Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 dear hardeepji, you have asked me on your own mail-id and not in forum. so excuse me -sunil gondhalekar hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote: dear sunil ji, it is open forum. your comments will be welcomed. so please tell us your opinion. why to shy. but if you think you have logic then please tell me. hs nagi sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: dear hardeepji, if i comment on it you will say dont play with words cleverly, so no comment -sunil gondhalekar hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote: dear sunil dont play with words cleverly to prove 4 steps correct. the somebody was belongs to the party of candidate. so tell me if there is any rule for tasking 9th house as lagna for a party man.? here do you have any explanation? here is another example for you. one lady asks me whether she will continue do job or forced to quit? i have done it on 17-9-2005 at 8:9 AM at Ludhiana. she gave number 25. as per 1-2 steps i told her that she will be forced to leave. how? 6th cusp sub lorsd is jupiter. jupiter is in star of mars in 12 as lord of 7. i predicted she will leave. and she was forced to resign. where as look into 4 step. jupiter is in its own sub. jupiter is in 6. no planet in jupiter star so signifying prime house 6 strongly. it should not allow her to resign. but she did. so what will you say now mr sunil? regards hs nagi regards hs nagi sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: dear hardeepji, i have read your mail.you have mentioned that somebody has given number and not by candidate itself.so you have to rotate the chart to 9 th house in this rotated chart,6th sub is mercury,it's signification as per 4 step theory as follows: Mercury:-------------- it's star-Saturn-8-2 it's sub-Mars-5-12 Mar's star-Sun-8 this signification shows clearcut defeat. i hope this will be clear. -sunil gondhalekar hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote: dear sunil ji, in ludhiana today MC's elections were held. somebody gave me number 15 for a victory of candidate. i calculated on 8-8-2007 at 5-22 AM, at Ludhiana. instep 1 and 2 clearly indicated defeat of the candidate, where as step 3 and step 4 shows clear victory. 6th cusp sub lord venus is in 5 as lord of 2 and 7 venus is in the star of ketu again in 5. i predicted defeate for the candidate and it came true. where as venus is in sub of rahu in 11, in its own star. step 3 and 4 confirm victory. but it didnt happen. do you have any explanations? regards hs nagi sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: dear nagi, pl.send such cases which dont agrre with 3-4 steps it will be highly appreceated to study such cases thanks -sunil gondhalekar hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote: dear sunil ji, thanks for answering me but what about those cases where we got results with 2 step in spite of not agreeing of 3-4 steps. hs nagi sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: dear shri.nagi thanks for calling me and have a good discussion on 4 step. reading from your mail i presume that you dont want to give credit to me for 4 step theory.i have already mentioned that it is only krishnamurthy method but due to some conflict in basic rules i name it as 4 step theory.derivation of sub is a great invention by our guruji KSK and for that we always honour him. if we look significator on 2 step then validity of sub vanishes. on debate everybody ask me what about our answers that came correct after judging only 2 step.the answer is that 2 step are agrreing with 4 step. i am sending one natal to you.study with 2 step you wont get answer. there are so many such examples i found in my case studies. i hope you will opt for 4 step theory. sorry for writing it boldly. -sunil gondhalekar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 -- dear members, I present below another approach to KP system which will explain the question raised by sh gondhalekarji. The 7th house falls in venus star. Now there is no planet in venus hence venus becomes the important significator. Venus occupies leo and is in sun star. Venus in sun the potency of venus is reduced. Further retrogade jupiter in sun star will delay the effects of venus and retrograde jup in tarus again venus sign will further delay.Aspect of retrograde saturn will also one contributor for the delay.But the person will definitely get married when both jupiter and venus are in venus star and in trine to the natal venus ie first week of feb 2008 any takers for the above explanation? regards muralidaran ak - In , sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > > dear members, > mail subject is 4 step is doubtful > before clearing the doubt i will present one case > Male:DOB:24-10-1964 > TOB:15.12 > PLACE:PUNE > the person has not yet married.why jupiter dasa has not given > him marriage?even jupiter is lord of 11 and in star of sun-lord of 7 > i specially request mr.hardeepji to explain thr.1-2 steps > i also request members to read my comments given on hardeepji's mail > and request to comment. > -sunil gondhalekar > > bkhardeep <bkhardeep wrote: > dear hardeepji, > you have asked me on your own mail-id and not in forum. > so excuse me > -sunil gondhalekar > > hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote: > dear sunil ji, > it is open forum. your comments will be welcomed. > so please tell us your opinion. why to shy. but if you think you > have logic then please tell me. > hs nagi > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > dear hardeepji, > if i comment on it you will say dont play with words cleverly, > so no comment > -sunil gondhalekar > > hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote: > dear sunil > dont play with words cleverly to prove 4 steps correct. > the somebody was belongs to the party of candidate. > so tell me if there is any rule for tasking 9th house as lagna for a > party man.? > here do you have any explanation? > here is another example for you. > one lady asks me whether she will continue do job or forced to quit? > i have done it on 17-9-2005 at 8:9 AM at Ludhiana. > she gave number 25. > as per 1-2 steps i told her that she will be forced to leave. > how? > 6th cusp sub lorsd is jupiter. > jupiter is in star of mars in 12 as lord of 7. > i predicted she will leave. > and she was forced to resign. > where as look into 4 step. > jupiter is in its own sub. jupiter is in 6. no planet in jupiter > star so signifying prime house 6 strongly. it should not allow her > to resign. but she did. > so what will you say now mr sunil? > regards > hs nagi > > regards > hs nagi > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > dear hardeepji, > i have read your mail.you have mentioned that somebody has given > number > and not by candidate itself.so you have to rotate the chart to 9 th > house > in this rotated chart,6th sub is mercury,it's signification as per 4 > step theory as follows: > Mercury:-------------- > it's star-Saturn-8-2 > it's sub-Mars-5-12 > Mar's star-Sun-8 > this signification shows clearcut defeat. > i hope this will be clear. > -sunil gondhalekar > > hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote: > dear sunil ji, > in ludhiana today MC's elections were held. somebody gave me number > 15 for a victory of candidate. > i calculated on 8-8-2007 > at 5-22 AM, at Ludhiana. > instep 1 and 2 clearly indicated defeat of the candidate, where as > step 3 and step 4 shows clear victory. > 6th cusp sub lord venus is in 5 as lord of 2 and 7 > venus is in the star of ketu again in 5. > i predicted defeate for the candidate and it came true. > where as venus is in sub of rahu in 11, in its own star. step 3 and > 4 confirm victory. but it didnt happen. > do you have any explanations? > regards > hs nagi > > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > dear nagi, > pl.send such cases which dont agrre with 3-4 steps > it will be highly appreceated to study such cases > thanks > -sunil gondhalekar > > hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote: > dear sunil ji, > thanks for answering me but what about those cases where we got > results with 2 step in spite of not agreeing of 3-4 steps. > hs nagi > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > dear shri.nagi > thanks for calling me and have a good discussion on 4 step. > reading from your mail i presume that you dont want to give credit > to me > for 4 step theory.i have already mentioned that it is only > krishnamurthy method > but due to some conflict in basic rules i name it as 4 step > theory.derivation of sub > is a great invention by our guruji KSK and for that we always honour > him. > if we look significator on 2 step then validity of sub vanishes. > on debate everybody ask me what about our answers that came correct > after > judging only 2 step.the answer is that 2 step are agrreing with 4 > step. > i am sending one natal to you.study with 2 step you wont get answer. > there are so many such examples i found in my case studies. > i hope you will opt for 4 step theory. > sorry for writing it boldly. > -sunil gondhalekar > Sick sense of humor? 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Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 dear murlidharan ji, you have created more confusion. are you following cupal interlinked theory or 4 step or intermingling both of them? regards hs nagiakmuralidaran <akmuralidaran wrote: --dear members,I present below another approach to KP system which will explain thequestion raised by sh gondhalekarji.The 7th house falls in venus star. Now there is no planet in venushence venus becomes the important significator. Venus occupies leo andis in sun star. Venus in sun the potency of venus is reduced. Furtherretrogade jupiter in sun star will delay the effects of venus andretrograde jup in tarus again venus sign will further delay.Aspect ofretrograde saturn will also one contributor for the delay.But theperson will definitely get married when both jupiter and venus are invenus star and in trine to the natal venus ie first week of feb 2008any takers for the above explanation?regardsmuralidaran ak- In , sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote:>> dear members,> mail subject is 4 step is doubtful> before clearing the doubt i will present one case> Male:DOB:24-10-1964> TOB:15.12> PLACE:PUNE> the person has not yet married.why jupiter dasa has not given> him marriage?even jupiter is lord of 11 and in star of sun-lord of 7> i specially request mr.hardeepji to explain thr.1-2 steps> i also request members to read my comments given on hardeepji's mail> and request to comment.> -sunil gondhalekar> > bkhardeep <bkhardeep wrote:> dear hardeepji,> you have asked me on your own mail-id and not in forum.> so excuse me> -sunil gondhalekar> > hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote:> dear sunil ji,> it is open forum. your comments will be welcomed.> so please tell us your opinion. why to shy. but if you think you > have logic then please tell me.> hs nagi> > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote:> dear hardeepji,> if i comment on it you will say dont play with words cleverly,> so no comment> -sunil gondhalekar> > hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote:> dear sunil> dont play with words cleverly to prove 4 steps correct.> the somebody was belongs to the party of candidate.> so tell me if there is any rule for tasking 9th house as lagna for a > party man.?> here do you have any explanation?> here is another example for you.> one lady asks me whether she will continue do job or forced to quit?> i have done it on 17-9-2005 at 8:9 AM at Ludhiana.> she gave number 25.> as per 1-2 steps i told her that she will be forced to leave.> how?> 6th cusp sub lorsd is jupiter. > jupiter is in star of mars in 12 as lord of 7.> i predicted she will leave.> and she was forced to resign.> where as look into 4 step.> jupiter is in its own sub. jupiter is in 6. no planet in jupiter > star so signifying prime house 6 strongly. it should not allow her > to resign. but she did.> so what will you say now mr sunil?> regards> hs nagi> > regards> hs nagi> > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote:> dear hardeepji,> i have read your mail.you have mentioned that somebody has given > number> and not by candidate itself.so you have to rotate the chart to 9 th > house> in this rotated chart,6th sub is mercury,it's signification as per 4 > step theory as follows:> Mercury:--------------> it's star-Saturn-8-2> it's sub-Mars-5-12> Mar's star-Sun-8> this signification shows clearcut defeat.> i hope this will be clear.> -sunil gondhalekar> > hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote:> dear sunil ji,> in ludhiana today MC's elections were held. somebody gave me number > 15 for a victory of candidate.> i calculated on 8-8-2007> at 5-22 AM, at Ludhiana.> instep 1 and 2 clearly indicated defeat of the candidate, where as > step 3 and step 4 shows clear victory.> 6th cusp sub lord venus is in 5 as lord of 2 and 7> venus is in the star of ketu again in 5.> i predicted defeate for the candidate and it came true.> where as venus is in sub of rahu in 11, in its own star. step 3 and > 4 confirm victory. but it didnt happen.> do you have any explanations?> regards> hs nagi> > > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote:> dear nagi,> pl.send such cases which dont agrre with 3-4 steps> it will be highly appreceated to study such cases> thanks> -sunil gondhalekar> > hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote:> dear sunil ji,> thanks for answering me but what about those cases where we got > results with 2 step in spite of not agreeing of 3-4 steps.> hs nagi> > sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote:> dear shri.nagi> thanks for calling me and have a good discussion on 4 step.> reading from your mail i presume that you dont want to give credit > to me> for 4 step theory.i have already mentioned that it is only > krishnamurthy method> but due to some conflict in basic rules i name it as 4 step > theory.derivation of sub> is a great invention by our guruji KSK and for that we always honour > him.> if we look significator on 2 step then validity of sub vanishes.> on debate everybody ask me what about our answers that came correct > after> judging only 2 step.the answer is that 2 step are agrreing with 4 > step.> i am sending one natal to you.study with 2 step you wont get answer.> there are so many such examples i found in my case studies.> i hope you will opt for 4 step theory.> sorry for writing it boldly.> -sunil gondhalekar> > > > > > > > Sick sense of humor? 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