposite houses simultaneously. In the case of Rahu/Ketu, Rahu or Ketu has to signify both opposite houses simultaneously, which is misleading.6. It is not correct that a planet near the cusp does not signify the next house as per KP rules because such signification has been experienced by Guruji KSK (KP Reader IV, page 108), KP and also Vedic and Western astrologers like K. Subramanium, T. Rajendra Kumar C.V. Tyagaraja Iyer, Shri Raichur, Kanak, James Braha, and Carl Woebcke and the 3.33 deg, orb has been incorporated in the purely KP SWs of Shri Raichur and KPAstro.

RULING PLANEST7. It is said that the Ruling Planets may change depending on the time, space, and astrologer and cannot be always useful in selecting the significators, and they are not used in the Four Step Theory for this purpose. However, the revised KP RPs have been used to check or correct the sub-lord of the relevant cusp in the Natal chart as if there is some change in the birth time and they are also used to choose the DBA in an example of the book. RETROGRESSION8. The retrogression is said not working in the horary chart as per Guruji's KSK guidance. It is a bolder statement than Dr. Kar's retrograde theory. The retrogression has been used only in checking the transits of DBA lords for the event to take place.TRANSIT9. The Four Step way of checking the star-lord of the fast moving dasa lord and the sub-lord of the slow moving dasa lord whether they

are the required primary significators in only the first 2 steps and not in retrograde for fructification of an event is entirely different from KP.HOUSE GROUPING10. More houses are added to the KP house grouping giving more chance for an event to take place and less chance for the denial.OBSERVATION11. The Four Step Theory of the revised, changed and messed up KP principles can not be called as the Advance KP and the Guruji KSK's KP as the traditional KP because there is only and the only one KP, which is the brand name of Guruji KSK. There are other versions of KP like the Cuspal Interlink Theory, KB (of Baskaran) and Dr. Kar's

Theory without misusing the brand name of KP. 12. Guruji KSK has kept an open mind on the new theories by saying that astrology is not a monopoly, and encouraged the further research by saying, " My friends, we have come up to this- you should continue the research and you may reach to further truth " . APOLOGY12. My apology if it unintentionally hurts any body even through my presentation is the issue related and not personal one.

, " sunil gondhalekar " <sunilalaka wrote:>> dear hardepji,> thanks for the kind words.> i have never told that 4 step theory gives 100% results.

> even the predictios given by me are nearest to the answers.this fact is also> i have> openly accepted and declared to the students.> now about the surat seminar,this is arraged by surat study group.

> to answer is not my problem nor it is an excuse but main problem is that> my conclusion will not be accepted by some few members that's why i have> decided> to be silent.but after my surat visit i will post my conclusions for the> benefits of members> who really wants to study 4 step theory and the simplicity of theory.> pl.also remember that 4 step theory is not mine,it is from KSK principles.> i have already given my opinion on 2 cases.

> -sunil gondhalekar> > > On 9/15/07, hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote:> >> > dear sunil ji,> > either except that 4 styep theory is not full preeof, or answer these> > questions which every student of astrology will try to learn.> > there is a advertisement you are conducting one day work shop in surat. if> > you cant clear these dobts what will be you do there.

> > i also want answers.> > please dont take it personally. i have respect for you, but you must have> > courage to come out with answers,> > regards> > hs nagi> >

> > *tw853 <tw853* wrote:> >> > Dear sunil gondhalekar,> >> > It's a pity that you're giving just an excuse in stead of> > practically sharing your 4 step experience by answering my practical> > questions and examples.> >> > Since you're are not answering any question, your 4 Step Theory is> > taken and will be taken as written in your 4 Step Book, as presented> > in my practical examples.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> >

<%40>, " sunil> > gondhalekar " > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:> > >> > > dear tw853,

> > > i have joined this forum to share my experience in 4 step theory.> > > looking at the mail matters it seems that i will have to prove the> > theory> > > before forum.i dont need it to prove before forum as it is proved> > since> > > 10-12 yrs or more.> > > so i decided to become silent member of this group.> > > thanks> > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > >> > >> > > On 9/12/07, Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tw853> > > > The 7th aspect cannot be taken into consideration, as the same> > planet> > > > cannot signify opposite houses, indicating opp matters.> > > >> > > > *tw853 <tw853@>* wrote:> > > >> > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (1)

> > > >> > > > 1. CHART DATA> > > >> > > > Bhaskar Basu, 21-07-1986, 07:15 AM, Kolkata, 22N32, 88E21, New> > KPA> > > > 23-34-45, Asc Le 02-42-34, Sun Dasa Bal 4Y-9M-29D.

> > > >> > > > 2. 4 STEP PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS> > > >> > > > Empty houses: 2, 6, 8, 10, 11> > > >> > > > Plts with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Me, Ra

> > > >> > > > Plts in own stars (*): Ju, Ve, Sa> > > >> > > > Su Conj 12> > > > Ju Conj 8> > > > Ra Conj 9> > > > Ke Conj 3

> > > >> > > > Su Aspt 6> > > > Ra Aspt 3> > > > Ke Aspt 9> > > >> > > > Plt Ke: Conj 3> > > > Stl of Ke is Ma: 5

> > > > Sbl of Ke is Me+: 12-11> > > > Stl of Me is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > >> > > > Plt Ve*: 1-10> > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10> > > > Sbl of Ve is Mo+: 5

> > > > Stl of Mo is Su: 12-2; Asp 6; Conj 12> > > >> > > > Plt Su: Conj 12> > > > Stl of Su is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > Sbl of Su is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > Stl of Sa is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > >> > > > Plt Mo+: 5> > > > Stl of Mo is Su: 12-2; Asp 6; Conj 12> > > > Sbl of Mo is Ra+: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp 3; Cnj 9

> > > > Stl of Ra is Ke: 3; Sgl Ve(1, 10); Stl Ma(5); Asp 9; Conj 3> > > >> > > > Planet Ma:> > > > Stl of Ma is Ve*: 1-10> > > > Sbl of Ma is Ju*: 7; Conj 8

> > > > Stl of Ju is Ju*: 7; Cnj 8> > > >> > > > Plt Ra+: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp 3; Conj 9> > > > Stl of Ra is Ke: 3; Sgl Ve(1-10); Stl Ma(5); Asp 9; Conj 3> > > > Sbl of Ra is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10> > > >> > > > Plt Ju*: 7; Conj 8> > > > Stl of Ju is Ju*: 7; Conj 8> > > > Sbl of Ju is Su: Conj 12> > > > Stl of Su is Sa*: 4; 6-8

> > > >> > > > Plt Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > Stl of Sa is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > Sbl of Sa is Ve*: 1-10> > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10> > > >

> > > > Plt Me+: 12-11> > > > Stl of Me is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > Sbl of Me is Ve*: 1-10> > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10> > > >> > > > 3. 7TH CUSP SUBLORD

> > > >> > > > a)It is Ve signyfing 5-2 and so marraige is promised.> > > >> > > > b)RPs, 10-09-2007, 08:47:18 AM, 39N05, 77E09 (GMT-05:00)> > > >

> > > > Lagna Lord = Me> > > > Mo's Stl = Ke> > > > Mo's Sgl = Su> > > > Day Lord = Mo> > > >> > > > c) Ve is not in the RPs and so Ke in the RPs is taken as 7th cusp> > > > sbl. Marriage is promised as Ke signifies 5-11-8.> > > >> > > > 4. CURRENT RUNNING DASA> > > >> > > > a) The current running dasa is Ma (20-05-2001 to 20-05-2008.

> > > > Marriage is possible as Ma signifies 7-8.> > > >> > > > b)The previous Bhukti is Ve, ie. Ma-Ve DB (12-04-2006 to 12-06-> > 2007.> > > > Bhukti lord Ve signifie 5-2 and so it it is capable of marriage.> > > >> > > > c) The chain signification of 2-7-11 & 5-8 would be complete> > during> > > > the DBA of Ma-Ve-Ke (18-05-2007 to 12-06-2007) because the

> > missing> > > > link of 11 is signified by the Antara lord Ke.> > > >> > > > 5. TRANSIT> > > >> > > > The transit had agreed with the DBA during the period of June 10-> > 12,> > > > 2007 while Ma was transiting in Me star, Ve in Sa star and Ke in> > the> > > > sub of Mo, which signify marriage related houses in the

first 2> > > > steps and were not in retrograde.> > > >> > > > 6. RESULT> > > >> > > > Nothing happened in respect of marriage.> > > >

> > > > 7. FUTURE PROSPECT> > > >> > > > Ma-Su DB (12-06-2007 to 18-10-2007) is capable of marriage by> > > > signifying 8.> > > >> > > > Ma-Mo DB (19-10-2007 to 20-05-2008) is capable of marriage by

> > > > signifying 2,5.> > > >> > > > Ra (Maha) Dasa (21-05-2008 to 20-05-2026) will deny marriage> > because> > > > it signifies only 1-10 in the 3rd and 4 th step.

> > > >> > > > P.S.> > > >> > > > As per Shri Kuppu Ganapathi's matching for marriage as per KP> > > > principles of Ghaskar Basu and the Girl, 17-06-1986, 10:15 PM,> > > > Kolkata, it is not recommendable because the crierion 10 (whether> > > > the period lords now operating in both charts indicate> > desirability> > > > of matching for marriage)is only 41.67%, although the overall> > > > matching score is 70.83%.> > > >> > > >

<%40><%> > 40>, bhaskar> > > > basu <bsbhskr@> wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > hi,prasadgoud thanks for ur reply.but u told me to change my> > > > attitude......i didn't understand that........in what sense did u

> > > > tell me to change my attitude????i mean which attitude should i> > > > change???plzzz make me clear abt this......thanking u> > > > >> > > > > prasadgoud77 <prasadgoud77@>

> > > > wrote: -> > > > > -- In <%

40><%> > 40>,> > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair> > > > > <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:

> > > > > This chart indicates LOve failures .Its life time.I m> > > > requesting u> > > > > to deviate u r self from Love .Try to concentrate on u r career> > > > > life.There is no way getting succeed in u r love in u r life> > > > time.> > > > > U have to change u r attitude.i know its difficult,but its part> > > > of life.

> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > varaprasad> > > > > > Dear Sir> > > > > >> > > > > > black spot on the nose indicates person is but cunning,

> > > > adjusts> > > > > according to situation, may attempt to tell even lies to come> > out> > > > when> > > > > cornered etc.> > > > > >

> > > > > > these are some of the analysis of this feature.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > MK viswanath> > > > > >

> > > > > > bsbhskr <bsbhskr@> wrote:> > > > > > Hi,> > > > > > my DOB is 21.7.1986,POB is calcutta and TOB is> >

7.15A.M.so <http://7.15a.m.so/><

http://7.15a.m.so/>far i> > > > > > have proposed to 4 girls but everyone rejected me.i'm really> > > > > > distressed and sad.i'm in love with a girl now who is very> > > > beautiful> > > > > > with a fair complexion and she has a black spot in her> > nose.so> > > > i want> > > > > > to know can any one help me to tell that whether she will

> > > > accept my> > > > > > love if i propose to her???plzzzzzzz help me.i dont want to> > get> > > > > > rejected again.i consulted many astrologers who told that

> > love> > > > will> > > > > > come from 30.4.06 to 30.6.07 during this time but still> > nothing> > > > had> > > > > > happened.plzz

help me> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >

> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we> > > > have it.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------

> > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel> > today!> > <

http://us.rd./evt=48517/*http://surveylink./gmrs/y> > ahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >

> >> >> > ------------------------------> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!> > Play Monopoly Here and Now<

http://us.rd./evt=48223/*http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow>(it's updated for today's economy) at Games.> >> > > >>

September 20, 2007

Dear Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar,

1. I'm wondering why " Advance Theory of KP " is put in front of Four

Step Theory knowingly it's conflicting with KP, perhaps implying the

KP to be called as traditional KP by some, which is not acceptable.

2. I haven't said whether the Four Step Theory is bad or good or no

place in this forum. I've thoroughly studied it and just asked

questions with the practical examples as you asked to make it more

clear. If something in my presentation is not in line with those

written in the book, please let me know, I'm ready to answer any

time by giving page no reference and paras etc.

3. As you've said it is according to the KP principles, I have to

give the review to make it clear how it is.

4. You can make your own judgement with your own assumptions and

it's up to you to answer the questions or not. I'm no more insisting

to do so.

Regards,

tw

, " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka wrote:

>

> dear members,

> noted the book review by most intelligent person from this forum

> and thanks for the same.

> i want to disclose one point which is not highlighted by mr.tw

> on page no.2 i have clearly mentioned " As this method may conflict,

> with the original KP rules,and to have distict name,we have named

> is as the " FOUR STEP THEORY "

> All other points on review can be analyse me but replying to my

mail

> mr.tw has mentioned that dont think that all forum members are your

> students.

> noting this point by mr.tw i take it granted that there is no room

for

> 4 step theory in this forum.

> thanks

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

> On 9/17/07, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> >

> > BOOK REVIEW FROM THE KP POINT OF VIEW

> >

> > " Advance Theory of KP- FOUR STEP THEORY by Sunil Gondhalekar "

> >

> > PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS

> >

> > 1. Except taking the KP significators of order A and C (when the

> > relevant houses are empty) and order B and D (when the relevant

> > houses are empty) for a planet with no planet in its star and in

its

> > own star as primary significators, and applying the same rules to

> > Rahu/Ketu along with the signification of the planets conjoined

and

> > aspected within the 3d:20m orb, its star-lord and its sign-lord,

the

> > KP principles have been revised, changed and messed up in the

Four

> > Step Book.

> >

> > 2. The worst revision is changing the role of the Sub-lord from a

> > significator in KP to a significator in the Four Step. Because

the

> > Sub-lord is the corner stone of KP and it is used to say that KP

is

> > the Sub theory, nothing else. Guruji KSK has crowed

simultaneously

> > in the KP Reader III, V and VI that the discovery of the sub-lord

> > with such deciding role made him crowned. In KP this Sub-lord is

> > crucial in deciding whether a matter governed by the house or

> > indicated by the planet is beneficial or not and selecting the

> > fruitful significators.

> >

> > 3. It is not correct that in the prevalent KP practices it is

> > normally restricted only to the first 2 steps since it is not KP

> > without the step 3 of the Sub-lord. Taking only 2 steps is like

> > going back to the Satayacharya era of about 2000 years ago.

> >

> > 4. The very weak KP significators of order E have been upgraded

to

> > the rank of the primary significators mainly by mere conjunction

and

> > aspect within 3.33 deg. orb without taking proper consideration

of

> > whether the relevant house is empty, whether there is any planet

in

> > the star of the relevant planet, whether the E significator is

> > aspected by the A to D rank significators or not, duplication and

> > confusion of significators caused by applying 7th (opposite)

aspect,

> > the worst thing of the inclusion of the Ket's 7th aspect, which

is

> > also against the KP principles.

> >

> > 5. Shri Raichur has correctly cautioned not to apply the 7th

> > opposite aspect. When a planet aspects a cusp by the opposite

> > aspect, it is conjunct with the cusp of the house where this

planet

> > resides. By taking the opposite aspect, this planet has to

signify

> > both opposite houses simultaneously. In the case of Rahu/Ketu,

Rahu

> > or Ketu has to signify both opposite houses simultaneously,

which is

> > misleading.

> >

> > 6. It is not correct that a planet near the cusp does not signify

> > the next house as per KP rules because such signification has

been

> > experienced by Guruji KSK (KP Reader IV, page 108), KP and also

> > Vedic and Western astrologers like K. Subramanium, T. Rajendra

Kumar

> > C.V. Tyagaraja Iyer, Shri Raichur, Kanak, James Braha, and Carl

> > Woebcke and the 3.33 deg, orb has been incorporated in the

purely KP

> > SWs of Shri Raichur and KPAstro.

> >

> > RULING PLANEST

> >

> > 7. It is said that the Ruling Planets may change depending on the

> > time, space, and astrologer and cannot be always useful in

selecting

> > the significators, and they are not used in the Four Step Theory

for

> > this purpose. However, the revised KP RPs have been used to

check or

> > correct the sub-lord of the relevant cusp in the Natal chart as

if

> > there is some change in the birth time and they are also used to

> > choose the DBA in an example of the book.

> >

> > RETROGRESSION

> >

> > 8. The retrogression is said not working in the horary chart as

per

> > Guruji's KSK guidance. It is a bolder statement than Dr. Kar's

> > retrograde theory. The retrogression has been used only in

checking

> > the transits of DBA lords for the event to take place.

> >

> > TRANSIT

> >

> > 9. The Four Step way of checking the star-lord of the fast moving

> > dasa lord and the sub-lord of the slow moving dasa lord whether

they

> > are the required primary significators in only the first 2 steps

and

> > not in retrograde for fructification of an event is entirely

> > different from KP.

> >

> > HOUSE GROUPING

> >

> > 10. More houses are added to the KP house grouping giving more

> > chance for an event to take place and less chance for the denial.

> >

> > OBSERVATION

> >

> > 11. The Four Step Theory of the revised, changed and messed up KP

> > principles can not be called as the Advance KP and the Guruji

KSK's

> > KP as the traditional KP because there is only and the only one

KP,

> > which is the brand name of Guruji KSK. There are other versions

of

> > KP like the Cuspal Interlink Theory, KB (of Baskaran) and Dr.

Kar's

> > Theory without misusing the brand name of KP.

> >

> > 12. Guruji KSK has kept an open mind on the new theories by

saying

> > that astrology is not a monopoly, and encouraged the further

> > research by saying,

> >

> > " My friends, we have come up to this- you should continue the

> > research and you may reach to further truth " .

> >

> > APOLOGY

> >

> > 12. My apology if it unintentionally hurts any body even through

my

> > presentation is the issue related and not personal one.

> >

> > <%

40>, " sunil

> > gondhalekar "

> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear hardepji,

> > > thanks for the kind words.

> > > i have never told that 4 step theory gives 100% results.

> > > even the predictios given by me are nearest to the answers.this

> > fact is also

> > > i have

> > > openly accepted and declared to the students.

> > > now about the surat seminar,this is arraged by surat study

group.

> > > to answer is not my problem nor it is an excuse but main

problem

> > is that

> > > my conclusion will not be accepted by some few members that's

why

> > i have

> > > decided

> > > to be silent.but after my surat visit i will post my

conclusions

> > for the

> > > benefits of members

> > > who really wants to study 4 step theory and the simplicity of

> > theory.

> > > pl.also remember that 4 step theory is not mine,it is from KSK

> > principles.

> > > i have already given my opinion on 2 cases.

> > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > >

> > > On 9/15/07, hardeep singh <bkhardeep@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear sunil ji,

> > > > either except that 4 styep theory is not full preeof, or

answer

> > these

> > > > questions which every student of astrology will try to learn.

> > > > there is a advertisement you are conducting one day work

shop in

> > surat. if

> > > > you cant clear these dobts what will be you do there.

> > > > i also want answers.

> > > > please dont take it personally. i have respect for you, but

you

> > must have

> > > > courage to come out with answers,

> > > > regards

> > > > hs nagi

> > > >

> > > > *tw853 <tw853@>* wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear sunil gondhalekar,

> > > >

> > > > It's a pity that you're giving just an excuse in stead of

> > > > practically sharing your 4 step experience by answering my

> > practical

> > > > questions and examples.

> > > >

> > > > Since you're are not answering any question, your 4 Step

Theory

> > is

> > > > taken and will be taken as written in your 4 Step Book, as

> > presented

> > > > in my practical examples.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > <%

40><%

> > 40>, " sunil

> > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear tw853,

> > > > > i have joined this forum to share my experience in 4 step

> > theory.

> > > > > looking at the mail matters it seems that i will have to

prove

> > the

> > > > theory

> > > > > before forum.i dont need it to prove before forum as it is

> > proved

> > > > since

> > > > > 10-12 yrs or more.

> > > > > so i decided to become silent member of this group.

> > > > > thanks

> > > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > >

> > > > > On 9/12/07, Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Tw853

> > > > > > The 7th aspect cannot be taken into consideration, as the

> > same

> > > > planet

> > > > > > cannot signify opposite houses, indicating opp matters.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *tw853 <tw853@>* wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (1)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. CHART DATA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar Basu, 21-07-1986, 07:15 AM, Kolkata, 22N32,

88E21,

> > New

> > > > KPA

> > > > > > 23-34-45, Asc Le 02-42-34, Sun Dasa Bal 4Y-9M-29D.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. 4 STEP PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Empty houses: 2, 6, 8, 10, 11

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Plts with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Me, Ra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Plts in own stars (*): Ju, Ve, Sa

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Su Conj 12

> > > > > > Ju Conj 8

> > > > > > Ra Conj 9

> > > > > > Ke Conj 3

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Su Aspt 6

> > > > > > Ra Aspt 3

> > > > > > Ke Aspt 9

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Plt Ke: Conj 3

> > > > > > Stl of Ke is Ma: 5

> > > > > > Sbl of Ke is Me+: 12-11

> > > > > > Stl of Me is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Plt Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > Sbl of Ve is Mo+: 5

> > > > > > Stl of Mo is Su: 12-2; Asp 6; Conj 12

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Plt Su: Conj 12

> > > > > > Stl of Su is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > > Sbl of Su is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > > Stl of Sa is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Plt Mo+: 5

> > > > > > Stl of Mo is Su: 12-2; Asp 6; Conj 12

> > > > > > Sbl of Mo is Ra+: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp 3; Cnj 9

> > > > > > Stl of Ra is Ke: 3; Sgl Ve(1, 10); Stl Ma(5); Asp 9;

Conj 3

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Planet Ma:

> > > > > > Stl of Ma is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > Sbl of Ma is Ju*: 7; Conj 8

> > > > > > Stl of Ju is Ju*: 7; Cnj 8

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Plt Ra+: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp 3; Conj 9

> > > > > > Stl of Ra is Ke: 3; Sgl Ve(1-10); Stl Ma(5); Asp 9; Conj

3

> > > > > > Sbl of Ra is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Plt Ju*: 7; Conj 8

> > > > > > Stl of Ju is Ju*: 7; Conj 8

> > > > > > Sbl of Ju is Su: Conj 12

> > > > > > Stl of Su is Sa*: 4; 6-8

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Plt Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > > Stl of Sa is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > > Sbl of Sa is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Plt Me+: 12-11

> > > > > > Stl of Me is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > > Sbl of Me is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. 7TH CUSP SUBLORD

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a)It is Ve signyfing 5-2 and so marraige is promised.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > b)RPs, 10-09-2007, 08:47:18 AM, 39N05, 77E09 (GMT-05:00)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lagna Lord = Me

> > > > > > Mo's Stl = Ke

> > > > > > Mo's Sgl = Su

> > > > > > Day Lord = Mo

> > > > > >

> > > > > > c) Ve is not in the RPs and so Ke in the RPs is taken as

7th

> > cusp

> > > > > > sbl. Marriage is promised as Ke signifies 5-11-8.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. CURRENT RUNNING DASA

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a) The current running dasa is Ma (20-05-2001 to 20-05-

2008.

> > > > > > Marriage is possible as Ma signifies 7-8.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > b)The previous Bhukti is Ve, ie. Ma-Ve DB (12-04-2006 to

12-

> > 06-

> > > > 2007.

> > > > > > Bhukti lord Ve signifie 5-2 and so it it is capable of

> > marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > c) The chain signification of 2-7-11 & 5-8 would be

complete

> > > > during

> > > > > > the DBA of Ma-Ve-Ke (18-05-2007 to 12-06-2007) because

the

> > > > missing

> > > > > > link of 11 is signified by the Antara lord Ke.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5. TRANSIT

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The transit had agreed with the DBA during the period of

> > June 10-

> > > > 12,

> > > > > > 2007 while Ma was transiting in Me star, Ve in Sa star

and

> > Ke in

> > > > the

> > > > > > sub of Mo, which signify marriage related houses in the

> > first 2

> > > > > > steps and were not in retrograde.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6. RESULT

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nothing happened in respect of marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 7. FUTURE PROSPECT

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ma-Su DB (12-06-2007 to 18-10-2007) is capable of

marriage by

> > > > > > signifying 8.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ma-Mo DB (19-10-2007 to 20-05-2008) is capable of

marriage by

> > > > > > signifying 2,5.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ra (Maha) Dasa (21-05-2008 to 20-05-2026) will deny

marriage

> > > > because

> > > > > > it signifies only 1-10 in the 3rd and 4 th step.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P.S.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per Shri Kuppu Ganapathi's matching for marriage as

per KP

> > > > > > principles of Ghaskar Basu and the Girl, 17-06-1986,

10:15

> > PM,

> > > > > > Kolkata, it is not recommendable because the crierion 10

> > (whether

> > > > > > the period lords now operating in both charts indicate

> > > > desirability

> > > > > > of matching for marriage)is only 41.67%, although the

overall

> > > > > > matching score is 70.83%.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%

40><%

> > 40><%

> > > > 40>, bhaskar

> > > > > > basu <bsbhskr@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > hi,prasadgoud thanks for ur reply.but u told me to

change

> > my

> > > > > > attitude......i didn't understand that........in what

sense

> > did u

> > > > > > tell me to change my attitude????i mean which attitude

> > should i

> > > > > > change???plzzz make me clear abt this......thanking u

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > prasadgoud77 <prasadgoud77@>

> > > > > > wrote: -

> > > > > > > -- In <%

40><%

> > 40><%

> > > > 40>,

> > > > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair

> > > > > > > <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:

> > > > > > > This chart indicates LOve failures .Its life time.I m

> > > > > > requesting u

> > > > > > > to deviate u r self from Love .Try to concentrate on u

r

> > career

> > > > > > > life.There is no way getting succeed in u r love in u r

> > life

> > > > > > time.

> > > > > > > U have to change u r attitude.i know its difficult,but

its

> > part

> > > > > > of life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > varaprasad

> > > > > > > > Dear Sir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > black spot on the nose indicates person is but

cunning,

> > > > > > adjusts

> > > > > > > according to situation, may attempt to tell even lies

to

> > come

> > > > out

> > > > > > when

> > > > > > > cornered etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > these are some of the analysis of this feature.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > MK viswanath

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > bsbhskr <bsbhskr@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > > my DOB is 21.7.1986,POB is calcutta and TOB is

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> > > > > > i want

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> > > > > > accept my

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> > > > get

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> > > > > > will

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Dear TW853 The heading of Advanced Theory of KP was used at my suggestion. It is based,primarily on the principles of KSK, with certain changes, based on practical experiences of Sondhalekar, which also draws a lot feom the articles "Sub Lord Speaks" by Subramaniam, published in KP & Astrology. It is an advancement on KP, in fixing the time of an event, without using Ruling Planets. Ruling planets will vary from person to person, depending on the place and time of the querry. In spite of the heading, it is still refrred to as the 4Step Method(Theory). tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar,1. I'm wondering why "Advance Theory of KP" is put in front of Four Step Theory knowingly it's conflicting with KP, perhaps implying the KP to be called as traditional KP by some, which is not acceptable.2. I haven't said whether the Four Step Theory is bad or good or no place in this forum. I've thoroughly studied it and just asked questions with the practical examples as you asked to make it more clear. If something in my presentation is not in line with those written in the book, please let me know, I'm ready to answer any time by giving page no reference and paras etc. 3. As you've said it is according to the KP principles, I have to give the review to make it clear how it is.4. You can make your own judgement with your own assumptions and it's up to you to answer the questions or

not. I'm no more insisting to do so.Regards,tw , "sunil gondhalekar" <sunilalaka wrote:>> dear members,> noted the book review by most intelligent person from this forum> and thanks for the same.> i want to disclose one point which is not highlighted by mr.tw> on page no.2 i have clearly mentioned"As this method may conflict,> with the original KP rules,and to have distict name,we have named> is as the "FOUR STEP THEORY"> All other points on review can be analyse me but replying to my mail> mr.tw has mentioned that dont think that all forum members are your> students.> noting this point by mr.tw i take it granted that there is no room for> 4 step theory in this forum.> thanks> -sunil gondhalekar> > > On

9/17/07, tw853 <tw853 wrote:> >> > BOOK REVIEW FROM THE KP POINT OF VIEW> >> > "Advance Theory of KP- FOUR STEP THEORY by Sunil Gondhalekar"> >> > PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS> >> > 1. Except taking the KP significators of order A and C (when the> > relevant houses are empty) and order B and D (when the relevant> > houses are empty) for a planet with no planet in its star and in its> > own star as primary significators, and applying the same rules to> > Rahu/Ketu along with the signification of the planets conjoined and> > aspected within the 3d:20m orb, its star-lord and its sign-lord, the> > KP principles have been revised, changed and messed up in the Four> > Step Book.> >> > 2. The worst revision is changing the role of the Sub-lord from a> > significator in KP to a

significator in the Four Step. Because the> > Sub-lord is the corner stone of KP and it is used to say that KP is> > the Sub theory, nothing else. Guruji KSK has crowed simultaneously> > in the KP Reader III, V and VI that the discovery of the sub-lord> > with such deciding role made him crowned. In KP this Sub-lord is> > crucial in deciding whether a matter governed by the house or> > indicated by the planet is beneficial or not and selecting the> > fruitful significators.> >> > 3. It is not correct that in the prevalent KP practices it is> > normally restricted only to the first 2 steps since it is not KP> > without the step 3 of the Sub-lord. Taking only 2 steps is like> > going back to the Satayacharya era of about 2000 years ago.> >> > 4. The very weak KP significators of order E have been upgraded to> >

the rank of the primary significators mainly by mere conjunction and> > aspect within 3.33 deg. orb without taking proper consideration of> > whether the relevant house is empty, whether there is any planet in> > the star of the relevant planet, whether the E significator is> > aspected by the A to D rank significators or not, duplication and> > confusion of significators caused by applying 7th (opposite) aspect,> > the worst thing of the inclusion of the Ket's 7th aspect, which is> > also against the KP principles.> >> > 5. Shri Raichur has correctly cautioned not to apply the 7th> > opposite aspect. When a planet aspects a cusp by the opposite> > aspect, it is conjunct with the cusp of the house where this planet> > resides. By taking the opposite aspect, this planet has to signify> > both opposite houses

simultaneously. In the case of Rahu/Ketu, Rahu> > or Ketu has to signify both opposite houses simultaneously, which is> > misleading.> >> > 6. It is not correct that a planet near the cusp does not signify> > the next house as per KP rules because such signification has been> > experienced by Guruji KSK (KP Reader IV, page 108), KP and also> > Vedic and Western astrologers like K. Subramanium, T. Rajendra Kumar> > C.V. Tyagaraja Iyer, Shri Raichur, Kanak, James Braha, and Carl> > Woebcke and the 3.33 deg, orb has been incorporated in the purely KP> > SWs of Shri Raichur and KPAstro.> >> > RULING PLANEST> >> > 7. It is said that the Ruling Planets may change depending on the> > time, space, and astrologer and cannot be always useful in selecting> > the significators, and they are not used in

the Four Step Theory for> > this purpose. However, the revised KP RPs have been used to check or> > correct the sub-lord of the relevant cusp in the Natal chart as if> > there is some change in the birth time and they are also used to> > choose the DBA in an example of the book.> >> > RETROGRESSION> >> > 8. The retrogression is said not working in the horary chart as per> > Guruji's KSK guidance. It is a bolder statement than Dr. Kar's> > retrograde theory. The retrogression has been used only in checking> > the transits of DBA lords for the event to take place.> >> > TRANSIT> >> > 9. The Four Step way of checking the star-lord of the fast moving> > dasa lord and the sub-lord of the slow moving dasa lord whether they> > are the required primary significators in only the first 2

steps and> > not in retrograde for fructification of an event is entirely> > different from KP.> >> > HOUSE GROUPING> >> > 10. More houses are added to the KP house grouping giving more> > chance for an event to take place and less chance for the denial.> >> > OBSERVATION> >> > 11. The Four Step Theory of the revised, changed and messed up KP> > principles can not be called as the Advance KP and the Guruji KSK's> > KP as the traditional KP because there is only and the only one KP,> > which is the brand name of Guruji KSK. There are other versions of> > KP like the Cuspal Interlink Theory, KB (of Baskaran) and Dr. Kar's> > Theory without misusing the brand name of KP.> >> > 12. Guruji KSK has kept an open mind on the new theories by saying> > that astrology is

not a monopoly, and encouraged the further> > research by saying,> >> > "My friends, we have come up to this- you should continue the> > research and you may reach to further truth".> >> > APOLOGY> >> > 12. My apology if it unintentionally hurts any body even through my> > presentation is the issue related and not personal one.> >> > <%40>, "sunil> > gondhalekar"> > <sunilalaka@> wrote:> > >> > > dear hardepji,> > > thanks for the kind words.> > > i have never told that 4 step theory gives 100% results.> > > even the predictios given by me are nearest to the answers.this> > fact is also> > > i have> > >

openly accepted and declared to the students.> > > now about the surat seminar,this is arraged by surat study group.> > > to answer is not my problem nor it is an excuse but main problem> > is that> > > my conclusion will not be accepted by some few members that's why> > i have> > > decided> > > to be silent.but after my surat visit i will post my conclusions> > for the> > > benefits of members> > > who really wants to study 4 step theory and the simplicity of> > theory.> > > pl.also remember that 4 step theory is not mine,it is from KSK> > principles.> > > i have already given my opinion on 2 cases.> > > -sunil gondhalekar> > >> > >> > > On 9/15/07, hardeep singh <bkhardeep@> wrote:> > > >> > > > dear

sunil ji,> > > > either except that 4 styep theory is not full preeof, or answer> > these> > > > questions which every student of astrology will try to learn.> > > > there is a advertisement you are conducting one day work shop in> > surat. if> > > > you cant clear these dobts what will be you do there.> > > > i also want answers.> > > > please dont take it personally. i have respect for you, but you> > must have> > > > courage to come out with answers,> > > > regards> > > > hs nagi> > > >> > > > *tw853 <tw853@>* wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear sunil gondhalekar,> > > >> > > > It's a pity that you're giving just an excuse in stead of> > > > practically sharing your 4 step

experience by answering my> > practical> > > > questions and examples.> > > >> > > > Since you're are not answering any question, your 4 Step Theory> > is> > > > taken and will be taken as written in your 4 Step Book, as> > presented> > > > in my practical examples.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > > <%40><%> > 40>, "sunil> > > > gondhalekar"> > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > dear tw853,> > > > > i have joined this forum to share my experience in 4 step>

> theory.> > > > > looking at the mail matters it seems that i will have to prove> > the> > > > theory> > > > > before forum.i dont need it to prove before forum as it is> > proved> > > > since> > > > > 10-12 yrs or more.> > > > > so i decided to become silent member of this group.> > > > > thanks> > > > > -sunil gondhalekar> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 9/12/07, Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Tw853> > > > > > The 7th aspect cannot be taken into consideration, as the> > same> > > > planet> > > > > > cannot signify opposite houses, indicating opp matters.> > > > > >> >

> > > > *tw853 <tw853@>* wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (1)> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. CHART DATA> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar Basu, 21-07-1986, 07:15 AM, Kolkata, 22N32, 88E21,> > New> > > > KPA> > > > > > 23-34-45, Asc Le 02-42-34, Sun Dasa Bal 4Y-9M-29D.> > > > > >> > > > > > 2. 4 STEP PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS> > > > > >> > > > > > Empty houses: 2, 6, 8, 10, 11> > > > > >> > > > > > Plts with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Me, Ra> > > > > >> > > > > > Plts in own stars (*): Ju, Ve, Sa> > > > > >> > > > > > Su Conj 12> >

> > > > Ju Conj 8> > > > > > Ra Conj 9> > > > > > Ke Conj 3> > > > > >> > > > > > Su Aspt 6> > > > > > Ra Aspt 3> > > > > > Ke Aspt 9> > > > > >> > > > > > Plt Ke: Conj 3> > > > > > Stl of Ke is Ma: 5> > > > > > Sbl of Ke is Me+: 12-11> > > > > > Stl of Me is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > > >> > > > > > Plt Ve*: 1-10> > > > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10> > > > > > Sbl of Ve is Mo+: 5> > > > > > Stl of Mo is Su: 12-2; Asp 6; Conj 12> > > > > >> > > > > > Plt Su: Conj 12> > > > > > Stl of Su is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > > > Sbl of Su is Sa*:

4-6-8> > > > > > Stl of Sa is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > > >> > > > > > Plt Mo+: 5> > > > > > Stl of Mo is Su: 12-2; Asp 6; Conj 12> > > > > > Sbl of Mo is Ra+: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp 3; Cnj 9> > > > > > Stl of Ra is Ke: 3; Sgl Ve(1, 10); Stl Ma(5); Asp 9; Conj 3> > > > > >> > > > > > Planet Ma:> > > > > > Stl of Ma is Ve*: 1-10> > > > > > Sbl of Ma is Ju*: 7; Conj 8> > > > > > Stl of Ju is Ju*: 7; Cnj 8> > > > > >> > > > > > Plt Ra+: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp 3; Conj 9> > > > > > Stl of Ra is Ke: 3; Sgl Ve(1-10); Stl Ma(5); Asp 9; Conj 3> > > > > > Sbl of Ra is Ve*: 1-10> > > > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10> > > > >

>> > > > > > Plt Ju*: 7; Conj 8> > > > > > Stl of Ju is Ju*: 7; Conj 8> > > > > > Sbl of Ju is Su: Conj 12> > > > > > Stl of Su is Sa*: 4; 6-8> > > > > >> > > > > > Plt Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > > > Stl of Sa is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > > > Sbl of Sa is Ve*: 1-10> > > > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10> > > > > >> > > > > > Plt Me+: 12-11> > > > > > Stl of Me is Sa*: 4-6-8> > > > > > Sbl of Me is Ve*: 1-10> > > > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10> > > > > >> > > > > > 3. 7TH CUSP SUBLORD> > > > > >> > > > > > a)It is Ve signyfing 5-2 and so marraige is promised.> > > > > >> >

> > > > b)RPs, 10-09-2007, 08:47:18 AM, 39N05, 77E09 (GMT-05:00)> > > > > >> > > > > > Lagna Lord = Me> > > > > > Mo's Stl = Ke> > > > > > Mo's Sgl = Su> > > > > > Day Lord = Mo> > > > > >> > > > > > c) Ve is not in the RPs and so Ke in the RPs is taken as 7th> > cusp> > > > > > sbl. Marriage is promised as Ke signifies 5-11-8.> > > > > >> > > > > > 4. CURRENT RUNNING DASA> > > > > >> > > > > > a) The current running dasa is Ma (20-05-2001 to 20-05-2008.> > > > > > Marriage is possible as Ma signifies 7-8.> > > > > >> > > > > > b)The previous Bhukti is Ve, ie. Ma-Ve DB (12-04-2006 to 12-> > 06->

> > > 2007.> > > > > > Bhukti lord Ve signifie 5-2 and so it it is capable of> > marriage.> > > > > >> > > > > > c) The chain signification of 2-7-11 & 5-8 would be complete> > > > during> > > > > > the DBA of Ma-Ve-Ke (18-05-2007 to 12-06-2007) because the> > > > missing> > > > > > link of 11 is signified by the Antara lord Ke.> > > > > >> > > > > > 5. TRANSIT> > > > > >> > > > > > The transit had agreed with the DBA during the period of> > June 10-> > > > 12,> > > > > > 2007 while Ma was transiting in Me star, Ve in Sa star and> > Ke in> > > > the> > > > > > sub of Mo, which signify marriage related houses in

the> > first 2> > > > > > steps and were not in retrograde.> > > > > >> > > > > > 6. RESULT> > > > > >> > > > > > Nothing happened in respect of marriage.> > > > > >> > > > > > 7. FUTURE PROSPECT> > > > > >> > > > > > Ma-Su DB (12-06-2007 to 18-10-2007) is capable of marriage by> > > > > > signifying 8.> > > > > >> > > > > > Ma-Mo DB (19-10-2007 to 20-05-2008) is capable of marriage by> > > > > > signifying 2,5.> > > > > >> > > > > > Ra (Maha) Dasa (21-05-2008 to 20-05-2026) will deny marriage> > > > because> > > > > > it signifies only 1-10 in the 3rd and 4 th step.> > > >

> >> > > > > > P.S.> > > > > >> > > > > > As per Shri Kuppu Ganapathi's matching for marriage as per KP> > > > > > principles of Ghaskar Basu and the Girl, 17-06-1986, 10:15> > PM,> > > > > > Kolkata, it is not recommendable because the crierion 10> > (whether> > > > > > the period lords now operating in both charts indicate> > > > desirability> > > > > > of matching for marriage)is only 41.67%, although the overall> > > > > > matching score is 70.83%.> > > > > >> > > > > > <%40><%> > 40><%> > >

> 40>, bhaskar> > > > > > basu <bsbhskr@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > hi,prasadgoud thanks for ur reply.but u told me to change> > my> > > > > > attitude......i didn't understand that........in what sense> > did u> > > > > > tell me to change my attitude????i mean which attitude> > should i> > > > > > change???plzzz make me clear abt this......thanking u> > > > > > >> > > > > > > prasadgoud77 <prasadgoud77@>> > > > > > wrote: -> > > > > > > -- In <%40><%> >

40><%> > > > 40>,> > > > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair> > > > > > > <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:> > > > > > > This chart indicates LOve failures .Its life time.I m> > > > > > requesting u> > > > > > > to deviate u r self from Love .Try to concentrate on u r> > career> > > > > > > life.There is no way getting succeed in u r love in u r> > life> > > > > > time.> > > > > > > U have to change u r attitude.i know its difficult,but its> > part> > > > > > of life.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > varaprasad> > > > > > > > Dear

Sir> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > black spot on the nose indicates person is but cunning,> > > > > > adjusts> > > > > > > according to situation, may attempt to tell even lies to> > come> > > > out> > > > > > when> > > > > > > cornered etc.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > these are some of the analysis of this feature.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > MK viswanath> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > bsbhskr <bsbhskr@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Hi,> > > > > > > > my DOB is 21.7.1986,POB is calcutta and TOB is> > > >

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Dear Raichur-a-r,

1. In selecting significators, as we're aware, other than using the

RPs, taking the cusp Sublord of the concerned houses is a commonly

used method and another one not much used is finding out whether its

Sub Lord is one of the Significators.

2. There is no room left to use the cusp Sublord method after

changing the role of the Sublord from a decider to significator.

However, the cusp Sublord is called for to rescue the problem of no

planet signifying the required houses in fixing of the Antara in the

analysis of Chart no.19 in page 80 of the Four Step Book. We will

study and see how reliably this method of fixing the time of an

event by a completion of DBA change of primary significators is fit

in the past events of the practical example charts.

3. If the RPs of the KP Golden Rules are varying depending on time,

space and person, how can the using of the revised and changed KP

RPs in checking or even correcting the sub-lord of the relevant cusp

in the Natal chart, as if there is some change in the birth time,

i.e. birth time rectification by RPs, be reliable in the Four Step

Theory?. Why such RPs are used in the analysis of Chart no.21 at the

end of the Four Step Book, pages 91-92?.

4. Referring it as the Four Step Theory is its own name and correct

one but not the Advance KP, otherwise it will so many advance KPs

like Dr. Kar's Theory of a lot of methods, KB of Baskaran, Cuspal

Interlink Theory.

, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

>

> Dear TW853

> The heading of Advanced Theory of KP was used at my suggestion.

It is based,primarily on the principles of KSK, with certain

changes, based on practical experiences of Sondhalekar, which also

draws a lot feom the articles " Sub Lord Speaks " by Subramaniam,

published in KP & Astrology.

> It is an advancement on KP, in fixing the time of an event,

without using Ruling Planets. Ruling planets will vary from person

to person, depending on the place and time of the querry.

> In spite of the heading, it is still refrred to as the 4Step

Method(Theory).

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar,

>

> 1. I'm wondering why " Advance Theory of KP " is put in front of

Four

> Step Theory knowingly it's conflicting with KP, perhaps implying

the

> KP to be called as traditional KP by some, which is not acceptable.

>

> 2. I haven't said whether the Four Step Theory is bad or good or

no

> place in this forum. I've thoroughly studied it and just asked

> questions with the practical examples as you asked to make it more

> clear. If something in my presentation is not in line with those

> written in the book, please let me know, I'm ready to answer any

> time by giving page no reference and paras etc.

>

> 3. As you've said it is according to the KP principles, I have to

> give the review to make it clear how it is.

>

> 4. You can make your own judgement with your own assumptions and

> it's up to you to answer the questions or not. I'm no more

insisting

> to do so.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> , " sunil gondhalekar "

> <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> >

> > dear members,

> > noted the book review by most intelligent person from this forum

> > and thanks for the same.

> > i want to disclose one point which is not highlighted by mr.tw

> > on page no.2 i have clearly mentioned " As this method may

conflict,

> > with the original KP rules,and to have distict name,we have named

> > is as the " FOUR STEP THEORY "

> > All other points on review can be analyse me but replying to my

> mail

> > mr.tw has mentioned that dont think that all forum members are

your

> > students.

> > noting this point by mr.tw i take it granted that there is no

room

> for

> > 4 step theory in this forum.

> > thanks

> > -sunil gondhalekar

> >

> > On 9/17/07, tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > >

> > > BOOK REVIEW FROM THE KP POINT OF VIEW

> > >

> > > " Advance Theory of KP- FOUR STEP THEORY by Sunil Gondhalekar "

> > >

> > > PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS

> > >

> > > 1. Except taking the KP significators of order A and C (when

the

> > > relevant houses are empty) and order B and D (when the relevant

> > > houses are empty) for a planet with no planet in its star and

in

> its

> > > own star as primary significators, and applying the same rules

to

> > > Rahu/Ketu along with the signification of the planets

conjoined

> and

> > > aspected within the 3d:20m orb, its star-lord and its sign-

lord,

> the

> > > KP principles have been revised, changed and messed up in the

> Four

> > > Step Book.

> > >

> > > 2. The worst revision is changing the role of the Sub-lord

from a

> > > significator in KP to a significator in the Four Step. Because

> the

> > > Sub-lord is the corner stone of KP and it is used to say that

KP

> is

> > > the Sub theory, nothing else. Guruji KSK has crowed

> simultaneously

> > > in the KP Reader III, V and VI that the discovery of the sub-

lord

> > > with such deciding role made him crowned. In KP this Sub-lord

is

> > > crucial in deciding whether a matter governed by the house or

> > > indicated by the planet is beneficial or not and selecting the

> > > fruitful significators.

> > >

> > > 3. It is not correct that in the prevalent KP practices it is

> > > normally restricted only to the first 2 steps since it is not

KP

> > > without the step 3 of the Sub-lord. Taking only 2 steps is like

> > > going back to the Satayacharya era of about 2000 years ago.

> > >

> > > 4. The very weak KP significators of order E have been

upgraded

> to

> > > the rank of the primary significators mainly by mere

conjunction

> and

> > > aspect within 3.33 deg. orb without taking proper

consideration

> of

> > > whether the relevant house is empty, whether there is any

planet

> in

> > > the star of the relevant planet, whether the E significator is

> > > aspected by the A to D rank significators or not, duplication

and

> > > confusion of significators caused by applying 7th (opposite)

> aspect,

> > > the worst thing of the inclusion of the Ket's 7th aspect,

which

> is

> > > also against the KP principles.

> > >

> > > 5. Shri Raichur has correctly cautioned not to apply the 7th

> > > opposite aspect. When a planet aspects a cusp by the opposite

> > > aspect, it is conjunct with the cusp of the house where this

> planet

> > > resides. By taking the opposite aspect, this planet has to

> signify

> > > both opposite houses simultaneously. In the case of Rahu/Ketu,

> Rahu

> > > or Ketu has to signify both opposite houses simultaneously,

> which is

> > > misleading.

> > >

> > > 6. It is not correct that a planet near the cusp does not

signify

> > > the next house as per KP rules because such signification has

> been

> > > experienced by Guruji KSK (KP Reader IV, page 108), KP and also

> > > Vedic and Western astrologers like K. Subramanium, T. Rajendra

> Kumar

> > > C.V. Tyagaraja Iyer, Shri Raichur, Kanak, James Braha, and Carl

> > > Woebcke and the 3.33 deg, orb has been incorporated in the

> purely KP

> > > SWs of Shri Raichur and KPAstro.

> > >

> > > RULING PLANEST

> > >

> > > 7. It is said that the Ruling Planets may change depending on

the

> > > time, space, and astrologer and cannot be always useful in

> selecting

> > > the significators, and they are not used in the Four Step

Theory

> for

> > > this purpose. However, the revised KP RPs have been used to

> check or

> > > correct the sub-lord of the relevant cusp in the Natal chart

as

> if

> > > there is some change in the birth time and they are also used

to

> > > choose the DBA in an example of the book.

> > >

> > > RETROGRESSION

> > >

> > > 8. The retrogression is said not working in the horary chart

as

> per

> > > Guruji's KSK guidance. It is a bolder statement than Dr. Kar's

> > > retrograde theory. The retrogression has been used only in

> checking

> > > the transits of DBA lords for the event to take place.

> > >

> > > TRANSIT

> > >

> > > 9. The Four Step way of checking the star-lord of the fast

moving

> > > dasa lord and the sub-lord of the slow moving dasa lord

whether

> they

> > > are the required primary significators in only the first 2

steps

> and

> > > not in retrograde for fructification of an event is entirely

> > > different from KP.

> > >

> > > HOUSE GROUPING

> > >

> > > 10. More houses are added to the KP house grouping giving more

> > > chance for an event to take place and less chance for the

denial.

> > >

> > > OBSERVATION

> > >

> > > 11. The Four Step Theory of the revised, changed and messed up

KP

> > > principles can not be called as the Advance KP and the Guruji

> KSK's

> > > KP as the traditional KP because there is only and the only

one

> KP,

> > > which is the brand name of Guruji KSK. There are other

versions

> of

> > > KP like the Cuspal Interlink Theory, KB (of Baskaran) and Dr.

> Kar's

> > > Theory without misusing the brand name of KP.

> > >

> > > 12. Guruji KSK has kept an open mind on the new theories by

> saying

> > > that astrology is not a monopoly, and encouraged the further

> > > research by saying,

> > >

> > > " My friends, we have come up to this- you should continue the

> > > research and you may reach to further truth " .

> > >

> > > APOLOGY

> > >

> > > 12. My apology if it unintentionally hurts any body even

through

> my

> > > presentation is the issue related and not personal one.

> > >

> > > <%

> 40>, " sunil

> > > gondhalekar "

> > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear hardepji,

> > > > thanks for the kind words.

> > > > i have never told that 4 step theory gives 100% results.

> > > > even the predictios given by me are nearest to the

answers.this

> > > fact is also

> > > > i have

> > > > openly accepted and declared to the students.

> > > > now about the surat seminar,this is arraged by surat study

> group.

> > > > to answer is not my problem nor it is an excuse but main

> problem

> > > is that

> > > > my conclusion will not be accepted by some few members

that's

> why

> > > i have

> > > > decided

> > > > to be silent.but after my surat visit i will post my

> conclusions

> > > for the

> > > > benefits of members

> > > > who really wants to study 4 step theory and the simplicity of

> > > theory.

> > > > pl.also remember that 4 step theory is not mine,it is from

KSK

> > > principles.

> > > > i have already given my opinion on 2 cases.

> > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > >

> > > > On 9/15/07, hardeep singh <bkhardeep@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear sunil ji,

> > > > > either except that 4 styep theory is not full preeof, or

> answer

> > > these

> > > > > questions which every student of astrology will try to

learn.

> > > > > there is a advertisement you are conducting one day work

> shop in

> > > surat. if

> > > > > you cant clear these dobts what will be you do there.

> > > > > i also want answers.

> > > > > please dont take it personally. i have respect for you,

but

> you

> > > must have

> > > > > courage to come out with answers,

> > > > > regards

> > > > > hs nagi

> > > > >

> > > > > *tw853 <tw853@>* wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear sunil gondhalekar,

> > > > >

> > > > > It's a pity that you're giving just an excuse in stead of

> > > > > practically sharing your 4 step experience by answering my

> > > practical

> > > > > questions and examples.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since you're are not answering any question, your 4 Step

> Theory

> > > is

> > > > > taken and will be taken as written in your 4 Step Book, as

> > > presented

> > > > > in my practical examples.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > tw

> > > > >

> > > > > <%

> 40><%

> > > 40>, " sunil

> > > > > gondhalekar "

> > > > > <sunilalaka@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear tw853,

> > > > > > i have joined this forum to share my experience in 4 step

> > > theory.

> > > > > > looking at the mail matters it seems that i will have to

> prove

> > > the

> > > > > theory

> > > > > > before forum.i dont need it to prove before forum as it

is

> > > proved

> > > > > since

> > > > > > 10-12 yrs or more.

> > > > > > so i decided to become silent member of this group.

> > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > -sunil gondhalekar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 9/12/07, Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Tw853

> > > > > > > The 7th aspect cannot be taken into consideration, as

the

> > > same

> > > > > planet

> > > > > > > cannot signify opposite houses, indicating opp matters.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > *tw853 <tw853@>* wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4 STEP PRACTICAL EXAMPLE (1)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. CHART DATA

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar Basu, 21-07-1986, 07:15 AM, Kolkata, 22N32,

> 88E21,

> > > New

> > > > > KPA

> > > > > > > 23-34-45, Asc Le 02-42-34, Sun Dasa Bal 4Y-9M-29D.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. 4 STEP PRIMARY SIGNIFICATORS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Empty houses: 2, 6, 8, 10, 11

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Plts with no planets in their stars (+): Mo, Me, Ra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Plts in own stars (*): Ju, Ve, Sa

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Su Conj 12

> > > > > > > Ju Conj 8

> > > > > > > Ra Conj 9

> > > > > > > Ke Conj 3

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Su Aspt 6

> > > > > > > Ra Aspt 3

> > > > > > > Ke Aspt 9

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Plt Ke: Conj 3

> > > > > > > Stl of Ke is Ma: 5

> > > > > > > Sbl of Ke is Me+: 12-11

> > > > > > > Stl of Me is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Plt Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > > Sbl of Ve is Mo+: 5

> > > > > > > Stl of Mo is Su: 12-2; Asp 6; Conj 12

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Plt Su: Conj 12

> > > > > > > Stl of Su is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > > > Sbl of Su is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > > > Stl of Sa is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Plt Mo+: 5

> > > > > > > Stl of Mo is Su: 12-2; Asp 6; Conj 12

> > > > > > > Sbl of Mo is Ra+: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp 3; Cnj 9

> > > > > > > Stl of Ra is Ke: 3; Sgl Ve(1, 10); Stl Ma(5); Asp 9;

> Conj 3

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Planet Ma:

> > > > > > > Stl of Ma is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > > Sbl of Ma is Ju*: 7; Conj 8

> > > > > > > Stl of Ju is Ju*: 7; Cnj 8

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Plt Ra+: 9; Sgl Ma(5); Asp 3; Conj 9

> > > > > > > Stl of Ra is Ke: 3; Sgl Ve(1-10); Stl Ma(5); Asp 9;

Conj

> 3

> > > > > > > Sbl of Ra is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Plt Ju*: 7; Conj 8

> > > > > > > Stl of Ju is Ju*: 7; Conj 8

> > > > > > > Sbl of Ju is Su: Conj 12

> > > > > > > Stl of Su is Sa*: 4; 6-8

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Plt Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > > > Stl of Sa is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > > > Sbl of Sa is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Plt Me+: 12-11

> > > > > > > Stl of Me is Sa*: 4-6-8

> > > > > > > Sbl of Me is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > > Stl of Ve is Ve*: 1-10

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. 7TH CUSP SUBLORD

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > a)It is Ve signyfing 5-2 and so marraige is promised.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > b)RPs, 10-09-2007, 08:47:18 AM, 39N05, 77E09 (GMT-

05:00)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna Lord = Me

> > > > > > > Mo's Stl = Ke

> > > > > > > Mo's Sgl = Su

> > > > > > > Day Lord = Mo

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > c) Ve is not in the RPs and so Ke in the RPs is taken

as

> 7th

> > > cusp

> > > > > > > sbl. Marriage is promised as Ke signifies 5-11-8.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. CURRENT RUNNING DASA

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > a) The current running dasa is Ma (20-05-2001 to 20-05-

> 2008.

> > > > > > > Marriage is possible as Ma signifies 7-8.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > b)The previous Bhukti is Ve, ie. Ma-Ve DB (12-04-2006

to

> 12-

> > > 06-

> > > > > 2007.

> > > > > > > Bhukti lord Ve signifie 5-2 and so it it is capable of

> > > marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > c) The chain signification of 2-7-11 & 5-8 would be

> complete

> > > > > during

> > > > > > > the DBA of Ma-Ve-Ke (18-05-2007 to 12-06-2007) because

> the

> > > > > missing

> > > > > > > link of 11 is signified by the Antara lord Ke.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. TRANSIT

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The transit had agreed with the DBA during the period

of

> > > June 10-

> > > > > 12,

> > > > > > > 2007 while Ma was transiting in Me star, Ve in Sa star

> and

> > > Ke in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > sub of Mo, which signify marriage related houses in the

> > > first 2

> > > > > > > steps and were not in retrograde.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6. RESULT

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nothing happened in respect of marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 7. FUTURE PROSPECT

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ma-Su DB (12-06-2007 to 18-10-2007) is capable of

> marriage by

> > > > > > > signifying 8.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ma-Mo DB (19-10-2007 to 20-05-2008) is capable of

> marriage by

> > > > > > > signifying 2,5.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ra (Maha) Dasa (21-05-2008 to 20-05-2026) will deny

> marriage

> > > > > because

> > > > > > > it signifies only 1-10 in the 3rd and 4 th step.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P.S.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As per Shri Kuppu Ganapathi's matching for marriage as

> per KP

> > > > > > > principles of Ghaskar Basu and the Girl, 17-06-1986,

> 10:15

> > > PM,

> > > > > > > Kolkata, it is not recommendable because the crierion

10

> > > (whether

> > > > > > > the period lords now operating in both charts indicate

> > > > > desirability

> > > > > > > of matching for marriage)is only 41.67%, although the

> overall

> > > > > > > matching score is 70.83%.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <%

> 40><%

> > > 40><%

> > > > > 40>, bhaskar

> > > > > > > basu <bsbhskr@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > hi,prasadgoud thanks for ur reply.but u told me to

> change

> > > my

> > > > > > > attitude......i didn't understand that........in what

> sense

> > > did u

> > > > > > > tell me to change my attitude????i mean which attitude

> > > should i

> > > > > > > change???plzzz make me clear abt this......thanking u

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > prasadgoud77 <prasadgoud77@>

> > > > > > > wrote: -

> > > > > > > > -- In <%

> 40><%

> > > 40><%

> > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair

> > > > > > > > <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > This chart indicates LOve failures .Its life time.I m

> > > > > > > requesting u

> > > > > > > > to deviate u r self from Love .Try to concentrate on

u

> r

> > > career

> > > > > > > > life.There is no way getting succeed in u r love in

u r

> > > life

> > > > > > > time.

> > > > > > > > U have to change u r attitude.i know its

difficult,but

> its

> > > part

> > > > > > > of life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > varaprasad

> > > > > > > > > Dear Sir

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > black spot on the nose indicates person is but

> cunning,

> > > > > > > adjusts

> > > > > > > > according to situation, may attempt to tell even

lies

> to

> > > come

> > > > > out

> > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > > cornered etc.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > these are some of the analysis of this feature.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > MK viswanath

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > bsbhskr <bsbhskr@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > > > my DOB is 21.7.1986,POB is calcutta and TOB is

> > > > > 7.15A.M.so <http://7.15a.m.so/> <http://7.15a.m.so/><

> > > http://7.15a.m.so/>far i

> > > > > > > > > have proposed to 4 girls but everyone rejected

me.i'm

> > > really

> > > > > > > > > distressed and sad.i'm in love with a girl now who

is

> > > very

> > > > > > > beautiful

> > > > > > > > > with a fair complexion and she has a black spot in

> her

> > > > > nose.so

> > > > > > > i want

> > > > > > > > > to know can any one help me to tell that whether

she

> will

> > > > > > > accept my

> > > > > > > > > love if i propose to her???plzzzzzzz help me.i

dont

> want

> > > to

> > > > > get

> > > > > > > > > rejected again.i consulted many astrologers who

told

> that

> > > > > love

> > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > come from 30.4.06 to 30.6.07 during this time but

> still

> > > > > nothing

> > > > > > > had

> > > > > > > > > happened.plzz help me

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September 20, 2007

Dear Sunil SirRegardsI read your Marathi 4step books 5/6 yrs back. I think that time no English books on 4steps were available. Initially you only taught us during workshops.then we read the books.I just want to ask you few points, plz clear when u get time.

1.I never read about node's 7th aspect in 4step Marathi books,so why in English book? 2.Also you taught us to take Aspect as 5th order of significator as in k p and only to be taken when primary significators are not there. We all 4step students are very clear in that.

3. Also we take RP for selection of Vidasha when doubt & to correct the sub lord of the house in query.Its can be any body's choice when to use RP. But there is no change in rules 4.I remember you also taught us the the aspect on empty house is very strong. 5.Regarding cuspal planet within 3.20

degree and their strength,What I read in book review in mail here,regarding cuspal planet, I tried to read it and what I could understand is ( If I am wrong in understanding the same you can guide me) KSK wrote in Reader IV,pg 108= In short,

7th star lord and sub lord both is Rahu which is near the 11th cusp, in its own star. Shani lord of 2,aspect Rahu. Rahu in own star in shukra sign lord of 11 so is signficator of 11 and in sub of Budh in 7. He didnt clearly mentioned that Rahu is signficator of 11th because its at 11th cusp. He didn't make it as a rule of cuspal planet & didn't say Rahu is the significator of 11 because its near 11th cusp.

Sir I dont understand why so much of confusion/ and negative discussion regarding 4step with " step " behavior when we find it so useful Its really disgusting. I feel there may be some mistake in your English book and it may be due to printing or translation fault. I don't know exactly as I didn't see your English book.You just recheck it.Plz sir clear this if you feel okey and don't mind what others are say and take care of your high BP.Every body knows no method is giving 100% correct answers and that is why so much of research. There are many of your student who believe 4step as a simple and well organized form of k p.

Cuspal sublord is still the corner stone in kp. But at the same time all are aware of the article by Mr Subramaniyam " sublord speaks " in k p astro jeournels, which gave new approach to study the planetory sub lord and is the base of 4step theory.

On the contrary I read some books, they have used all the basics of KSK

guruji and with little modification and under new headlines and write

as their new invention.They didnt give any credit to KSK guruji, I feel

its total injustice to KSK. I think you are ethically write as it has

all basics of kp with little modification with good intension of

getting good results.RegardsDr SheetalOn 9/17/07, tw853 <tw853 wrote: