Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 good morning Sairamanagain Sairman disturbing y for for same subject i went through the msg again again to day slowly if the same prinnple isapplied for all lagna and the sensitive points for every day and watchfurther the DBA should also have link with same further in cefrtain lagnas likevirgo and 8th lord styr itself in lagna mars str for every lagna the lagna str if we take for eg during saturn dasa most cancer lagna people well placed since saturn str is 1,5,9 houses poosam in cancer anusham in scorpio and uthiratathi in meenaduring the mars bukthi my wife suffered very much though yogakargha cheated very well as the str of mars are 4 8 1`2th house from lagna during jupiter bukthi i get financial and carrier improvement as rishbha lagna the major share of jupiter str in 2 6 10 houses though condemned as 8th lord in body 3 projected areas 4 chest 8 the organ and 12 the foot the functions of these are most important imagine mans lef without foot how can rest in earth he will be above earth hanging so 4 8 12 are houses of extension and extension only after some deep trouble as 8th included a turning pointing in life the entire engergy c hanges when enter house 4 after going to toilet 8 and also 12 the away from house so for anychange i think 4 8 12 are alert houses after which only mans life changes completelyafter a illness theft after a accidents man sounds alert from heaven he is more and more alert never forghets the incidentsfor long time the birth of human coming 8th of mother which is 10th of 4th the legal status to the woman as mother and if we go through the lagna str sub the same is highest pain to mother during the hour during DBAFOR EG I AM BORN (31 7 1953 CHENNAI 2 30 AM ) IN RISHABHA MARS STR JUPITER SUB MERCURY SUB SUB AND VENUS SUB SUB ...IT IS MY BIRTH LARGA DETAILS AS SUBS DURING MY VENUS DASA JUPITER BUKTHI MERCURY ANTHARA AND VENUS SOOKSHAMA MY MOTHER SUFFERED SO MUCH NEAR DEATH AND ESCAPED AND WHENEVER JUPITER BUKTHI (I CANOT SEE DASA AS IAM BORN IN SATURN STR) WITH MERCURY VENUS ANTHARA MY MOTHER GETTING SO MUCH SICK ACCIDENTS ETC even now on 6 5 2007 12 40 pm now running moon dasa (10 th sub lord) jupiter anthara in same bukthi moon mercury ..venus ( in kataka lagna mercury str she met with accident sccoter fallen down from my vechicle and broken both hjand at 72 years (however so fat she escapes after some pain )during sun dasa (11th sub lord) jupiter bukthi mercury anthara (hjupiter 1,7 mercury 3711 str and 6912 sub lord she met with a hip fracture and had major surgery and ball socket placedMy wife says i am talking more of bad things (saturn str ) let us apply these principles and see forgood things lottoery promotin in carrier vrs huge receipt of money etc marriage can we analyse the same prinples for good and bad things sensitive area for all lagans Sir and will y pls enlighten on this PLSThank y Sir with my best regards (sorry for lengthy msg making y read)Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Sairaman, Thank you for the compliments,which, rightfully, should go to Our revered Guruji,the late Jyotish Marthand K.S.KrishnamurthiJi...and K.P.,his greatest invention, so far as is known in astrology...and to the illustrious disciple of KSK,the late Shri M.P. Shanmugham,from whose book I have borrowed freely... Allow me to thank you also,for further enriching my knowledge by giving your experience in this field... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. sairam nat <sairaman53 > Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 10:17:36 PM reg unexpectted happenings in life 23rd may 2007.. sairaman good evening siryr msg regardig unnatural accidentas death etc is wounderful and wounderful new thought verycatchy so many things can be arrivedfrom thati made some study like this in vedic astrology where the moolatrikona signs comes as 6 8 12th houses.for rishabha venus jupiter mars (may be sun also 4th house) for kataka jupiter and saturn for virgo saturn mars and sun for meena venus and saturn andfor kumbha moon and mercury etc. if the dasa bukthi lords are 6 8 12 and they happen to be 6 8 12 th houswe being moltrikonas the bad things sure to happenif not for self may be other bhavas like children father etcjupiter satrurn venus jupiter mars mercury mars sun if they come dasa bukthi a watchful bukthi the most unexpected mars and sun 8 12 klords jupiter mars for rishbha 8 and 12 th house i have some practical examples people say itis 9th lord also lagnathipathi or 11th house lords but however the 6 and 8th and 12th lords when comes as DBA it ivariably gives troubleif the trasnsit also cooperates such bad things and if any malefics planets transit particularly slow moving malefics in 210 degrees from a dasa nathan or in natal the bad things bound to happenyr idea is wounderful to pin point event thanks very much Sir and in this group very rearely such good things are coming out the new ideas recorded watched researched and compared with very well known practical horoscopes it is really satisfyingSairamanYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Members, It is very well known that the Trikona Houses or TRIGONS,are very important groups of cusps for certain events in life... I-V-IX, II-VI-X, III-VII,XI, & IV-VIII -XII ...several secrets seem to be stored in these Trigons...Actually,Nadi Jyotishya developed on this(and many more)Trigonal (Trikona)set- up... In these days of frequent travelling,it will,in my humble opinion,to see,whether a person is prone to accidents or not...and K.P., can be of great help,to either warn the person accordingly, in advance... ACCIDENT-PRONE PEOPLE : 1.Will generally,be having the sublords of VI,VIII & XII posited in each others' stars...and, for example... 2. If these sub-lords happen to be Sat-Venus-Jup, it means that accidents are just waiting to happen ,during the Dasas/Bhuktis/ Anthras of these planets...because, in Libra(house owned by Venus),Jup has its star Vishakha,and in Sagittarius(house owned by Jupiter),Venus has it's star Poorvashada, and in Pisces(Jupiter's house), Saturn has it's star Uttarabhadra. ..For such a person,as per his Natal Chart,K.P. enables us to calculate the sensitive point of the Lagna Degree and foretell the accident, by Day/Date/Time. .. For such a person,in Libra the house of Venus, Jupiter star Vishakha, Sat's sub falls in 21*46'40",Hence when Lagna transits over this sensitive point of the Zodiac,an accident will surely take place... ! In the same manner,in Sagittarius the House of Jupiter,Venus star-Sat sub falls in 21*53'20"... and when Lagna transits this sensitive point an accident will surely take place... Again,in Pisces the house of Jupiter,Saturn's star,Venus sub falls in 7*46'40"...this is the sensitive point to cause an accident 3. Therefore for ALL people,whichsoever Rasi or Lagna they belong to,whenever these three sensitive points operate as Lagna,they should be very careful...This caution applies only when for those travelling and their Jup/Ven/Sat, Dasa-Bhukti- Anthara is operating,and special care bis advised,if atleast one of these Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthara lords is connected to a Maraka/Badhaka sthana... ACCIDENT-FREE PEOPLE : a) If the sublords of the Houses I,V & IX have amongst themselves,their stars in each others' houses...under any circumstances such persons will NEVER suffer from un-natural/untimely /premature death... ! But there are very few such Fortunate people...in this world... b) There is however a very great irony in all this...Natives whose Natal Charts do not indicate the possibility of accidents of any kind,have no buildings/vehicles in their possession.. .? ! ! & n bsp; (Ref :"The Trigons", Astrosecrets & K.P.) With the very best wishes, L.Y.Rao. Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution! Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.Play Sims Stories at Games. Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Dear Sairaman, Kindly check if your Birth Chart is correct as per K.P., where the Ascendant sub-lord and sub-sub-lord appear as Moon's star-lord and sub-lord respectively...(The TOB thus arrived at,will be EXACT).If not,pl. correct the TOB accordingly and then do the exercise...and report... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. sairam nat <sairaman53 Sent: Sunday, 27 May, 2007 9:03:14 AMRe: reg trigons for accidents and free ...27th may 2007 8 40 am good morning Sairamanagain Sairman disturbing y for for same subject i went through the msg again again to day slowly if the same prinnple isapplied for all lagna and the sensitive points for every day and watchfurther the DBA should also have link with same further in cefrtain lagnas likevirgo and 8th lord styr itself in lagna mars str for every lagna the lagna str if we take for eg during saturn dasa most cancer lagna people well placed since saturn str is 1,5,9 houses poosam in cancer anusham in scorpio and uthiratathi in meenaduring the mars bukthi my wife suffered very much though yogakargha cheated very well as the str of mars are 4 8 1`2th house from lagna during jupiter bukthi i get financial and carrier improvement as rishbha lagna the major share of jupiter str in 2 6 10 houses though condemned as 8th lord in body 3 projected areas 4 chest 8 the organ and 12 the foot the functions of these are most important imagine mans lef without foot how can rest in earth he will be above earth hanging so 4 8 12 are houses of extension and extension only after some deep trouble as 8th included a turning pointing in life the entire engergy c hanges when enter house 4 after going to toilet 8 and also 12 the away from house so for anychange i think 4 8 12 are alert houses after which only mans life changes completelyafter a illness theft after a accidents man sounds alert from heaven he is more and more alert never forghets the incidentsfor long time the birth of human coming 8th of mother which is 10th of 4th the legal status to the woman as mother and if we go through the lagna str sub the same is highest pain to mother during the hour during DBAFOR EG I AM BORN (31 7 1953 CHENNAI 2 30 AM ) IN RISHABHA MARS STR JUPITER SUB MERCURY SUB SUB AND VENUS SUB SUB ...IT IS MY BIRTH LARGA DETAILS AS SUBS DURING MY VENUS DASA JUPITER BUKTHI MERCURY ANTHARA AND VENUS SOOKSHAMA MY MOTHER SUFFERED SO MUCH NEAR DEATH AND ESCAPED AND WHENEVER JUPITER BUKTHI (I CANOT SEE DASA AS IAM BORN IN SATURN STR) WITH MERCURY VENUS ANTHARA MY MOTHER GETTING SO MUCH SICK ACCIDENTS ETC even now on 6 5 2007 12 40 pm now running moon dasa (10 th sub lord) jupiter anthara in same bukthi moon mercury ..venus ( in kataka lagna mercury str she met with accident sccoter fallen down from my vechicle and broken both hjand at 72 years (however so fat she escapes after some pain )during sun dasa (11th sub lord) jupiter bukthi mercury anthara (hjupiter 1,7 mercury 3711 str and 6912 sub lord she met with a hip fracture and had major surgery and ball socket placedMy wife says i am talking more of bad things (saturn str ) let us apply these principles and see forgood things lottoery promotin in carrier vrs huge receipt of money etc marriage can we analyse the same prinples for good and bad things sensitive area for all lagans Sir and will y pls enlighten on this PLSThank y Sir with my best regards (sorry for lengthy msg making y read)Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sairaman, Thank you for the compliments, which, rightfully, should go to Our revered Guruji,the late Jyotish Marthand K.S.KrishnamurthiJi ...and K.P.,his greatest invention, so far as is known in astrology... and to the illustrious disciple of KSK,the late Shri M.P. Shanmugham,from whose book I have borrowed freely... Allow me to thank you also,for further enriching my knowledge by giving your experience in this field... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. sairam nat <sairaman53 >@gro ups.comWednesday, 23 May, 2007 10:17:36 PM reg unexpectted happenings in life 23rd may 2007.. sairaman good evening siryr msg regardig unnatural accidentas death etc is wounderful and wounderful new thought verycatchy so many things can be arrivedfrom thati made some study like this in vedic astrology where the moolatrikona signs comes as 6 8 12th houses.for rishabha venus jupiter mars (may be sun also 4th house) for kataka jupiter and saturn for virgo saturn mars and sun for meena venus and saturn andfor kumbha moon and mercury etc. if the dasa bukthi lords are 6 8 12 and they happen to be 6 8 12 th houswe being moltrikonas the bad things sure to happenif not for self may be other bhavas like children father etcjupiter satrurn venus jupiter mars mercury mars sun if they come dasa bukthi a watchful bukthi the most unexpected mars and sun 8 12 klords jupiter mars for rishbha 8 and 12 th house i have some practical examples people say itis 9th lord also lagnathipathi or 11th house lords but however the 6 and 8th and 12th lords when comes as DBA it ivariably gives troubleif the trasnsit also cooperates such bad things and if any malefics planets transit particularly slow moving malefics in 210 degrees from a dasa nathan or in natal the bad things bound to happenyr idea is wounderful to pin point event thanks very much Sir and in this group very rearely such good things are coming out the new ideas recorded watched researched and compared with very well known practical horoscopes it is really satisfyingSairamanYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Members, It is very well known that the Trikona Houses or TRIGONS,are very important groups of cusps for certain events in life... I-V-IX, II-VI-X, III-VII,XI, & IV-VIII -XII ...several secrets seem to be stored in these Trigons...Actually,Nadi Jyotishya developed on this(and many more)Trigonal (Trikona)set- up... In these days of frequent travelling,it will,in my humble opinion,to see,whether a person is prone to accidents or not...and K.P., can be of great help,to either warn the person accordingly, in advance... ACCIDENT-PRONE PEOPLE : 1.Will generally,be having the sublords of VI,VIII & XII posited in each others' stars...and, for example... 2. If these sub-lords happen to be Sat-Venus-Jup, it means that accidents are just waiting to happen ,during the Dasas/Bhuktis/ Anthras of these planets...because, in Libra(house owned by Venus),Jup has its star Vishakha,and in Sagittarius(house owned by Jupiter),Venus has it's star Poorvashada, and in Pisces(Jupiter's house), Saturn has it's star Uttarabhadra. ..For such a person,as per his Natal Chart,K.P. enables us to calculate the sensitive point of the Lagna Degree and foretell the accident, by Day/Date/Time. .. For such a person,in Libra the house of Venus, Jupiter star Vishakha, Sat's sub falls in 21*46'40",Hence when Lagna transits over this sensitive point of the Zodiac,an accident will surely take place... ! In the same manner,in Sagittarius the House of Jupiter,Venus star-Sat sub falls in 21*53'20"... and when Lagna transits this sensitive point an accident will surely take place... Again,in Pisces the house of Jupiter,Saturn's star,Venus sub falls in 7*46'40"...this is the sensitive point to cause an accident 3. Therefore for ALL people,whichsoever Rasi or Lagna they belong to,whenever these three sensitive points operate as Lagna,they should be very careful...This caution applies only when for those travelling and their Jup/Ven/Sat, Dasa-Bhukti- Anthara is operating,and special care bis advised,if atleast one of these Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthara lords is connected to a Maraka/Badhaka sthana... ACCIDENT-FREE PEOPLE : a) If the sublords of the Houses I,V & IX have amongst themselves,their stars in each others' houses...under any circumstances such persons will NEVER suffer from un-natural/untimely /premature death... ! But there are very few such Fortunate people...in this world... b) There is however a very great irony in all this...Natives whose Natal Charts do not indicate the possibility of accidents of any kind,have no buildings/vehicles in their possession.. .? ! ! & n bsp; (Ref :"The Trigons", Astrosecrets & K.P.) With the very best wishes, L.Y.Rao. Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution! Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.Play Sims Stories at Games. Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Dear Lajmi ji, Sir Can i Take here Moon's star-lord and sub-lord at TOJ( time of Judgement of correctness checking moment) One more thing Should this condition be satisfied in any chart we predict about at a time or only needbe checkedwhere doubt ofcorrectness exist?. Thanking in anticipation. Swami_rcs - Yogesh Rao Lajmi Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:27 AM Re: reg trigons for accidents and free ...27th may 2007 8 40 am Dear Sairaman, Kindly check if your Birth Chart is correct as per K.P., where the Ascendant sub-lord and sub-sub-lord appear as Moon's star-lord and sub-lord respectively...(The TOB thus arrived at,will be EXACT).If not,pl. correct the TOB accordingly and then do the exercise...and report... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. sairam nat <sairaman53 > Sent: Sunday, 27 May, 2007 9:03:14 AMRe: reg trigons for accidents and free ...27th may 2007 8 40 am good morning Sairamanagain Sairman disturbing y for for same subject i went through the msg again again to day slowly if the same prinnple isapplied for all lagna and the sensitive points for every day and watchfurther the DBA should also have link with same further in cefrtain lagnas likevirgo and 8th lord styr itself in lagna mars str for every lagna the lagna str if we take for eg during saturn dasa most cancer lagna people well placed since saturn str is 1,5,9 houses poosam in cancer anusham in scorpio and uthiratathi in meenaduring the mars bukthi my wife suffered very much though yogakargha cheated very well as the str of mars are 4 8 1`2th house from lagna during jupiter bukthi i get financial and carrier improvement as rishbha lagna the major share of jupiter str in 2 6 10 houses though condemned as 8th lord in body 3 projected areas 4 chest 8 the organ and 12 the foot the functions of these are most important imagine mans lef without foot how can rest in earth he will be above earth hanging so 4 8 12 are houses of extension and extension only after some deep trouble as 8th included a turning pointing in life the entire engergy c hanges when enter house 4 after going to toilet 8 and also 12 the away from house so for anychange i think 4 8 12 are alert houses after which only mans life changes completelyafter a illness theft after a accidents man sounds alert from heaven he is more and more alert never forghets the incidentsfor long time the birth of human coming 8th of mother which is 10th of 4th the legal status to the woman as mother and if we go through the lagna str sub the same is highest pain to mother during the hour during DBAFOR EG I AM BORN (31 7 1953 CHENNAI 2 30 AM ) IN RISHABHA MARS STR JUPITER SUB MERCURY SUB SUB AND VENUS SUB SUB ...IT IS MY BIRTH LARGA DETAILS AS SUBS DURING MY VENUS DASA JUPITER BUKTHI MERCURY ANTHARA AND VENUS SOOKSHAMA MY MOTHER SUFFERED SO MUCH NEAR DEATH AND ESCAPED AND WHENEVER JUPITER BUKTHI (I CANOT SEE DASA AS IAM BORN IN SATURN STR) WITH MERCURY VENUS ANTHARA MY MOTHER GETTING SO MUCH SICK ACCIDENTS ETC even now on 6 5 2007 12 40 pm now running moon dasa (10 th sub lord) jupiter anthara in same bukthi moon mercury ..venus ( in kataka lagna mercury str she met with accident sccoter fallen down from my vechicle and broken both hjand at 72 years (however so fat she escapes after some pain )during sun dasa (11th sub lord) jupiter bukthi mercury anthara (hjupiter 1,7 mercury 3711 str and 6912 sub lord she met with a hip fracture and had major surgery and ball socket placedMy wife says i am talking more of bad things (saturn str ) let us apply these principles and see forgood things lottoery promotin in carrier vrs huge receipt of money etc marriage can we analyse the same prinples for good and bad things sensitive area for all lagans Sir and will y pls enlighten on this PLSThank y Sir with my best regards (sorry for lengthy msg making y read)Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Sairaman, Thank you for the compliments, which, rightfully, should go to Our revered Guruji,the late Jyotish Marthand K.S.KrishnamurthiJi ...and K.P.,his greatest invention, so far as is known in astrology... and to the illustrious disciple of KSK,the late Shri M.P. Shanmugham,from whose book I have borrowed freely... Allow me to thank you also,for further enriching my knowledge by giving your experience in this field... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. sairam nat <sairaman53 >@gro ups.comWednesday, 23 May, 2007 10:17:36 PM reg unexpectted happenings in life 23rd may 2007.. sairaman good evening siryr msg regardig unnatural accidentas death etc is wounderful and wounderful new thought verycatchy so many things can be arrivedfrom thati made some study like this in vedic astrology where the moolatrikona signs comes as 6 8 12th houses.for rishabha venus jupiter mars (may be sun also 4th house) for kataka jupiter and saturn for virgo saturn mars and sun for meena venus and saturn andfor kumbha moon and mercury etc. if the dasa bukthi lords are 6 8 12 and they happen to be 6 8 12 th houswe being moltrikonas the bad things sure to happenif not for self may be other bhavas like children father etcjupiter satrurn venus jupiter mars mercury mars sun if they come dasa bukthi a watchful bukthi the most unexpected mars and sun 8 12 klords jupiter mars for rishbha 8 and 12 th house i have some practical examples people say itis 9th lord also lagnathipathi or 11th house lords but however the 6 and 8th and 12th lords when comes as DBA it ivariably gives troubleif the trasnsit also cooperates such bad things and if any malefics planets transit particularly slow moving malefics in 210 degrees from a dasa nathan or in natal the bad things bound to happenyr idea is wounderful to pin point event thanks very much Sir and in this group very rearely such good things are coming out the new ideas recorded watched researched and compared with very well known practical horoscopes it is really satisfyingSairamanYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Members, It is very well known that the Trikona Houses or TRIGONS,are very important groups of cusps for certain events in life... I-V-IX, II-VI-X, III-VII,XI, & IV-VIII -XII ...several secrets seem to be stored in these Trigons...Actually,Nadi Jyotishya developed on this(and many more)Trigonal (Trikona)set- up... In these days of frequent travelling,it will,in my humble opinion,to see,whether a person is prone to accidents or not...and K.P., can be of great help,to either warn the person accordingly, in advance... ACCIDENT-PRONE PEOPLE : 1.Will generally,be having the sublords of VI,VIII & XII posited in each others' stars...and, for example... 2. If these sub-lords happen to be Sat-Venus-Jup, it means that accidents are just waiting to happen ,during the Dasas/Bhuktis/ Anthras of these planets...because, in Libra(house owned by Venus),Jup has its star Vishakha,and in Sagittarius(house owned by Jupiter),Venus has it's star Poorvashada, and in Pisces(Jupiter's house), Saturn has it's star Uttarabhadra. ..For such a person,as per his Natal Chart,K.P. enables us to calculate the sensitive point of the Lagna Degree and foretell the accident, by Day/Date/Time. .. For such a person,in Libra the house of Venus, Jupiter star Vishakha, Sat's sub falls in 21*46'40",Hence when Lagna transits over this sensitive point of the Zodiac,an accident will surely take place... ! In the same manner,in Sagittarius the House of Jupiter,Venus star-Sat sub falls in 21*53'20"... and when Lagna transits this sensitive point an accident will surely take place... Again,in Pisces the house of Jupiter,Saturn's star,Venus sub falls in 7*46'40"...this is the sensitive point to cause an accident 3. Therefore for ALL people,whichsoever Rasi or Lagna they belong to,whenever these three sensitive points operate as Lagna,they should be very careful...This caution applies only when for those travelling and their Jup/Ven/Sat, Dasa-Bhukti- Anthara is operating,and special care bis advised,if atleast one of these Dasa/Bhukti/ Anthara lords is connected to a Maraka/Badhaka sthana... ACCIDENT-FREE PEOPLE : a) If the sublords of the Houses I,V & IX have amongst themselves,their stars in each others' houses...under any circumstances such persons will NEVER suffer from un-natural/untimely /premature death... ! But there are very few such Fortunate people...in this world... b) There is however a very great irony in all this...Natives whose Natal Charts do not indicate the possibility of accidents of any kind,have no buildings/vehicles in their possession.. .? ! ! & n bsp; (Ref :"The Trigons", Astrosecrets & K.P.) With the very best wishes, L.Y.Rao. Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution! Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.Play Sims Stories at Games. Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. Looking for people who are YOUR TYPE? Find them here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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