Inter-community marriage -- - Child birth exercise

May 21, 2007

Dear Kanak and Members,

A break down before marriage may be better because a low No. 10

score in KPDP is a cause for concern in deed. In the case of

Elizabeth Taylor and Michael Todd with No. 10 score 17% only out of

overall scores 72%, Michael Todd was killed in a plane crash in 13th

month after marriage.

For your comment, here is an exercise for child birth prediction.

Thanks and regards,

tw

Kindly help regarding following problem:

I don't have any issue (children). When i will be blessed with a

son. My date of marriage is 08.05.1998 and other Deatils is as

follows.

Myself:------

DOB: 15 Aug 1971

Time : 15.45

Place: Dholpur (Rajasthan)

Wife:

DOB 11 Oct 1975

Time: 06.00

Place: Bharatpur (Rajasthan)

I am giving no.243 to cast a chart

Thanks

Regards

ARUN

1. Birth Details

i)Husband,16-08-1971,15-45pm,Sid13-03-

14,Dholpur,Rajasthan,26N42,77E54,Aridra star,Pada1,NewKPA23-22-

15,Asc Sag09-35-33(KPAstro2.7)

ii)Wife, 11-10-1975,06-00am,Sid06-55-

52,Bharatpur,Rajasthan,27N13,77E29,Moola star,Pada4,NewKPA23-25-

43,AscVi19-00-10(KPAstro2.7)

2. Analysis of Wife's Chart

2.1. 5 th cuspal sublord is VEN.

1) Plt VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.

2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9)

(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

cuspal sublord.)

3) Sbl SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.

4) Sbl SAT is in 10p l/o 5, 6.

+ = No planet is in VEN star; P/p= Primary significator as per 4-

Step Method

i) As per KP, child birth is promised as 11, 2, 5 houses are

signified in step 1 & 2 (also 5th house in step 3).

ii)As per latest explanations of 4-Step Method, a promise for child

birth is not clear because 11th house is Primary significator in

step 1 & 2 but 10th house (12 to 11th) is a Primary negative

significator in step 4 which is given priority together with step 2.

2.2. Current running dasa lord is MOO.

1) Plt MOO is in 3 l/o 11.

2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)

(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

cuspal sublord.)

3) Sbl MER is in 1 l/o 1, 10.

4) Sbl MOO is in 3p l/o 11.

i) As per KP, MOO is supposed to be a fruitful significator for

child birth because significator of 11, 2, 5 houses in step 1 & 2 is

supported by signification of 11th in step 4 (despite signification

of 1, 10 houses in step 3).

ii) As per 4-Step Method, it may be the same possibility as 11th is

a Primary significator in 2nd step despite no Primary significator

for child birth in step 3 & 4.

2.3. Current running Bhukti is SAT, i.e. MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007 to

02-08-2008)

1) Plt SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.

2) Stl SAT is in 10p l/o 5Ep, 6Ep.

3) Sbl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.

(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

cuspal sublord.)

4) Sbl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)

(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

cuspal sublord.)

E= Empty house

i) As per KP, it is possible to have a child during MOO-SAT DB (02-

01-2007 to 02-08-2008) because significator of 5th house in step 1 &

2 is supported by significator of 2,5,11 in step 3 & 4 (and 10

house in step 1 & 2 is not supported by significator of 2,5,8,9,11

in step 3 & 4.)

ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary

significator of 5th house in Step 2 and Primary significator of 11th

house in Step 3 & 4.

3. Analysis of Husband's Chart

3.1. 11th & 5th cuspal sublord is SAT.

1) Plt SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3.

2) Stl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.

3) Sbl RAH in 2 (Sgl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3)

RAH conj MAR (w/n 30min) + in 2P l/o 5Ep, 12Ep.

4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.

i) As per KP, a child is promised as 5, 2 houses are signified in

step 1 (and in step 3).

ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same promise because of Primary

significator of 5th house in Step 1 & 3 and Primary significator of

2, 5 houses in Step 3.

3.2. Current running dasa is SAT-SAT DB (12-05-2005 to 14-05-2008)

Referring 3.1,

i) As per KP, it is possible to get a child during SAT-SAT DB (12-05-

2005 to 14-05-2008) because significator of 2, 5 houses in step 1 is

supported by significator of 2, 5 in step 3.

ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary

significator of 5th house in Step 1 and Primary significator of 5, 2

houses in Step 3..

4. The nearest possible period to have a child is:

02-01-2007 to 14-05-2008

as a result of reconciling 2.3 & 3.2.

5. The next possible period to have a child is:

24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012

as a result of reconciling MOO-VEN DB (03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012)

for wife and SAT-KET DB (24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012) for husband..

, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

>

> Dear Tin Win ji,

>

> A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP,

>

> on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching,

they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes,

and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not

good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26

as per Kutta matching.

>

> Today just now i received phone from my client that this

engagement was broken.

>

> detail:

>

BOY: GIRL

>

> Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 -

12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0

> PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD

INDIA

>

> regards

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Vishwanath, Kanak,

>

> For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:

>

> Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35

>

> Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vishwanath ji,

> >

> > Thanks for detiels about both chart.

> >

> > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which

> you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your

> reply i will write more data.

> > as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give

> reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i

> will post some more data.

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:

> > Dear Sirs

> >

> > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in

> Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of

> marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic

> methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility.

> >

> > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in

> male chart.

> >

> > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels,

> but continue to live under one roof.

> >

> > Regards

> > Mk Viswanath

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:

> > Dear Tin Win ji,

> >

> > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats

> all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi

> dosha.couple is Brahamin.

> >

> > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT

> GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA

> > GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR

> Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA

> >

> > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney

> btwin both but due to child they live to gether.

> >

> > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you

> try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy

> KPDP criteria no: 10.

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > Dear Kanak,

> >

> > Thanks for your view.

> >

> > Some views are below.

> >

> > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the " same " nadi. then

here

> > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is

> only

> > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two

> people

> > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be

> > considered because God is trying to bring the two people

together

> > through natural processes.

> >

> > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is

> > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in

> this

> > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of

> > points should be ignored and the compatability should be

> > considered as 'Poor'.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With

> > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.

> > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi

dosha,

> > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin

> only,

> > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of

> > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya

> > Nadi have No dosha.

> > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.

> > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)

> > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.

> > >

> > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count

> > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks

> > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never

come

> > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.

> > >

> > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they

have

> > no child.

> > >

> > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE

> > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -

> > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA

> > >

> > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE

> > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4

> > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA

> > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha

but

> > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as

> per

> > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i

> > have to check all again)

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > Dear Satish, Kanak,

> > >

> > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the

consent

> of

> > > parents due to some negative significators.

> > >

> > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like

Criterion

> > No.

> > > 10 in KP Matching.

> > >

> > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would

> be

> > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why

> > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the

cases

> > of

> > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are

> > around

> > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for

Camilla.

> > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for

> Diana

> > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to

be

> > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a

> child).

> > >

> > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work

for

> > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance,

> passion,

> > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight,

will

> > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of

> > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6)

> > >

> > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for

> > Westerners

> > > and modernized Indian new generation?

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and

> > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.

> > > >

> > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time

yesterday.According

> > > to

> > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived

objection

> (

> > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical

approach

> > is

> > > > being followed in this case.

> > > >

> > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.

> > > >

> > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed

> > > towards

> > > > this issue.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Satish

> > > >

> > > > , Kanak Bosmia

<kanakbosmia@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in

> > > this

> > > > rule.

> > > > >

> > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house

> does

> > > > not

> > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the

house

> is

> > > > empty,

> > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its

> > stars.

> > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as

significator

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the

> > > practice,

> > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D

(A,B,C

> > > > BLANK),

> > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the

Sub

> > as

> > > D.

> > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord

of

> > the

> > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical,

> since

> > > the

> > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house.

> The

> > > > Lord

> > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨

> > > > >

> > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you

> > check

> > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this

> subject.

> > > it

> > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found

> failore

> > > and

> > > > unexpected signficatore seen.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > > >

> > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai,

KPAstro --

> >

> > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn

01-

> > 22-

> > > > 09,

> > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-

> 26d

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --

>

> > > > 16N31,

> > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-

43,

> > > Moon

> > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.

> > > > >

> > > > > MATCHING RESULTS

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching

> Percentage

> > > is

> > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience)

> > > Criterion

> > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 &

9.

> > > > >

> > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies

> 2,

> > 7

> > > as

> > > > > shown below.)

> > > > >

> > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star.

> > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP

star

> > (Pl

> > > > see

> > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group)

> > > > >

> > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses

> for

> > > > which

> > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj

MER

> > in

> > > 8

> > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5,

JUP

> in

> > 2

> > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o

> 7,

> > 8,

> > > > > 9.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,

> > > > >

> > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10

> > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10

> > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > >

> > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4.

> > > > >

> > > > > + No planet in JUP star

> > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification

> > > > >

> > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2

> are

> > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are

> > also

> > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with

a

> > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not

> > > signified

> > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same

as

> > per

> > > > KP

> > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to

the

> > > role

> > > > > of star.

> > > > >

> > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th

> cuspal

> > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)

> > > > >

> > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.

> > > > >

> > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP

in

> 2

> > > l/o

> > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4,

12.

> > > RAH's

> > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3.

> > > > >

> > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )

> > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2

> > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p

> > > > >

> > > > > + No planet in MOO star

> > > > > * VEN in own star

> > > > >

> > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.

> > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,

> > > > >

> > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:

> > > > >

> > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.

> > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO

is

> > > > cuspal

> > > > > sublord.

> > > > >

> > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2

> > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p

> > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep

> > > > >

> > > > > + No planet in MOO star

> > > > > * VEN in own star

> > > > >

> > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-

2008).

> > > > >

> > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP

in

> > 4.4,

> > > > >

> > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a

> decider

> > > for

> > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.

> > > > >

> > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also

> > considered

> > > as

> > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in

> step

> > 3

> > > > and

> > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words

> > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to

> signification

> > > of

> > > > > step 1 and 2.

> > > > >

> > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts

that

> > > > sublord

> > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in

> planet

> > > and

> > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord

> > > > signification

> > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11

> > signification

> > > by

> > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can

be

> > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these

> > > significations

> > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life

> or

> > > > death,

> > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real

test

> > of

> > > > > experience and expertise.

> > > > >

> > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9

> > signification

> > > > by

> > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable

> > Cuspal

> > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub

lord

> > > > > interlinks by Khullar).

> > > > >

> > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate

marriage

> by

> > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5

> (love

> > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial

> > life,

> > > > > getting dowry).

> > > > >

> > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative

> > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and

> > > > separation

> > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from

> > danger

> > > > at

> > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the

> solely

> > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st

> > house

> > > > as

> > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.

> > > > >

> > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house

> does

> > > not

> > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the

house

> is

> > > > empty,

> > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its

> > stars.

> > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as

significator

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the

> > > practice,

> > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D

(A,B,C

> > > > BLANK),

> > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the

Sub

> > as

> > > D.

> > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord

of

> > the

> > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical,

> since

> > > the

> > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house.

> The

> > > > Lord

> > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨

> > > > >

> > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator

of

> 6

> > > > house

> > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to

take

> > as

> > > a

> > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as

> > > significator

> > > > of

> > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However,

> only

> > D-

> > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts

> in

> > KP

> > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP

> > > Readers

> > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further

> consideration

> > > of

> > > > > sublord of planets or cusps.

> > > > >

> > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti

can

> > be

> > > > done

> > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs

> signifying

> > 2,

> > > > 7,

> > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage

> is

> > > RAH-

> > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).

> > > > >

> > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary

> Significator

> > > of

> > > > 7,

> > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord

KET,

> a

> > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate

> > choice.

> > > > >

> > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART

> > > > >

> > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th

> cuspal

> > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET

> > > indicate

> > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching

> > > > (Likelihood

> > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%.

> > > > >

> > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006

to

> > 14-

> > > 10-

> > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is

> > > > possible

> > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit

effects

> > > > Girl's

> > > > > 7 house.

> > > > >

> > > > > , Kanak Bosmia

> <kanakbosmia@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Satish ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > as per me:

> > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi

as

> > > > > Santan yog is forseen.

> > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.

> > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for

> > marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > > > >

> > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both

brahmins

> > and

> > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl

> in

> > > > > Mumbai.

> > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is

> opposition

> > > > from

> > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same

> > > nakshatra

> > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying

> > > separately.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-

> > > > > > madhyam nadi).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair

> > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Satish

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " A person should not be too honest.

> > > > > > Straight trees are cut first

> > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first. "

> > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and

writer,

> > 350

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May 21, 2007

Respected guruji, Thanaks for the mail. I read the mail. But in your analysis you took my date of birth as 16.08.1971 (sixteen Aug) but actually it is 15 Aug which i wrote in my mail. Is there any correction in the analysis due to this. If yes then kindly correct. I posted my quarry on the kp group portal but all the prediction were wrong. Kindly go through it. Thanks Again With Warm Regards Dr. Aruntw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak and Members,A break down before marriage may be better because a low No. 10 score in KPDP is a cause for concern in deed. In the case of Elizabeth Taylor and Michael Todd with No. 10 score 17% only out of overall scores 72%, Michael Todd was killed in a plane crash in 13th month after marriage. For your comment, here is an exercise for child birth prediction.Thanks and regards,twKindly help regarding following problem:I don't have any issue (children). When i will be blessed with a son. My date of marriage is 08.05.1998 and other Deatils is as follows. Myself:------ DOB: 15 Aug 1971 Time : 15.45Place: Dholpur (Rajasthan)Wife: DOB 11 Oct 1975Time: 06.00Place: Bharatpur (Rajasthan)I am giving no.243 to cast a chartThanksRegardsARUN1. Birth

Detailsi)Husband,16-08-1971,15-45pm,Sid13-03-14,Dholpur,Rajasthan,26N42,77E54,Aridra star,Pada1,NewKPA23-22-15,Asc Sag09-35-33(KPAstro2.7)ii)Wife, 11-10-1975,06-00am,Sid06-55-52,Bharatpur,Rajasthan,27N13,77E29,Moola star,Pada4,NewKPA23-25-43,AscVi19-00-10(KPAstro2.7)2. Analysis of Wife's Chart2.1. 5 th cuspal sublord is VEN.1) Plt VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9)(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.)3) Sbl SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.4) Sbl SAT is in 10p l/o 5, 6.+ = No planet is in VEN star; P/p= Primary significator as per 4-Step Methodi) As per KP, child birth is promised as 11, 2, 5 houses are signified in step 1 & 2 (also 5th house in step 3).ii)As per latest explanations of 4-Step Method, a promise

for child birth is not clear because 11th house is Primary significator in step 1 & 2 but 10th house (12 to 11th) is a Primary negative significator in step 4 which is given priority together with step 2.2.2. Current running dasa lord is MOO.1) Plt MOO is in 3 l/o 11.2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.)3) Sbl MER is in 1 l/o 1, 10.4) Sbl MOO is in 3p l/o 11.i) As per KP, MOO is supposed to be a fruitful significator for child birth because significator of 11, 2, 5 houses in step 1 & 2 is supported by signification of 11th in step 4 (despite signification of 1, 10 houses in step 3).ii) As per 4-Step Method, it may be the same possibility as 11th is a Primary significator in 2nd step despite no Primary significator for child birth in step 3 & 4.2.3. Current running Bhukti is

SAT, i.e. MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007 to 02-08-2008)1) Plt SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.2) Stl SAT is in 10p l/o 5Ep, 6Ep.3) Sbl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.)4) Sbl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.)E= Empty housei) As per KP, it is possible to have a child during MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007 to 02-08-2008) because significator of 5th house in step 1 & 2 is supported by significator of 2,5,11 in step 3 & 4 (and 10 house in step 1 & 2 is not supported by significator of 2,5,8,9,11 in step 3 & 4.)ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary significator of 5th house in Step 2 and Primary significator of 11th house in Step 3 & 4.3. Analysis of Husband's Chart3.1. 11th & 5th

cuspal sublord is SAT.1) Plt SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3.2) Stl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.3) Sbl RAH in 2 (Sgl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3)RAH conj MAR (w/n 30min) + in 2P l/o 5Ep, 12Ep.4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.i) As per KP, a child is promised as 5, 2 houses are signified in step 1 (and in step 3).ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same promise because of Primary significator of 5th house in Step 1 & 3 and Primary significator of 2, 5 houses in Step 3.3.2. Current running dasa is SAT-SAT DB (12-05-2005 to 14-05-2008)Referring 3.1,i) As per KP, it is possible to get a child during SAT-SAT DB (12-05-2005 to 14-05-2008) because significator of 2, 5 houses in step 1 is supported by significator of 2, 5 in step 3.ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary significator of 5th house in Step 1 and Primary significator of 5, 2 houses in Step 3..4. The nearest

possible period to have a child is:02-01-2007 to 14-05-2008 as a result of reconciling 2.3 & 3.2.5. The next possible period to have a child is:24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012as a result of reconciling MOO-VEN DB (03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012) for wife and SAT-KET DB (24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012) for husband.. , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> > A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP,> > on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching, they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes, and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26 as per Kutta matching.> > Today just now i received phone from my client that this

engagement was broken.> > detail:> > BOY: GIRL > > Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 > PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD INDIA > > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, > > For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:> > Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 > > Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Vishwanath ji,> > > > Thanks for detiels about both chart.> > > > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which > you have

mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your > reply i will write more data.> > as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give > reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i > will post some more data.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:> > Dear Sirs> > > > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in > Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of > marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic > methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in > male chart. > > > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and

quarrels, > but continue to live under one roof.> > > > Regards> > Mk Viswanath> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats > all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi > dosha.couple is Brahamin.> > > > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT > GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA> > GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR > Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA> > > > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney > btwin both but due to child they live to gether.> > > > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you > try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy

> KPDP criteria no: 10.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > Thanks for your view. > > > > Some views are below.> > > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here > > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is > only > > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two > people > > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > > through natural processes.> > > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in > this > > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even

high scoring of > > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > > considered as 'Poor'.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin > only, > > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > > Nadi have No dosha.> > > 2)Varna dosha is for

Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > > > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > > no child.> > > > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > > I will find out

data form my database which have nadi dosha but > > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as > per > > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > > have to check all again)> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent > of > > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > > No. > > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would >

be > > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > > of > > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > > around > > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for > Diana > > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a > child).> > > > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, > passion, > > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > > they argue,

will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > > Westerners > > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > > to > > > >

Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection> ( > > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > > is > > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > > towards > > > > this issue.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > >

> > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > > this > > > > rule.> > > > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house > does > > > > not > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house > is > > > > empty,> > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > > stars. > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > > in > > > > the > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > > practice, > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > > BLANK), > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept

planets which have the Sub > > as > > > D. > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > > the > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, > since > > > the > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. > The > > > > Lord > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > > check > > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this > subject. > > > it > > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found > failore > > > and > > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > >

> > > regards> > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-> > 22-> > > > 09, > > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-> 26d> > > > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > > 16N31, > > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > > Moon > > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > > >

MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching > Percentage > > > is > > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > > Criterion > > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies > 2, > > 7 > > > as > > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > > (Pl

> > > > see > > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses > for > > > > which > > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > > in > > > 8 > > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP > in > > 2 > > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o > 7, > > 8, > > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > >

> PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 > are > > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > > also > > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > > signified > > > >

> in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > > per > > > > KP > > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > > role > > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th > cuspal > > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > l/o > > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > > RAH's > > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3

)> > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > > cuspal > > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p

> > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > > 4.4,> > > > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a > decider > > > for > > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > > considered > > > as > > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying

houses in > step > > 3 > > > > and > > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to > signification > > > of > > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > > sublord > > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in > planet > > > and > > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > > signification > > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > > signification > > > by > > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > >

achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > > significations > > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life > or > > > > death, > > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > > of > > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > > signification > > > > by > > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > > Cuspal > > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage > by > > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11

houses and supporting houses 5 > (love > > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > > life, > > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > > separation > > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > > danger > > > > at > > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the > solely > > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > > house > > > > as > > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that

the lord of the house > does > > > not > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house > is > > > > empty,> > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > > stars. > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > > in > > > > the > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > > practice, > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > > BLANK), > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > > as > > > D. > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > > the > > > > > house itself becomes the

significator. This is logical, > since > > > the > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. > The > > > > Lord > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of > 6 > > > > house > > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > > as > > > a > > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > > significator > > > > of > > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, > only > > D-> > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts > in > > KP > > > > > Reader

IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > > Readers > > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further > consideration > > > of > > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > > be > > > > done > > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs > signifying > > 2, > > > > 7, > > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage > is > > > RAH-> > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary > Significator > > > of > > > > 7, > > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti

lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, > a > > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > > choice.> > > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th > cuspal > > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > > indicate > > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > > (Likelihood > > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > > 14-> > > 10-> > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > > possible > >

> > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > > Girl's > > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia > <kanakbosmia@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > >

> Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > > and > > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl > in > > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is > opposition > > > > from > > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > > nakshatra > > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > > separately.>

> > > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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May 22, 2007

II Om Gurave Namah IIHari OM

Dear tin win ji,

I wanted To learn 4 step analysis application from your recent postings, otherwise My software gives me significator starigt way in this Method also.You explained each step carefully .

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I am sorry to observe that In case of Tamilian boy and Andhra girl case, the data shows Thurs day that is not possible for 20 May 1980.

Since data was incorrect analysis was inapplicable in both cases marriage compatibility and general marriage suitability.

In second case again I found date of one "Myself" was incorrect however later corrected but again I could not Make out What are your findings.

I am curious after so much effort and labour done by You , What is ultimate analysis In both cases and your valued prediction.

I am also curious Why KP analysis is not relied upon now a days ?

You mentioned Four step is still under probe( something like it ),It shall be educative if Simultaneous KP ananlysis is also posted.

Since Sh Sunil Ji is also member of the Group , I request him to post his views on These or some other cases for benefit of students, before they can get access to his Book in English.

May I qout swami Omkar"from past 40yrs people learning KP. but most of the people not getting perfect answer. the reason is they doesn't know how to apply the RP. but they are not understanding that and telling faults in ayanamsa or sub lord theory. and finding new theory in KP"

As student I wish I could find truth by Learning from experts in this group.

PS 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of parents due to some negative significators. 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. 10 in KP Matching.

So this is the summary But date is 20 May and constellation was in cancer Nakshatra Ashlesha and not as indicated.

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With kind regards.

OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."

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tw853

Monday, May 21, 2007 6:58 AM

Re: Inter-community marriage -- - Child birth exercise

Dear Kanak and Members,A break down before marriage may be better because a low No. 10 score in KPDP is a cause for concern in deed. In the case of Elizabeth Taylor and Michael Todd with No. 10 score 17% only out of overall scores 72%, Michael Todd was killed in a plane crash in 13th month after marriage. For your comment, here is an exercise for child birth prediction.Thanks and regards,twKindly help regarding following problem:I don't have any issue (children). When i will be blessed with a son. My date of marriage is 08.05.1998 and other Deatils is as follows. Myself:------ DOB: 15 Aug 1971 Time : 15.45Place: Dholpur (Rajasthan)Wife: DOB 11 Oct 1975Time: 06.00Place: Bharatpur (Rajasthan)I am giving no.243 to cast a chartThanksRegardsARUN1. Birth Detailsi)Husband,16-08-1971,15-45pm,Sid13-03-14,Dholpur,Rajasthan,26N42,77E54,Aridra star,Pada1,NewKPA23-22-15,Asc Sag09-35-33(KPAstro2.7)ii)Wife, 11-10-1975,06-00am,Sid06-55-52,Bharatpur,Rajasthan,27N13,77E29,Moola star,Pada4,NewKPA23-25-43,AscVi19-00-10(KPAstro2.7)2. Analysis of Wife's Chart2.1. 5 th cuspal sublord is VEN.1) Plt VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9)(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.)3) Sbl SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.4) Sbl SAT is in 10p l/o 5, 6.+ = No planet is in VEN star; P/p= Primary significator as per 4-Step Methodi) As per KP, child birth is promised as 11, 2, 5 houses are signified in step 1 & 2 (also 5th house in step 3).ii)As per latest explanations of 4-Step Method, a promise for child birth is not clear because 11th house is Primary significator in step 1 & 2 but 10th house (12 to 11th) is a Primary negative significator in step 4 which is given priority together with step 2.2.2. Current running dasa lord is MOO.1) Plt MOO is in 3 l/o 11.2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.)3) Sbl MER is in 1 l/o 1, 10.4) Sbl MOO is in 3p l/o 11.i) As per KP, MOO is supposed to be a fruitful significator for child birth because significator of 11, 2, 5 houses in step 1 & 2 is supported by signification of 11th in step 4 (despite signification of 1, 10 houses in step 3).ii) As per 4-Step Method, it may be the same possibility as 11th is a Primary significator in 2nd step despite no Primary significator for child birth in step 3 & 4.2.3. Current running Bhukti is SAT, i.e. MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007 to 02-08-2008)1) Plt SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.2) Stl SAT is in 10p l/o 5Ep, 6Ep.3) Sbl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.)4) Sbl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)(VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is cuspal sublord.)E= Empty housei) As per KP, it is possible to have a child during MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007 to 02-08-2008) because significator of 5th house in step 1 & 2 is supported by significator of 2,5,11 in step 3 & 4 (and 10 house in step 1 & 2 is not supported by significator of 2,5,8,9,11 in step 3 & 4.)ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary significator of 5th house in Step 2 and Primary significator of 11th house in Step 3 & 4.3. Analysis of Husband's Chart3.1. 11th & 5th cuspal sublord is SAT.1) Plt SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3.2) Stl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.3) Sbl RAH in 2 (Sgl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3)RAH conj MAR (w/n 30min) + in 2P l/o 5Ep, 12Ep.4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.i) As per KP, a child is promised as 5, 2 houses are signified in step 1 (and in step 3).ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same promise because of Primary significator of 5th house in Step 1 & 3 and Primary significator of 2, 5 houses in Step 3.3.2. Current running dasa is SAT-SAT DB (12-05-2005 to 14-05-2008)Referring 3.1,i) As per KP, it is possible to get a child during SAT-SAT DB (12-05-2005 to 14-05-2008) because significator of 2, 5 houses in step 1 is supported by significator of 2, 5 in step 3.ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary significator of 5th house in Step 1 and Primary significator of 5, 2 houses in Step 3..4. The nearest possible period to have a child is:02-01-2007 to 14-05-2008 as a result of reconciling 2.3 & 3.2.5. The next possible period to have a child is:24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012as a result of reconciling MOO-VEN DB (03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012) for wife and SAT-KET DB (24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012) for husband.. , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji,> > A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP,> > on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching, they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes, and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26 as per Kutta matching.> > Today just now i received phone from my client that this engagement was broken.> > detail:> > BOY: GIRL > > Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 > PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD INDIA > > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, > > For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:> > Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 > > Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Vishwanath ji,> > > > Thanks for detiels about both chart.> > > > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which > you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your > reply i will write more data.> > as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give > reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i > will post some more data.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:> > Dear Sirs> > > > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in > Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of > marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic > methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in > male chart. > > > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, > but continue to live under one roof.> > > > Regards> > Mk Viswanath> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats > all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi > dosha.couple is Brahamin.> > > > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT > GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA> > GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR > Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA> > > > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney > btwin both but due to child they live to gether.> > > > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you > try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy > KPDP criteria no: 10.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Kanak,> > > > Thanks for your view. > > > > Some views are below.> > > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then here > > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is > only > > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two > people > > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > > considered because God is trying to bring the two people together > > through natural processes.> > > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in > this > > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > > considered as 'Poor'.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi dosha, > > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin > only, > > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > > Nadi have No dosha.> > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never come > > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > > > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they have > > no child.> > > > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha but > > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as > per > > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > > have to check all again)> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent > of > > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion > > No. > > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would > be > > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the cases > > of > > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > > around > > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for Camilla. > > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for > Diana > > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to be > > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a > child).> > > > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work for > > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, > passion, > > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, will > > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > > Westerners > > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time yesterday.According > > > to > > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived objection> ( > > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical approach > > is > > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > > towards > > > > this issue.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > > this > > > > rule.> > > > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house > does > > > > not > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house > is > > > > empty,> > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > > stars. > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > > in > > > > the > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > > practice, > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > > BLANK), > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > > as > > > D. > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > > the > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, > since > > > the > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. > The > > > > Lord > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > > check > > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this > subject. > > > it > > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found > failore > > > and > > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, KPAstro --> > > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn 01-> > 22-> > > > 09, > > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-> 26d> > > > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > > 16N31, > > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-43, > > > Moon > > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching > Percentage > > > is > > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > > Criterion > > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & 9.> > > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies > 2, > > 7 > > > as > > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP star > > (Pl > > > > see > > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses > for > > > > which > > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj MER > > in > > > 8 > > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP > in > > 2 > > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o > 7, > > 8, > > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 > are > > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > > also > > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with a > > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > > signified > > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same as > > per > > > > KP > > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to the > > > role > > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th > cuspal > > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP in > 2 > > > l/o > > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, 12. > > > RAH's > > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO is > > > > cuspal > > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-2008).> > > > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP in > > 4.4,> > > > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a > decider > > > for > > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > > considered > > > as > > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in > step > > 3 > > > > and > > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to > signification > > > of > > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts that > > > > sublord > > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in > planet > > > and > > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > > signification > > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > > signification > > > by > > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can be > > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > > significations > > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life > or > > > > death, > > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real test > > of > > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > > signification > > > > by > > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > > Cuspal > > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub lord > > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate marriage > by > > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 > (love > > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > > life, > > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > > separation > > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > > danger > > > > at > > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the > solely > > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > > house > > > > as > > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house > does > > > not > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the house > is > > > > empty,> > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > > stars. > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as significator > > in > > > > the > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > > practice, > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D (A,B,C > > > > BLANK), > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the Sub > > as > > > D. > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord of > > the > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, > since > > > the > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. > The > > > > Lord > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator of > 6 > > > > house > > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to take > > as > > > a > > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > > significator > > > > of > > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, > only > > D-> > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts > in > > KP > > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > > Readers > > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further > consideration > > > of > > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti can > > be > > > > done > > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs > signifying > > 2, > > > > 7, > > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage > is > > > RAH-> > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary > Significator > > > of > > > > 7, > > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord KET, > a > > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > > choice.> > > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th > cuspal > > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > > indicate > > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > > (Likelihood > > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 to > > 14-> > > 10-> > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > > possible > > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit effects > > > > Girl's > > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia > <kanakbosmia@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi as > > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both brahmins > > and > > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl > in > > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is > opposition > > > > from > > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > > nakshatra > > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > > separately.> > > > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > > 350 > > > > BC > > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > 350 > > > BC > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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May 22, 2007

Dear Sri RCS and friends,

Sri RCS, please read associated mails where I gave correct

birth details.20th may 1980 shud be read as 20 march 1980.

friends, I have observed there are mischievious elements who

are create wrong postings.Missing postings etc

Usually the language of the members is well

described,if anything unusual please treat it as from a prankster.

Regards,

Satish

, <swami wrote:

>

> II Om Gurave Namah II

> Hari OM

> Dear tin win ji,

> I wanted To learn 4 step analysis application from your recent

postings, otherwise My software gives me significator starigt way

in this Method also.You explained each step carefully .

> .

> I am sorry to observe that In case of Tamilian boy and Andhra

girl case, the data shows Thurs day that is not possible for 20 May

1980.

> Since data was incorrect analysis was inapplicable in both cases

marriage compatibility and general marriage suitability.

> In second case again I found date of one " Myself " was incorrect

however later corrected but again I could not Make out What are your

findings.

> I am curious after so much effort and labour done by You , What is

ultimate analysis In both cases and your valued prediction.

> I am also curious Why KP analysis is not relied upon now a days ?

> You mentioned Four step is still under probe( something like

it ),It shall be educative if Simultaneous KP ananlysis is also

posted.

> Since Sh Sunil Ji is also member of the Group , I request him to

post his views on These or some other cases for benefit of students,

before they can get access to his Book in English.

>

> May I qout swami Omkar " from past 40yrs people learning KP. but

most of the people not getting perfect answer. the reason is they

doesn't know how to apply the RP. but they are not understanding

that and telling faults in ayanamsa or sub lord theory. and finding

new theory in KP "

> As student I wish I could find truth by Learning from experts in

this group.

> PS 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the

consent of parents due to some negative significators.

> 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion

No. 10 in KP Matching.

> So this is the summary But date is 20 May and constellation was in

cancer Nakshatra Ashlesha and not as indicated.

>

> .

> With kind regards.

>

> OM TATSAT

> ------------------------

> R.C.Srivastava

> ------------------------

> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being

who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> -

> tw853

>

> Monday, May 21, 2007 6:58 AM

> Re: Inter-community marriage -- - Child

birth exercise

>

> Dear Kanak and Members,

>

> A break down before marriage may be better because a low No. 10

> score in KPDP is a cause for concern in deed. In the case of

> Elizabeth Taylor and Michael Todd with No. 10 score 17% only out

of

> overall scores 72%, Michael Todd was killed in a plane crash in

13th

> month after marriage.

>

> For your comment, here is an exercise for child birth prediction.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> Kindly help regarding following problem:

> I don't have any issue (children). When i will be blessed with a

> son. My date of marriage is 08.05.1998 and other Deatils is as

> follows.

>

> Myself:------

> DOB: 15 Aug 1971

> Time : 15.45

> Place: Dholpur (Rajasthan)

>

> Wife:

> DOB 11 Oct 1975

> Time: 06.00

> Place: Bharatpur (Rajasthan)

>

> I am giving no.243 to cast a chart

> Thanks

> Regards

> ARUN

>

> 1. Birth Details

>

> i)Husband,16-08-1971,15-45pm,Sid13-03-

> 14,Dholpur,Rajasthan,26N42,77E54,Aridra star,Pada1,NewKPA23-22-

> 15,Asc Sag09-35-33(KPAstro2.7)

>

> ii)Wife, 11-10-1975,06-00am,Sid06-55-

> 52,Bharatpur,Rajasthan,27N13,77E29,Moola star,Pada4,NewKPA23-25-

> 43,AscVi19-00-10(KPAstro2.7)

>

> 2. Analysis of Wife's Chart

>

> 2.1. 5 th cuspal sublord is VEN.

>

> 1) Plt VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.

> 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9)

> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> cuspal sublord.)

> 3) Sbl SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.

> 4) Sbl SAT is in 10p l/o 5, 6.

>

> + = No planet is in VEN star; P/p= Primary significator as per 4-

> Step Method

>

> i) As per KP, child birth is promised as 11, 2, 5 houses are

> signified in step 1 & 2 (also 5th house in step 3).

>

> ii)As per latest explanations of 4-Step Method, a promise for

child

> birth is not clear because 11th house is Primary significator in

> step 1 & 2 but 10th house (12 to 11th) is a Primary negative

> significator in step 4 which is given priority together with

step 2.

>

> 2.2. Current running dasa lord is MOO.

>

> 1) Plt MOO is in 3 l/o 11.

> 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)

> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> cuspal sublord.)

> 3) Sbl MER is in 1 l/o 1, 10.

> 4) Sbl MOO is in 3p l/o 11.

>

> i) As per KP, MOO is supposed to be a fruitful significator for

> child birth because significator of 11, 2, 5 houses in step 1 &

2 is

> supported by signification of 11th in step 4 (despite

signification

> of 1, 10 houses in step 3).

>

> ii) As per 4-Step Method, it may be the same possibility as 11th

is

> a Primary significator in 2nd step despite no Primary

significator

> for child birth in step 3 & 4.

>

> 2.3. Current running Bhukti is SAT, i.e. MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007

to

> 02-08-2008)

>

> 1) Plt SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.

> 2) Stl SAT is in 10p l/o 5Ep, 6Ep.

> 3) Sbl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.

> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> cuspal sublord.)

> 4) Sbl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)

> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> cuspal sublord.)

>

> E= Empty house

>

> i) As per KP, it is possible to have a child during MOO-SAT DB

(02-

> 01-2007 to 02-08-2008) because significator of 5th house in step

1 &

> 2 is supported by significator of 2,5,11 in step 3 & 4 (and 10

> house in step 1 & 2 is not supported by significator of

2,5,8,9,11

> in step 3 & 4.)

>

> ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of

Primary

> significator of 5th house in Step 2 and Primary significator of

11th

> house in Step 3 & 4.

>

> 3. Analysis of Husband's Chart

>

> 3.1. 11th & 5th cuspal sublord is SAT.

>

> 1) Plt SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3.

> 2) Stl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.

> 3) Sbl RAH in 2 (Sgl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3)

> RAH conj MAR (w/n 30min) + in 2P l/o 5Ep, 12Ep.

> 4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.

>

> i) As per KP, a child is promised as 5, 2 houses are signified

in

> step 1 (and in step 3).

>

> ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same promise because of Primary

> significator of 5th house in Step 1 & 3 and Primary significator

of

> 2, 5 houses in Step 3.

>

> 3.2. Current running dasa is SAT-SAT DB (12-05-2005 to 14-05-

2008)

>

> Referring 3.1,

>

> i) As per KP, it is possible to get a child during SAT-SAT DB

(12-05-

> 2005 to 14-05-2008) because significator of 2, 5 houses in step

1 is

> supported by significator of 2, 5 in step 3.

>

> ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of

Primary

> significator of 5th house in Step 1 and Primary significator of

5, 2

> houses in Step 3..

>

> 4. The nearest possible period to have a child is:

>

> 02-01-2007 to 14-05-2008

>

> as a result of reconciling 2.3 & 3.2.

>

> 5. The next possible period to have a child is:

>

> 24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012

>

> as a result of reconciling MOO-VEN DB (03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012)

> for wife and SAT-KET DB (24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012) for husband..

>

> , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tin Win ji,

> >

> > A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP,

> >

> > on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for

matching,

> they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says

Yes,

> and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was

not

> good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are

26

> as per Kutta matching.

> >

> > Today just now i received phone from my client that this

> engagement was broken.

> >

> > detail:

> >

> BOY: GIRL

> >

> > Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 -

> 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0

> > PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD

> INDIA

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > Dear Vishwanath, Kanak,

> >

> > For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:

> >

> > Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35

> >

> > Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vishwanath ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for detiels about both chart.

> > >

> > > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition

which

> > you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after

your

> > reply i will write more data.

> > > as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never

give

> > reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to

look i

> > will post some more data.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:

> > > Dear Sirs

> > >

> > > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars

posited in

> > Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of

> > marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked,

vedic

> > methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility.

> > >

> > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or

Venus in

> > male chart.

> > >

> > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and

quarrels,

> > but continue to live under one roof.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Mk Viswanath

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:

> > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > >

> > > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether

thats

> > all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no

nadi

> > dosha.couple is Brahamin.

> > >

> > > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT

> > GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA

> > > GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR

> > Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA

> > >

> > > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no

harmoney

> > btwin both but due to child they live to gether.

> > >

> > > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if

you

> > try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear,

specialy

> > KPDP criteria no: 10.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > Dear Kanak,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your view.

> > >

> > > Some views are below.

> > >

> > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the " same " nadi.

then

> here

> > > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh

is

> > only

> > > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two

> > people

> > > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be

> > > considered because God is trying to bring the two people

> together

> > > through natural processes.

> > >

> > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is

> > > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha'

in

> > this

> > > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring

of

> > > points should be ignored and the compatability should be

> > > considered as 'Poor'.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > , Kanak Bosmia

<kanakbosmia@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity.

With

> > > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.

> > > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi

> dosha,

> > > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for

Brahamin

> > only,

> > > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge

cast of

> > > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also

Adhya

> > > Nadi have No dosha.

> > > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to

worry.

> > > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)

> > > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.

> > > >

> > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not

count

> > > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8

marks

> > > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you

never

> come

> > > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.

> > > >

> > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but

they

> have

> > > no child.

> > > >

> > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE

> > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -

> > > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA

> > > >

> > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE

> > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4

> > > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA

> > > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi

dosha

> but

> > > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all

data as

> > per

> > > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted

so i

> > > have to check all again)

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > >

> > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Satish, Kanak,

> > > >

> > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the

> consent

> > of

> > > > parents due to some negative significators.

> > > >

> > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like

> Criterion

> > > No.

> > > > 10 in KP Matching.

> > > >

> > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score

would

> > be

> > > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is

why

> > > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the

> cases

> > > of

> > > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores

are

> > > around

> > > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for

> Camilla.

> > > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10)

for

> > Diana

> > > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed

to

> be

> > > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a

> > child).

> > > >

> > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't

work

> for

> > > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance,

> > passion,

> > > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they

fight,

> will

> > > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and

Practice of

> > > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6)

> > > >

> > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for

> > > Westerners

> > > > and modernized Indian new generation?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > , " R Satish "

<rsatish1942@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,:

and

> > > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.

> > > > >

> > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time

> yesterday.According

> > > > to

> > > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived

> objection

> > (

> > > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical

> approach

> > > is

> > > > > being followed in this case.

> > > > >

> > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed

> > > > towards

> > > > > this issue.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Satish

> > > > >

> > > > > , Kanak Bosmia

> <kanakbosmia@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am

intrested in

> > > > this

> > > > > rule.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the

house

> > does

> > > > > not

> > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the

> house

> > is

> > > > > empty,

> > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in

its

> > > stars.

> > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as

> significator

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and

the

> > > > practice,

> > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D

> (A,B,C

> > > > > BLANK),

> > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have

the

> Sub

> > > as

> > > > D.

> > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-

lord

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is

logical,

> > since

> > > > the

> > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that

house.

> > The

> > > > > Lord

> > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨

> > > > > >

> > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have

you

> > > check

> > > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this

> > subject.

> > > > it

> > > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found

> > failore

> > > > and

> > > > > unexpected signficatore seen.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai,

> KPAstro --

> > >

> > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc

Cn

> 01-

> > > 22-

> > > > > 09,

> > > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal

0y-6m-

> > 26d

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada,

KPAstro --

> >

> > > > > 16N31,

> > > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-

52-

> 43,

> > > > Moon

> > > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-

7d.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching

> > Percentage

> > > > is

> > > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's

experience)

> > > > Criterion

> > > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion

6 &

> 9.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP

signifies

> > 2,

> > > 7

> > > > as

> > > > > > shown below.)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star.

> > > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in

JUP

> star

> > > (Pl

> > > > > see

> > > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant)

houses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10

houses

> > for

> > > > > which

> > > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET

conj

> MER

> > > in

> > > > 8

> > > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o

5,

> JUP

> > in

> > > 2

> > > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3

l/o

> > 7,

> > > 8,

> > > > > > 9.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10

> > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10

> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 &

4.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > + No planet in JUP star

> > > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1

& 2

> > are

> > > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4

are

> > > also

> > > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2,

with

> a

> > > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may

not

> > > > signified

> > > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the

same

> as

> > > per

> > > > > KP

> > > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance

to

> the

> > > > role

> > > > > > of star.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th

> > cuspal

> > > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5,

JUP

> in

> > 2

> > > > l/o

> > > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o

4,

> 12.

> > > > RAH's

> > > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )

> > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2

> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p

> > > > > >

> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star

> > > > > > * VEN in own star

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.

> > > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant)

houses.

> > > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which

MOO

> is

> > > > > cuspal

> > > > > > sublord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2

> > > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p

> > > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep

> > > > > >

> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star

> > > > > > * VEN in own star

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-

> 2008).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and

JUP

> in

> > > 4.4,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a

> > decider

> > > > for

> > > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also

> > > considered

> > > > as

> > > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses

in

> > step

> > > 3

> > > > > and

> > > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other

words

> > > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to

> > signification

> > > > of

> > > > > > step 1 and 2.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many

charts

> that

> > > > > sublord

> > > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in

> > planet

> > > > and

> > > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord

> > > > > signification

> > > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11

> > > signification

> > > > by

> > > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate

can

> be

> > > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these

> > > > significations

> > > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of

life

> > or

> > > > > death,

> > > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a

real

> test

> > > of

> > > > > > experience and expertise.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9

> > > signification

> > > > > by

> > > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by

favorable

> > > Cuspal

> > > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub

> lord

> > > > > > interlinks by Khullar).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate

> marriage

> > by

> > > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses

5

> > (love

> > > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment,

martial

> > > life,

> > > > > > getting dowry).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and

negative

> > > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage

and

> > > > > separation

> > > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape

from

> > > danger

> > > > > at

> > > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is

the

> > solely

> > > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of

1st

> > > house

> > > > > as

> > > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the

house

> > does

> > > > not

> > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the

> house

> > is

> > > > > empty,

> > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in

its

> > > stars.

> > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as

> significator

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and

the

> > > > practice,

> > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D

> (A,B,C

> > > > > BLANK),

> > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have

the

> Sub

> > > as

> > > > D.

> > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-

lord

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is

logical,

> > since

> > > > the

> > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that

house.

> > The

> > > > > Lord

> > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be

significator

> of

> > 6

> > > > > house

> > > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not

to

> take

> > > as

> > > > a

> > > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as

> > > > significator

> > > > > of

> > > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO.

However,

> > only

> > > D-

> > > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example

charts

> > in

> > > KP

> > > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and

KP

> > > > Readers

> > > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further

> > consideration

> > > > of

> > > > > > sublord of planets or cusps.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP

Bhukti

> can

> > > be

> > > > > done

> > > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs

> > signifying

> > > 2,

> > > > > 7,

> > > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for

marriage

> > is

> > > > RAH-

> > > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary

> > Significator

> > > > of

> > > > > 7,

> > > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara

lord

> KET,

> > a

> > > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a

appropriate

> > > choice.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her

7th

> > cuspal

> > > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord

KET

> > > > indicate

> > > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of

Matching

> > > > > (Likelihood

> > > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-

2006

> to

> > > 14-

> > > > 10-

> > > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6,

marriage is

> > > > > possible

> > > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit

> effects

> > > > > Girl's

> > > > > > 7 house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia

> > <kanakbosmia@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Satish ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > as per me:

> > > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA

nadi

> as

> > > > > > Santan yog is forseen.

> > > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.

> > > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for

> > > marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both

> brahmins

> > > and

> > > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the

girl

> > in

> > > > > > Mumbai.

> > > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is

> > opposition

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b)

same

> > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying

> > > > separately.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-

> > > > > > > madhyam nadi).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair

> > > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Satish

> > > > > > >

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May 22, 2007

Dear Dr. Arun,

I am a KP learner not a guru. That is why I posted the case for

other members' comment. DOB corrected version is in Msg#13272.

Regards,

tw

, arun chhonkar <arunchhonkar

wrote:

>

> Respected guruji,

> Thanaks for the mail. I read the mail. But in your analysis you

took my date of birth as 16.08.1971 (sixteen Aug) but actually it is

15 Aug which i wrote in my mail.

> Is there any correction in the analysis due to this.

> If yes then kindly correct. I posted my quarry on the kp group

portal but all the prediction were wrong.

> Kindly go through it.

> Thanks Again

> With Warm Regards

> Dr. Arun

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Kanak and Members,

>

> A break down before marriage may be better because a low No. 10

> score in KPDP is a cause for concern in deed. In the case of

> Elizabeth Taylor and Michael Todd with No. 10 score 17% only out

of

> overall scores 72%, Michael Todd was killed in a plane crash in

13th

> month after marriage.

>

> For your comment, here is an exercise for child birth prediction.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> Kindly help regarding following problem:

> I don't have any issue (children). When i will be blessed with a

> son. My date of marriage is 08.05.1998 and other Deatils is as

> follows.

>

> Myself:------

> DOB: 15 Aug 1971

> Time : 15.45

> Place: Dholpur (Rajasthan)

>

> Wife:

> DOB 11 Oct 1975

> Time: 06.00

> Place: Bharatpur (Rajasthan)

>

> I am giving no.243 to cast a chart

> Thanks

> Regards

> ARUN

>

> 1. Birth Details

>

> i)Husband,16-08-1971,15-45pm,Sid13-03-

> 14,Dholpur,Rajasthan,26N42,77E54,Aridra star,Pada1,NewKPA23-22-

> 15,Asc Sag09-35-33(KPAstro2.7)

>

> ii)Wife, 11-10-1975,06-00am,Sid06-55-

> 52,Bharatpur,Rajasthan,27N13,77E29,Moola star,Pada4,NewKPA23-25-

> 43,AscVi19-00-10(KPAstro2.7)

>

> 2. Analysis of Wife's Chart

>

> 2.1. 5 th cuspal sublord is VEN.

>

> 1) Plt VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.

> 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9)

> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> cuspal sublord.)

> 3) Sbl SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.

> 4) Sbl SAT is in 10p l/o 5, 6.

>

> + = No planet is in VEN star; P/p= Primary significator as per 4-

> Step Method

>

> i) As per KP, child birth is promised as 11, 2, 5 houses are

> signified in step 1 & 2 (also 5th house in step 3).

>

> ii)As per latest explanations of 4-Step Method, a promise for

child

> birth is not clear because 11th house is Primary significator in

> step 1 & 2 but 10th house (12 to 11th) is a Primary negative

> significator in step 4 which is given priority together with step

2.

>

> 2.2. Current running dasa lord is MOO.

>

> 1) Plt MOO is in 3 l/o 11.

> 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)

> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> cuspal sublord.)

> 3) Sbl MER is in 1 l/o 1, 10.

> 4) Sbl MOO is in 3p l/o 11.

>

> i) As per KP, MOO is supposed to be a fruitful significator for

> child birth because significator of 11, 2, 5 houses in step 1 & 2

is

> supported by signification of 11th in step 4 (despite

signification

> of 1, 10 houses in step 3).

>

> ii) As per 4-Step Method, it may be the same possibility as 11th

is

> a Primary significator in 2nd step despite no Primary significator

> for child birth in step 3 & 4.

>

> 2.3. Current running Bhukti is SAT, i.e. MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007 to

> 02-08-2008)

>

> 1) Plt SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.

> 2) Stl SAT is in 10p l/o 5Ep, 6Ep.

> 3) Sbl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.

> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> cuspal sublord.)

> 4) Sbl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)

> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> cuspal sublord.)

>

> E= Empty house

>

> i) As per KP, it is possible to have a child during MOO-SAT DB (02-

> 01-2007 to 02-08-2008) because significator of 5th house in step 1

&

> 2 is supported by significator of 2,5,11 in step 3 & 4 (and 10

> house in step 1 & 2 is not supported by significator of 2,5,8,9,11

> in step 3 & 4.)

>

> ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary

> significator of 5th house in Step 2 and Primary significator of

11th

> house in Step 3 & 4.

>

> 3. Analysis of Husband's Chart

>

> 3.1. 11th & 5th cuspal sublord is SAT.

>

> 1) Plt SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3.

> 2) Stl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.

> 3) Sbl RAH in 2 (Sgl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3)

> RAH conj MAR (w/n 30min) + in 2P l/o 5Ep, 12Ep.

> 4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.

>

> i) As per KP, a child is promised as 5, 2 houses are signified in

> step 1 (and in step 3).

>

> ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same promise because of Primary

> significator of 5th house in Step 1 & 3 and Primary significator

of

> 2, 5 houses in Step 3.

>

> 3.2. Current running dasa is SAT-SAT DB (12-05-2005 to 14-05-2008)

>

> Referring 3.1,

>

> i) As per KP, it is possible to get a child during SAT-SAT DB (12-

05-

> 2005 to 14-05-2008) because significator of 2, 5 houses in step 1

is

> supported by significator of 2, 5 in step 3.

>

> ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary

> significator of 5th house in Step 1 and Primary significator of 5,

2

> houses in Step 3..

>

> 4. The nearest possible period to have a child is:

>

> 02-01-2007 to 14-05-2008

>

> as a result of reconciling 2.3 & 3.2.

>

> 5. The next possible period to have a child is:

>

> 24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012

>

> as a result of reconciling MOO-VEN DB (03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012)

> for wife and SAT-KET DB (24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012) for husband..

>

> , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tin Win ji,

> >

> > A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP,

> >

> > on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching,

> they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes,

> and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not

> good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26

> as per Kutta matching.

> >

> > Today just now i received phone from my client that this

> engagement was broken.

> >

> > detail:

> >

> BOY: GIRL

> >

> > Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 -

> 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0

> > PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD

> INDIA

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > Dear Vishwanath, Kanak,

> >

> > For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:

> >

> > Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35

> >

> > Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vishwanath ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for detiels about both chart.

> > >

> > > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which

> > you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your

> > reply i will write more data.

> > > as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give

> > reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look

i

> > will post some more data.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:

> > > Dear Sirs

> > >

> > > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited

in

> > Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of

> > marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked,

vedic

> > methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility.

> > >

> > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus

in

> > male chart.

> > >

> > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and

quarrels,

> > but continue to live under one roof.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Mk Viswanath

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:

> > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > >

> > > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether

thats

> > all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi

> > dosha.couple is Brahamin.

> > >

> > > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT

> > GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA

> > > GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR

> > Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA

> > >

> > > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no

harmoney

> > btwin both but due to child they live to gether.

> > >

> > > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you

> > try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy

> > KPDP criteria no: 10.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > Dear Kanak,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your view.

> > >

> > > Some views are below.

> > >

> > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the " same " nadi. then

> here

> > > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is

> > only

> > > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two

> > people

> > > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be

> > > considered because God is trying to bring the two people

> together

> > > through natural processes.

> > >

> > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is

> > > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha'

in

> > this

> > > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring

of

> > > points should be ignored and the compatability should be

> > > considered as 'Poor'.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With

> > > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.

> > > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi

> dosha,

> > > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin

> > only,

> > > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast

of

> > > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also

Adhya

> > > Nadi have No dosha.

> > > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.

> > > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)

> > > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.

> > > >

> > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not

count

> > > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks

> > > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never

> come

> > > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.

> > > >

> > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they

> have

> > > no child.

> > > >

> > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE

> > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -

> > > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA

> > > >

> > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE

> > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4

> > > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA

> > > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha

> but

> > > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data

as

> > per

> > > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so

i

> > > have to check all again)

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > >

> > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Satish, Kanak,

> > > >

> > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the

> consent

> > of

> > > > parents due to some negative significators.

> > > >

> > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like

> Criterion

> > > No.

> > > > 10 in KP Matching.

> > > >

> > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score

would

> > be

> > > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is

why

> > > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the

> cases

> > > of

> > > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are

> > > around

> > > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for

> Camilla.

> > > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for

> > Diana

> > > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed

to

> be

> > > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a

> > child).

> > > >

> > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work

> for

> > > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance,

> > passion,

> > > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight,

> will

> > > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice

of

> > > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6)

> > > >

> > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for

> > > Westerners

> > > > and modernized Indian new generation?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > , " R Satish " <rsatish1942@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,:

and

> > > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.

> > > > >

> > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time

> yesterday.According

> > > > to

> > > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived

> objection

> > (

> > > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical

> approach

> > > is

> > > > > being followed in this case.

> > > > >

> > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed

> > > > towards

> > > > > this issue.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Satish

> > > > >

> > > > > , Kanak Bosmia

> <kanakbosmia@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested

in

> > > > this

> > > > > rule.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the

house

> > does

> > > > > not

> > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the

> house

> > is

> > > > > empty,

> > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in

its

> > > stars.

> > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as

> significator

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the

> > > > practice,

> > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D

> (A,B,C

> > > > > BLANK),

> > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the

> Sub

> > > as

> > > > D.

> > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-

lord

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical,

> > since

> > > > the

> > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that

house.

> > The

> > > > > Lord

> > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨

> > > > > >

> > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have

you

> > > check

> > > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this

> > subject.

> > > > it

> > > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found

> > failore

> > > > and

> > > > > unexpected signficatore seen.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai,

> KPAstro --

> > >

> > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc

Cn

> 01-

> > > 22-

> > > > > 09,

> > > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-

6m-

> > 26d

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada,

KPAstro --

> >

> > > > > 16N31,

> > > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-

> 43,

> > > > Moon

> > > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching

> > Percentage

> > > > is

> > > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience)

> > > > Criterion

> > > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6

&

> 9.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP

signifies

> > 2,

> > > 7

> > > > as

> > > > > > shown below.)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star.

> > > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP

> star

> > > (Pl

> > > > > see

> > > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10

houses

> > for

> > > > > which

> > > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj

> MER

> > > in

> > > > 8

> > > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5,

> JUP

> > in

> > > 2

> > > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3

l/o

> > 7,

> > > 8,

> > > > > > 9.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10

> > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10

> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > + No planet in JUP star

> > > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 &

2

> > are

> > > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4

are

> > > also

> > > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2,

with

> a

> > > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not

> > > > signified

> > > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the

same

> as

> > > per

> > > > > KP

> > > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to

> the

> > > > role

> > > > > > of star.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th

> > cuspal

> > > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5,

JUP

> in

> > 2

> > > > l/o

> > > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4,

> 12.

> > > > RAH's

> > > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )

> > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2

> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p

> > > > > >

> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star

> > > > > > * VEN in own star

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.

> > > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.

> > > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which

MOO

> is

> > > > > cuspal

> > > > > > sublord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2

> > > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p

> > > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep

> > > > > >

> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star

> > > > > > * VEN in own star

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-

> 2008).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and

JUP

> in

> > > 4.4,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a

> > decider

> > > > for

> > > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also

> > > considered

> > > > as

> > > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses

in

> > step

> > > 3

> > > > > and

> > > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other

words

> > > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to

> > signification

> > > > of

> > > > > > step 1 and 2.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts

> that

> > > > > sublord

> > > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in

> > planet

> > > > and

> > > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord

> > > > > signification

> > > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11

> > > signification

> > > > by

> > > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate

can

> be

> > > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these

> > > > significations

> > > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of

life

> > or

> > > > > death,

> > > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real

> test

> > > of

> > > > > > experience and expertise.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9

> > > signification

> > > > > by

> > > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable

> > > Cuspal

> > > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub

> lord

> > > > > > interlinks by Khullar).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate

> marriage

> > by

> > > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5

> > (love

> > > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment,

martial

> > > life,

> > > > > > getting dowry).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and

negative

> > > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and

> > > > > separation

> > > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape

from

> > > danger

> > > > > at

> > > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the

> > solely

> > > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of

1st

> > > house

> > > > > as

> > > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the

house

> > does

> > > > not

> > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the

> house

> > is

> > > > > empty,

> > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in

its

> > > stars.

> > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as

> significator

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the

> > > > practice,

> > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D

> (A,B,C

> > > > > BLANK),

> > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the

> Sub

> > > as

> > > > D.

> > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-

lord

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical,

> > since

> > > > the

> > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that

house.

> > The

> > > > > Lord

> > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be

significator

> of

> > 6

> > > > > house

> > > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to

> take

> > > as

> > > > a

> > > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as

> > > > significator

> > > > > of

> > > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However,

> > only

> > > D-

> > > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example

charts

> > in

> > > KP

> > > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and

KP

> > > > Readers

> > > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further

> > consideration

> > > > of

> > > > > > sublord of planets or cusps.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti

> can

> > > be

> > > > > done

> > > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs

> > signifying

> > > 2,

> > > > > 7,

> > > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for

marriage

> > is

> > > > RAH-

> > > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary

> > Significator

> > > > of

> > > > > 7,

> > > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord

> KET,

> > a

> > > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a

appropriate

> > > choice.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th

> > cuspal

> > > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord

KET

> > > > indicate

> > > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching

> > > > > (Likelihood

> > > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-

2006

> to

> > > 14-

> > > > 10-

> > > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage

is

> > > > > possible

> > > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit

> effects

> > > > > Girl's

> > > > > > 7 house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia

> > <kanakbosmia@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Satish ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > as per me:

> > > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA

nadi

> as

> > > > > > Santan yog is forseen.

> > > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.

> > > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for

> > > marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both

> brahmins

> > > and

> > > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the

girl

> > in

> > > > > > Mumbai.

> > > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is

> > opposition

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same

> > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying

> > > > separately.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-

> > > > > > > madhyam nadi).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair

> > > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Satish

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest.

> > > > > > > Straight trees are cut first

> > > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first. "

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May 22, 2007

Dear Swami ji,

1. I'm also trying to learn KP vz 4-Step. That is why I'm posting

some cases for comments form both KP and 4-Step members. The

corrected version of the latest case is in Msg#13272 (for child

birth only; Pl note the corrected star for husband of DOB August 15

should be Mrigasira, Pada 1). Your comments and SW results of

significators will be helpful for study.

2. For the second case, perhaps Mr. Satish has already explained.

3. Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar has not yet answered my questios as he

mentioned and he is telling to order his book to understand his 4-

Step. Let us try to understand 4-Step from availabe postings, notes,

E-zine article etc. But I con't know who is the authority, Mr. Sunil

Gondhalekar, the inventor or Mr. Raichur, the promotor?

Thanks and regards,

tw

, <swami wrote:

>

> II Om Gurave Namah II

> Hari OM

> Dear tin win ji,

> I wanted To learn 4 step analysis application from your recent

postings, otherwise My software gives me significator starigt way

in this Method also.You explained each step carefully .

> .

> I am sorry to observe that In case of Tamilian boy and Andhra

girl case, the data shows Thurs day that is not possible for 20 May

1980.

> Since data was incorrect analysis was inapplicable in both cases

marriage compatibility and general marriage suitability.

> In second case again I found date of one " Myself " was incorrect

however later corrected but again I could not Make out What are your

findings.

> I am curious after so much effort and labour done by You , What is

ultimate analysis In both cases and your valued prediction.

> I am also curious Why KP analysis is not relied upon now a days ?

> You mentioned Four step is still under probe( something like

it ),It shall be educative if Simultaneous KP ananlysis is also

posted.

> Since Sh Sunil Ji is also member of the Group , I request him to

post his views on These or some other cases for benefit of students,

before they can get access to his Book in English.

>

> May I qout swami Omkar " from past 40yrs people learning KP. but

most of the people not getting perfect answer. the reason is they

doesn't know how to apply the RP. but they are not understanding

that and telling faults in ayanamsa or sub lord theory. and finding

new theory in KP "

> As student I wish I could find truth by Learning from experts in

this group.

> PS 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the

consent of parents due to some negative significators.

> 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion

No. 10 in KP Matching.

> So this is the summary But date is 20 May and constellation was in

cancer Nakshatra Ashlesha and not as indicated.

>

> .

> With kind regards.

>

> OM TATSAT

> ------------------------

> R.C.Srivastava

> ------------------------

> " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being

who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> -

> tw853

>

> Monday, May 21, 2007 6:58 AM

> Re: Inter-community marriage -- - Child

birth exercise

>

> Dear Kanak and Members,

>

> A break down before marriage may be better because a low No. 10

> score in KPDP is a cause for concern in deed. In the case of

> Elizabeth Taylor and Michael Todd with No. 10 score 17% only out

of

> overall scores 72%, Michael Todd was killed in a plane crash in

13th

> month after marriage.

>

> For your comment, here is an exercise for child birth prediction.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> Kindly help regarding following problem:

> I don't have any issue (children). When i will be blessed with a

> son. My date of marriage is 08.05.1998 and other Deatils is as

> follows.

>

> Myself:------

> DOB: 15 Aug 1971

> Time : 15.45

> Place: Dholpur (Rajasthan)

>

> Wife:

> DOB 11 Oct 1975

> Time: 06.00

> Place: Bharatpur (Rajasthan)

>

> I am giving no.243 to cast a chart

> Thanks

> Regards

> ARUN

>

> 1. Birth Details

>

> i)Husband,16-08-1971,15-45pm,Sid13-03-

> 14,Dholpur,Rajasthan,26N42,77E54,Aridra star,Pada1,NewKPA23-22-

> 15,Asc Sag09-35-33(KPAstro2.7)

>

> ii)Wife, 11-10-1975,06-00am,Sid06-55-

> 52,Bharatpur,Rajasthan,27N13,77E29,Moola star,Pada4,NewKPA23-25-

> 43,AscVi19-00-10(KPAstro2.7)

>

> 2. Analysis of Wife's Chart

>

> 2.1. 5 th cuspal sublord is VEN.

>

> 1) Plt VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.

> 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9)

> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> cuspal sublord.)

> 3) Sbl SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.

> 4) Sbl SAT is in 10p l/o 5, 6.

>

> + = No planet is in VEN star; P/p= Primary significator as per 4-

> Step Method

>

> i) As per KP, child birth is promised as 11, 2, 5 houses are

> signified in step 1 & 2 (also 5th house in step 3).

>

> ii)As per latest explanations of 4-Step Method, a promise for

child

> birth is not clear because 11th house is Primary significator in

> step 1 & 2 but 10th house (12 to 11th) is a Primary negative

> significator in step 4 which is given priority together with

step 2.

>

> 2.2. Current running dasa lord is MOO.

>

> 1) Plt MOO is in 3 l/o 11.

> 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)

> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> cuspal sublord.)

> 3) Sbl MER is in 1 l/o 1, 10.

> 4) Sbl MOO is in 3p l/o 11.

>

> i) As per KP, MOO is supposed to be a fruitful significator for

> child birth because significator of 11, 2, 5 houses in step 1 &

2 is

> supported by signification of 11th in step 4 (despite

signification

> of 1, 10 houses in step 3).

>

> ii) As per 4-Step Method, it may be the same possibility as 11th

is

> a Primary significator in 2nd step despite no Primary

significator

> for child birth in step 3 & 4.

>

> 2.3. Current running Bhukti is SAT, i.e. MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007

to

> 02-08-2008)

>

> 1) Plt SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.

> 2) Stl SAT is in 10p l/o 5Ep, 6Ep.

> 3) Sbl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.

> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> cuspal sublord.)

> 4) Sbl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)

> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> cuspal sublord.)

>

> E= Empty house

>

> i) As per KP, it is possible to have a child during MOO-SAT DB

(02-

> 01-2007 to 02-08-2008) because significator of 5th house in step

1 &

> 2 is supported by significator of 2,5,11 in step 3 & 4 (and 10

> house in step 1 & 2 is not supported by significator of

2,5,8,9,11

> in step 3 & 4.)

>

> ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of

Primary

> significator of 5th house in Step 2 and Primary significator of

11th

> house in Step 3 & 4.

>

> 3. Analysis of Husband's Chart

>

> 3.1. 11th & 5th cuspal sublord is SAT.

>

> 1) Plt SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3.

> 2) Stl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.

> 3) Sbl RAH in 2 (Sgl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3)

> RAH conj MAR (w/n 30min) + in 2P l/o 5Ep, 12Ep.

> 4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.

>

> i) As per KP, a child is promised as 5, 2 houses are signified

in

> step 1 (and in step 3).

>

> ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same promise because of Primary

> significator of 5th house in Step 1 & 3 and Primary significator

of

> 2, 5 houses in Step 3.

>

> 3.2. Current running dasa is SAT-SAT DB (12-05-2005 to 14-05-

2008)

>

> Referring 3.1,

>

> i) As per KP, it is possible to get a child during SAT-SAT DB

(12-05-

> 2005 to 14-05-2008) because significator of 2, 5 houses in step

1 is

> supported by significator of 2, 5 in step 3.

>

> ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of

Primary

> significator of 5th house in Step 1 and Primary significator of

5, 2

> houses in Step 3..

>

> 4. The nearest possible period to have a child is:

>

> 02-01-2007 to 14-05-2008

>

> as a result of reconciling 2.3 & 3.2.

>

> 5. The next possible period to have a child is:

>

> 24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012

>

> as a result of reconciling MOO-VEN DB (03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012)

> for wife and SAT-KET DB (24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012) for husband..

>

> , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tin Win ji,

> >

> > A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP,

> >

> > on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for

matching,

> they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says

Yes,

> and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was

not

> good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are

26

> as per Kutta matching.

> >

> > Today just now i received phone from my client that this

> engagement was broken.

> >

> > detail:

> >

> BOY: GIRL

> >

> > Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 -

> 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0

> > PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD

> INDIA

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > Dear Vishwanath, Kanak,

> >

> > For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:

> >

> > Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35

> >

> > Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vishwanath ji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for detiels about both chart.

> > >

> > > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition

which

> > you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after

your

> > reply i will write more data.

> > > as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never

give

> > reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to

look i

> > will post some more data.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:

> > > Dear Sirs

> > >

> > > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars

posited in

> > Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of

> > marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked,

vedic

> > methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility.

> > >

> > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or

Venus in

> > male chart.

> > >

> > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and

quarrels,

> > but continue to live under one roof.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Mk Viswanath

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:

> > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > >

> > > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether

thats

> > all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no

nadi

> > dosha.couple is Brahamin.

> > >

> > > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT

> > GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA

> > > GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR

> > Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA

> > >

> > > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no

harmoney

> > btwin both but due to child they live to gether.

> > >

> > > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if

you

> > try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear,

specialy

> > KPDP criteria no: 10.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > Dear Kanak,

> > >

> > > Thanks for your view.

> > >

> > > Some views are below.

> > >

> > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the " same " nadi.

then

> here

> > > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh

is

> > only

> > > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two

> > people

> > > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be

> > > considered because God is trying to bring the two people

> together

> > > through natural processes.

> > >

> > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is

> > > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha'

in

> > this

> > > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring

of

> > > points should be ignored and the compatability should be

> > > considered as 'Poor'.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > , Kanak Bosmia

<kanakbosmia@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity.

With

> > > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.

> > > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi

> dosha,

> > > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for

Brahamin

> > only,

> > > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge

cast of

> > > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also

Adhya

> > > Nadi have No dosha.

> > > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to

worry.

> > > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)

> > > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.

> > > >

> > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not

count

> > > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8

marks

> > > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you

never

> come

> > > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.

> > > >

> > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but

they

> have

> > > no child.

> > > >

> > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE

> > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -

> > > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA

> > > >

> > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE

> > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4

> > > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA

> > > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi

dosha

> but

> > > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all

data as

> > per

> > > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted

so i

> > > have to check all again)

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > >

> > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Satish, Kanak,

> > > >

> > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the

> consent

> > of

> > > > parents due to some negative significators.

> > > >

> > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like

> Criterion

> > > No.

> > > > 10 in KP Matching.

> > > >

> > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score

would

> > be

> > > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is

why

> > > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the

> cases

> > > of

> > > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores

are

> > > around

> > > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for

> Camilla.

> > > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10)

for

> > Diana

> > > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed

to

> be

> > > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a

> > child).

> > > >

> > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't

work

> for

> > > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance,

> > passion,

> > > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they

fight,

> will

> > > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and

Practice of

> > > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6)

> > > >

> > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for

> > > Westerners

> > > > and modernized Indian new generation?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > , " R Satish "

<rsatish1942@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,:

and

> > > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.

> > > > >

> > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time

> yesterday.According

> > > > to

> > > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived

> objection

> > (

> > > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical

> approach

> > > is

> > > > > being followed in this case.

> > > > >

> > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed

> > > > towards

> > > > > this issue.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Satish

> > > > >

> > > > > , Kanak Bosmia

> <kanakbosmia@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am

intrested in

> > > > this

> > > > > rule.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the

house

> > does

> > > > > not

> > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the

> house

> > is

> > > > > empty,

> > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in

its

> > > stars.

> > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as

> significator

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and

the

> > > > practice,

> > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D

> (A,B,C

> > > > > BLANK),

> > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have

the

> Sub

> > > as

> > > > D.

> > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-

lord

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is

logical,

> > since

> > > > the

> > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that

house.

> > The

> > > > > Lord

> > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨

> > > > > >

> > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have

you

> > > check

> > > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this

> > subject.

> > > > it

> > > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found

> > failore

> > > > and

> > > > > unexpected signficatore seen.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai,

> KPAstro --

> > >

> > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc

Cn

> 01-

> > > 22-

> > > > > 09,

> > > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal

0y-6m-

> > 26d

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada,

KPAstro --

> >

> > > > > 16N31,

> > > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-

52-

> 43,

> > > > Moon

> > > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-

7d.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching

> > Percentage

> > > > is

> > > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's

experience)

> > > > Criterion

> > > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion

6 &

> 9.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP

signifies

> > 2,

> > > 7

> > > > as

> > > > > > shown below.)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star.

> > > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in

JUP

> star

> > > (Pl

> > > > > see

> > > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant)

houses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10

houses

> > for

> > > > > which

> > > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET

conj

> MER

> > > in

> > > > 8

> > > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o

5,

> JUP

> > in

> > > 2

> > > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3

l/o

> > 7,

> > > 8,

> > > > > > 9.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10

> > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10

> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 &

4.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > + No planet in JUP star

> > > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1

& 2

> > are

> > > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4

are

> > > also

> > > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2,

with

> a

> > > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may

not

> > > > signified

> > > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the

same

> as

> > > per

> > > > > KP

> > > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance

to

> the

> > > > role

> > > > > > of star.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th

> > cuspal

> > > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5,

JUP

> in

> > 2

> > > > l/o

> > > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o

4,

> 12.

> > > > RAH's

> > > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )

> > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2

> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p

> > > > > >

> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star

> > > > > > * VEN in own star

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.

> > > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant)

houses.

> > > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which

MOO

> is

> > > > > cuspal

> > > > > > sublord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2

> > > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p

> > > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep

> > > > > >

> > > > > > + No planet in MOO star

> > > > > > * VEN in own star

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-

> 2008).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and

JUP

> in

> > > 4.4,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a

> > decider

> > > > for

> > > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also

> > > considered

> > > > as

> > > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses

in

> > step

> > > 3

> > > > > and

> > > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other

words

> > > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to

> > signification

> > > > of

> > > > > > step 1 and 2.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many

charts

> that

> > > > > sublord

> > > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in

> > planet

> > > > and

> > > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord

> > > > > signification

> > > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11

> > > signification

> > > > by

> > > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate

can

> be

> > > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these

> > > > significations

> > > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of

life

> > or

> > > > > death,

> > > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a

real

> test

> > > of

> > > > > > experience and expertise.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9

> > > signification

> > > > > by

> > > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by

favorable

> > > Cuspal

> > > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub

> lord

> > > > > > interlinks by Khullar).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate

> marriage

> > by

> > > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses

5

> > (love

> > > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment,

martial

> > > life,

> > > > > > getting dowry).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and

negative

> > > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage

and

> > > > > separation

> > > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape

from

> > > danger

> > > > > at

> > > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is

the

> > solely

> > > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of

1st

> > > house

> > > > > as

> > > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the

house

> > does

> > > > not

> > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the

> house

> > is

> > > > > empty,

> > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in

its

> > > stars.

> > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as

> significator

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and

the

> > > > practice,

> > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D

> (A,B,C

> > > > > BLANK),

> > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have

the

> Sub

> > > as

> > > > D.

> > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-

lord

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is

logical,

> > since

> > > > the

> > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that

house.

> > The

> > > > > Lord

> > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be

significator

> of

> > 6

> > > > > house

> > > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not

to

> take

> > > as

> > > > a

> > > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as

> > > > significator

> > > > > of

> > > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO.

However,

> > only

> > > D-

> > > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example

charts

> > in

> > > KP

> > > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and

KP

> > > > Readers

> > > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further

> > consideration

> > > > of

> > > > > > sublord of planets or cusps.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP

Bhukti

> can

> > > be

> > > > > done

> > > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs

> > signifying

> > > 2,

> > > > > 7,

> > > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for

marriage

> > is

> > > > RAH-

> > > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary

> > Significator

> > > > of

> > > > > 7,

> > > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara

lord

> KET,

> > a

> > > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a

appropriate

> > > choice.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her

7th

> > cuspal

> > > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord

KET

> > > > indicate

> > > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of

Matching

> > > > > (Likelihood

> > > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-

2006

> to

> > > 14-

> > > > 10-

> > > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6,

marriage is

> > > > > possible

> > > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit

> effects

> > > > > Girl's

> > > > > > 7 house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia

> > <kanakbosmia@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Satish ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > as per me:

> > > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA

nadi

> as

> > > > > > Santan yog is forseen.

> > > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.

> > > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for

> > > marriage.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both

> brahmins

> > > and

> > > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the

girl

> > in

> > > > > > Mumbai.

> > > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is

> > opposition

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b)

same

> > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying

> > > > separately.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-

> > > > > > > madhyam nadi).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair

> > > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.

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May 22, 2007

Dear friends,

I did not blame anyone. Errors are part of life.

My postings are part of self learning efforts.I am always humble and has no intension ever to belittle any one.

My ISP has frequent service problems .To day at 19:44 on 22 may 2007 only I got mails suddenly from K-P_system

Groups, by that time much activity like correct analysis was already posted By Tinwin ji, That could be is the reason

of confusion: that is purly beyond my control and knowledge.

Please see technical disturbance in like archives missings of many group and missing postings as well as delayed apperance ,etc are common inthis month.

I thank members for their tolerance and untiring efforts to share .

Thanks

OM TAT SAT

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R Satish

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:51 PM

Re: Inter-community marriage -- - Child birth exercise

Dear Sri RCS and friends,Sri RCS, please read associated mails where I gave correct birth details.20th may 1980 shud be read as 20 march 1980.friends, I have observed there are mischievious elements who are create wrong postings.Missing postings etcUsually the language of the members is well described,if anything unusual please treat it as from a prankster.Regards,Satish , <swami wrote:>> > II Om Gurave Namah II> Hari OM> Dear tin win ji,> I wanted To learn 4 step analysis application from your recent postings, otherwise My software gives me significator starigt way in this Method also.You explained each step carefully .> .> I am sorry to observe that In case of Tamilian boy and Andhra girl case, the data shows Thurs day that is not possible for 20 May 1980.> Since data was incorrect analysis was inapplicable in both cases marriage compatibility and general marriage suitability.> In second case again I found date of one "Myself" was incorrect however later corrected but again I could not Make out What are your findings.> I am curious after so much effort and labour done by You , What is ultimate analysis In both cases and your valued prediction.> I am also curious Why KP analysis is not relied upon now a days ? > You mentioned Four step is still under probe( something like it ),It shall be educative if Simultaneous KP ananlysis is also posted.> Since Sh Sunil Ji is also member of the Group , I request him to post his views on These or some other cases for benefit of students, before they can get access to his Book in English.> > May I qout swami Omkar"from past 40yrs people learning KP. but most of the people not getting perfect answer. the reason is they doesn't know how to apply the RP. but they are not understanding that and telling faults in ayanamsa or sub lord theory. and finding new theory in KP"> As student I wish I could find truth by Learning from experts in this group.> PS 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of parents due to some negative significators. > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. 10 in KP Matching.> So this is the summary But date is 20 May and constellation was in cancer Nakshatra Ashlesha and not as indicated.> > .> With kind regards.> > > > OM TATSAT> ------------------------> R.C.Srivastava> ------------------------ > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."> - > tw853 > > Monday, May 21, 2007 6:58 AM> Re: Inter-community marriage -- - Child birth exercise> > > Dear Kanak and Members,> > A break down before marriage may be better because a low No. 10 > score in KPDP is a cause for concern in deed. In the case of > Elizabeth Taylor and Michael Todd with No. 10 score 17% only out of > overall scores 72%, Michael Todd was killed in a plane crash in 13th > month after marriage. > > For your comment, here is an exercise for child birth prediction.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > Kindly help regarding following problem:> I don't have any issue (children). When i will be blessed with a > son. My date of marriage is 08.05.1998 and other Deatils is as > follows. > > Myself:------ > DOB: 15 Aug 1971 > Time : 15.45> Place: Dholpur (Rajasthan)> > > Wife: > DOB 11 Oct 1975> Time: 06.00> Place: Bharatpur (Rajasthan)> > I am giving no.243 to cast a chart> Thanks> Regards> ARUN> > 1. Birth Details> > i)Husband,16-08-1971,15-45pm,Sid13-03-> 14,Dholpur,Rajasthan,26N42,77E54,Aridra star,Pada1,NewKPA23-22-> 15,Asc Sag09-35-33(KPAstro2.7)> > ii)Wife, 11-10-1975,06-00am,Sid06-55-> 52,Bharatpur,Rajasthan,27N13,77E29,Moola star,Pada4,NewKPA23-25-> 43,AscVi19-00-10(KPAstro2.7)> > 2. Analysis of Wife's Chart> > 2.1. 5 th cuspal sublord is VEN.> > 1) Plt VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.> 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9)> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is > cuspal sublord.)> 3) Sbl SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.> 4) Sbl SAT is in 10p l/o 5, 6.> > + = No planet is in VEN star; P/p= Primary significator as per 4-> Step Method> > i) As per KP, child birth is promised as 11, 2, 5 houses are > signified in step 1 & 2 (also 5th house in step 3).> > ii)As per latest explanations of 4-Step Method, a promise for child > birth is not clear because 11th house is Primary significator in > step 1 & 2 but 10th house (12 to 11th) is a Primary negative > significator in step 4 which is given priority together with step 2.> > 2.2. Current running dasa lord is MOO.> > 1) Plt MOO is in 3 l/o 11.> 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is > cuspal sublord.)> 3) Sbl MER is in 1 l/o 1, 10.> 4) Sbl MOO is in 3p l/o 11.> > i) As per KP, MOO is supposed to be a fruitful significator for > child birth because significator of 11, 2, 5 houses in step 1 & 2 is > supported by signification of 11th in step 4 (despite signification > of 1, 10 houses in step 3).> > ii) As per 4-Step Method, it may be the same possibility as 11th is > a Primary significator in 2nd step despite no Primary significator > for child birth in step 3 & 4.> > 2.3. Current running Bhukti is SAT, i.e. MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007 to > 02-08-2008)> > 1) Plt SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.> 2) Stl SAT is in 10p l/o 5Ep, 6Ep.> 3) Sbl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is > cuspal sublord.)> 4) Sbl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is > cuspal sublord.)> > E= Empty house> > i) As per KP, it is possible to have a child during MOO-SAT DB (02-> 01-2007 to 02-08-2008) because significator of 5th house in step 1 & > 2 is supported by significator of 2,5,11 in step 3 & 4 (and 10 > house in step 1 & 2 is not supported by significator of 2,5,8,9,11 > in step 3 & 4.)> > ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary > significator of 5th house in Step 2 and Primary significator of 11th > house in Step 3 & 4.> > 3. Analysis of Husband's Chart> > 3.1. 11th & 5th cuspal sublord is SAT.> > 1) Plt SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3.> 2) Stl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.> 3) Sbl RAH in 2 (Sgl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3)> RAH conj MAR (w/n 30min) + in 2P l/o 5Ep, 12Ep.> 4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.> > i) As per KP, a child is promised as 5, 2 houses are signified in > step 1 (and in step 3).> > ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same promise because of Primary > significator of 5th house in Step 1 & 3 and Primary significator of > 2, 5 houses in Step 3.> > 3.2. Current running dasa is SAT-SAT DB (12-05-2005 to 14-05-2008)> > Referring 3.1,> > i) As per KP, it is possible to get a child during SAT-SAT DB (12-05-> 2005 to 14-05-2008) because significator of 2, 5 houses in step 1 is > supported by significator of 2, 5 in step 3.> > ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary > significator of 5th house in Step 1 and Primary significator of 5, 2 > houses in Step 3..> > 4. The nearest possible period to have a child is:> > 02-01-2007 to 14-05-2008 > > as a result of reconciling 2.3 & 3.2.> > 5. The next possible period to have a child is:> > 24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012> > as a result of reconciling MOO-VEN DB (03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012) > for wife and SAT-KET DB (24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012) for husband..> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP,> > > > on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching, > they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes, > and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not > good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26 > as per Kutta matching.> > > > Today just now i received phone from my client that this > engagement was broken.> > > > detail:> > > > > BOY: GIRL > > > > Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - > 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 > > PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD > INDIA > > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, > > > > For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:> > > > Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 > > > > Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Vishwanath ji,> > > > > > Thanks for detiels about both chart.> > > > > > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which > > you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your > > reply i will write more data.> > > as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give > > reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i > > will post some more data.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:> > > Dear Sirs> > > > > > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in > > Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of > > marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic > > methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > > > > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in > > male chart. > > > > > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, > > but continue to live under one roof.> > > > > > Regards> > > Mk Viswanath> > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats > > all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi > > dosha.couple is Brahamin.> > > > > > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT > > GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA> > > GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR > > Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA> > > > > > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney > > btwin both but due to child they live to gether.> > > > > > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you > > try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy > > KPDP criteria no: 10.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > Thanks for your view. > > > > > > Some views are below.> > > > > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then > here > > > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is > > only > > > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two > > people > > > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > > > considered because God is trying to bring the two people > together > > > through natural processes.> > > > > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > > > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in > > this > > > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > > > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > > > considered as 'Poor'.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > > > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.> > > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi > dosha, > > > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin > > only, > > > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > > > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > > > Nadi have No dosha.> > > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > > > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > > > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > > > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never > come > > > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.> > > > > > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they > have > > > no child.> > > > > > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> > > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > > > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > > > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha > but > > > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as > > per > > > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > > > have to check all again)> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > > > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the > consent > > of > > > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > > > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like > Criterion > > > No. > > > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > > > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would > > be > > > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the > cases > > > of > > > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > > > around > > > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for > Camilla. > > > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for > > Diana > > > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to > be > > > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a > > child).> > > > > > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work > for > > > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, > > passion, > > > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, > will > > > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > > > Westerners > > > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time > yesterday.According > > > > to > > > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived > objection> > ( > > > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical > approach > > > is > > > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > > > towards > > > > > this issue.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia > <kanakbosmia@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > > > this > > > > > rule.> > > > > > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house > > does > > > > > not > > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the > house > > is > > > > > empty,> > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > > > stars. > > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as > significator > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > > > practice, > > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D > (A,B,C > > > > > BLANK), > > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the > Sub > > > as > > > > D. > > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord > of > > > the > > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, > > since > > > > the > > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. > > The > > > > > Lord > > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have you > > > check > > > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this > > subject. > > > > it > > > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found > > failore > > > > and > > > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, > KPAstro --> > > > > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn > 01-> > > 22-> > > > > 09, > > > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-> > 26d> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > > > > 16N31, > > > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-> 43, > > > > Moon > > > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching > > Percentage > > > > is > > > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > > > Criterion > > > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion 6 & > 9.> > > > > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies > > 2, > > > 7 > > > > as > > > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP > star > > > (Pl > > > > > see > > > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses > > for > > > > > which > > > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj > MER > > > in > > > > 8 > > > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, > JUP > > in > > > 2 > > > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o > > 7, > > > 8, > > > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 > > are > > > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > > > also > > > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with > a > > > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > > > signified > > > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same > as > > > per > > > > > KP > > > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to > the > > > > role > > > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th > > cuspal > > > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP > in > > 2 > > > > l/o > > > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, > 12. > > > > RAH's > > > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO > is > > > > > cuspal > > > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-> 2008).> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP > in > > > 4.4,> > > > > > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a > > decider > > > > for > > > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > > > considered > > > > as > > > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in > > step > > > 3 > > > > > and > > > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to > > signification > > > > of > > > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts > that > > > > > sublord > > > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in > > planet > > > > and > > > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > > > signification > > > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > > > signification > > > > by > > > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can > be > > > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > > > significations > > > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life > > or > > > > > death, > > > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real > test > > > of > > > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > > > signification > > > > > by > > > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > > > Cuspal > > > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub > lord > > > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate > marriage > > by > > > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 > > (love > > > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > > > life, > > > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > > > separation > > > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > > > danger > > > > > at > > > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the > > solely > > > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > > > house > > > > > as > > > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house > > does > > > > not > > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the > house > > is > > > > > empty,> > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > > > stars. > > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as > significator > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > > > practice, > > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D > (A,B,C > > > > > BLANK), > > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the > Sub > > > as > > > > D. > > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord > of > > > the > > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, > > since > > > > the > > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. > > The > > > > > Lord > > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator > of > > 6 > > > > > house > > > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to > take > > > as > > > > a > > > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > > > significator > > > > > of > > > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, > > only > > > D-> > > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts > > in > > > KP > > > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > > > Readers > > > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further > > consideration > > > > of > > > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti > can > > > be > > > > > done > > > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs > > signifying > > > 2, > > > > > 7, > > > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage > > is > > > > RAH-> > > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary > > Significator > > > > of > > > > > 7, > > > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord > KET, > > a > > > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > > > choice.> > > > > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th > > cuspal > > > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > > > indicate > > > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > > > (Likelihood > > > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 > to > > > 14-> > > > 10-> > > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > > > possible > > > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit > effects > > > > > Girl's > > > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia > > <kanakbosmia@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi > as > > > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > > > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both > brahmins > > > and > > > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the girl > > in > > > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is > > opposition > > > > > from > > > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > > > nakshatra > > > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > > > separately.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and > writer, > > > 350 > > > > > BC > > > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, > > 350 > > > > BC > > > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> > > > > > Try the free Mail Beta.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? 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May 23, 2007

The authority on 4 step method is SUNIL GONDHALEKAR. Mr Raichur has helped him to translate the Marathi Version into English, so he has read and studied this method, both in Marathi and English. In case of conflict, it is Mr Sunil Gondhalekar who is the final authority. To avoid conflict, I will desist from answering any questions on 4 step method, though I will continue to use it. tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Swami ji,1. I'm also trying to learn

KP vz 4-Step. That is why I'm posting some cases for comments form both KP and 4-Step members. The corrected version of the latest case is in Msg#13272 (for child birth only; Pl note the corrected star for husband of DOB August 15 should be Mrigasira, Pada 1). Your comments and SW results of significators will be helpful for study.2. For the second case, perhaps Mr. Satish has already explained.3. Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar has not yet answered my questios as he mentioned and he is telling to order his book to understand his 4-Step. Let us try to understand 4-Step from availabe postings, notes, E-zine article etc. But I con't know who is the authority, Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar, the inventor or Mr. Raichur, the promotor?Thanks and regards,tw , <swami wrote:>> > II Om Gurave Namah

II> Hari OM> Dear tin win ji,> I wanted To learn 4 step analysis application from your recent postings, otherwise My software gives me significator starigt way in this Method also.You explained each step carefully .> .> I am sorry to observe that In case of Tamilian boy and Andhra girl case, the data shows Thurs day that is not possible for 20 May 1980.> Since data was incorrect analysis was inapplicable in both cases marriage compatibility and general marriage suitability.> In second case again I found date of one "Myself" was incorrect however later corrected but again I could not Make out What are your findings.> I am curious after so much effort and labour done by You , What is ultimate analysis In both cases and your valued prediction.> I am also curious Why KP analysis is not relied upon now a days ? > You mentioned Four step is still under probe( something like

it ),It shall be educative if Simultaneous KP ananlysis is also posted.> Since Sh Sunil Ji is also member of the Group , I request him to post his views on These or some other cases for benefit of students, before they can get access to his Book in English.> > May I qout swami Omkar"from past 40yrs people learning KP. but most of the people not getting perfect answer. the reason is they doesn't know how to apply the RP. but they are not understanding that and telling faults in ayanamsa or sub lord theory. and finding new theory in KP"> As student I wish I could find truth by Learning from experts in this group.> PS 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the consent of parents due to some negative significators. > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion No. 10 in KP Matching.> So this is the summary But date is 20 May and constellation was in

cancer Nakshatra Ashlesha and not as indicated.> > .> With kind regards.> > > > OM TATSAT> ------------------------> R.C.Srivastava> ------------------------ > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."> - > tw853 > > Monday, May 21, 2007 6:58 AM> Re: Inter-community marriage -- - Child birth exercise> > > Dear Kanak and Members,> > A break down before marriage may be better because a low No. 10 > score in KPDP is a cause for concern in deed. In the case of

> Elizabeth Taylor and Michael Todd with No. 10 score 17% only out of > overall scores 72%, Michael Todd was killed in a plane crash in 13th > month after marriage. > > For your comment, here is an exercise for child birth prediction.> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > Kindly help regarding following problem:> I don't have any issue (children). When i will be blessed with a > son. My date of marriage is 08.05.1998 and other Deatils is as > follows. > > Myself:------ > DOB: 15 Aug 1971 > Time : 15.45> Place: Dholpur (Rajasthan)> > > Wife: > DOB 11 Oct 1975> Time: 06.00> Place: Bharatpur (Rajasthan)> > I am giving no.243 to cast a chart> Thanks> Regards> ARUN> > 1. Birth Details> >

i)Husband,16-08-1971,15-45pm,Sid13-03-> 14,Dholpur,Rajasthan,26N42,77E54,Aridra star,Pada1,NewKPA23-22-> 15,Asc Sag09-35-33(KPAstro2.7)> > ii)Wife, 11-10-1975,06-00am,Sid06-55-> 52,Bharatpur,Rajasthan,27N13,77E29,Moola star,Pada4,NewKPA23-25-> 43,AscVi19-00-10(KPAstro2.7)> > 2. Analysis of Wife's Chart> > 2.1. 5 th cuspal sublord is VEN.> > 1) Plt VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.> 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9)> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is > cuspal sublord.)> 3) Sbl SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.> 4) Sbl SAT is in 10p l/o 5, 6.> > + = No planet is in VEN star; P/p= Primary significator as per 4-> Step Method> > i) As per KP, child birth is promised as 11, 2, 5 houses are > signified in step 1

& 2 (also 5th house in step 3).> > ii)As per latest explanations of 4-Step Method, a promise for child > birth is not clear because 11th house is Primary significator in > step 1 & 2 but 10th house (12 to 11th) is a Primary negative > significator in step 4 which is given priority together with step 2.> > 2.2. Current running dasa lord is MOO.> > 1) Plt MOO is in 3 l/o 11.> 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is > cuspal sublord.)> 3) Sbl MER is in 1 l/o 1, 10.> 4) Sbl MOO is in 3p l/o 11.> > i) As per KP, MOO is supposed to be a fruitful significator for > child birth because significator of 11, 2, 5 houses in step 1 & 2 is > supported by signification of 11th in step 4 (despite signification > of 1, 10 houses in step 3).>

> ii) As per 4-Step Method, it may be the same possibility as 11th is > a Primary significator in 2nd step despite no Primary significator > for child birth in step 3 & 4.> > 2.3. Current running Bhukti is SAT, i.e. MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007 to > 02-08-2008)> > 1) Plt SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.> 2) Stl SAT is in 10p l/o 5Ep, 6Ep.> 3) Sbl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is > cuspal sublord.)> 4) Sbl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)> (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is > cuspal sublord.)> > E= Empty house> > i) As per KP, it is possible to have a child during MOO-SAT DB (02-> 01-2007 to 02-08-2008) because significator of 5th house in step 1 & > 2 is supported by significator of 2,5,11 in step 3 & 4 (and 10

> house in step 1 & 2 is not supported by significator of 2,5,8,9,11 > in step 3 & 4.)> > ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary > significator of 5th house in Step 2 and Primary significator of 11th > house in Step 3 & 4.> > 3. Analysis of Husband's Chart> > 3.1. 11th & 5th cuspal sublord is SAT.> > 1) Plt SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3.> 2) Stl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.> 3) Sbl RAH in 2 (Sgl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3)> RAH conj MAR (w/n 30min) + in 2P l/o 5Ep, 12Ep.> 4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.> > i) As per KP, a child is promised as 5, 2 houses are signified in > step 1 (and in step 3).> > ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same promise because of Primary > significator of 5th house in Step 1 & 3 and Primary significator of > 2, 5 houses in Step 3.> >

3.2. Current running dasa is SAT-SAT DB (12-05-2005 to 14-05-2008)> > Referring 3.1,> > i) As per KP, it is possible to get a child during SAT-SAT DB (12-05-> 2005 to 14-05-2008) because significator of 2, 5 houses in step 1 is > supported by significator of 2, 5 in step 3.> > ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of Primary > significator of 5th house in Step 1 and Primary significator of 5, 2 > houses in Step 3..> > 4. The nearest possible period to have a child is:> > 02-01-2007 to 14-05-2008 > > as a result of reconciling 2.3 & 3.2.> > 5. The next possible period to have a child is:> > 24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012> > as a result of reconciling MOO-VEN DB (03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012) > for wife and SAT-KET DB (24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012) for husband..> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP,> > > > on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for matching, > they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says Yes, > and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was not > good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are 26 > as per Kutta matching.> > > > Today just now i received phone from my client that this > engagement was broken.> > > > detail:> > > > > BOY: GIRL > > > > Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 - > 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0 > > PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD > INDIA >

> > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear Vishwanath, Kanak, > > > > For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:> > > > Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35 > > > > Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11> > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Vishwanath ji,> > > > > > Thanks for detiels about both chart.> > > > > > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition which > > you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after your > > reply i will write more

data.> > > as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never give > > reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to look i > > will post some more data.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:> > > Dear Sirs> > > > > > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars posited in > > Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of > > marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked, vedic > > methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility. > > > > > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or Venus in > > male chart. > > > > > > 8th house connection by

Mars signifies impediments and quarrels, > > but continue to live under one roof.> > > > > > Regards> > > Mk Viswanath> > > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether thats > > all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no nadi > > dosha.couple is Brahamin.> > > > > > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT > > GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA> > > GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR > > Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA> > > > > > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no harmoney > > btwin both but due to child they live to gether.> > >

> > > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if you > > try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear, specialy > > KPDP criteria no: 10.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > Dear Kanak,> > > > > > Thanks for your view. > > > > > > Some views are below.> > > > > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the "same" nadi. then > here > > > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh is > > only > > > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two > > people > > > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be > > > considered because God is trying to bring the two people >

together > > > through natural processes.> > > > > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is > > > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha' in > > this > > > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring of > > > points should be ignored and the compatability should be > > > considered as 'Poor'.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity. With > > > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.>

> > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi > dosha, > > > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for Brahamin > > only, > > > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge cast of > > > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also Adhya > > > Nadi have No dosha.> > > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to worry.> > > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)> > > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.> > > > > > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not count > > > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8 marks > > > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you never > come > > > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching

system.> > > > > > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but they > have > > > no child.> > > > > > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE > > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -> > > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA> > > > > > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE > > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4 > > > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA> > > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi dosha > but > > > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all data as > > per > > > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted so i > > > have to check all again)> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak

Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > > > Dear Satish, Kanak,> > > > > > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the > consent > > of > > > > parents due to some negative significators.> > > > > > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like > Criterion > > > No. > > > > 10 in KP Matching.> > > > > > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score would > > be > > > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is why > > > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the > cases > > > of >

> > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores are > > > around > > > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for > Camilla. > > > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10) for > > Diana > > > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed to > be > > > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a > > child).> > > > > > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't work > for > > > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance, > > passion, > > > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they fight, > will > > > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and Practice of > > > > Ancient

Hindu Astrology, page 364-6) > > > > > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for > > > Westerners > > > > and modernized Indian new generation?> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > > > tw> > > > > > > > , "R Satish" <rsatish1942@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,> > > > > > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,: and > > > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.> > > > > > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time > yesterday.According > > >

> to > > > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived > objection> > ( > > > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical > approach > > > is > > > > > being followed in this case.> > > > > > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.> > > > > > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed > > > > towards > > > > > this issue.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia >

<kanakbosmia@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am intrested in > > > > this > > > > > rule.> > > > > > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house > > does > > > > > not > > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the > house > > is > > > > > empty,> > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > > > stars. > > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as > significator > > > in > > > > > the > > > > >

> normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > > > practice, > > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D > (A,B,C > > > > > BLANK), > > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the > Sub > > > as > > > > D. > > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord > of > > > the > > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, > > since > > > > the > > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that house. > > The > > > > > Lord > > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > > > > > is there any

more exmples give in any reader? or have you > > > check > > > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this > > subject. > > > > it > > > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found > > failore > > > > and > > > > > unexpected signficatore seen.> > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai, > KPAstro --> > > > > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc Cn > 01-> > > 22-> > > > > 09,

> > > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 0y-6m-> > 26d> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada, KPAstro --> > > > > > > 16N31, > > > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-52-> 43, > > > > Moon > > > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-7d.> > > > > > > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching > > Percentage > > > > is > > > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's experience) > > > > Criterion > > > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks

for Criterion 6 & > 9.> > > > > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP signifies > > 2, > > > 7 > > > > as > > > > > > shown below.)> > > > > > > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star. > > > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in JUP > star > > > (Pl > > > > > see > > > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group) > > > > > > > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant) houses. > > > > > >

> > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10 houses > > for > > > > > which > > > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET conj > MER > > > in > > > > 8 > > > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, > JUP > > in > > > 2 > > > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3 l/o > > 7, > > > 8, > > > > > > 9. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,> > > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> >

> > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 & 4. > > > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star > > > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification > > > > > > > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1 & 2 > > are > > > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4 are > > > also > > > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2, with > a > > > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may not > > > > signified > > > > > > in

step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the same > as > > > per > > > > > KP > > > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance to > the > > > > role > > > > > > of star.> > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th > > cuspal > > > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)> > > > > > > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.> > > > > > > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5, JUP > in > > 2 > > > > l/o > > > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o 4, > 12. > > > > RAH's > > > >

> > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )> > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p> > > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.> > > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,> > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:> > > > > > > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant) houses.> > > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which MOO > is

> > > > > cuspal > > > > > > sublord. > > > > > > > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2 > > > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p > > > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)> > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep > > > > > > > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star> > > > > > * VEN in own star > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-> 2008).> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and JUP > in > > > 4.4,> > > > > > > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a > > decider > > > >

for > > > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also > > > considered > > > > as > > > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses in > > step > > > 3 > > > > > and > > > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other words > > > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to > > signification > > > > of > > > > > > step 1 and 2.> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many charts > that > > > > > sublord > > > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in

> > planet > > > > and > > > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord > > > > > signification > > > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11 > > > signification > > > > by > > > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate can > be > > > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these > > > > significations > > > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of life > > or > > > > > death, > > > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a real > test > > > of > > > > > > experience and expertise.> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement

in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9 > > > signification > > > > > by > > > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by favorable > > > Cuspal > > > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub > lord > > > > > > interlinks by Khullar).> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate > marriage > > by > > > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses 5 > > (love > > > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment, martial > > > life, > > > > > > getting dowry).> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and negative > > > > > >

significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage and > > > > > separation > > > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape from > > > danger > > > > > at > > > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is the > > solely > > > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of 1st > > > house > > > > > as > > > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.> > > > > > > > > > > > ¡"The rules and practice shown that the lord of the house > > does > > > > not > > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the > house > > is > > > > > empty,> > > > > > (nO

significators A or B) and there are no planets in its > > > stars. > > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as > significator > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and the > > > > practice, > > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D > (A,B,C > > > > > BLANK), > > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have the > Sub > > > as > > > > D. > > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-lord > of > > > the > > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is logical, > > since > > > > the > > > > > > sub-lord of

cusps is said to govern matters of that house. > > The > > > > > Lord > > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result."¨> > > > > > > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be significator > of > > 6 > > > > > house > > > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not to > take > > > as > > > > a > > > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as > > > > significator > > > > > of > > > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO. However, > > only > > > D-> > > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example charts > > in > > > KP > > > >

> > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and KP > > > > Readers > > > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further > > consideration > > > > of > > > > > > sublord of planets or cusps. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP Bhukti > can > > > be > > > > > done > > > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs > > signifying > > > 2, > > > > > 7, > > > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for marriage > > is > > > > RAH-> > > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a

Primary > > Significator > > > > of > > > > > 7, > > > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara lord > KET, > > a > > > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a appropriate > > > choice.> > > > > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART> > > > > > > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her 7th > > cuspal > > > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord KET > > > > indicate > > > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of Matching > > > > > (Likelihood > > > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%. > > > > > > > > > >

> > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-2006 > to > > > 14-> > > > 10-> > > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6, marriage is > > > > > possible > > > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit > effects > > > > > Girl's > > > > > > 7 house.> > > > > > > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia > > <kanakbosmia@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Satish ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as per me:> > > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA nadi

> as > > > > > > Santan yog is forseen.> > > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.> > > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for > > > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both > brahmins > > > and > > > > > > > both software engineers.the boy

works in M.East,the girl > > in > > > > > > Mumbai. > > > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is > > opposition > > > > > from > > > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b) same > > > > nakshatra > > > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying > > > > separately.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-> > > > > > > madhyam nadi).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair > > > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs

,Mumbai Dadar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and > writer, > > > 350 > > > > > BC > >

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Dear Shri Raichur,

Thank you for your clarification implying that your educative 4-Step

writings deem no more valid for study or discussion.

Thanks and regards,

tw

, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

>

> The authority on 4 step method is SUNIL GONDHALEKAR. Mr Raichur

has helped him to

> translate the Marathi Version into English, so he has read and

studied this method, both in Marathi and English. In case of

conflict, it is Mr Sunil Gondhalekar who is the final authority.

>

> To avoid conflict, I will desist from answering any questions on

4 step method, though I will continue to use it.

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Swami ji,

>

> 1. I'm also trying to learn KP vz 4-Step. That is why I'm posting

> some cases for comments form both KP and 4-Step members. The

> corrected version of the latest case is in Msg#13272 (for child

> birth only; Pl note the corrected star for husband of DOB August

15

> should be Mrigasira, Pada 1). Your comments and SW results of

> significators will be helpful for study.

>

> 2. For the second case, perhaps Mr. Satish has already explained.

>

> 3. Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar has not yet answered my questios as he

> mentioned and he is telling to order his book to understand his 4-

> Step. Let us try to understand 4-Step from availabe postings,

notes,

> E-zine article etc. But I con't know who is the authority, Mr.

Sunil

> Gondhalekar, the inventor or Mr. Raichur, the promotor?

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> , <swami@> wrote:

> >

> > II Om Gurave Namah II

> > Hari OM

> > Dear tin win ji,

> > I wanted To learn 4 step analysis application from your recent

> postings, otherwise My software gives me significator starigt way

> in this Method also.You explained each step carefully .

> > .

> > I am sorry to observe that In case of Tamilian boy and Andhra

> girl case, the data shows Thurs day that is not possible for 20

May

> 1980.

> > Since data was incorrect analysis was inapplicable in both cases

> marriage compatibility and general marriage suitability.

> > In second case again I found date of one " Myself " was incorrect

> however later corrected but again I could not Make out What are

your

> findings.

> > I am curious after so much effort and labour done by You , What

is

> ultimate analysis In both cases and your valued prediction.

> > I am also curious Why KP analysis is not relied upon now a

days ?

> > You mentioned Four step is still under probe( something like

> it ),It shall be educative if Simultaneous KP ananlysis is also

> posted.

> > Since Sh Sunil Ji is also member of the Group , I request him to

> post his views on These or some other cases for benefit of

students,

> before they can get access to his Book in English.

> >

> > May I qout swami Omkar " from past 40yrs people learning KP. but

> most of the people not getting perfect answer. the reason is they

> doesn't know how to apply the RP. but they are not understanding

> that and telling faults in ayanamsa or sub lord theory. and

finding

> new theory in KP "

> > As student I wish I could find truth by Learning from experts in

> this group.

> > PS 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the

> consent of parents due to some negative significators.

> > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like Criterion

> No. 10 in KP Matching.

> > So this is the summary But date is 20 May and constellation was

in

> cancer Nakshatra Ashlesha and not as indicated.

> >

> > .

> > With kind regards.

> >

> > OM TATSAT

> > ------------------------

> > R.C.Srivastava

> > ------------------------

> > " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine

Being

> who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. "

> > -

> > tw853

> >

> > Monday, May 21, 2007 6:58 AM

> > Re: Inter-community marriage -- - Child

> birth exercise

> >

> > Dear Kanak and Members,

> >

> > A break down before marriage may be better because a low No. 10

> > score in KPDP is a cause for concern in deed. In the case of

> > Elizabeth Taylor and Michael Todd with No. 10 score 17% only out

> of

> > overall scores 72%, Michael Todd was killed in a plane crash in

> 13th

> > month after marriage.

> >

> > For your comment, here is an exercise for child birth prediction.

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > Kindly help regarding following problem:

> > I don't have any issue (children). When i will be blessed with a

> > son. My date of marriage is 08.05.1998 and other Deatils is as

> > follows.

> >

> > Myself:------

> > DOB: 15 Aug 1971

> > Time : 15.45

> > Place: Dholpur (Rajasthan)

> >

> > Wife:

> > DOB 11 Oct 1975

> > Time: 06.00

> > Place: Bharatpur (Rajasthan)

> >

> > I am giving no.243 to cast a chart

> > Thanks

> > Regards

> > ARUN

> >

> > 1. Birth Details

> >

> > i)Husband,16-08-1971,15-45pm,Sid13-03-

> > 14,Dholpur,Rajasthan,26N42,77E54,Aridra star,Pada1,NewKPA23-22-

> > 15,Asc Sag09-35-33(KPAstro2.7)

> >

> > ii)Wife, 11-10-1975,06-00am,Sid06-55-

> > 52,Bharatpur,Rajasthan,27N13,77E29,Moola star,Pada4,NewKPA23-25-

> > 43,AscVi19-00-10(KPAstro2.7)

> >

> > 2. Analysis of Wife's Chart

> >

> > 2.1. 5 th cuspal sublord is VEN.

> >

> > 1) Plt VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.

> > 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9)

> > (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> > cuspal sublord.)

> > 3) Sbl SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.

> > 4) Sbl SAT is in 10p l/o 5, 6.

> >

> > + = No planet is in VEN star; P/p= Primary significator as per 4-

> > Step Method

> >

> > i) As per KP, child birth is promised as 11, 2, 5 houses are

> > signified in step 1 & 2 (also 5th house in step 3).

> >

> > ii)As per latest explanations of 4-Step Method, a promise for

> child

> > birth is not clear because 11th house is Primary significator in

> > step 1 & 2 but 10th house (12 to 11th) is a Primary negative

> > significator in step 4 which is given priority together with

> step 2.

> >

> > 2.2. Current running dasa lord is MOO.

> >

> > 1) Plt MOO is in 3 l/o 11.

> > 2) Stl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)

> > (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> > cuspal sublord.)

> > 3) Sbl MER is in 1 l/o 1, 10.

> > 4) Sbl MOO is in 3p l/o 11.

> >

> > i) As per KP, MOO is supposed to be a fruitful significator for

> > child birth because significator of 11, 2, 5 houses in step 1 &

> 2 is

> > supported by signification of 11th in step 4 (despite

> signification

> > of 1, 10 houses in step 3).

> >

> > ii) As per 4-Step Method, it may be the same possibility as 11th

> is

> > a Primary significator in 2nd step despite no Primary

> significator

> > for child birth in step 3 & 4.

> >

> > 2.3. Current running Bhukti is SAT, i.e. MOO-SAT DB (02-01-2007

> to

> > 02-08-2008)

> >

> > 1) Plt SAT is in 10 l/o 5, 6.

> > 2) Stl SAT is in 10p l/o 5Ep, 6Ep.

> > 3) Sbl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.

> > (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> > cuspal sublord.)

> > 4) Sbl KET in 8p (Sgl VEN + is in 11P l/o 2, 9.)

> > (VEN is a strong significator of 5 & 11 houses for which VEN is

> > cuspal sublord.)

> >

> > E= Empty house

> >

> > i) As per KP, it is possible to have a child during MOO-SAT DB

> (02-

> > 01-2007 to 02-08-2008) because significator of 5th house in step

> 1 &

> > 2 is supported by significator of 2,5,11 in step 3 & 4 (and 10

> > house in step 1 & 2 is not supported by significator of

> 2,5,8,9,11

> > in step 3 & 4.)

> >

> > ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of

> Primary

> > significator of 5th house in Step 2 and Primary significator of

> 11th

> > house in Step 3 & 4.

> >

> > 3. Analysis of Husband's Chart

> >

> > 3.1. 11th & 5th cuspal sublord is SAT.

> >

> > 1) Plt SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3.

> > 2) Stl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.

> > 3) Sbl RAH in 2 (Sgl SAT + is in 5P l/o 2, 3)

> > RAH conj MAR (w/n 30min) + in 2P l/o 5Ep, 12Ep.

> > 4) Sbl MOO is in 6p l/o 8.

> >

> > i) As per KP, a child is promised as 5, 2 houses are signified

> in

> > step 1 (and in step 3).

> >

> > ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same promise because of Primary

> > significator of 5th house in Step 1 & 3 and Primary significator

> of

> > 2, 5 houses in Step 3.

> >

> > 3.2. Current running dasa is SAT-SAT DB (12-05-2005 to 14-05-

> 2008)

> >

> > Referring 3.1,

> >

> > i) As per KP, it is possible to get a child during SAT-SAT DB

> (12-05-

> > 2005 to 14-05-2008) because significator of 2, 5 houses in step

> 1 is

> > supported by significator of 2, 5 in step 3.

> >

> > ii) As per 4-Step Method, the same possibility because of

> Primary

> > significator of 5th house in Step 1 and Primary significator of

> 5, 2

> > houses in Step 3..

> >

> > 4. The nearest possible period to have a child is:

> >

> > 02-01-2007 to 14-05-2008

> >

> > as a result of reconciling 2.3 & 3.2.

> >

> > 5. The next possible period to have a child is:

> >

> > 24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012

> >

> > as a result of reconciling MOO-VEN DB (03-08-2010 to 03-04-2012)

> > for wife and SAT-KET DB (24-01-2011 to 04-03-2012) for husband..

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > >

> > > A very good example of effectiveness of KPDP,

> > >

> > > on 9/4/2007 one of my client,come with his friend for

> matching,

> > they consult one astrologer befor come to me,astrologer says

> Yes,

> > and for second opinion come to me.as per KPDP matching it was

> not

> > good so i told him NO. but they do not believed bcose GUNAK are

> 26

> > as per Kutta matching.

> > >

> > > Today just now i received phone from my client that this

> > engagement was broken.

> > >

> > > detail:

> > >

> > BOY: GIRL

> > >

> > > Born on 1 - 12 - 1978 TIME 9 - 15 24 -

> > 12 - 1982 TIME 12 - 0

> > > PLACE MUMBAI MAHARASTRA SIKANDARABAD

> > INDIA

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > Dear Vishwanath, Kanak,

> > >

> > > For your comment, here is a couple married on 30-10-1930:

> > >

> > > Male: 08-08-1912, 19:42 IST, 12N59, 77E35

> > >

> > > Female: 16-10-1918, 14:32 IST, 13N09, 78E11

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vishwanath ji,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for detiels about both chart.

> > > >

> > > > If you wnat to check some more chart with same condition

> which

> > > you have mention, even cople live with best harmony, after

> your

> > > reply i will write more data.

> > > > as allways heppan member write his opinion but they never

> give

> > > reply of query asked from his reply, so if you are ready to

> look i

> > > will post some more data.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > >

> > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Sirs

> > > >

> > > > In the charts specified, female has got Moon and Mars

> posited in

> > > Asc. Mars is lord of 8th and aspects 7th house. (house of

> > > marriage). Although not a KP chart is made and not checked,

> vedic

> > > methods is sufficient enough to check the compatibility.

> > > >

> > > > Whereas Mars was not connected either with Asc, Moon or

> Venus in

> > > male chart.

> > > >

> > > > 8th house connection by Mars signifies impediments and

> quarrels,

> > > but continue to live under one roof.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Mk Viswanath

> > > >

> > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > > >

> > > > Bellow is couple who has two child, couple live to gether

> thats

> > > all there is no relation btiwn both . Kutta total is 30 no

> nadi

> > > dosha.couple is Brahamin.

> > > >

> > > > BOY: Born on 17 - 11 - 1959 TIME 12 - 59 PLACE RAJKOT

> > > GUJARAT STAR Rohini-PADA 4 NADI : ANTYA

> > > > GIRL:16 - 8 - 1961 TIME 9 - 15 PLACE BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR

> > > Hasta-PADA 4 NADI : ADHYA

> > > >

> > > > This perosn come to me on 28th May 2003 still today no

> harmoney

> > > btwin both but due to child they live to gether.

> > > >

> > > > How can we say Best Kutta Matching with 30 points ? but if

> you

> > > try to look with KPDP you will found answer very clear,

> specialy

> > > KPDP criteria no: 10.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > >

> > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Kanak,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your view.

> > > >

> > > > Some views are below.

> > > >

> > > > Nadi dosh means both of them would have the " same " nadi.

> then

> > here

> > > > is another additional angle they should consider: nadi dosh

> is

> > > only

> > > > effective for brahmins. the shastras have stated that if two

> > > people

> > > > really love each other, then horoscopes should not even be

> > > > considered because God is trying to bring the two people

> > together

> > > > through natural processes.

> > > >

> > > > If the scored points are above 25, the compatability is

> > > > considered 'Best'. However, there should not be 'Nadi-dosha'

> in

> > > this

> > > > compatability. If 'Nadi-dosha' is present, even high scoring

> of

> > > > points should be ignored and the compatability should be

> > > > considered as 'Poor'.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > , Kanak Bosmia

> <kanakbosmia@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > > > > Nadi kutta matching is base on indian cast base socity.

> With

> > > > permnission to allow not KP writing in this mail.

> > > > > 1) in Camilla Parker Bowles's chart you have mention Nadi

> > dosha,

> > > > but as per Kuta matching this Nadi dosha is valid for

> Brahamin

> > > only,

> > > > other cast have not to worry about it. now we cnat judge

> cast of

> > > > Camilla Parker Bowles, this is not in western society.also

> Adhya

> > > > Nadi have No dosha.

> > > > > 2)Varna dosha is for Kshtriya, other cast have not to

> worry.

> > > > > 3)Gana dosha is for Vaishya( Vanika)

> > > > > 4)Yoni dosha is for Sudra.

> > > > >

> > > > > what you mention total Kuta scores is 20 but you do not

> count

> > > > what if Dosha is mitigated and Camilla Parker got more 8

> marks

> > > > means 20+8( Adhya Nadi have no dosha) =28.like this you

> never

> > come

> > > > to clear in westerner's chart with Kuta matching system.

> > > > >

> > > > > for exmple bellow is couple who have NO Nadi dosha but

> they

> > have

> > > > no child.

> > > > >

> > > > > BOY: Born on 22 - 11 - 1960 TIME 10 - 0 PLACE

> > > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR P.Ashadha- PADA -

> > > > 3 RASI : DHAN NADI: MADHYA

> > > > >

> > > > > GIRL Born on 17 - 12 - 1963 TIME 7 - 00 PLACE

> > > > BHAVNAGAR GUJARAT STAR Moola- PADA-4

> > > > RASI : DHAN NADI: ADHYA

> > > > > I will find out data form my database which have nadi

> dosha

> > but

> > > > have child, but it will take some time.(i have store all

> data as

> > > per

> > > > kuta matching VS KPDP but due to virus my many data deleted

> so i

> > > > have to check all again)

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > > >

> > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Satish, Kanak,

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. I'm afraid to say that they may go ahead without the

> > consent

> > > of

> > > > > parents due to some negative significators.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. It seems Nadi Kuta in Kuta Matching is crucial like

> > Criterion

> > > > No.

> > > > > 10 in KP Matching.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. If Nadi Kuta was not excessive in Pittha, total score

> would

> > > be

> > > > > 36, cent percent, which would be very exceptional. That is

> why

> > > > > something should be missing not to be cent percent. In the

> > cases

> > > > of

> > > > > Charles & Diana and Charles & Camilla, total Kuta scores

> are

> > > > around

> > > > > 16 & 20 only, with Nadi score 8 for Diana and zero for

> > Camilla.

> > > > > Overall KP Matching scores are 75.83% (41.67% for N0.10)

> for

> > > Diana

> > > > > and 82.50% (58.33% for No. 10) for Camilla. It is supposed

> to

> > be

> > > > > okay for Camilla with Nadi dosha (except too late to get a

> > > child).

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. As per James Braha's expeience, Kuta system doesn't

> work

> > for

> > > > > Westerners. In his opinion, it does not address romance,

> > > passion,

> > > > > and whether a couple can get along or not (Will they

> fight,

> > will

> > > > > they argue, will they remain close?). (The Art and

> Practice of

> > > > > Ancient Hindu Astrology, page 364-6)

> > > > >

> > > > > Regarding Kuta and KP matching, how his your opinion for

> > > > Westerners

> > > > > and modernized Indian new generation?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > tw

> > > > >

> > > > > , " R Satish "

> <rsatish1942@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear TW ,Kanakbhai and friends,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks to TW for details as per KP/4 step theory,:

> and

> > > > > > Kanakbhai for inputs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There was a prelimnary meeting,first time

> > yesterday.According

> > > > > to

> > > > > > Koota system due madhuyam nadi there was a perceived

> > objection

> > > (

> > > > > > despite 28/36).Kp gave above average rating.Practical

> > approach

> > > > is

> > > > > > being followed in this case.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I shall keep you posted in event of definitive decisions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the meantime, many thanks to all who have contributed

> > > > > towards

> > > > > > this issue.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Satish

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia

> > <kanakbosmia@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Tin Win ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Many thanks for mentioning bellow rule , I am

> intrested in

> > > > > this

> > > > > > rule.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the

> house

> > > does

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the

> > house

> > > is

> > > > > > empty,

> > > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in

> its

> > > > stars.

> > > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as

> > significator

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and

> the

> > > > > practice,

> > > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D

> > (A,B,C

> > > > > > BLANK),

> > > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have

> the

> > Sub

> > > > as

> > > > > D.

> > > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-

> lord

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is

> logical,

> > > since

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that

> house.

> > > The

> > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > is there any more exmples give in any reader? or have

> you

> > > > check

> > > > > > this in any chart? please explaint more detiles on this

> > > subject.

> > > > > it

> > > > > > will much eductive,may be open some secreat when i found

> > > failore

> > > > > and

> > > > > > unexpected signficatore seen.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: CHART DETAILS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Boy, 20-05-1980, Thur, 14-03 PM, Dadar, Mumbai,

> > KPAstro --

> > > >

> > > > > > > 19N01, 72E51, Sid Time 01-16-31, New KPA 23-29-26, Asc

> Cn

> > 01-

> > > > 22-

> > > > > > 09,

> > > > > > > Moon Ar 26-17-06, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal

> 0y-6m-

> > > 26d

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Girl, 12-08-1982, Thur, 14-24 PM, Vijayawada,

> KPAstro --

> > >

> > > > > > 16N31,

> > > > > > > 80E37, Sid Time 11-38-24, New KPA 23-31-27, Asc Sc 24-

> 52-

> > 43,

> > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > Ar 24-35-52, Star Bharani, Pada 4, Ven Dasa bal 3y-1m-

> 7d.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > MATCHING RESULTS

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Marriage is recommendable since Overall Matching

> > > Percentage

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > 60.83% and most importantly (as per Kanak's

> experience)

> > > > > Criterion

> > > > > > > 10 having 58.33%, despite of zero marks for Criterion

> 6 &

> > 9.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF BOY'S CHART

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Marriage is promised. (7th cuspal sublord JUP

> signifies

> > > 2,

> > > > 7

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > shown below.)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4.1. 7th cuspal sublord is JUP which is in KET star.

> > > > > > > JUP is in 2 l/o 6, 10 houses.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4.2. Basic Rule and Practice regarding No planet in

> JUP

> > star

> > > > (Pl

> > > > > > see

> > > > > > > Msg#2697, 8071, 8076 of this Group)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 6 (vacant)

> houses.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ii) JUP is a strong significator of 2, 4, 7, 8, 10

> houses

> > > for

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > JUP is the cuspal sublord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4.3. KET is in 8 and in star of MAR in 2 l/o 5. KET

> conj

> > MER

> > > > in

> > > > > 8

> > > > > > > l/o 4, 12. KET aspt by MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o

> 5,

> > JUP

> > > in

> > > > 2

> > > > > > > l/o 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9. KET's Sgl is SAT in 3

> l/o

> > > 7,

> > > > 8,

> > > > > > > 9.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4.4. In 4-Step Method,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PLANET : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10

> > > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > > > It's SUB Lord : JUP + 2P-6Ep-10

> > > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Note: MAR: 2- 5Ep is also to be considered in step 2 &

> 4.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > + No planet in JUP star

> > > > > > > E= empty house; P/p= Primary Signification

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In KP analysis, generally signification in only step 1

> & 2

> > > are

> > > > > > > taken into consideration. In 4-Step Method, step 3 & 4

> are

> > > > also

> > > > > > > taken giving perhaps more importance than step 1 & 2,

> with

> > a

> > > > > > > possibility of signification in step 3 & 4 which may

> not

> > > > > signified

> > > > > > > in step 1 & 2. Choice of Primary Significator is the

> same

> > as

> > > > per

> > > > > > KP

> > > > > > > ranking of significators A to E and giving importance

> to

> > the

> > > > > role

> > > > > > > of star.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. Child is promised. (11th cuspal sublord RAH and 5th

> > > cuspal

> > > > > > > sublord MOO signify 2, 5, 11.)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5.1. 11th cuspal sublord is RAH which is in KET star.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RAH is in 2 and conj MAR (almost exactly) in 2 l/o 5,

> JUP

> > in

> > > 2

> > > > > l/o

> > > > > > > 6, 10, SAT in 3 l/o 7, 8, 9 and aspt by MER in 8 l/o

> 4,

> > 12.

> > > > > RAH's

> > > > > > > Sgl is SUN in 9 l/o 3.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PLANET : RAH 2-(Sun 9 -3 )

> > > > > > > It's STAR Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > > > It's SUB Lord : MOO + 10P-1p-2

> > > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star

> > > > > > > * VEN in own star

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5.2. 5th cuspal sublord is MOO which is in VEN star.

> > > > > > > MOO is in 10 l/o 1, 2,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regarding No planet in MOO star:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i) MOO is a strong significator of 10, 1 (vacant)

> houses.

> > > > > > > ii) MOO is a strong significator of 5 house for which

> MOO

> > is

> > > > > > cuspal

> > > > > > > sublord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PLANET : MOO + 10P-1p-2

> > > > > > > It's STAR Lord : VEN * 10P-11p

> > > > > > > It's SUB Lord : KET 8p-(Sat 3p-7Ep-8-9)

> > > > > > > SUB's STAR Lord : MAR 2P-5Ep

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > + No planet in MOO star

> > > > > > > * VEN in own star

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6. Current Running D/B is RAH-JUP (29-06-2006 to 22-11-

> > 2008).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6.1. Referring 4 step signification of RAH in 5.1 and

> JUP

> > in

> > > > 4.4,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i) In KP analysis, signification in step 3 and 4 is a

> > > decider

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > fruitfulness of houses signified in step 1 and 2.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ii) In 4-Step Method, step 3 and 4 deciders are also

> > > > considered

> > > > > as

> > > > > > > significators, with a possibility of signifying houses

> in

> > > step

> > > > 3

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > 4 which are not signified in step 1 and 2, in other

> words

> > > > > > > signification of step 3 and 4 can be opposite to

> > > signification

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > step 1 and 2.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6.2. Kanak has found in post-event study of many

> charts

> > that

> > > > > > sublord

> > > > > > > signification (step 3 & 4) supersedes signification in

> > > planet

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > star level (step 1 & 2), for instance death by sublord

> > > > > > signification

> > > > > > > of Maraka, Badhaka and Moksha despite of 1, 5, 11

> > > > signification

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > planet and starlord and said that a good success rate

> can

> > be

> > > > > > > achieved by taking into consideration of all these

> > > > > significations

> > > > > > > together. In prediction for future, a right choice of

> life

> > > or

> > > > > > death,

> > > > > > > marriage or denial, child birth or denial may be a

> real

> > test

> > > > of

> > > > > > > experience and expertise.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6.3. An advancement in carrier, despite of 1, 5, 9

> > > > signification

> > > > > > by

> > > > > > > dasa lord and its starlord, can be achieved by

> favorable

> > > > Cuspal

> > > > > > > Interlinks (Sublord interlinks by Baskaran and Sub Sub

> > lord

> > > > > > > interlinks by Khullar).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6.4. Anyway Dasa lord RAH and Bhukti lord indicate

> > marriage

> > > by

> > > > > > > signifying main 2, 7, 11 houses and supporting houses

> 5

> > > (love

> > > > > > > affair), 3, 9 (negotiation), 8 (sexual enjoyment,

> martial

> > > > life,

> > > > > > > getting dowry).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6.5. By taking consideration of both positive and

> negative

> > > > > > > significations, KP is capable of predicting marriage

> and

> > > > > > separation

> > > > > > > after marriage, getting in danger of life and escape

> from

> > > > danger

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > the same time. For instance, in Boy¡¦s chart JUP is

> the

> > > solely

> > > > > > > significator of 6 house (12 to 7), MOO significator of

> 1st

> > > > house

> > > > > > as

> > > > > > > D-level significator related to the statement below.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ¡ " The rules and practice shown that the lord of the

> house

> > > does

> > > > > not

> > > > > > > become the significator of the house it owns,when the

> > house

> > > is

> > > > > > empty,

> > > > > > > (nO significators A or B) and there are no planets in

> its

> > > > stars.

> > > > > > > Sig C blank, only D, the house owner remains as

> > significator

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > normal route. The rule on page 195 of Reader 4, and

> the

> > > > > practice,

> > > > > > > says when there is only a significator of Category D

> > (A,B,C

> > > > > > BLANK),

> > > > > > > then do not accept it, but accept planets which have

> the

> > Sub

> > > > as

> > > > > D.

> > > > > > > If there are no planets whose sublord is D, then sub-

> lord

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > > house itself becomes the significator. This is

> logical,

> > > since

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > sub-lord of cusps is said to govern matters of that

> house.

> > > The

> > > > > > Lord

> > > > > > > of the house becomes only a source of the result. " ¨

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As per above statement JUP is supposed to be

> significator

> > of

> > > 6

> > > > > > house

> > > > > > > since JUP is in its own sub. But MOO is supposed not

> to

> > take

> > > > as

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > significator of 1st house and to take MAR and RAH as

> > > > > significator

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > 1st house since MAR and RAH are in star of MOO.

> However,

> > > only

> > > > D-

> > > > > > > level significator planet is found taken in example

> charts

> > > in

> > > > KP

> > > > > > > Reader IV, pages 149, 175, 190, 197, 200, 234, 241 and

> KP

> > > > > Readers

> > > > > > > VI, pages 217, 233, 246, 309 without any further

> > > consideration

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > sublord of planets or cusps.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6.6. In KP, choice of Anthara for marriage in JUP

> Bhukti

> > can

> > > > be

> > > > > > done

> > > > > > > by selecting marriage giving Anthara lords in Subs

> > > signifying

> > > > 2,

> > > > > > 7,

> > > > > > > 11, apart from using RPs. The possible timing for

> marriage

> > > is

> > > > > RAH-

> > > > > > > JUP-KET (15-07-2007 to 05-09-2007).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6.7. In 4-Step Method, Dasa lord RAH is a Primary

> > > Significator

> > > > > of

> > > > > > 7,

> > > > > > > 11 houses and Bhulti lord JUP 2, 7 houses. Anthara

> lord

> > KET,

> > > a

> > > > > > > Primary Significator of 2, 11 houses may be a

> appropriate

> > > > choice.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ANALYSIS OF GIRL'S CHART

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 7. In short, Marriage, Child birth is promised. Her

> 7th

> > > cuspal

> > > > > > > sublord RAH and Boy¡¦s 7th cuspal sublord¡¦s starlord

> KET

> > > > > indicate

> > > > > > > inter-community sector marriage. Criterion 8 of

> Matching

> > > > > > (Likelihood

> > > > > > > of marriage with this boy and the girl) has 100%.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 8. The possible timing of marriage is MAR-VEN (14-08-

> 2006

> > to

> > > > 14-

> > > > > 10-

> > > > > > > 2007). Reconciling with timing for Boy in 6.6,

> marriage is

> > > > > > possible

> > > > > > > during 15-07-2007 to 14-10-2007 while double transit

> > effects

> > > > > > Girl's

> > > > > > > 7 house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia

> > > <kanakbosmia@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Satish ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > as per me:

> > > > > > > > 1) Nadi-Dosh is mitigated as both have same MADHYA

> nadi

> > as

> > > > > > > Santan yog is forseen.

> > > > > > > > 2) there is no multiple marriage in both's chart.

> > > > > > > > 3) 13th May 2007 to 19 July 2007 is likly period for

> > > > marriage.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > R Satish <rsatish1942@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A very interesting case for study and comments.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A Tamilian boy wants to marry an Andhra girl,both

> > brahmins

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > both software engineers.the boy works in M.East,the

> girl

> > > in

> > > > > > > Mumbai.

> > > > > > > > They make a good couple personality wise.There is

> > > opposition

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > girl's parents.2 reasons.a). out of community. b)

> same

> > > > > nakshatra

> > > > > > > > Bharani same pada,madhyam nadi.Boy's parents staying

> > > > > separately.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Kp wise 65% matching, Koota 28/36.(Nadi Dosha-

> > > > > > > > madhyam nadi).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Will this couple marry,if so when?The young pair

> > > > > > > > want to marry at any cost soon.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Boy's details March 20,1980 .1403 hrs ,Mumbai Dadar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Girls do August 20,1982, 1424hrs, Vijayawada ,Andhra.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Satish

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest.

> > > > > > > > Straight trees are cut first

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