Childbirth query - continued

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Dear all Members and Vijay ji, This is really interesting from a research point of view where natal denies but horary promises. I think time will be the best judge. Please do keep track of this gentleman so that all future developments regarding his marriage and child birth is documented by us. No wonder, its high time that we start doing longitudinal research in astrology wherein we keep track of our predictions on each individual case by case basis and find common themes, patterns, modifications of rules et al. Vijay ji is right on track. Take care everybody. AndrewVijay Kumar <vk_51 wrote: Dear all, I refer my query posted to the forum a few days back regarding the possibility of childbirth for the native whose birth data was as follows : Male 28 Feb 1982, 23 05 Hrs IST Kangra (Himachal Pradesh) ------------- I am thankful to many scholars who have put forth their view points as follows : 01. Mr. Andrew Dutta observes the person to have low sperm counts and does not foresee childbirth destined to him. 02. Swami Srivastavaji observes even the denial of marriage to him. 03. Mr. Satish observes possibility of childbirth through prashna by TSP Apart from this, Ms. Sheetal, Mr. Ajay Pandav, Vishwanath and Raichur have put forth a few viewpoints on the application of various principles related to childbirth. ------------- On July, 19 the person again telephoned me to know, if I arrived at some firm opinion. I took that opportunity to take a horary number 15 from him for a focused question on childbirth. I did cast a chart of this number at Bangalore on July 20, 2007 at 15-02-32Hrs and noted as follows. Moon was placed in 5H, as such, the query was confirmed. 5th and 11th CSL was Saturn (11th lord) in the star of Ketu placed in 5H reasonably close to the 5th cusp. Till this point, the indication of childbirth was evident. Since, native runs the dasha of Moon-Saturn from 2-8-2009 to

2-3-2011, I saw this time to be fairly fruitful for childbirth. I did not look further but was hopeful of positive outcome. -------------- I would sincerely request scholars to give their views on this case taking stock of both natal and horary charts, which seems to be an interesting case for study. Since, the horary number is now available, someone could as well evaluate it from their

perspective. I would specially request Shri Gondhalekar, Raichur and Kanak to evaluate both the birth and horary chart and guide us with their findings. Thanks for your efforts in advance, Vijay Kumar Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles.Visit the Auto Green Center. Dr. Andrew

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Dear Shri Vijay Kumar Saab My humble opinion is that if the natal chart is available, why should we consider a horary chart. This was clarified in the KP International Summit in Hyderabad on 14 and 15 July 2007 that the result of the natal chart and the horary chart with reference to a particular event should be one and the same. If natal chart gives positive result, horary chart also should give the same result. With due regards. Mk ViswanathVijay Kumar <vk_51 wrote: Dear all, I refer my query posted to the forum a few days back regarding the possibility of childbirth for the native whose birth data was as follows : Male 28 Feb 1982, 23 05 Hrs IST Kangra (Himachal Pradesh) ------------- I am thankful to many scholars who have put forth their view points as follows : 01. Mr. Andrew Dutta

observes the person to have low sperm counts and does not foresee childbirth destined to him. 02. Swami Srivastavaji observes even the denial of marriage to him. 03. Mr. Satish observes possibility of childbirth through prashna by TSP Apart from this, Ms. Sheetal, Mr. Ajay Pandav, Vishwanath and Raichur have put forth a few viewpoints on the application of various principles related to childbirth. ------------- On July, 19 the person again telephoned me to know, if I arrived at some firm opinion. I took that opportunity to take a horary number 15 from him for a focused question on childbirth. I did cast a chart of this number at Bangalore on July 20, 2007 at 15-02-32Hrs and

noted as follows. Moon was placed in 5H, as such, the query was confirmed. 5th and 11th CSL was Saturn (11th lord) in the star of Ketu placed in 5H reasonably close to the 5th cusp. Till this point, the indication of childbirth was evident. Since, native runs the dasha of Moon-Saturn from 2-8-2009 to 2-3-2011, I saw this time to be fairly fruitful for childbirth. I did not look further but was hopeful of positive outcome. -------------- I would sincerely request scholars to give their views on this case taking stock of both natal and horary charts, which seems to be an interesting case for study. Since, the horary number is now available, someone could as well evaluate it from their perspective. I would specially request Shri Gondhalekar, Raichur and Kanak to evaluate both the birth and horary chart and guide us with their findings. Thanks for your efforts in advance, Vijay Kumar Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles.Visit the Auto Green Center.

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Sir I think this is perfect analayis of the situation. Regards MK Viswanath hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote: dear vijay ji, you are very experienced astrologer, though you have asked kanak, gondhlekar and raichur to confirm it, but due to curiosity i take up chart as under 5 and 11th sub lord is saturn, saturn is in leo which is barren sign , placesd in 4th house. now look who is

the starlord of saturn. it is ketu , ketu is in 5th now we have to look what ketu hold for 5th house. ketu is in star of venus which is in 4, again ketu is a node. nodes will give results of planet who are conjoined with them. here venus and saturn are conjoined with ketu. both are in ketu star. ketu in 5. ketu is in sign of sun which is in star of saturn in 4. this leaqds me to judge as there can be pregnancy but it will not be fruitful, it will not be matured. it will be aborted. so no child. hs nagiVijay Kumar <vk_51 > wrote: Dear all, I refer my query posted to the forum a few days back regarding the possibility of childbirth for the native whose birth data was as follows : Male 28 Feb 1982, 23 05 Hrs IST Kangra (Himachal Pradesh) ------------- I am thankful to many scholars who have put forth their view points as follows : 01. Mr. Andrew Dutta observes the person to have low sperm counts and does not foresee childbirth destined to him. 02. Swami Srivastavaji observes even the denial of marriage to him. 03. Mr. Satish observes possibility of childbirth through prashna by TSP Apart from this, Ms. Sheetal, Mr. Ajay Pandav, Vishwanath and Raichur have put forth a few viewpoints on the application of various principles related to childbirth. ------------- On July, 19 the person again telephoned me to know, if I arrived at some firm opinion. I took that opportunity to take a horary number 15 from him for a focused question on childbirth. I did cast a chart of this number at Bangalore on July 20, 2007 at 15-02-32Hrs and noted as follows. Moon was placed in 5H, as such, the query was confirmed. 5th and 11th CSL was Saturn (11th lord) in the star of Ketu placed in 5H reasonably close to the 5th cusp. Till this point, the indication of childbirth was evident. Since, native runs the dasha of Moon-Saturn from 2-8-2009 to 2-3-2011, I saw this time to be fairly fruitful for childbirth. I did not look further but was hopeful of positive outcome. -------------- I would sincerely request scholars to give their views on this case taking stock of both natal and horary charts, which seems to be an interesting case for study. Since, the horary number is now available, someone could as well evaluate it from their perspective. I would specially request Shri Gondhalekar, Raichur and Kanak to evaluate both the birth and horary chart and guide us with their findings. Thanks for your efforts in advance, Vijay Kumar Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles.Visit the Auto Green Center. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out.

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Dear Vijay Kumar I re-did youu Horary chart for date time given by you. Child birth is 5th governed by 5th house. 1. The Sign is Leo -- a Barren sign. 2. Cusp sub lord is Sat: He is in 4th, negative to 5th. Ketu, an abortive planet is in 5th. 3. 11th cusp is also sat. 4. Pluto is in Ketu Star who is in 5th, so as per Gonjdhalekars remarks, this house will give negative results. So the answer is obvious. Vijay Kumar <vk_51 wrote: Dear all, I refer my query posted to the forum a few days back regarding the possibility of childbirth for the native whose birth data was as follows : Male 28 Feb 1982, 23 05 Hrs IST Kangra (Himachal Pradesh) ------------- I am thankful to many scholars who have put forth their view points as follows : 01. Mr. Andrew Dutta observes the person to have low

sperm counts and does not foresee childbirth destined to him. 02. Swami Srivastavaji observes even the denial of marriage to him. 03. Mr. Satish observes possibility of childbirth through prashna by TSP Apart from this, Ms. Sheetal, Mr. Ajay Pandav, Vishwanath and Raichur have put forth a few viewpoints on the application of various principles related to childbirth. ------------- On July, 19 the person again telephoned me to know, if I arrived at some firm opinion. I took that opportunity to take a horary number 15 from him for a focused question on childbirth. I did cast a chart of this number at Bangalore on July 20, 2007 at 15-02-32Hrs and noted as

follows. Moon was placed in 5H, as such, the query was confirmed. 5th and 11th CSL was Saturn (11th lord) in the star of Ketu placed in 5H reasonably close to the 5th cusp. Till this point, the indication of childbirth was evident. Since, native runs the dasha of Moon-Saturn from 2-8-2009 to 2-3-2011, I saw this time to be fairly fruitful for childbirth. I did not look further but was hopeful of positive outcome. -------------- I would sincerely request scholars to give their views on this case taking stock of both natal and horary charts, which seems to be an interesting case for study. Since, the horary number is now available, someone could as well evaluate it from their perspective. I would specially request Shri Gondhalekar, Raichur and Kanak to evaluate both the birth and horary chart and guide us with their findings. Thanks for your efforts in advance, Vijay Kumar Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles.Visit the Auto Green Center.

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Dear Sh. Raichur ji,

 

Thanks for your looking into this case.

 

Your observation on pluto is interesting. I have no studies on trans-saturnine planets.

 

Does it mean that the star lord of pluto is always bad wherever it sits ? If yes, if it falls in the 6H, would it be good for health ?

 

Thanks,

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:30 PM

Re: Childbirth query - continued

 

 

 

Dear Vijay Kumar

I re-did youu Horary chart for date time given by you.

Child birth is 5th governed by 5th house.

1. The Sign is Leo -- a Barren sign.

2. Cusp sub lord is Sat: He is in 4th, negative to 5th. Ketu, an abortive planet is in 5th.

3. 11th cusp is also sat.

4. Pluto is in Ketu Star who is in 5th, so as per Gonjdhalekars remarks, this

house will give negative results.

So the answer is obvious.

Vijay Kumar <vk_51 > wrote:

 

 

 

Dear all,

 

I refer my query posted to the forum a few days back regarding the possibility of childbirth for the native whose birth data was as follows :

 

Male

28 Feb 1982, 23 05 Hrs IST

Kangra (Himachal Pradesh)

-------------

I am thankful to many scholars who have put forth their view points as follows :

 

01. Mr. Andrew Dutta observes the person to have low sperm counts and does not foresee childbirth destined to him.

02. Swami Srivastavaji observes even the denial of marriage to him.

03. Mr. Satish observes possibility of childbirth through prashna by TSP

 

Apart from this, Ms. Sheetal, Mr. Ajay Pandav, Vishwanath and Raichur have put forth a few viewpoints on the application of various principles related to childbirth.

-------------

On July, 19 the person again telephoned me to know, if I arrived at some firm opinion. I took that opportunity to take a horary number 15 from him for a focused question on childbirth.

 

I did cast a chart of this number at Bangalore on July 20, 2007 at 15-02-32Hrs and noted as follows.

 

 

Moon was placed in 5H, as such, the query was confirmed.

5th and 11th CSL was Saturn (11th lord) in the star of Ketu placed in 5H reasonably close to the 5th cusp. Till this point, the indication of childbirth was evident. Since, native runs the dasha of Moon-Saturn from 2-8-2009 to 2-3-2011, I saw this time to be fairly fruitful for childbirth.

 

I did not look further but was hopeful of positive outcome.

--------------

I would sincerely request scholars to give their views on this case taking stock of both natal and horary charts, which seems to be an interesting case for study. Since, the horary number is now available, someone could as well evaluate it from their perspective.

 

I would specially request Shri Gondhalekar, Raichur and Kanak to evaluate both the birth and horary chart and guide us with their findings.

 

Thanks for your efforts in advance,

 

 

Vijay Kumar

 

 

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Dear Vijay Kumar The remarks about Pluto, are from Sunil Gondhalekar, which I follow. It is difficult for us to verify, as we rarely get feedbacks. VK1608_gmail <vk1608 wrote: Dear Sh. Raichur ji, Thanks for your looking into this case. Your observation on pluto is interesting. I have no studies on trans-saturnine planets. Does it mean that the star lord of pluto is always bad wherever it sits ? If yes, if it falls in the 6H, would it be good for health ? Thanks, Vijay Kumar - Raichur-a-r Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:30 PM Re: Childbirth query - continued Dear Vijay Kumar I re-did youu Horary chart for date time given by you. Child birth is 5th governed by 5th house. 1. The Sign is Leo -- a Barren sign. 2. Cusp sub lord is Sat: He is in 4th, negative to 5th. Ketu, an abortive planet is in 5th. 3. 11th cusp is also sat. 4. Pluto is in Ketu Star who is in 5th, so as per Gonjdhalekars remarks, this house will give negative results. So the answer is obvious. Vijay Kumar <vk_51 > wrote: Dear all, I refer my query posted to the forum a few days back regarding the possibility of childbirth for the native whose birth data was as follows : Male 28 Feb 1982, 23 05 Hrs IST Kangra (Himachal Pradesh) ------------- I am thankful to many scholars who have put forth their view points as follows : 01.

Mr. Andrew Dutta observes the person to have low sperm counts and does not foresee childbirth destined to him. 02. Swami Srivastavaji observes even the denial of marriage to him. 03. Mr. Satish observes possibility of childbirth through prashna by TSP Apart from this, Ms. Sheetal, Mr. Ajay Pandav, Vishwanath and Raichur have put forth a few viewpoints on the application of various principles related to childbirth. ------------- On July, 19 the person again telephoned me to know, if I arrived at some firm opinion. I took that opportunity to take a horary number 15 from him for a focused question on childbirth. I did cast a chart of this number at Bangalore on July 20, 2007 at 15-02-32Hrs and noted as follows. Moon was placed in 5H, as such, the query was confirmed. 5th and 11th CSL was Saturn (11th lord) in the star of Ketu placed in 5H reasonably close to the 5th cusp. Till this point, the indication of childbirth was evident. Since, native runs the dasha of Moon-Saturn from 2-8-2009 to 2-3-2011, I saw this time to be fairly

fruitful for childbirth. I did not look further but was hopeful of positive outcome. -------------- I would sincerely request scholars to give their views on this case taking stock of both natal and horary charts, which seems to be an interesting case for study. Since, the horary number is now available, someone could as well evaluate it from their perspective. I would specially request Shri Gondhalekar, Raichur and Kanak to evaluate both the birth and horary chart and guide us with their findings. Thanks for your efforts in advance, Vijay Kumar Park yourself in front of a world of

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dear vijaykumar, i have got good examples related to pluto which i am going to present before forum after some days -sunil gondhalekarRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Vijay Kumar The remarks about Pluto, are from Sunil Gondhalekar, which I follow. It is difficult for us to verify, as we rarely get feedbacks. VK1608_gmail <vk1608 > wrote: Dear Sh. Raichur ji, Thanks for your looking into this case. Your observation on pluto is interesting. I have no studies on trans-saturnine planets. Does it mean that the star lord of pluto is always bad wherever it sits ? If yes, if it falls in the 6H, would it be good for health ? Thanks, Vijay Kumar - Raichur-a-r Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:30 PM Re: Childbirth query - continued Dear Vijay Kumar I re-did youu Horary chart for date time given by you. Child birth is 5th governed by 5th house. 1. The

Sign is Leo -- a Barren sign. 2. Cusp sub lord is Sat: He is in 4th, negative to 5th. Ketu, an abortive planet is in 5th. 3. 11th cusp is also sat. 4. Pluto is in Ketu Star who is in 5th, so as per Gonjdhalekars remarks, this house will give negative results. So the answer is obvious. Vijay Kumar <vk_51 > wrote: Dear all, I refer my query posted to the forum a few days back regarding the

possibility of childbirth for the native whose birth data was as follows : Male 28 Feb 1982, 23 05 Hrs IST Kangra (Himachal Pradesh) ------------- I am thankful to

many scholars who have put forth their view points as follows : 01. Mr. Andrew Dutta observes the person to have low sperm counts and does not foresee childbirth destined to him. 02. Swami Srivastavaji observes even the denial of marriage to him. 03. Mr. Satish observes possibility of childbirth through prashna by TSP Apart from this, Ms. Sheetal, Mr. Ajay Pandav, Vishwanath and Raichur have put forth a few viewpoints on the application of various principles related to childbirth. ------------- On July, 19 the person again telephoned me to know, if

I arrived at some firm opinion. I took that opportunity to take a horary number 15 from him for a focused question on childbirth. I did cast a chart of this number at Bangalore on July 20, 2007 at 15-02-32Hrs and noted as follows. Moon was placed in 5H, as such, the query was confirmed. 5th and 11th CSL was Saturn (11th lord) in the star of Ketu placed in 5H reasonably close to the 5th cusp. Till this point, the indication of childbirth was evident. Since, native runs the dasha of Moon-Saturn from 2-8-2009 to 2-3-2011, I saw this time to be fairly fruitful for childbirth. I did not look further but was hopeful of positive outcome. -------------- I would sincerely request scholars

to give their views on this case taking stock of both natal and horary charts, which seems to be an interesting case for study. Since, the horary number is now available, someone could as well evaluate it from their perspective. I would specially request Shri Gondhalekar, Raichur and Kanak to evaluate both the birth and horary chart and guide us with their findings. Thanks for your efforts in

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dear datta, my experience says that if natal indicates negative results then horary will not be useful,hence i used to predict only by natal. horary have got drawback that it is connected with both querent and astrologer's luck -sunil gondhalekarandrew dutta <andrewinfinitum wrote: Dear all Members and Vijay ji, This is really interesting from a research point of view where natal denies but horary promises. I think time will be the

best judge. Please do keep track of this gentleman so that all future developments regarding his marriage and child birth is documented by us. No wonder, its high time that we start doing longitudinal research in astrology wherein we keep track of our predictions on each individual case by case basis and find common themes, patterns, modifications of rules et al. Vijay ji is right on track. Take care everybody. AndrewVijay Kumar <vk_51 > wrote: Dear all, I refer my query posted to the forum a few days back regarding the possibility of childbirth for the native whose birth data was as follows : Male 28 Feb 1982, 23 05 Hrs IST Kangra (Himachal Pradesh) ------------- I am thankful to many scholars who have put forth their view points as follows : 01. Mr. Andrew Dutta observes the person to have low sperm counts and does not foresee childbirth destined to him. 02. Swami Srivastavaji observes even the denial of marriage to him. 03. Mr. Satish observes possibility of childbirth through prashna by TSP Apart from this, Ms. Sheetal, Mr. Ajay Pandav, Vishwanath and Raichur have put forth a few viewpoints on the application of various principles related to childbirth. ------------- On July, 19 the person again telephoned me to know, if I arrived at some firm opinion. I took that opportunity to take a horary number 15 from him for a focused question on childbirth. I did cast a chart of this number at Bangalore on July 20, 2007 at 15-02-32Hrs and noted as follows. Moon was placed in 5H, as such, the query was confirmed. 5th and 11th CSL was Saturn (11th lord) in the star of Ketu placed in 5H reasonably close to the 5th cusp. Till this point, the indication of childbirth was evident. Since, native runs the dasha of Moon-Saturn from 2-8-2009 to 2-3-2011, I saw this time to be fairly fruitful for childbirth. I did not look further but was hopeful of positive outcome. -------------- I would sincerely request scholars to give their views on this case taking stock of both natal and horary charts, which seems to be an interesting case for study. Since, the horary number is now available, someone could as well evaluate it from their perspective. I would specially request Shri Gondhalekar, Raichur and Kanak to evaluate both the birth and horary chart and guide us with their findings. Thanks for your efforts in advance, Vijay Kumar Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles.Visit the Auto Green Center. Dr. Andrew Dutta Faculty Member The ICFAI Business School, Survey Number 156/157, Dontanapally Village, Shankerpally Mandal, R.R. District. Andhra Pradesh 501 203. India Telephone (Direct): 0-0-92470 21036 Cell: 0-0-98666 20483 Vice President, KP Astrologers' Forum, India Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel.

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Respected Raichurji, Vijay Kumarji and Andrew ji,

 

As regards the horoscope of a girl, who is getting

married in coming period, and for her question of

child birth, her birth chart is prepared and studied

as per the details given by my friend mr vijay kumar.

My submissions is that the sublord of 5th house in her

horoscope is Venus, venus is placed in 5th house in

close conjunction with mercury, and ketu. Venus is

strong significator of 5,4,6,7,8,9,11,and 12 houses,

which is having both favourable and delay in getting

child to that lady. The houses 5 and 11 ( and 9, 5th

to 5th ) are favourable for having child, whereas,

4,6,12 houses are negative.

Presently, she is running venus dasha till 14-9-2008,

so i find the dasha is favourable for her for her

question of child.

 

 

With regards,

Ajay Pandav

 

 

 

--- Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

 

> Dear Vijay Kumar

> I checked child birth to the Lady, by 4 step

> method. The 5th sbl is not a RP, so the sbl may be

> one before or one after that indicated. In this

> chart all 3 Show definite birth of children.

> If you can get a horary Number from the lady, we

> can do further check.

> Good Luck . The Lat long of PALAMPUR H.P. are

> 32N07, 76E32.

>

>

> Vijay Kumar <vk_51 wrote:

> Dear Shri Duttaji and others,

>

> Thanks for your responses and views.

>

> In case if you are interested to know birth

> details of the girl with whom the native is getting

> married shortly for records, her data is as follows.

>

> Female

> 15-12-1982, 2029 Hrs IST, Palampur (HP)

>

> I would post any other details, if I come across.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Vijay Kumar

>

> andrew dutta <andrewinfinitum wrote:

> Dear all Members and Vijay ji,

> This is really interesting from a research point

> of view where natal denies but horary promises. I

> think time will be the best judge.

> Please do keep track of this gentleman so that all

> future developments regarding his marriage and child

> birth is documented by us.

>

> No wonder, its high time that we start doing

> longitudinal research in astrology wherein we keep

> track of our predictions on each individual case by

> case basis and find common themes, patterns,

> modifications of rules et al.

> Vijay ji is right on track.

>

> Take care everybody.

>

> Andrew

>

> Vijay Kumar <vk_51 wrote:

> Dear all,

>

> I refer my query posted to the forum a few days

> back regarding the possibility of childbirth for the

> native whose birth data was as follows :

>

> Male

> 28 Feb 1982, 23 05 Hrs IST

> Kangra (Himachal Pradesh)

> -------------

> I am thankful to many scholars who have put forth

> their view points as follows :

>

> 01. Mr. Andrew Dutta observes the person to have

> low sperm counts and does not foresee childbirth

> destined to him.

> 02. Swami Srivastavaji observes even the denial

> of marriage to him.

> 03. Mr. Satish observes possibility of

> childbirth through prashna by TSP

>

> Apart from this, Ms. Sheetal, Mr. Ajay Pandav,

> Vishwanath and Raichur have put forth a few

> viewpoints on the application of various principles

> related to childbirth.

> -------------

> On July, 19 the person again telephoned me to

> know, if I arrived at some firm opinion. I took that

> opportunity to take a horary number 15 from him for

> a focused question on childbirth.

>

> I did cast a chart of this number at Bangalore on

> July 20, 2007 at 15-02-32Hrs and noted as follows.

>

> Moon was placed in 5H, as such, the query was

> confirmed.

>

> 5th and 11th CSL was Saturn (11th lord) in the

> star of Ketu placed in 5H reasonably close to the

> 5th cusp.

> Till this point, the indication of childbirth was

> evident.

> Since, native runs the dasha of Moon-Saturn from

> 2-8-2009 to 2-3-2011, I saw this time to be fairly

> fruitful for childbirth.

>

> I did not look further but was hopeful of positive

> outcome.

> --------------

> I would sincerely request scholars to give their

> views on this case taking stock of both natal and

> horary charts, which seems to be an interesting case

> for study. Since, the horary number is now

> available, someone could as well evaluate it from

> their perspective.

>

> I would specially request Shri Gondhalekar,

> Raichur and Kanak to evaluate both the birth and

> horary chart and guide us with their findings.

>

> Thanks for your efforts in advance,

>

> Vijay Kumar

>

> Park yourself in front of a world of choices in

> alternative vehicles.

> Visit the Auto Green Center.

Dr. Andrew Dutta

> Faculty Member

>

> The ICFAI Business School,

> Survey Number 156/157,

> Dontanapally Village, Shankerpally Mandal,

> R.R. District. Andhra Pradesh 501 203. India

> Telephone (Direct): 0-0-92470 21036

> Cell: 0-0-98666 20483

>

> Vice President,

> KP Astrologers' Forum, India

>

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Dear Ajay Pandav,

 

You would have observed, Venus is in rapt

conjunction with Ketu and both are very close to 6th cusp, hence 6th

house significationa are more important.Further Sat is aspecting Ven..

Dasa of Venus is not fruitful.

With given parameters of birth details,child

birth apppears difficult.

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- In , Ajay Pandav <leojay5 wrote:

>

> Respected Raichurji, Vijay Kumarji and Andrew ji,

>

> As regards the horoscope of a girl, who is getting

> married in coming period, and for her question of

> child birth, her birth chart is prepared and studied

> as per the details given by my friend mr vijay kumar.

> My submissions is that the sublord of 5th house in her

> horoscope is Venus, venus is placed in 5th house in

> close conjunction with mercury, and ketu. Venus is

> strong significator of 5,4,6,7,8,9,11,and 12 houses,

> which is having both favourable and delay in getting

> child to that lady. The houses 5 and 11 ( and 9, 5th

> to 5th ) are favourable for having child, whereas,

> 4,6,12 houses are negative.

> Presently, she is running venus dasha till 14-9-2008,

> so i find the dasha is favourable for her for her

> question of child.

>

>

> With regards,

> Ajay Pandav

>

>

>

> --- Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

>

> > Dear Vijay Kumar

> > I checked child birth to the Lady, by 4 step

> > method. The 5th sbl is not a RP, so the sbl may be

> > one before or one after that indicated. In this

> > chart all 3 Show definite birth of children.

> > If you can get a horary Number from the lady, we

> > can do further check.

> > Good Luck . The Lat long of PALAMPUR H.P. are

> > 32N07, 76E32.

> >

> >

> > Vijay Kumar <vk_51 wrote:

> > Dear Shri Duttaji and others,

> >

> > Thanks for your responses and views.

> >

> > In case if you are interested to know birth

> > details of the girl with whom the native is getting

> > married shortly for records, her data is as follows.

> >

> > Female

> > 15-12-1982, 2029 Hrs IST, Palampur (HP)

> >

> > I would post any other details, if I come across.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Vijay Kumar

> >

> > andrew dutta <andrewinfinitum wrote:

> > Dear all Members and Vijay ji,

> > This is really interesting from a research point

> > of view where natal denies but horary promises. I

> > think time will be the best judge.

> > Please do keep track of this gentleman so that all

> > future developments regarding his marriage and child

> > birth is documented by us.

> >

> > No wonder, its high time that we start doing

> > longitudinal research in astrology wherein we keep

> > track of our predictions on each individual case by

> > case basis and find common themes, patterns,

> > modifications of rules et al.

> > Vijay ji is right on track.

> >

> > Take care everybody.

> >

> > Andrew

> >

> > Vijay Kumar <vk_51 wrote:

> > Dear all,

> >

> > I refer my query posted to the forum a few days

> > back regarding the possibility of childbirth for the

> > native whose birth data was as follows :

> >

> > Male

> > 28 Feb 1982, 23 05 Hrs IST

> > Kangra (Himachal Pradesh)

> > -------------

> > I am thankful to many scholars who have put forth

> > their view points as follows :

> >

> > 01. Mr. Andrew Dutta observes the person to have

> > low sperm counts and does not foresee childbirth

> > destined to him.

> > 02. Swami Srivastavaji observes even the denial

> > of marriage to him.

> > 03. Mr. Satish observes possibility of

> > childbirth through prashna by TSP

> >

> > Apart from this, Ms. Sheetal, Mr. Ajay Pandav,

> > Vishwanath and Raichur have put forth a few

> > viewpoints on the application of various principles

> > related to childbirth.

> > -------------

> > On July, 19 the person again telephoned me to

> > know, if I arrived at some firm opinion. I took that

> > opportunity to take a horary number 15 from him for

> > a focused question on childbirth.

> >

> > I did cast a chart of this number at Bangalore on

> > July 20, 2007 at 15-02-32Hrs and noted as follows.

> >

> > Moon was placed in 5H, as such, the query was

> > confirmed.

> >

> > 5th and 11th CSL was Saturn (11th lord) in the

> > star of Ketu placed in 5H reasonably close to the

> > 5th cusp.

> > Till this point, the indication of childbirth was

> > evident.

> > Since, native runs the dasha of Moon-Saturn from

> > 2-8-2009 to 2-3-2011, I saw this time to be fairly

> > fruitful for childbirth.

> >

> > I did not look further but was hopeful of positive

> > outcome.

> > --------------

> > I would sincerely request scholars to give their

> > views on this case taking stock of both natal and

> > horary charts, which seems to be an interesting case

> > for study. Since, the horary number is now

> > available, someone could as well evaluate it from

> > their perspective.

> >

> > I would specially request Shri Gondhalekar,

> > Raichur and Kanak to evaluate both the birth and

> > horary chart and guide us with their findings.

> >

> > Thanks for your efforts in advance,

> >

> > Vijay Kumar

> >

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> >

> >

> >

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Dear Sujata madam: Can you give the birth details you are referring to with some events of life. Regards MK Viswanath www.venusmatrimony.com sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: Dear Vishythe BOT can be wrong..My BOT was rectified by dr kar and mr k. ganpathy to 9-37pm acc. to whih my sat dasa ended on 16-5--07, but events acc, to RPs at the time of event indicate

othrwise.I gave my house on rent today and the lagna was 242-40,moon was at 312-16 which indicated sat-jup-rahu are still in progressWhat i am angry about is the fact that the 1st child(2nd coception)was shown as being born in sun bhukti who is placed in 5th in the star of ven in 4.7th ss is shown as mars placed in 6th cojunct mercury(17 degrees between them),in taurusAstrologers will take you for a ride,no matter how good they are.I am quite disgusted.regerdssujataAstrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Shri Vijay Kumar Saab My humble opinion is that if the natal chart is available, why should we consider a horary chart. This was clarified in the KP International Summit in Hyderabad on 14

and 15 July 2007 that the result of the natal chart and the horary chart with reference to a particular event should be one and the same. If natal chart gives positive result, horary chart also should give the same result. With due regards. Mk ViswanathVijay Kumar <vk_51 > wrote: Dear all, I refer my query posted to the forum a few days back regarding the possibility of childbirth for the native

whose birth data was as follows : Male 28 Feb 1982, 23 05 Hrs IST Kangra (Himachal Pradesh) ------------- I am thankful to many scholars who have put forth their

view points as follows : 01. Mr. Andrew Dutta observes the person to have low sperm counts and does not foresee childbirth destined to him. 02. Swami Srivastavaji observes even the denial of marriage to him. 03. Mr. Satish observes possibility of childbirth through prashna by TSP Apart from this, Ms. Sheetal, Mr. Ajay Pandav, Vishwanath and Raichur have put forth a few viewpoints on the application of

various principles related to childbirth. ------------- On July, 19 the person again telephoned me to know, if I arrived at some firm opinion. I took that opportunity to take a horary number 15 from him for a focused question on childbirth. I did cast a chart of this number at Bangalore on July 20, 2007 at 15-02-32Hrs and noted as follows. Moon was placed in 5H, as

such, the query was confirmed. 5th and 11th CSL was Saturn (11th lord) in the star of Ketu placed in 5H reasonably close to the 5th cusp. Till this point, the indication of childbirth was evident. Since, native runs the dasha of Moon-Saturn from 2-8-2009 to 2-3-2011, I saw this time to be fairly fruitful for childbirth. I did not look further but was hopeful of positive outcome. -------------- I would sincerely request scholars to give their views on this case taking stock of both natal and horary charts, which seems to be an interesting case for study. Since, the horary number is now available, someone could as well evaluate it from their perspective. I would specially request Shri Gondhalekar, Raichur and Kanak to evaluate both the birth and

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Hello SirI want to know whether this person is married or not?If married then give his wife's chart or horary no. If he is not married then his query with horary no for child birth should be taken for study only after marriage.

If horary no of male is taken 11th sub lord should be the significator of 5,11,8 (11,5, 2 from 7th house).RegardsSheetalOn 7/25/07,

Vijay Kumar <vk_51 wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear all, I refer my query posted to the forum a few days back regarding the possibility of childbirth for the native whose

birth data was as follows : Male

28 Feb 1982, 23 05 Hrs IST Kangra (Himachal Pradesh)

------------- I am thankful to many scholars who have put forth their view points as follows :

01. Mr. Andrew Dutta observes the person to have low sperm counts and does not foresee childbirth destined to him.

02. Swami Srivastavaji observes even the denial of marriage to him.

03. Mr. Satish observes possibility of childbirth through prashna by TSP

Apart from this, Ms. Sheetal, Mr. Ajay Pandav, Vishwanath and Raichur have put forth a few viewpoints on the application of various principles related to childbirth.

------------- On July, 19 the person again telephoned me to know, if I arrived at some firm opinion. I took that opportunity to

take a horary number 15 from him for a focused question on childbirth. I did cast a chart of this number at Bangalore on July 20, 2007 at 15-02-32Hrs and noted as follows.

Moon was placed in 5H, as such, the query was confirmed. 5th

and 11th CSL was Saturn (11th lord) in the star of Ketu placed in 5H reasonably close to the 5th cusp. Till this point, the indication of childbirth was evident.

Since, native runs the dasha of Moon-Saturn from 2-8-2009 to 2-3-2011, I saw this time to be fairly fruitful for childbirth.

I did not look further but was hopeful of positive outcome. --------------

I would sincerely request scholars to give their views on this case taking stock of both natal and horary charts, which seems to be an interesting case for study.

Since, the horary number is now available, someone could as well evaluate it from their perspective.

I would specially request Shri Gondhalekar, Raichur and Kanak to evaluate both the birth and horary chart and guide us with their findings.

Thanks for your efforts in advance,

Vijay Kumar Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles.

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