Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of one of my colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either in the star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can anyone guide how to predict. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Dear Singhal, The planets posited in the star and sub of retrograde planets negate the results and the event in question would not fructify. Jammalamadugu Rangansinghal_1971 <singhal_1971 wrote: I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of one of my colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either in the star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can anyone guide how to predict.Regards Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Dear Singhal In such cases use 4 step method, which does not give undue importance to retrogression, or try to work out without bothering about the retrogression, and see what results you get. singhal_1971 <singhal_1971 wrote: I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of one of my colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either in the star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can anyone guide how to predict.RegardsGood Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Dear Jammalamadugu rangan Ji But the transfer did materialise. That is the reason i had asked for the guidance as to how to predict in such cases. Thanks. , jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan wrote: > > Dear Singhal, > > The planets posited in the star and sub of retrograde planets negate the results and the event in question would not fructify. > Jammalamadugu Rangan > > singhal_1971 <singhal_1971 wrote: > I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of one of my > colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either in the > star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can anyone > guide how to predict. > Regards > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Dear RAichur Ji In my experience over past six years, though too less/ significant, but yet i have seeen that retrogression does work though the exact manner in which it functions is not clear. However, i will go through the four step method and calculate and see if that functions Regards. Singhal , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Dear Singhal > In such cases use 4 step method, which does not give undue importance to retrogression, or try to work out without bothering about the retrogression, and see what results you get. > > > singhal_1971 <singhal_1971 wrote: > I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of one of my > colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either in the > star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can anyone > guide how to predict. > Regards Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > > You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck > in the all-new Mail Beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear Singhal, Why not KP which says: i) in KP Reader VI, page 145 In a Natal chart, do not worry whether a planet is in direct motion or retrograde. There is no difference. Retrograde planets neither loose strength nor they are harmful. ii) in KP Reader VI, page 146-7 Rules for Horary chart. Regards, tw , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > > Dear Singhal > In such cases use 4 step method, which does not give undue importance to retrogression, or try to work out without bothering about the retrogression, and see what results you get. > > > singhal_1971 <singhal_1971 wrote: > I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of one of my > colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either in the > star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can anyone > guide how to predict. > Regards Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > > You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck > in the all-new Mail Beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear Shri Rangan Garu Can we apply this rule for a natal chart or a horary chart or for both? Regards MK Viswanathjammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan wrote: Dear Singhal, The planets posited in the star and sub of retrograde planets negate the results and the event in question would not fructify. Jammalamadugu Rangansinghal_1971 <singhal_1971 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of one of my colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either in the star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can anyone guide how to predict.Regards Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear Singhal ji, Nameste, I can try. I also had the same experience when I was doing cases in pre-86 Era. From my old notes perhaps I can share What i did. In case MY post is not unwanted intrusion I may request you to post the data of Horary under reference.It may help me recall.I picked the solution From some Earlier issue of A & A those days. With best wishes. Swami_rcs - singhal_1971 Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:22 PM Re: retrogression of planets Dear Jammalamadugu rangan JiBut the transfer did materialise. That is the reason i had asked for the guidance as to how to predict in such cases.Thanks. , jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan wrote:>> Dear Singhal,> > The planets posited in the star and sub of retrograde planets negate the results and the event in question would not fructify.> Jammalamadugu Rangan> > singhal_1971 <singhal_1971 wrote:> I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of one of my > colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either in the > star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can anyone > guide how to predict.> Regards> > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear Vishy Nair, Retrrogression is only for Horary charts. It has been pointed out by someone in these columns rightly the rules by Guruji KSK viz that in natal chart retograde planets make no difference nor are they week. Thank you, Jammalamadugu Rangan Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: Dear Shri Rangan Garu Can we apply this rule for a natal chart or a horary chart or for both? Regards MK Viswanathjammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan > wrote: Dear Singhal, The planets posited in the star and sub of retrograde planets negate the results and the event in question would not fructify. Jammalamadugu Rangansinghal_1971 <singhal_1971 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of one of my colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either in the star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can anyone guide how to predict.Regards Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution! Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 i) in KP Reader VI, page 145 In a Natal chart, do not worry whether a planet is in direct motion or retrograde. There is no difference. Retrograde planets neither loose strength nor they are harmful. ii) in KP Reader VI, page 146-7 Rules for Horary chart. , jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan wrote: > > Dear Vishy Nair, > Retrrogression is only for Horary charts. > It has been pointed out by someone in these columns rightly the rules by Guruji KSK > viz that in natal chart retograde planets make no difference nor are they week. > Thank you, > Jammalamadugu Rangan > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: > Dear Shri Rangan Garu > > Can we apply this rule for a natal chart or a horary chart or for both? > > Regards > MK Viswanath > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan wrote: > Dear Singhal, > > The planets posited in the star and sub of retrograde planets negate the results and the event in question would not fructify. > Jammalamadugu Rangan > > singhal_1971 <singhal_1971 wrote: > I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of one of my > colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either in the > star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can anyone > guide how to predict. > Regards > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > > > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution! > > > > > > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 dear members, more importance is given for retrograde planet in horary by our KSK but my eperience is that we are not getting results out of this theory regarding this retrograde planets,i used to discuss this matter with our guruji,late jyotindra hasbe.he told me the theory is under observation i dont use this theory in my 4 step but this is used only when we check transit of DBA swami. which is explained in detail in my book -sunil gondhalekartw853 <tw853 wrote: i) in KP Reader VI, page 145In a Natal chart, do not worry whether a planet is in direct motionor retrograde. There is no difference. Retrograde planets neitherloose strength nor they are harmful.ii) in KP Reader VI, page 146-7Rules for Horary chart. , jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan wrote:>> Dear Vishy Nair,> Retrrogression is only for Horary charts.> It has been pointed out by someone in these columns rightly the rules by Guruji KSK> viz that in natal chart retograde planets make no difference nor are they week.> Thank you,> Jammalamadugu Rangan > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote:> Dear Shri Rangan Garu> > Can we apply this rule for a natal chart or a horary chart or for both?> > Regards> MK Viswanath> > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan wrote:> Dear Singhal,> > The planets posited in the star and sub of retrograde planets negate the results and the event in question would not fructify.> Jammalamadugu Rangan> > singhal_1971 <singhal_1971 wrote:> I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of one of my > colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either in the > star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can anyone > guide how to predict.> Regards> > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > > > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to download CHAT? Here's a solution! > > > > > > Get your own web address.> Have a HUGE year through Small Business.> Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 Dear Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar, 1. On the basis of how many cases you're saying that you are not getting results out of this theory? 2. How many charts details can you provide here for KP researchers to practically study whether this theory is not working or Dr. Kar's retrograde theory is working. 3. Burden of proof is on you because you're saying this theory is not working and the duty of KP researchers is to study whether your saying is correct or not. They do practical research on hundred charts other than just giving statements. Regards, tw > regarding this retrograde planets , sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > > dear members, > more importance is given for retrograde planet in horary by our KSK > but my eperience is that we are not getting results out of this theory > regarding this retrograde planets,i used to discuss this matter with our > guruji,late jyotindra hasbe.he told me the theory is under observation > i dont use this theory in my 4 step but this is used only when we check > transit of DBA swami. which is explained in detail in my book > -sunil gondhalekar > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > i) in KP Reader VI, page 145 > > In a Natal chart, do not worry whether a planet is in direct motion > or retrograde. There is no difference. Retrograde planets neither > loose strength nor they are harmful. > > ii) in KP Reader VI, page 146-7 > > Rules for Horary chart. > > , jammalamadugu rangan > <jammalamadugu_rangan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vishy Nair, > > Retrrogression is only for Horary charts. > > It has been pointed out by someone in these columns rightly the > rules by Guruji KSK > > viz that in natal chart retograde planets make no difference nor > are they week. > > Thank you, > > Jammalamadugu Rangan > > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote: > > Dear Shri Rangan Garu > > > > Can we apply this rule for a natal chart or a horary chart or > for both? > > > > Regards > > MK Viswanath > > > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan@> wrote: > > Dear Singhal, > > > > The planets posited in the star and sub of retrograde planets > negate the results and the event in question would not fructify. > > Jammalamadugu Rangan > > > > singhal_1971 <singhal_1971@> wrote: > > I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of > one of my > > colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either in > the > > star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can > anyone > > guide how to predict. > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to > download CHAT? Here's a solution! > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your own web address. > > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Mail Beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 dear shri tin win ji, 1.i had told you my experience,reaserchers are welcome to study this result. i use retrograde planet while considering transits of DBA swami.it gives the result of retrograde planet 2.generally i follow natal horoscope only 3.if query cant be solved by natal then only i follow horary 4.i have not studied dr.kar`s theory so no comments on it. 5.due to lack of time i have not compiled the data separately but i will present the cases before forum hereafter. thanks -sunil gondhalekar tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar,1. On the basis of how many cases you're saying that you are not getting results out of this theory?2. How many charts details can you provide here for KP researchers to practically study whether this theory is not working or Dr. Kar's retrograde theory is working.3. Burden of proof is on you because you're saying this theory is not working and the duty of KP researchers is to study whether your saying is correct or not. They do practical research on hundred charts other than just giving statements.Regards,tw> regarding this retrograde planets , sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote:>> dear members,> more importance is given for retrograde planet in horary by our KSK> but my eperience is that we are not getting results out of this theory> regarding this retrograde planets,i used to discuss this matter with our> guruji,late jyotindra hasbe.he told me the theory is under observation> i dont use this theory in my 4 step but this is used only when we check> transit of DBA swami. which is explained in detail in my book> -sunil gondhalekar> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> i) in KP Reader VI, page 145> > In a Natal chart, do not worry whether a planet is in direct motion> or retrograde. There is no difference. Retrograde planets neither> loose strength nor they are harmful.> > ii) in KP Reader VI, page 146-7> > Rules for Horary chart.> > , jammalamadugu rangan > <jammalamadugu_rangan@> wrote:> >> > Dear Vishy Nair,> > Retrrogression is only for Horary charts.> > It has been pointed out by someone in these columns rightly the > rules by Guruji KSK> > viz that in natal chart retograde planets make no difference nor > are they week.> > Thank you,> > Jammalamadugu Rangan > > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote:> > Dear Shri Rangan Garu> > > > Can we apply this rule for a natal chart or a horary chart or > for both?> > > > Regards> > MK Viswanath> > > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan@> wrote:> > Dear Singhal,> > > > The planets posited in the star and sub of retrograde planets > negate the results and the event in question would not fructify.> > Jammalamadugu Rangan> > > > singhal_1971 <singhal_1971@> wrote:> > I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of > one of my > > colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either in > the > > star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can > anyone > > guide how to predict.> > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to > download CHAT? Here's a solution! > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your own web address.> > Have a HUGE year through Small Business.> >> > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.> Try the free Mail Beta.> Be a PS3 game guru.Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Dear Sunil Gondhalekar, Due to lack of a sufficient research work the statement of retrograde theory not working in horary deems unreliable. Just saying experience isn't a proof. Regards, tw , sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote: > > dear shri tin win ji, > 1.i had told you my experience,reaserchers are welcome to study this result. > i use retrograde planet while considering transits of DBA swami.it gives the result > of retrograde planet > 2.generally i follow natal horoscope only > 3.if query cant be solved by natal then only i follow horary > 4.i have not studied dr.kar`s theory so no comments on it. > 5.due to lack of time i have not compiled the data separately but i will present the cases before forum > hereafter. > thanks > -sunil gondhalekar > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear Mr. Sunil Gondhalekar, > > 1. On the basis of how many cases you're saying that you are not > getting results out of this theory? > > 2. How many charts details can you provide here for KP researchers > to practically study whether this theory is not working or Dr. Kar's > retrograde theory is working. > > 3. Burden of proof is on you because you're saying this theory is > not working and the duty of KP researchers is to study whether your > saying is correct or not. They do practical research on hundred > charts other than just giving statements. > > Regards, > > tw > > > regarding this retrograde planets > , sunil gondhalekar > <sunilalaka@> wrote: > > > > dear members, > > more importance is given for retrograde planet in horary by our > KSK > > but my eperience is that we are not getting results out of this > theory > > regarding this retrograde planets,i used to discuss this matter > with our > > guruji,late jyotindra hasbe.he told me the theory is under > observation > > i dont use this theory in my 4 step but this is used only when > we check > > transit of DBA swami. which is explained in detail in my book > > -sunil gondhalekar > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > i) in KP Reader VI, page 145 > > > > In a Natal chart, do not worry whether a planet is in direct motion > > or retrograde. There is no difference. Retrograde planets neither > > loose strength nor they are harmful. > > > > ii) in KP Reader VI, page 146-7 > > > > Rules for Horary chart. > > > > , jammalamadugu rangan > > <jammalamadugu_rangan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vishy Nair, > > > Retrrogression is only for Horary charts. > > > It has been pointed out by someone in these columns rightly the > > rules by Guruji KSK > > > viz that in natal chart retograde planets make no difference nor > > are they week. > > > Thank you, > > > Jammalamadugu Rangan > > > > > > Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair@> wrote: > > > Dear Shri Rangan Garu > > > > > > Can we apply this rule for a natal chart or a horary chart or > > for both? > > > > > > Regards > > > MK Viswanath > > > > > > jammalamadugu rangan <jammalamadugu_rangan@> wrote: > > > Dear Singhal, > > > > > > The planets posited in the star and sub of retrograde planets > > negate the results and the event in question would not fructify. > > > Jammalamadugu Rangan > > > > > > singhal_1971 <singhal_1971@> wrote: > > > I once had the oppurtunity of calculating the transfer of > > one of my > > > colleagues and in the chart drawn, all the planets were either > in > > the > > > star or in the sub of a retrograde planet. In such cases, can > > anyone > > > guide how to predict. > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Office firewalls, cyber cafes, college labs, don't allow you to > > download CHAT? Here's a solution! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your own web address. > > > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > Try the free Mail Beta. > > > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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