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Dear Learned Members,

 

I was analyzing the following horoscope of a native

born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for timing

his marriage, if it were to take place. My

observations are as follows:

 

1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator

for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also has

applied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.

Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is

deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it owns.

 

2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.

Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to the

2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava, among

others.

 

3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspected

and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter. Hence,

he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.

 

Under these conditions is marriage denied?

 

Views of the learned members are requested.

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh Shastri

 

 

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Dear Amitabh The 7th cusp sub-lord is Jup: He signifies houses 2 8 and 11. So marriage is possible, but Neptune in 7th house, will deny marriage. good luckAmitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a wrote: Dear Learned Members,I was analyzing the following horoscope of a nativeborn in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for timinghis marriage, if it were to take place. Myobservations are as follows:1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the

significatorfor the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also hasapplied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, isdeposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it owns.2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to the2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava, amongothers. 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspectedand deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter. Hence,he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.Under these conditions is marriage denied? Views of the learned members are requested.Best wishes,Amitabh Shastri________ Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up foryour free account today http://uk.rd./evt=44106/*http://uk.docs./mail/winter07.html Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609

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Dear Shri Amitabh ji If Jup being 7th CSL and signifies 2, and 11, marriage will take place. Regards ViswanathhAmitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a wrote: Dear Learned Members,I was analyzing the following horoscope of a nativeborn in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for timinghis marriage, if it were to take place. Myobservations are as follows:1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significatorfor the

first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also hasapplied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, isdeposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it owns.2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to the2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava, amongothers. 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspectedand deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter. Hence,he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.Under these conditions is marriage denied? Views of the learned members are requested.Best wishes,Amitabh Shastri________ Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up foryour free account today http://uk.rd./evt=44106/*http://uk.docs./mail/winter07.html

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Dear Sir,This is my view. The 7th lord is MArs and this gives Venus as the significator of the 7th house. Unfortunately, MArs is in the 6th house lord of which is Venus. Hence Venus and Mars which are the significator of the 7th ar alos the significators of the 6th house.Lords of 1 and 6, Venus is in the Lagna.Saturn is in the star of Venus signifying house 1 and 6.Saturn is the bhadak for this jathak.Saturn's 3rd drishti is on Venus.and also Mar's 8th drishti on Venus. Hence the Venus the karaka for marriage and strong sinificator of the 7th house has been completely spoilt by both these planets. Saturn's drishti will definitely slow down the process of marriage. 7th sublord Jupiter owning 11th, shows marriage.Right now the jathak is passing through Jupiter dasa.Rahu in the star of Jupiter is in the 10th house and strong significator of the 10th, 12th to 11th. Hence marriage which the 11th Jupiter can solemnise is defeated in purpose.Aslo there is Punaphoo-Saturn's drishti on the Moon.The jathak is passing through saturn bhukthi and anthara. Mars in the Constellation of Saturn will signify again 6 and 12.So, Jupiter and Saturn will not give the jathak marriage.

Jupiter-Mercury-Moon can bring some talks about marriage, in 2010.V.Ramachandran.On 7/19/07, Amitabh Amitabh <

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Dear Learned Members,

 

I was analyzing the following horoscope of a native

born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for timing

his marriage, if it were to take place. My

observations are as follows:

 

1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator

for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also has

applied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.

Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is

deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it owns.

 

2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.

Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to the

2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava, among

others.

 

3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspected

and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter. Hence,

he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.

 

Under these conditions is marriage denied?

 

Views of the learned members are requested.

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh Shastri

 

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Namaste,Does Neptune in 7 always deny marriage, is this a rule in KP?thanks for enlightening meDev.Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Amitabh The 7th cusp sub-lord is Jup: He signifies houses 2 8 and 11. So marriage is possible, but Neptune in 7th house, will deny marriage. good luckAmitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Learned Members,I was analyzing the following horoscope of a nativeborn in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for timinghis marriage, if it were to take place. Myobservations are as follows:1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significatorfor the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also hasapplied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, isdeposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it owns.2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to the2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava, amongothers. 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspectedand deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter. Hence,he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.Under these conditions is marriage denied? Views of the learned members are requested.Best

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Dear Dev Mathur It is not a KP rule, but a phenomenon, observed by some KP astrologers, and is being tested out. Similarly for Plato- the observation is that it has a negative effect. dev mathur <dmathur108 wrote: Namaste,Does Neptune in 7 always deny marriage, is this a rule in KP?thanks for enlightening meDev.Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Dear Amitabh The 7th cusp sub-lord is Jup: He signifies houses 2 8 and 11. So marriage is possible, but Neptune in 7th house, will deny marriage. good luckAmitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Learned Members,I was analyzing the following horoscope of a nativeborn in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for timinghis marriage, if it were to take place. Myobservations are as follows:1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significatorfor the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also hasapplied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, isdeposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it owns.2. The

seventh bhava is unoccupied.Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to the2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava, amongothers. 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspectedand deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter. Hence,he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.Under these conditions is marriage denied? Views of the learned members are requested.Best wishes,Amitabh Shastri________ Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up foryour free account today http://uk.rd./evt=44106/*http://uk.docs./mail/winter07.html Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609

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Hello,Naptune in 7th house may produce an unrealistic and idealistic views regarding marital relation and it may delay marriage.I tried to solve the problem with 4step theory.thanx to Mr. Gondhalekar for that.

7th sub Guru strongly signify +ve houses for marriage 2,7 and negating houses 6,12 which indicate marriage and complicated married life.Guru Maha. running = signify 6,7.6,12 strongly= +ve for marriage as dasha swami

Shani antar. is running = signify 7,1,6,12 strongly, many negating houses so leave itDen Budh antar.will come =signify2,5 strongly at 3steps.+ve for marriage as antar.swami.Pratiantar:1.Surya

(July-Aug10 )= signify strongly 11 th house at 2nd and 4th step =Transit of Dashaswamis also matched in 1st wk of Aug 082.Mangal(Nov-Dec10)=signify strongly more houses than Surya 11,8,2,3 =Transit matched from 16th Nov to end of Dec.

Wen solved the chart, Surya was in ruling as lagna star lord and Mangal was not in rulling directly but it was in Shukra star and budh sub, both in rulling.So probably Marriage is not denied but delayed and may be celebrated in either 1st wk of Aug or Mid Nov to Dec 10

Plz give feedback of the case SheetalOn 7/20/07, dev mathur <

dmathur108

> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Namaste,Does Neptune in 7 always deny marriage, is this a rule in KP?thanks for enlightening meDev.Raichur-a-r <

raichurar wrote: Dear Amitabh The 7th cusp sub-lord is Jup: He signifies houses 2 8 and 11. So marriage is possible, but

Neptune in 7th house, will deny marriage. good luckAmitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a (AT) (DOT)

co.uk> wrote: Dear Learned Members,I was analyzing the following horoscope of a nativeborn in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for timing

his marriage, if it were to take place. Myobservations are as follows:1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significatorfor the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also hasapplied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.

Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, isdeposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it owns.2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to the2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava, among

others. 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspectedand deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter. Hence,he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.Under these conditions is marriage denied? Views of the learned members are requested.Best

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Dear Members,

Neptune in 7th cusp may permit formality of a legal

marriage. But it induces desire for platonic love in the Jataka to

such a high degree that the Jataka refuses to enter into conjugal

relations unless that level of love is reached, but sadly, it seldom

happens, and the marriage breaks down.

sujat. , Raichur-a-r <raichurar

wrote:

>

> Dear Amitabh

> The 7th cusp sub-lord is Jup: He signifies houses 2 8 and 11. So

marriage is possible, but

> Neptune in 7th house, will deny marriage.

> good luck

>

> Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a wrote:

> Dear Learned Members,

>

> I was analyzing the following horoscope of a native

> born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for timing

> his marriage, if it were to take place. My

> observations are as follows:

>

> 1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator

> for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also has

> applied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.

> Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is

> deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it owns.

>

> 2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.

> Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to the

> 2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava, among

> others.

>

> 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspected

> and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter. Hence,

> he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.

>

> Under these conditions is marriage denied?

>

> Views of the learned members are requested.

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

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Dear Viswanath,

 

Thanks for your response. In this case, Jupiter also

signifies the tenth bhava (12th from eleventh). Rahu,

representing Jupiter, is himself positioned in the

tenth.

 

Further, Venus the karak, is relating to twelfth

houses from 2nd and 7th bhavas, indicating denial.

 

The native is now 38 years old.

 

Above factors prompted me to infer denial of marriage

- I did want to know if my analysis is on correct

lines.

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh

 

 

 

--- Astrologer_vishy Nair

<astrologervishy_nair wrote:

 

> Dear Shri Amitabh ji

>

> If Jup being 7th CSL and signifies 2, and 11,

> marriage will take place.

>

> Regards

> Viswanathh

>

> Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a wrote:

> Dear Learned Members,

>

> I was analyzing the following horoscope of a native

> born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for

> timing

> his marriage, if it were to take place. My

> observations are as follows:

>

> 1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator

> for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also

> has

> applied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.

> Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is

> deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it

> owns.

>

> 2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.

> Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to

> the

> 2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava,

> among

> others.

>

> 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspected

> and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter.

> Hence,

> he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.

>

> Under these conditions is marriage denied?

>

> Views of the learned members are requested.

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

>

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Thanks for your detailed analysis.

 

Punarphoo is cancelled in this case, as Sun is in

Saturn's star.

 

Mercury does signify 2nd, 7th and 11th bhavas.

However, it is in the sub of Ketu, who represents

Jupiter,once again!!

 

Would so many negative factors, and above all, the

karaka himself signifying twelfth bhavas from 2nd and

7th indicate marriage at all...isn't marriage totally

denied?

 

Opinions may differ, but we must be able to conlude.

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh

 

--- Padma Ramachandran <padma.ramachandran

wrote:

> Dear Sir,

>

> This is my view. The 7th lord is Mars and this gives

> Venus as the

> significator of the 7th house. Unfortunately, Mars

> is in the 6th house lord

> of which is Venus. Hence Venus and Mars which are

> the significator of the

> 7th are also the significators of the 6th

house.Lords

> of 1 and 6, Venus is in

> the Lagna. Saturn is in the star of Venus signifying

> house 1 and 6. Saturn is

> the bhadak for this jathak. Saturn's 3rd drishti is

> on Venus.and also Mar's

> 8th drishti on Venus. Hence the Venus the karaka for

> marriage and strong

> sinificator of the 7th house has been completely

> spoilt by both these

> planets. Saturn's drishti will definitely slow down

> the process of marriage.

>

> 7th sublord Jupiter owning 11th, shows

> marriage.Right now the jathak is

> passing through Jupiter dasa. Rahu in the star of

> Jupiter is in the 10th

> house and strong significator of the 10th, 12th to

> 11th. Hence marriage

> which the 11th Jupiter can solemnise is defeated in

> purpose.Aslo there is

> Punaphoo-Saturn's drishti on the Moon.The jathak is

> passing through saturn

> bhukthi and anthara. Mars in the Constellation of

> Saturn will signify again

> 6 and 12.So, Jupiter and Saturn will not give the

> jathak marriage.

>

> Jupiter-Mercury-Moon can bring some talks about

> marriage, in 2010.

>

> V.Ramachandran.

>

>

> On 7/19/07, Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Learned Members,

> >

> > I was analyzing the following horoscope of a

> native

> > born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for

> timing

> > his marriage, if it were to take place. My

> > observations are as follows:

> >

> > 1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator

> > for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also

> has

> > applied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.

> > Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is

> > deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it

> owns.

> >

> > 2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.

> > Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to

> the

> > 2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava,

> among

> > others.

> >

> > 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspected

> > and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter.

> Hence,

> > he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.

> >

> > Under these conditions is marriage denied?

> >

> > Views of the learned members are requested.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Amitabh Shastri

> >

> >

>

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Dear Raichurji,

 

Thanks for your prompt reply to my mail.

 

Even if we do not consider Neptune, one of three

invisible planet, is marriage still a distinct

possibility?

 

Somehow, so far I have not been considering any of the

invisible planets in my analysis...

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh Shastri

 

--- Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

 

> Dear Dev Mathur

> It is not a KP rule, but a phenomenon, observed by

> some KP astrologers, and is being tested out.

> Similarly for Plato- the observation is that it has

> a negative effect.

>

>

> dev mathur <dmathur108 wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> Does Neptune in 7 always deny marriage, is this a

> rule in KP?

>

> thanks for enlightening me

>

> Dev.

>

> Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

> Dear Amitabh

> The 7th cusp sub-lord is Jup: He signifies houses

> 2 8 and 11. So marriage is possible, but

> Neptune in 7th house, will deny marriage.

> good luck

>

> Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a wrote:

> Dear Learned Members,

>

> I was analyzing the following horoscope of a native

> born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for

> timing

> his marriage, if it were to take place. My

> observations are as follows:

>

> 1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator

> for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also

> has

> applied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.

> Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is

> deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it

> owns.

>

> 2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.

> Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to

> the

> 2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava,

> among

> others.

>

> 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspected

> and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter.

> Hence,

> he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.

>

> Under these conditions is marriage denied?

>

> Views of the learned members are requested.

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

>

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Dear Shri Amitabh ji Our understanding of the situation is that if 7 CSL signifies 2,7,11 marriage should take place at the first instance. Divorce will be undergone after marriage is undergone. If 7 CSL does not signify 2,7,11, but signify negative houses, then denial of marriage should be at the first place and not marriage. PS: Please check if Rahu is the 7 CSL instead of Jupiter. I may be corrected, if wrong. Thanks and Regards MK ViswanathAmitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a wrote: Dear Viswanath,Thanks for your response. In this case, Jupiter alsosignifies the tenth bhava (12th from eleventh). Rahu,representing Jupiter, is himself positioned in thetenth.Further, Venus the karak, is relating to twelfthhouses from 2nd and 7th bhavas, indicating denial.The native is now 38 years old.Above factors prompted me to infer denial of marriage- I did want to know if my analysis is on correctlines.Best wishes,Amitabh--- Astrologer_vishy Nair<astrologervishy_nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Dear Shri Amitabh ji> > If Jup being 7th CSL and signifies 2, and 11,> marriage will take place.> >

Regards> Viswanathh> > Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> Dear Learned Members,> > I was analyzing the following horoscope of a native> born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for> timing> his marriage, if it were to take place. My> observations are as follows:> > 1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator> for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also> has> applied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.> Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is> deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it> owns.> > 2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.> Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to> the> 2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava,> among> others. > > 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth

bhava, is aspected> and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter.> Hence,> he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.> > Under these conditions is marriage denied? > > Views of the learned members are requested.> > Best wishes,> Amitabh Shastri> >________> > Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't> settle for less, sign up for> your free account today>http://uk.rd./evt=44106/*http://uk.docs./mail/winter07.html> > > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish.> Click here to know

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Dear Amithabh,

In the original treatise on Krishnamuthi Padhdhati,by our late Guruji...it is stated..." Neptune is in the octave of Mercury,Neptune works on the spiritual side,offers Psychic,clairvoyance and other similar abilities...high intellect etc...Neptune is said to govern the brain... imagination,the sign Pisces... the Greeks consider Neptune as Posedion,King of the Seas...

This book describes the effects of Neptune in various Signs as well as Houses...

In brief, Neptune in the VIIth house,gives the following effects :

If afflicted,unreliable,or diseased marriage partner,there may be fraud,deception,domestic troubles,scandal,jealousyand some confusion,two engagements or marriages...

The above,I think should be enough...to prove the point that Neptune is not the out and out malefic that it is often thought to be...as Neptune when not afflicted offers very good qualities,membership of secret societies,valuable research contributions etc...inspirational writing etc,if in the IIIrd house etc...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

 

Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a Sent: Friday, 20 July, 2007 7:52:27 PMRe: DENIAL OF MARRIAGE

 

Dear Raichurji,Thanks for your prompt reply to my mail.Even if we do not consider Neptune, one of threeinvisible planet, is marriage still a distinctpossibility?Somehow, so far I have not been considering any of theinvisible planets in my analysis...Best wishes,Amitabh Shastri--- Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:> Dear Dev Mathur> It is not a KP rule, but a phenomenon, observed by> some KP astrologers, and is being tested out.> Similarly for Plato- the observation is that it has> a negative effect.> > > dev mathur <dmathur108 > wrote:> Namaste,> > Does Neptune in 7 always deny marriage, is this a> rule in KP?> > thanks for

enlightening me> > Dev.> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: > Dear Amitabh> The 7th cusp sub-lord is Jup: He signifies houses> 2 8 and 11. So marriage is possible, but> Neptune in 7th house, will deny marriage.> good luck> > Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> Dear Learned Members,> > I was analyzing the following horoscope of a native> born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for> timing> his marriage, if it were to take place. My> observations are as follows:> > 1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator> for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also> has> applied opposition aspect on the seventh

cusp.> Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is> deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it> owns.> > 2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.> Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to> the> 2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava,> among> others. > > 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspected> and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter.> Hence,> he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.> > Under these conditions is marriage denied? > > Views of the learned members are requested.> > Best wishes,> Amitabh Shastri> >____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't> settle for less, sign up for> your free account today>http://uk.rd. / evt=44106/ *http://uk. docs.. com/mail/ winter07. html> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! -> their life, your story.> Play Sims Stories at Games. > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you> sell. ____________ _________

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Dears Amithabh and Viswanath,

Denial of marriage/absence of married life is seen if the s/l of VI signifies houses I,VI & X,as per K.P.

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a Sent: Friday, 20 July, 2007 7:16:59 PMRe: DENIAL OF MARRIAGE

 

Dear Viswanath,Thanks for your response. In this case, Jupiter alsosignifies the tenth bhava (12th from eleventh). Rahu,representing Jupiter, is himself positioned in thetenth.Further, Venus the karak, is relating to twelfthhouses from 2nd and 7th bhavas, indicating denial.The native is now 38 years old.Above factors prompted me to infer denial of marriage- I did want to know if my analysis is on correctlines.Best wishes,Amitabh--- Astrologer_vishy Nair<astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Dear Shri Amitabh ji> > If Jup being 7th CSL and signifies 2, and 11,> marriage will take place.> > Regards> Viswanathh> > Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> Dear Learned Members,> > I was analyzing the following horoscope of a native> born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for> timing> his marriage, if it were to take place. My> observations are as follows:> > 1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator> for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also> has> applied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.> Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is> deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it> owns.> > 2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.> Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to> the> 2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava,> among> others. > > 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspected> and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter.>

Hence,> he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.> > Under these conditions is marriage denied? > > Views of the learned members are requested.> > Best wishes,> Amitabh Shastri> >____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't> settle for less, sign up for> your free account today>http://uk.rd. / evt=44106/ *http://uk. docs.. com/mail/ winter07. html> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish.> Click here to know how.____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Answers - Got a

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Dear Amitabh If we neglect the effect of Neptune, then the 4 step theory shows that the person will get married, as the 7th sub lord, Jup signifies 2 and 7. But almost all planets which signify 7/or 2/ also strongly signify 4(12th to 5) or 6th, or 12th. So the result becomes, Marry and Divorce during same antara. The date of marriage, works to be between 10-7-2008 and 25-8-2008. good luck. Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a wrote: Dear Raichurji,Thanks for your

prompt reply to my mail.Even if we do not consider Neptune, one of threeinvisible planet, is marriage still a distinctpossibility?Somehow, so far I have not been considering any of theinvisible planets in my analysis...Best wishes,Amitabh Shastri--- Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:> Dear Dev Mathur> It is not a KP rule, but a phenomenon, observed by> some KP astrologers, and is being tested out.> Similarly for Plato- the observation is that it has> a negative effect.> > > dev mathur <dmathur108 > wrote:> Namaste,> > Does Neptune in 7 always deny marriage, is this a> rule in KP?> > thanks for enlightening me> > Dev.> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: > Dear Amitabh> The 7th cusp sub-lord is Jup: He signifies houses> 2 8 and 11. So marriage is possible, but> Neptune in 7th house, will deny marriage.> good luck> > Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> Dear Learned Members,> > I was analyzing the following horoscope of a native> born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for> timing> his marriage, if it were to take place. My> observations are as follows:> > 1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator> for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also> has> applied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.> Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is> deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it> owns.> >

2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.> Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to> the> 2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava,> among> others. > > 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspected> and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter.> Hence,> he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.> > Under these conditions is marriage denied? > > Views of the learned members are requested.> > Best wishes,> Amitabh Shastri> >________> > Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't> settle for less, sign up for> your free account today>http://uk.rd./evt=44106/*http://uk.docs./mail/winter07.html> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! -> their life, your story.> Play Sims Stories at Games. > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you> sell.

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Dear Vishwanath According to 4 step method, Rahu strongly signifies 10,4,8,3,and 2. Since 2 is signified, along with a supporting house 8, one has to say, Marriage is indicated. The other possibility of Sat also, in 4th step signifies 6 and 7 houses, so the same result. I mentioned Neptune, because I recollected an article written in Marathi, where the author has cited an actual case of Neptune denying the Result, otherwise indicated.Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: Dear Shri Amitabh ji Our understanding of the situation is that if 7 CSL signifies 2,7,11 marriage should take place at the first instance. Divorce will be undergone after marriage is undergone. If 7 CSL does not signify 2,7,11, but signify negative houses, then denial of marriage should be at the first place and not marriage. PS: Please check if Rahu is the 7 CSL instead of Jupiter. I may be corrected, if wrong. Thanks and Regards MK ViswanathAmitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Viswanath,Thanks for your response. In this case, Jupiter alsosignifies the tenth bhava (12th from eleventh).

Rahu,representing Jupiter, is himself positioned in thetenth.Further, Venus the karak, is relating to twelfthhouses from 2nd and 7th bhavas, indicating denial.The native is now 38 years old.Above factors prompted me to infer denial of marriage- I did want to know if my analysis is on correctlines.Best wishes,Amitabh--- Astrologer_vishy Nair<astrologervishy_nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Dear Shri Amitabh ji> > If Jup being 7th CSL and signifies 2, and 11,> marriage will take place.> > Regards> Viswanathh> > Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> Dear Learned Members,> > I was analyzing the following horoscope of a native> born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for>

timing> his marriage, if it were to take place. My> observations are as follows:> > 1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator> for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also> has> applied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.> Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is> deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it> owns.> > 2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.> Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to> the> 2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava,> among> others. > > 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspected> and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter.> Hence,> he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.> > Under these conditions is marriage denied? > > Views of the learned members are requested.> > Best wishes,> Amitabh

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Dear Vishy,

To my understanding,if the VIIth csl signifies II,VII,XI and IV / X or VI & XII...the marriage will be fraught with frequent quarrels(IV & X),,leading to serious fights and separation/divorce(VI & XII) and so on both results will be experienced...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair Sent: Saturday, 21 July, 2007 10:14:58 AMRe: DENIAL OF MARRIAGE

 

 

Dear Shri Amitabh ji

 

Our understanding of the situation is that if 7 CSL signifies 2,7,11 marriage should take place at the first instance.

 

Divorce will be undergone after marriage is undergone.

 

If 7 CSL does not signify 2,7,11, but signify negative houses, then denial of marriage should be at the first place and not marriage.

 

PS: Please check if Rahu is the 7 CSL instead of Jupiter.

 

I may be corrected, if wrong.

 

Thanks and Regards

MK ViswanathAmitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

 

 

Dear Viswanath,Thanks for your response. In this case, Jupiter alsosignifies the tenth bhava (12th from eleventh). Rahu,representing Jupiter, is himself positioned in thetenth.Further, Venus the karak, is relating to twelfthhouses from 2nd and 7th bhavas, indicating denial.The native is now 38 years old.Above factors prompted me to infer denial of marriage- I did want to know if my analysis is on correctlines.Best wishes,Amitabh--- Astrologer_vishy Nair<astrologervishy_ nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Dear Shri Amitabh ji> > If Jup being 7th CSL and signifies 2, and 11,> marriage will take place.> > Regards> Viswanathh> > Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:> Dear Learned Members,> > I was analyzing the following horoscope of a native> born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for> timing> his marriage, if it were to take place. My> observations are as follows:> > 1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator> for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also> has> applied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.> Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is> deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it> owns.> > 2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.> Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to> the> 2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava,> among> others. > > 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspected> and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter.>

Hence,> he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.> > Under these conditions is marriage denied? > > Views of the learned members are requested.> > Best wishes,> Amitabh Shastri> >____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't> settle for less, sign up for> your free account today>http://uk.rd. / evt=44106/ *http://uk. docs.. com/mail/ winter07. html> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish.> Click here to know how.____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Answers - Got a

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Dear Yogeshji,

 

Thanks for the input - would apply the principles

pertaining to some analysis.

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh

 

--- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

 

> Dear Amithabh,

> In the original treatise on

> Krishnamuthi Padhdhati,by our late Guruji...it is

> stated... " Neptune is in the octave of

> Mercury,Neptune works on the spiritual side,offers

> Psychic,clairvoyance and other similar

> abilities...high intellect etc...Neptune is said to

> govern the brain... imagination,the sign Pisces...

> the Greeks consider Neptune as Posedion,King of the

> Seas...

> This book describes the effects

> of Neptune in various Signs as well as Houses...

> In brief, Neptune in the VIIth

> house,gives the following effects :

> If afflicted,unreliable,or

> diseased marriage partner,there may be

> fraud,deception,domestic

> troubles,scandal,jealousyand some confusion,two

> engagements or marriages...

> The above,I think should be

> enough...to prove the point that Neptune is not the

> out and out malefic that it is often thought to

> be...as Neptune when not afflicted offers very good

> qualities,membership of secret societies,valuable

> research contributions etc...inspirational writing

> etc,if in the IIIrd house etc...

> With best wishes,

> L.Y.Rao.

> GOOD LUCK !

 

> Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a

>

> Friday, 20 July, 2007 7:52:27 PM

> Re: DENIAL OF MARRIAGE

>

> Dear Raichurji,

>

> Thanks for your prompt reply to my mail.

>

> Even if we do not consider Neptune, one of three

> invisible planet, is marriage still a distinct

> possibility?

>

> Somehow, so far I have not been considering any of

> the

> invisible planets in my analysis...

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

> --- Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

>

> > Dear Dev Mathur

> > It is not a KP rule, but a phenomenon, observed by

> > some KP astrologers, and is being tested out.

> > Similarly for Plato- the observation is that it

> has

> > a negative effect.

> >

> >

> > dev mathur <dmathur108 > wrote:

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Does Neptune in 7 always deny marriage, is this a

> > rule in KP?

> >

> > thanks for enlightening me

> >

> > Dev.

> >

> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

> > Dear Amitabh

> > The 7th cusp sub-lord is Jup: He signifies houses

> > 2 8 and 11. So marriage is possible, but

> > Neptune in 7th house, will deny marriage.

> > good luck

> >

> > Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

> > Dear Learned Members,

> >

> > I was analyzing the following horoscope of a

> native

> > born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for

> > timing

> > his marriage, if it were to take place. My

> > observations are as follows:

> >

> > 1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator

> > for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also

> > has

> > applied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.

> > Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is

> > deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it

> > owns.

> >

> > 2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.

> > Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to

> > the

> > 2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava,

> > among

> > others.

> >

> > 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspected

> > and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter.

> > Hence,

> > he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.

> >

> > Under these conditions is marriage denied?

> >

> > Views of the learned members are requested.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Amitabh Shastri

> >

> >

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Hello Amitabhji,Karakas are not taken into consideration in K.P.How can any planet signifying 7th house will show denial for marriage10th house signification doesn't always negate marriage, it may give dissatisfaction in marriage.

There are many men who get married after 38yrs of ageSheetalOn 7/20/07, Amitabh Amitabh <

amitabh20a wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Viswanath,

 

Thanks for your response. In this case, Jupiter also

signifies the tenth bhava (12th from eleventh). Rahu,

representing Jupiter, is himself positioned in the

tenth.

 

Further, Venus the karak, is relating to twelfth

houses from 2nd and 7th bhavas, indicating denial.

 

The native is now 38 years old.

 

Above factors prompted me to infer denial of marriage

- I did want to know if my analysis is on correct

lines.

 

Best wishes,

Amitabh

 

--- Astrologer_vishy Nair

<astrologervishy_nair wrote:

 

> Dear Shri Amitabh ji

>

> If Jup being 7th CSL and signifies 2, and 11,

> marriage will take place.

>

> Regards

> Viswanathh

>

> Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a wrote:

> Dear Learned Members,

>

> I was analyzing the following horoscope of a native

> born in Chennai on 29 July 1969 at 02:40 AM for

> timing

> his marriage, if it were to take place. My

> observations are as follows:

>

> 1. Venus, karak for marriage, is the significator

> for the first (primary) and sixth bhavas. It also

> has

> applied opposition aspect on the seventh cusp.

> Further, Venus as owner of the sixth bhava, is

> deposited in the eighth bhava from the bhava it

> owns.

>

> 2. The seventh bhava is unoccupied.

> Though,Jupiter, the cuspal sub lord, is related to

> the

> 2nd and 11th bhavas, it aspects the 10th bhava,

> among

> others.

>

> 3. Rahu, occupant of the tenth bhava, is aspected

> and deposited in the star and sign of Jupiter.

> Hence,

> he becomes a strong significator for Jupiter.

>

> Under these conditions is marriage denied?

>

> Views of the learned members are requested.

>

> Best wishes,

> Amitabh Shastri

>

>

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, santhosh A <santhosh_room_41 wrote:

Dear Santosh,

If the s/l of the VIIth signifies I,IV,VI & X, such a person's

marriage is quite next to impossible...and if he/she does get married at all,it

will not last for long...

L.Y.Rao.

>

> Dear Sir

>

> My thought on this is that.when i casted the KP chart using KP Ayanamsa

> i got different sub lord and star lord for the house.

>

> Just look at Ruling planets

>

> Birth Time RP

> Time: 19/05/1969, 06:15:00

>

> Planet Sign Lord Star Lord Sub Lord

> Lagna Venus Sun Venus

> Moon Mercury Mars Ketu

> Day Lord Moon

>

> C a s t i n g T i m e R P

> Time: 04/04/2006, 20:37:46

> Planet Sign Lord Star Lord Sub Lord

> Lagna Venus Rahu Mars

> Moon Mercury Rahu Jupiter

> Day Lord Mars

>

> here itself Jupiter is not shows as signicator, now Jupiter as on today is

retrograde so he will give negative results.

>

> Now seeing the Jupiter Dasa was running from

> Jupiter 23 -09 - 1989 to 23 -09 -2005

> which could has denied the marriage, as i don't want to see even antar dasa

> if i look antar dasa,itself marriage should happne as Venus antar dasa

> as venus is shown as signicator of 7th house and in the sub of Venus

> which again shows signifcator to 2,11.This cannot happen as KP

> Ruling planet theory gives the right planets to choose.

>

> Now let us look on the next dasa which is

> -Saturn 23 -09 -2005 to 23 - 09 -2024

> this also not shown as significator in the ruling planets.So i thing

> chancee of marriage to this native is very very rare.

>

> regards

> Santhosh

>

> GURUMURTHY SUBRAMANIAN <gurusubra wrote: Given hereunder are the birth

details of a lady.

> Date of Birth:19th May,1969, Time:6-15.A.M, Place :Chennai

> This is an interesting case where favourable as well as unfavourable

features are mixed up in the chart with regard to marriage prospect and it is

difficult to arrive at any definite conclusion.

> The sub-lord of seventh cusp is Moon,lord of 3 posited in 1. But Moon is in

the star of Mars, lord of 7 and 12 in 7 itself. Moon is in sub of Venus,lord of

1 and 6 placed in 11.

> Mars is retrograde.

> The sublord of 2 is Rahu in 10, representing Jupiter lord of 8 and 11, but

placed in 4, an unfavourable house. It may be noted that Rahu is in the star and

sub of Saturn,lord of 9 and 10, placed in 12.

>

> Looking into the 11th cusp, the sublord is Saturn, whose significations

have been explained above. Saturn is in the star of Kethu in 4 repesenting

Mercury, lord of 2 and 5 in 6. The sub of Saturn is Jupiter.

> When she was around age 20, Jupiter Dasa was running and it did not give

her marriage. Currently she is under Saturn Dasa and the prospects are not

bright even here.

> An interesting point is that eventhogh the 7th sub-lord signifies 7 and

also 11, by its sub, why marriage has not taken place so far?

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> I request our K.P. experts to study this chart and share their observations

in this forum.

> G.Subramanian

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Messenger with Voice.

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