Guest guest Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Dear All, 1. The chart given below is the typical example of marriage denial as per Guruji KSK's saying in KP Reader IV, page 109, If Sani has no connection with houses 2,7 and 11 but only trows its aspect, this portends denial and even disappointment. Male:DOB:24-10-1964 TOB:15.12 PLACE:PUNE Ref: 1) Msg# 14553 of this Group 2) Sunil Gondhalekar: " Marriage when?, English Translation in the link below, which appeared in the July-2006 issue of the Nakshatrache Dene http://www.astrouser.com/article_display.php?id=69 2. Moreover, 7th cusp sublod Venus is in the " decider " sublord of Moon, which is in 4th house and lord of 6th house. Thus marriage is denied as per KP. Reagrds, tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Dear twji, In the chart cited by you,the 7th cusp sub is Venus and Venus signifies 7th. Therefore, as per the basic guide- " the planet ruling the sub-division of the constellation on the cusp of the 7th house signifying 2nd,7th or 11th house promises marriage " - does not work in this case ? Does Saturn signifying negative houses for marriage or Saturn's aspects to 2-7 and 11 houses, in such cases, override the basic guide? I shall appreciate your and other members views on this. Hansraj. --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear All, > > 1. The chart given below is the typical example of > marriage denial > as per Guruji KSK's saying in KP Reader IV, page > 109, > > If Sani has no connection with houses 2,7 and 11 but > only trows its > aspect, this portends denial and even > disappointment. > > Male:DOB:24-10-1964 > TOB:15.12 > PLACE:PUNE > > Ref: > > 1) Msg# 14553 of this Group > 2) Sunil Gondhalekar: " Marriage when?, English > Translation in the > link below, which appeared in the July-2006 issue of > the > Nakshatrache Dene > http://www.astrouser.com/article_display.php?id=69 > > 2. Moreover, 7th cusp sublod Venus is in the > " decider " sublord of > Moon, which is in 4th house and lord of 6th house. > Thus marriage is > denied as per KP. > > Reagrds, > > tw > > > ______________________________\ ____ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 How do you conclude that it is a case of complete denial? He is male and his age is 43 only. There are enough time to get married. Saturn gives delay. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of hansraj vyas Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:39 PM Re: KP Answer for Marriage Denial Dear twji, In the chart cited by you,the 7th cusp sub is Venus and Venus signifies 7th. Therefore, as per the basic guide- " the planet ruling the sub-division of the constellation on the cusp of the 7th house signifying 2nd,7th or 11th house promises marriage " - does not work in this case ? Does Saturn signifying negative houses for marriage or Saturn's aspects to 2-7 and 11 houses, in such cases, override the basic guide? I shall appreciate your and other members views on this. Hansraj. --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear All, > > 1. The chart given below is the typical example of > marriage denial > as per Guruji KSK's saying in KP Reader IV, page > 109, > > If Sani has no connection with houses 2,7 and 11 but > only trows its > aspect, this portends denial and even > disappointment. > > Male:DOB:24-10-1964 > TOB:15.12 > PLACE:PUNE > > Ref: > > 1) Msg# 14553 of this Group > 2) Sunil Gondhalekar: " Marriage when?, English > Translation in the > link below, which appeared in the July-2006 issue of > the > Nakshatrache Dene > http://www.astrouser.com/article_display.php?id=69 > > 2. Moreover, 7th cusp sublod Venus is in the > " decider " sublord of > Moon, which is in 4th house and lord of 6th house. > Thus marriage is > denied as per KP. > > Reagrds, > > tw > > > ______________________ ____________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Dear Hansraj ji, This is a KP special rule. Please see the " KP Answer " in the " 4 Step Practical Example (4) " regarding two KP special rules of delay and denial of marriage. Regards, tw , hansraj vyas <hansraj_vyas wrote: > > Dear twji, > In the chart cited by you,the 7th cusp sub is > Venus and Venus signifies 7th. Therefore, as per the > basic guide- " the planet ruling the sub-division of > the constellation on the cusp of the 7th house > signifying 2nd,7th or 11th house promises marriage " - > does not work in this case ? Does Saturn signifying > negative houses for marriage or Saturn's aspects to > 2-7 and 11 houses, in such cases, override the basic > guide? I shall appreciate your and other members views > on this. Hansraj. > > --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > 1. The chart given below is the typical example of > > marriage denial > > as per Guruji KSK's saying in KP Reader IV, page > > 109, > > > > If Sani has no connection with houses 2,7 and 11 but > > only trows its > > aspect, this portends denial and even > > disappointment. > > > > Male:DOB:24-10-1964 > > TOB:15.12 > > PLACE:PUNE > > > > Ref: > > > > 1) Msg# 14553 of this Group > > 2) Sunil Gondhalekar: " Marriage when?, English > > Translation in the > > link below, which appeared in the July-2006 issue of > > the > > Nakshatrache Dene > > http://www.astrouser.com/article_display.php?id=69 > > > > 2. Moreover, 7th cusp sublod Venus is in the > > " decider " sublord of > > Moon, which is in 4th house and lord of 6th house. > > Thus marriage is > > denied as per KP. > > > > Reagrds, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ _______________ > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 1. This is not mine. It's as per Guruji KSK's special rule mentioned in the " KP Answer " in the 4 Step Practical Example (4). The answer will be the same for the native whether it were asked just after the birth or at the age 43. It's interesting that you're satisfied with Sunil ji's conclusion but not as per Guruji KSK. Regards, tw , " Suprakash Ghosh " <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > > How do you conclude that it is a case of complete denial? He is male and > his age is 43 only. There are enough time to get married. > Saturn gives delay. > > Regards > > Suprakash > > > On > Behalf Of hansraj vyas > Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:39 PM > > Re: KP Answer for Marriage Denial > > Dear twji, > In the chart cited by you,the 7th cusp sub is > Venus and Venus signifies 7th. Therefore, as per the > basic guide- " the planet ruling the sub-division of > the constellation on the cusp of the 7th house > signifying 2nd,7th or 11th house promises marriage " - > does not work in this case ? Does Saturn signifying > negative houses for marriage or Saturn's aspects to > 2-7 and 11 houses, in such cases, override the basic > guide? I shall appreciate your and other members views > on this. Hansraj. > > --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > 1. The chart given below is the typical example of > > marriage denial > > as per Guruji KSK's saying in KP Reader IV, page > > 109, > > > > If Sani has no connection with houses 2,7 and 11 but > > only trows its > > aspect, this portends denial and even > > disappointment. > > > > Male:DOB:24-10-1964 > > TOB:15.12 > > PLACE:PUNE > > > > Ref: > > > > 1) Msg# 14553 of this Group > > 2) Sunil Gondhalekar: " Marriage when?, English > > Translation in the > > link below, which appeared in the July-2006 issue of > > the > > Nakshatrache Dene > > http://www.astrouser.com/article_display.php?id=69 > > > > 2. Moreover, 7th cusp sublod Venus is in the > > " decider " sublord of > > Moon, which is in 4th house and lord of 6th house. > > Thus marriage is > > denied as per KP. > > > > Reagrds, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ ___ > ____________ > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 dear twji, it is very clear from this mail reply that you dont want my conlusion and still insisting to reply from me? thanks -sunil gondhalekar On 9/14/07, tw853 <tw853 wrote: 1. This is not mine. It's as per Guruji KSK's special rule mentioned in the " KP Answer " in the 4 Step Practical Example (4). The answer will be the same for the native whether it were asked just after the birth or at the age 43. It's interesting that you're satisfied with Sunil ji's conclusion but not as per Guruji KSK.Regards,tw , " Suprakash Ghosh " <suprakash.ghosh wrote:>> How do you conclude that it is a case of complete denial? He is male and> his age is 43 only. There are enough time to get married. > Saturn gives delay.> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > On> Behalf Of hansraj vyas > Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:39 PM> > Re: KP Answer for Marriage Denial > > Dear twji, > In the chart cited by you,the 7th cusp sub is> Venus and Venus signifies 7th. Therefore, as per the> basic guide- " the planet ruling the sub-division of> the constellation on the cusp of the 7th house > signifying 2nd,7th or 11th house promises marriage " -> does not work in this case ? Does Saturn signifying> negative houses for marriage or Saturn's aspects to> 2-7 and 11 houses, in such cases, override the basic > guide? I shall appreciate your and other members views> on this. Hansraj.> > --- tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > > Dear All,> > > > 1. The chart given below is the typical example of> > marriage denial > > as per Guruji KSK's saying in KP Reader IV, page> > 109,> > > > If Sani has no connection with houses 2,7 and 11 but> > only trows its > > aspect, this portends denial and even > > disappointment.> > > > Male:DOB:24-10-1964> > TOB:15.12> > PLACE:PUNE> > > > Ref:> > > > 1) Msg# 14553 of this Group> > 2) Sunil Gondhalekar: " Marriage when?, English > > Translation in the > > link below, which appeared in the July-2006 issue of> > the > > Nakshatrache Dene> > http://www.astrouser.com/article_display.php?id=69> > > > 2. Moreover, 7th cusp sublod Venus is in the> > " decider " sublord of > > Moon, which is in 4th house and lord of 6th house. > > Thus marriage is > > denied as per KP. > > > > Reagrds,> > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > ________ ___> ____________> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Dear tw ji, I am seeking your views in context of KP Reader-IV pages-108-109.Let us not go by 4 step theory.The question is- Will marriage be denied in a case where 7th sub promises it but Saturn either signifies negative houses for the marriage or aspects 2,7,11 houses in the chart ? Hansraj. --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Hansraj ji, > > This is a KP special rule. Please see the " KP > Answer " in the " 4 Step > Practical Example (4) " regarding two KP special > rules of delay and > denial of marriage. > > Regards, > > tw > > > , hansraj vyas > <hansraj_vyas > wrote: > > > > Dear twji, > > In the chart cited by you,the 7th cusp > sub is > > Venus and Venus signifies 7th. Therefore, as per > the > > basic guide- " the planet ruling the sub-division > of > > the constellation on the cusp of the 7th house > > signifying 2nd,7th or 11th house promises > marriage " - > > does not work in this case ? Does Saturn > signifying > > negative houses for marriage or Saturn's aspects > to > > 2-7 and 11 houses, in such cases, override the > basic > > guide? I shall appreciate your and other members > views > > on this. Hansraj. > > > > --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > 1. The chart given below is the typical example > of > > > marriage denial > > > as per Guruji KSK's saying in KP Reader IV, page > > > 109, > > > > > > If Sani has no connection with houses 2,7 and 11 > but > > > only trows its > > > aspect, this portends denial and even > > > disappointment. > > > > > > Male:DOB:24-10-1964 > > > TOB:15.12 > > > PLACE:PUNE > > > > > > Ref: > > > > > > 1) Msg# 14553 of this Group > > > 2) Sunil Gondhalekar: " Marriage when?, English > > > Translation in the > > > link below, which appeared in the July-2006 > issue of > > > the > > > Nakshatrache Dene > > > > http://www.astrouser.com/article_display.php?id=69 > > > > > > 2. Moreover, 7th cusp sublod Venus is in the > > > " decider " sublord of > > > Moon, which is in 4th house and lord of 6th > house. > > > Thus marriage is > > > denied as per KP. > > > > > > Reagrds, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > _______________ > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Dear friends, Just a hint from traditional astrology. If Native is born between 15:9:14 or slightly before then Marriage is denied for him. I have taken DOB 24 oct 1964 TOB 15:09:14 POB Pune. If this data is possible and nearly correct for the native in question Than Native ought to have very little inclination to religious outlook in life but will have sweet behaviour. Hope if rider applies denial also applies. Such question are better varified by Horary.I undestand Rectification and varification of Birth data has not been done. With best wishes. Following are the calculation for Time taken as PER KP . Body/Cusp Nakshatra lord Sub lord Prati-sub As Ra Me Mo Sa Su Ra Ra Me Ju Mo Mo Ve Mo Ke Ma Me Sa Ju Me Me Ra Me Mo Me Ju Su Ra Me Sa Ve Su Mo Su Ve Sa Ma Su Ju Me Ra Ma Ke Ju Sa Ke Ke Ve Sa Ve Ur Ve Ju Ju Sa Ne Ju Sa Ju Me 1st house Ra Me Mo Sa 2nd house Me Ve Ju Me 3rd house Ve Sa Ke Sa 4th house Mo Ke Ke Ve 5th house Ra Ke Ra Ra 6th house Sa Mo Ju Ra 7th house Ve Ve Ve Mo 8th house Mo Ve Ve Ma 9th house Ju Sa Ve Mo 10th house Me Ve Ve Me 11th house Ve Ve Sa Sa 12th house Mo Ma Sa Mo OM TAT SAT - tw853 Friday, September 14, 2007 5:40 PM Re: KP Answer for Marriage Denial 1. This is not mine. It's as per Guruji KSK's special rule mentioned in the "KP Answer" in the 4 Step Practical Example (4). The answer will be the same for the native whether it were asked just after the birth or at the age 43. It's interesting that you're satisfied with Sunil ji's conclusion but not as per Guruji KSK.Regards,tw , "Suprakash Ghosh" <suprakash.ghosh wrote:>> How do you conclude that it is a case of complete denial? He is male and> his age is 43 only. There are enough time to get married.> Saturn gives delay.> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > On> Behalf Of hansraj vyas> Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:39 PM> > Re: KP Answer for Marriage Denial> > Dear twji, > In the chart cited by you,the 7th cusp sub is> Venus and Venus signifies 7th. Therefore, as per the> basic guide-" the planet ruling the sub-division of> the constellation on the cusp of the 7th house> signifying 2nd,7th or 11th house promises marriage"-> does not work in this case ? Does Saturn signifying> negative houses for marriage or Saturn's aspects to> 2-7 and 11 houses, in such cases, override the basic> guide? I shall appreciate your and other members views> on this. Hansraj.> > --- tw853 <tw853 wrote:> > > Dear All,> > > > 1. The chart given below is the typical example of> > marriage denial > > as per Guruji KSK's saying in KP Reader IV, page> > 109,> > > > If Sani has no connection with houses 2,7 and 11 but> > only trows its > > aspect, this portends denial and even> > disappointment.> > > > Male:DOB:24-10-1964> > TOB:15.12> > PLACE:PUNE> > > > Ref:> > > > 1) Msg# 14553 of this Group> > 2) Sunil Gondhalekar: "Marriage when?, English> > Translation in the > > link below, which appeared in the July-2006 issue of> > the > > Nakshatrache Dene> > http://www.astrouser.com/article_display.php?id=69> > > > 2. Moreover, 7th cusp sublod Venus is in the> > "decider" sublord of > > Moon, which is in 4th house and lord of 6th house.> > Thus marriage is > > denied as per KP. > > > > Reagrds,> > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > ___________> ____________> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing./> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Dear Tinwin ji My intention is nither to support Sunilji nor to support you. My comment was plain and simple..why waste time over a chart ,the result of which is not yet known ? After all,we are here to learn something and no theory is complete..not even KP. Regards Suprakash , " tw853 " <tw853 wrote: > > 1. This is not mine. It's as per Guruji KSK's special rule mentioned > in the " KP Answer " in the 4 Step Practical Example (4). The answer > will be the same for the native whether it were asked just after the > birth or at the age 43. > > It's interesting that you're satisfied with Sunil ji's conclusion > but not as per Guruji KSK. > > Regards, > > tw > > > > , " Suprakash Ghosh " > <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > How do you conclude that it is a case of complete denial? He is > male and > > his age is 43 only. There are enough time to get married. > > Saturn gives delay. > > > > Regards > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > On > > Behalf Of hansraj vyas > > Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:39 PM > > > > Re: KP Answer for Marriage Denial > > > > Dear twji, > > In the chart cited by you,the 7th cusp sub is > > Venus and Venus signifies 7th. Therefore, as per the > > basic guide- " the planet ruling the sub-division of > > the constellation on the cusp of the 7th house > > signifying 2nd,7th or 11th house promises marriage " - > > does not work in this case ? Does Saturn signifying > > negative houses for marriage or Saturn's aspects to > > 2-7 and 11 houses, in such cases, override the basic > > guide? I shall appreciate your and other members views > > on this. Hansraj. > > > > --- tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > 1. The chart given below is the typical example of > > > marriage denial > > > as per Guruji KSK's saying in KP Reader IV, page > > > 109, > > > > > > If Sani has no connection with houses 2,7 and 11 but > > > only trows its > > > aspect, this portends denial and even > > > disappointment. > > > > > > Male:DOB:24-10-1964 > > > TOB:15.12 > > > PLACE:PUNE > > > > > > Ref: > > > > > > 1) Msg# 14553 of this Group > > > 2) Sunil Gondhalekar: " Marriage when?, English > > > Translation in the > > > link below, which appeared in the July-2006 issue of > > > the > > > Nakshatrache Dene > > > http://www.astrouser.com/article_display.php?id=69 > > > > > > 2. Moreover, 7th cusp sublod Venus is in the > > > " decider " sublord of > > > Moon, which is in 4th house and lord of 6th house. > > > Thus marriage is > > > denied as per KP. > > > > > > Reagrds, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > ___ > > ____________ > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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