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Kanakji

 

You were asking for one exmple

givan by sri

KSK ji with useing western

aspect.

I’ve found one in Reader V and I have not yet

searched the other readers.

 

ReaderV

p-lii

 

Topic :

western system amended by KSK

“Rahu is in 12 to

Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular aspect . Venus

Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc

etc”

 

 

I’ll let you know if I can find more such cases

using aspect.

 

 

Regards

 

Suprakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf

Of Kanak Bosmia

Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM

 

RE: Re:

Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis

 

 

Dear Suprakash ji,

 

 

 

 

 

1) you are right first we do work on what written in

readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data with

considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you mail you have

mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write about what i given

in my message i know that and i never ask about it.this is the second work on

multimarriage when we add JUP, if i know that you are work on this rules i will

give you many data which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even

native married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your

reply on another data.

 

 

 

 

 

2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.

 

 

 

 

 

3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon

value in new 5 data.

 

 

 

 

 

4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i

am much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry about

any number of question on this work, but if you use all rules you will found

each and every chart with multiple marriage, that is 100%, we have check this

too.

 

 

 

 

 

5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in

my work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check with at

list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my message

10245.

 

 

 

 

 

i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont

worry about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good

educative exercises.

 

 

 

 

 

with best regards

 

 

Kanak Bosmia

 

Suprakash Ghosh

<suprakash.ghosh wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kanakji

 

 

1)The

rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as per your mail ,

Message #10245

 

 

I have just made the rules more difficult by considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was

either/or situation)

 

 

2) Interesting point…. Can’t tell you right now.

 

 

3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and Asc , Moon values matches with your data.

 

 

4) I am not

contradicting your findings. .I’m just examining

the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the need of it

when the job has already been done by you…but it is for my own

satisfaction.

 

 

5)

With reference to your reply in Sujataji’s

case, You yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup

along with Merc for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)

 

 

Jupitar,

is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs also.

 

 

I’ll

definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you , but afraid I won’t be able to get back before

next Monday as I am out of the town till Sunday.

 

 

Regards

 

 

Suprakash

 

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

 

On

Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

Wednesday, April 11, 2007

7:51 AM

 

Re: Re:

Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis

 

 

 

Dear suprakash ji,

 

 

 

 

thanks for analysis,

 

 

 

 

1) Please give refernace in which book rules

mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles

about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing

western aspect. I need only one exmple

no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value for all 5 case to tally

with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you

want to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules

and if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evry chart with

multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to

find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage data you

will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we

check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.

 

 

 

 

Please check this:

 

 

 

 

(2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146

IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON

MARRIAGE.....

 

 

 

 

(A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen

are Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce

where writen)

there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add some more

from other rules. I have send you

analysis base only on this rules.

 

 

 

 

1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate

multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the

2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that

is conected with 11 attachment and

friendship please check. and i have send you some case

specialy indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by

you in first mail.

 

 

 

 

Case 1:

 

 

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

 

 

Case -2

 

 

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

 

 

Case-3:

 

 

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

 

 

Case no:4

 

 

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

 

 

Case no:5:

 

 

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

 

 

now befor you give me reply please check more

five chart and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.

 

 

 

 

1)

 

 

 

 

 

25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England

51 30 N 0 10 W England

 

 

 

 

2)

 

 

 

 

19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach,

CA

33 47 N 118 11 W USA

 

 

 

 

3)

 

 

 

 

13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago,

IL

41 51 N 87 39 W USA

 

 

 

 

4)

 

 

 

 

05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington,

OH

40 34 N 84 12 W USA

 

 

 

 

5)

 

 

 

 

06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan,

Chile

36 36 S 72 7 W Chile

 

 

 

 

After a long time there is a aducative

discuusion start in group.

 

 

 

 

regards

 

 

 

 

Kanak Bosmia

 

 

 

 

 

 

feluda4u

<suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kanakji,

 

Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.

 

The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.

 

If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I

need your help in this regard.

 

First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by

Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:

 

The following conditions to be satisfied :

 

Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is

deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is

Mercury/Jupiter.

 

Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of

houser 2 or 11 or both.

 

Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of

either 7 or 11

 

All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.

 

Now let us review the cases under these rules.

 

Case-1

 

i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition

A )

 

ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet

in Mercury star. (Condition B )

 

iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc.

hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd

& 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )

 

All the conditions satisfied.

 

Case-2

 

i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition

A )

 

ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet

in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition

aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )

 

iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of

Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd

cusp. (Condition C )

 

All the conditions satisfied.

 

Case-3

 

i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces

(Condition A )

 

ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of

2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is

also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )

 

iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of

Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp

and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )

 

All the conditions satisfied.

 

Case-4

 

i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini

(Condition A )

 

ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who

is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of

Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )

 

iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of

11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of

11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with

Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )

 

All the conditions satisfied.

 

Case-5

 

i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord

of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual

planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual

planet. (Condition A )

 

ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of

11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is

the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd

cusp.

 

iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp

sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong

significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star

of Mercury.

 

All the conditions satisfied.

 

-- In ,

Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

>

> Dear Suprakash ji,

>

> please check bellow data:

>

===================================================================

> (1)

> 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France

> 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA

> Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24

> Heading / Item Notes

> Relationship:Number of Marriages Four

> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.

> RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o

5,SAT is in 12

> l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,

> Not indicate multiple marriage.

> As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.

> SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6

Conj. with JUP l/o 9

> Indicate multiple marriage.

>

> ==================================================================

> (2)

> (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY

> 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01

> Heading / Item Notes

> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.

> RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.

> Not indicate multiple marriage.

> As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.

> MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple

marriage.

>

=====================================================================

> 3)

>

> (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI

> 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA

> Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52

> Heading / Item Notes

> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.

> SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.

> Not indicate multiple marriage.

> As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.

> MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.

> Indicate multiple marriage.

> ===============================================================

> (4)

> 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ

> 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17

> Heading / Item Notes

> Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine

> Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.

> SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.

> As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.

> VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in

11.

> Indicate multiple marriage.

> ==================================================================

> 5)

>

> 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA

> 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12

> Heading / Item Notes

> Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine

>

> Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.

> MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 ,

> Not indicate multiple marraige.

> As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.

> SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.

> ================================================================

> this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100

data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you

need more i will send you.

>

> hope this help

>

> regards

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

>

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Raichurji

>

> Even if you consider the assumed relation, which

relation is logical to consider between the two wives-

>

> If we consider 9th : her younger sister

> If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present

wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation)

>

> I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as

used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy

myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.

>

> My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you

please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?

>

> Regards

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

>

 

 

On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM

>

> RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th

>

> Dear Ghosh

>

> I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has

not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th

her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to

find a 3rd child in the family.

>

> good luck

>

>

>

> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

> Dear Raichurji

>

> In present day context is it relevant? Now a days,

one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still

alive.

>

> Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the

second wife, by law is like a keep.

>

> I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of

her husband a younger sister.

>

> Also, generally there must be some indication of

separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.

>

> In this logic judging extramarital relation from

9th cusp is more logical.

>

> Your valued opinion please.

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM

>

> Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th

>

> This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife

is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is

acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not

prohibited in Hindoo Society.

>

>

>

>

> feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for

> second marriage?

>

> I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which

> suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.

>

> 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which

the

> sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual

planet

> then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV

>

> 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th

> house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a

> keep...'

> P146,ReaderIV

>

> Regards

>

> Suprakash

>

> ,

Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ravi ji,

> > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual

> rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this

an

> > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles,

if

> the

> > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual

sign,

> then

> > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am

looking

> at,

> > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in

Scorpio,

> in

> > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look

> promising

> > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ravi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " A person should not be too honest.

> > Straight trees are cut first

> > And Honest people are screwed first. "

> > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC

> 75 BC)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear suprakash ji, I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it. please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very intrested to know about it. regards Kanak BosmiaSuprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Kanakji You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I’ve found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the other readers. ReaderV p-lii Topic : western system amended by

KSK “Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc” I’ll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaWednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM Subject: RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis Dear Suprakash ji, 1) you are right first we do work on what written in readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data which are not indicate multimarriage as per this

rules even native married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your reply on another data. 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time. 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in new 5 data. 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, that is 100%, we have check this too. 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my message 10245. i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good educative exercises. with best regards Kanak BosmiaSuprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanakji 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as per your mail , Message #10245 I have just made the rules more difficult by considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or situation) 2) Interesting point…. Can’t tell you right now. 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and Asc , Moon values matches with your data. 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I’m just examining the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for my own satisfaction. 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji’s case, You yourself has admitted the

importance of taking Jup along with Merc for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245) Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs also. I’ll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you , but afraid I won’t be able to get back before next Monday as I am out of the town till Sunday. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaWednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis Dear suprakash ji, thanks for analysis, 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five

rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result. Please check this: (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON MARRIAGE..... (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are

Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce where writen) there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on this rules. 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail.

Case 1: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case -2 Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case-3: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case no:4 Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case no:5: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and

give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate. 1) 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England 51 30 N 0 10 W England 2) 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA 33 47 N 118 11 W USA 3) 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL 41 51 N 87 39 W USA 4) 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH 40 34 N 84 12 W USA 5) 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group. regards Kanak Bosmia feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanakji,Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I need your help in this regard.First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:The following conditions to be satisfied :Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is

Mercury/Jupiter.Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of houser 2 or 11 or both.Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.Now let us review the cases under these rules.Case-1i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition A )ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet in Mercury star. (Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-2i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition A )ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord

of the 2nd cusp & have opposition aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp. (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-3i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces (Condition A )ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-4i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini (Condition A )ii)Venus is the

strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-5i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual planet. (Condition A )ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd cusp.iii)The

sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star of Mercury.All the conditions satisfied.-- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Suprakash ji,> > please check bellow data:> ===================================================================> (1)> 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o 5,SAT is in 12 > l/o

10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 Conj. with JUP l/o 9> Indicate multiple marriage.> > ==================================================================> (2)> (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple marriage. >

=====================================================================> 3)> > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> Indicate multiple marriage.> ===============================================================> (4)> 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of

Marriages At least nine> Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in 11.> Indicate multiple marriage.> ==================================================================> 5)> > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > Not indicate multiple marraige.> As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.>

================================================================> this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you need more i will send you.> > hope this help> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear Raichurji> > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > I have personally no

problem accepting 9th house as used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > Dear Ghosh> > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has not. The 5th house, still represents

your wifes 1st child, the 7th her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to find a 3rd child in the family. > > good luck> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > Dear Raichurji> > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still alive.> > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the second wife, by law is like a keep.> > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of her husband a younger sister.> > Also, generally there must be some indication of separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > In this logic judging extramarital relation from 9th cusp is more logical.> > Your valued opinion please.> > Regards> > > >

Suprakash> > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > second marriage?>

> I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which the > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual planet > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a > keep...'> P146,ReaderIV> > Regards> > Suprakash> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Ravi ji,> > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second

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Dear supraksh ji, Ok now i am able to find out page which you have mention. it is 257 not lii. please look 4th pera on same page: THEREFORE WHILE JUDGING THE TRAM\NSIT RESULT, THE FOLLOWING MUST BE INCLUDED: A)............ B)..........C)............... SUCH A consideration will be corrective method for the western system. All what is mention in this page or in all areticles is about TRANSIT(GOCHAR) not for natal chart. i want to know exmple about western aspect used by sri KSK ji in natal chart or horary chart. hope this clear now regards Kanak Bosmia Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Kanakji You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I’ve found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the other readers. ReaderV p-lii Topic : western system amended by KSK “Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc” I’ll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaWednesday, April 11,

2007 5:00 PM Subject: RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis Dear Suprakash ji, 1) you are right first we do work on what written in readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your reply on another data. 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have

time. 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in new 5 data. 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, that is 100%, we have check this too. 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my message 10245. i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good educative exercises. with best regards Kanak BosmiaSuprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanakji 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as per your mail , Message #10245 I have just made the rules more

difficult by considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or situation) 2) Interesting point…. Can’t tell you right now. 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and Asc , Moon values matches with your data. 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I’m just examining the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for my own satisfaction. 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji’s case, You yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245) Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces,

two dual signs also. I’ll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you , but afraid I won’t be able to get back before next Monday as I am out of the town till Sunday. Regards Suprakash -----Original

Message----- On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaWednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis Dear suprakash ji, thanks for analysis, 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result. Please check this: (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON MARRIAGE..... (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce where writen) there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on this rules. 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail. Case 1: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case -2 Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case-3: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case no:4 Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE

MARRIAGE. Case no:5: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate. 1) 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England 51 30 N 0 10 W England 2) 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA 33 47 N 118 11 W USA 3) 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago,

IL 41 51 N 87 39 W USA 4) 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH 40 34 N 84 12 W USA 5) 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group. regards Kanak Bosmia feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanakji,Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I need your help in this regard.First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:The following conditions to be satisfied :Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury/Jupiter.Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of houser 2 or 11 or both.Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.Now let us review the cases under these rules.Case-1i)The

sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition A )ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet in Mercury star. (Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-2i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition A )ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp. (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-3i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign

Pisces (Condition A )ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-4i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini (Condition A )ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square

aspect with Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-5i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual planet. (Condition A )ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd cusp.iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star of Mercury.All the conditions satisfied.-- In , Kanak Bosmia

<kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Suprakash ji,> > please check bellow data:> ===================================================================> (1)> 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o 5,SAT is in 12 > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 Conj. with JUP l/o 9> Indicate multiple marriage.> >

==================================================================> (2)> (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple marriage. > =====================================================================> 3)> > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five>

Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> Indicate multiple marriage.> ===============================================================> (4)> 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in 11.> Indicate multiple marriage.>

==================================================================> 5)> > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > Not indicate multiple marraige.> As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> ================================================================> this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you need more i will send you.> > hope this help> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash

Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear Raichurji> > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > Regards> > Suprakash> >

> > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > Dear Ghosh> > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to find a 3rd child in the family. > > good luck> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > Dear Raichurji> > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, one can't

marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still alive.> > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the second wife, by law is like a keep.> > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of her husband a younger sister.> > Also, generally there must be some indication of separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > In this logic judging extramarital relation from 9th cusp is more logical.> > Your valued opinion please.> > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > second marriage?> > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which the > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual planet > then 2nd marriage is promised.'

p181,ReaderIV> > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a > keep...'> P146,ReaderIV> > Regards> > Suprakash> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Ravi ji,> > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > Dear all,> > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this an> > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles,

if > the> > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual sign, > then> > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am looking > at,> > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in Scorpio, > in> > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look > promising> > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.> > > > Regards,> > > > Ravi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > >

> > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate> > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.> >> > > > > > > Good Luck> Raichur A R> Bombay Tel 2506 2609> Do not use anant_1608 @.cm Iam closing that account> > > > > > > Get your own web address.> Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > > > > > > > Good Luck> Raichur A R> Bombay Tel 2506 2609> Do not use anant_1608 @.cm Iam closing that account> > > > > Be a PS3 game guru.> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at

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Dear Kanak I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method modified by KSK. Opp this page is "Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains"Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear suprakash ji, I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it. please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very intrested to know about

it. regards Kanak BosmiaSuprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Kanakji You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I’ve found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the other readers. ReaderV p-lii Topic : western system amended by KSK “Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc” I’ll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaWednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM Subject: RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis Dear Suprakash ji, 1) you are right first we do work on what written in readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data

with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your reply on another data. 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time. 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in new 5 data. 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, that is 100%, we have check this too. 5) in message 10245 my

meaning is ( I also mention in my work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my message 10245. i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good educative exercises. with best regards Kanak BosmiaSuprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanakji 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as per your mail , Message #10245 I have just made the rules more difficult by considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or situation) 2) Interesting point…. Can’t tell you right now. 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and Asc , Moon values matches with your data. 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I’m just examining the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the need of it when the job has

already been done by you…but it is for my own satisfaction. 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji’s case, You yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245) Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs also. I’ll

definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you , but afraid I won’t be able to get back before next Monday as I am out of the town till Sunday. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Kanak

BosmiaWednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis Dear suprakash ji, thanks for analysis, 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji

with useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result. Please check this: (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON MARRIAGE..... (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce where writen) there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on this rules. 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of

either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail. Case 1: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case -2 Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case-3: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case no:4 Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case no:5: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate. 1) 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England 51 30 N 0 10 W England 2) 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA 33 47 N 118 11 W USA 3) 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL 41 51 N 87 39 W USA 4) 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH 40 34 N 84 12 W USA 5) 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group. regards Kanak Bosmia feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanakji,Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I need your help in this

regard.First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:The following conditions to be satisfied :Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury/Jupiter.Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of houser 2 or 11 or both.Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.Now let us review the cases under these rules.Case-1i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition A )ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet in Mercury star. (Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord

of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-2i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition A )ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp. (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-3i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces (Condition A )ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the

star of Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-4i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini (Condition A )ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-5i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual planet.Moreover, the sub

sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual planet. (Condition A )ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd cusp.iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star of Mercury.All the conditions satisfied.-- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Suprakash ji,> > please check bellow data:> ===================================================================> (1)> 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > 47 28 N 0 33 W

France Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o 5,SAT is in 12 > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 Conj. with JUP l/o 9> Indicate multiple marriage.> > ==================================================================> (2)> (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of

MOO.> RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple marriage. > =====================================================================> 3)> > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> Indicate multiple marriage.>

===============================================================> (4)> 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in 11.> Indicate multiple marriage.> ==================================================================> 5)> > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER

in the star and sub of RAH.> MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > Not indicate multiple marraige.> As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> ================================================================> this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you need more i will send you.> > hope this help> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear Raichurji> > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which relation is logical to

consider between the two wives-> > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > Dear Ghosh> > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to find a 3rd child in the family. > > good luck> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > Dear Raichurji> > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still alive.> > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the second wife, by law is like a keep.> > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of her husband a younger sister.> > Also, generally there

must be some indication of separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > In this logic judging extramarital relation from 9th cusp is more logical.> > Your valued opinion please.> > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2

marriages, were not prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > second marriage?> > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which the > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual planet > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a > keep...'> P146,ReaderIV> > Regards> > Suprakash> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Ravi ji,> > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > Dear all,> > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this an> > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles, if > the> > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual sign, > then> > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am looking > at,> > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in

Scorpio, > in> > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look > promising> > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.> > > > Regards,> > > > Ravi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate> > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.> >> > > > > > > Good Luck> Raichur A R> Bombay Tel 2506 2609> Do

not use anant_1608 @.cm Iam closing that account> > > > > > > Get your own web address.> Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > > > > > > > Good Luck> Raichur A R> Bombay Tel 2506 2609> Do not use anant_1608 @.cm Iam closing that account> > > > > Be a PS3 game guru.> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > >

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Dear sri Raichur ji, Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that. Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i am waiting for his reply. regards Kanak BosmiaRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Kanak I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method modified by KSK. Opp this page is "Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains"Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear suprakash ji, I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it. please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very intrested to know about it. regards Kanak BosmiaSuprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Kanakji You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I’ve found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the other readers. ReaderV p-lii Topic : western system amended by KSK “Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc” I’ll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaWednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM Subject: RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis Dear Suprakash ji, 1) you are right first we do work on what written in readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask about it.this is the second work on

multimarriage when we add JUP, if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your reply on another data. 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time. 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in new 5 data. 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, that is 100%, we have check this too. 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my message 10245. i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good educative exercises. with best regards Kanak BosmiaSuprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanakji 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as per your mail , Message #10245 I have just made the rules more difficult by considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or situation) 2) Interesting point…. Can’t

tell you right now. 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and Asc , Moon values matches with your data. 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I’m just examining the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for my own satisfaction. 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji’s case, You yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245) Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs also. I’ll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you , but afraid I won’t be able to get back before next Monday as I am out of the town till

Sunday. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaWednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis Dear suprakash ji, thanks for analysis, 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon

position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result. Please check this: (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON

MARRIAGE..... (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce where writen) there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on this rules. 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail. Case 1: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case -2 Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case-3: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case no:4 Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case no:5: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE

MARRIAGE. now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate. 1) 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England 51 30 N 0 10 W England 2) 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA 33 47 N 118 11 W USA 3) 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL 41 51 N 87 39 W USA 4) 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington,

OH 40 34 N 84 12 W USA 5) 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group. regards Kanak Bosmia feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanakji,Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I need your help in this regard.First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this

forum before:The following conditions to be satisfied :Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury/Jupiter.Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of houser 2 or 11 or both.Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.Now let us review the cases under these rules.Case-1i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition A )ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet in Mercury star. (Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )All the conditions

satisfied.Case-2i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition A )ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp. (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-3i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces (Condition A )ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp and semi

sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-4i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini (Condition A )ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-5i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual planet. (Condition A )ii) Sublord of

the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd cusp.iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star of Mercury.All the conditions satisfied.-- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Suprakash ji,> > please check bellow data:> ===================================================================> (1)> 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> Heading / Item

Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o 5,SAT is in 12 > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 Conj. with JUP l/o 9> Indicate multiple marriage.> > ==================================================================> (2)> (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> Not indicate multiple

marriage.> As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple marriage. > =====================================================================> 3)> > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> Indicate multiple marriage.> ===============================================================> (4)> 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT

Morristown, NJ > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in 11.> Indicate multiple marriage.> ==================================================================> 5)> > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > Not indicate multiple marraige.> As per Kanak:

9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> ================================================================> this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you need more i will send you.> > hope this help> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear Raichurji> > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> If we consider 2nd (as per

Krishnamurtiji) : Present wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > Dear

Ghosh> > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to find a 3rd child in the family. > > good luck> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > Dear Raichurji> > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still alive.> > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the second wife, by law is like a keep.> > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of her husband a younger sister.> > Also, generally there must be some indication of separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > In this logic judging extramarital relation from 9th cusp

is more logical.> > Your valued opinion please.> > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > >

> > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > second marriage?> > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which the > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual planet > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a > keep...'> P146,ReaderIV> > Regards> > Suprakash> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Ravi ji,> > Look 9th SL if 9th

SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > Dear all,> > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this an> > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles, if > the> > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual sign, > then> > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am looking > at,> > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in Scorpio, > in> > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look > promising> > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.> > > > Regards,> >

> > Ravi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate> > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.> >> > > > > > > Good Luck> Raichur A R> Bombay Tel 2506 2609> Do not use anant_1608 @.cm Iam closing that account> > > > > > > Get your own web address.> Have a HUGE year through Small

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Kanakji,

 

I’m out of my home

right now and I don’t have the book with me. Please read the paragraph I’ve

quoted. I may be wrong but as far as I can remember, it appears that KSK is

talking about Dasa Bhukti effect

according to the relative position of planets as per western aspect and not

transit.

 

 

Regards

 

Suprakash

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf

Of Kanak Bosmia

Thursday, April 12, 2007

2:03 PM

 

Cc: Tin Win

RE: Re:

Second marriage and sublord of 7th:aspects used by KSK

 

 

Dear sri Raichur ji,

 

 

Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is

256)it but it was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i

am wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK ji him

self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen by sri KSK ji so

we dont consider that.

 

 

 

 

 

Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this

question, and i am waiting for his reply.

 

 

 

 

 

regards

 

 

Kanak Bosmia

 

Raichur-a-r

<raichurar wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kanak

 

 

I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is

Western Method modified by KSK. Opp this page is " Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains "

 

Kanak Bosmia

<kanakbosmia > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear suprakash ji,

 

 

 

 

 

I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I

have 9th edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it.

 

 

 

 

 

please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i

am very intrested to know about it.

 

 

 

 

 

regards

 

 

Kanak Bosmia

 

Suprakash Ghosh

<suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kanakji

 

 

 

 

 

You were asking for one exmple

givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect.

 

 

I’ve found one in Reader V and I have not yet

searched the other readers.

 

 

ReaderV

 

 

p-lii

 

 

Topic :

western system amended by KSK

 

 

“Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are

forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc”

 

 

I’ll let you know if I can find

more such cases using aspect.

 

 

Regards

 

 

Suprakash

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

 

On

Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

Wednesday, April 11,

2007 5:00 PM

 

RE: Re:

Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis

 

 

 

Dear Suprakash ji,

 

 

 

 

1) you are right first we do work on what

written in readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data

with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you mail you have

mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write about what i given

in my message i know that and i never ask about it.this is the second work on

multimarriage when we add JUP, if i know that you are work on this rules i will

give you many data which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even

native married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your

reply on another data.

 

 

 

 

2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have

time.

 

 

 

 

3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and

Moon value in new 5 data.

 

 

 

 

4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work

but i am much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry

about any number of question on this work, but if you use all rules you will

found each and every chart with multiple marriage, that is 100%, we have check

this too.

 

 

 

 

5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also

mention in my work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check

with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my

message 10245.

 

 

 

 

i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and

dont worry about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good

educative exercises.

 

 

 

 

with best regards

 

 

 

 

Kanak Bosmia

 

Suprakash Ghosh

<suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kanakji

 

 

 

 

1)The

rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as per your mail ,

Message #10245

 

 

 

 

I have just made the rules more difficult by considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was

either/or situation)

 

 

 

 

2) Interesting point…. Can’t tell you right now.

 

 

 

 

3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and Asc , Moon values matches with your data.

 

 

 

 

4) I am not

contradicting your findings. .I’m just examining

the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the need of it

when the job has already been done by you…but it is for my own

satisfaction.

 

 

 

 

5)

With reference to your reply in Sujataji’s

case, You yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup

along with Merc for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)

 

 

 

 

Jupitar,

is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs also.

 

 

 

 

I’ll

definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you , but afraid I won’t be able to get back before

next Monday as I am out of the town till Sunday.

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

 

Suprakash

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original

Message-----

 

On

Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

Wednesday, April 11, 2007

7:51 AM

 

Re: Re:

Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis

 

 

 

 

 

Dear suprakash ji,

 

 

 

 

 

 

thanks for analysis,

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) Please give refernace in which book rules

mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles

about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing

western aspect. I need only one exmple

no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value for all 5 case to tally

with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you

want to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules

and if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evry chart with

multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to

find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage data you

will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we

check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please check this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

(2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146

IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON

MARRIAGE.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

(A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen

are Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce

where writen)

there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add some more

from other rules. I have send you

analysis base only on this rules.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate

multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the

2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that

is conected with 11 attachment and

friendship please check. and i have send you some case

specialy indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by

you in first mail.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Case 1:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Case -2

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Case-3:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Case no:4

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Case no:5:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

 

 

 

 

now befor you give me reply please check more

five chart and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England

51 30 N 0 10 W England

 

 

 

 

 

 

2)

 

 

 

 

 

 

19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach,

CA

33 47 N 118 11 W USA

 

 

 

 

 

 

3)

 

 

 

 

 

 

13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago,

IL

41 51 N 87 39 W USA

 

 

 

 

 

 

4)

 

 

 

 

 

 

05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington,

OH

40 34 N 84 12 W USA

 

 

 

 

 

 

5)

 

 

 

 

 

 

06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan,

Chile

36 36 S 72 7 W Chile

 

 

 

 

 

 

After a long time there is a aducative

discuusion start in group.

 

 

 

 

 

 

regards

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kanak Bosmia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kanakji,

 

Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.

 

The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.

 

If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I

need your help in this regard.

 

First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by

Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:

 

The following conditions to be satisfied :

 

Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is

deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is

Mercury/Jupiter.

 

Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of

houser 2 or 11 or both.

 

Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of

either 7 or 11

 

All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.

 

Now let us review the cases under these rules.

 

Case-1

 

i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition

A )

 

ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet

in Mercury star. (Condition B )

 

iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc.

hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd

& 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )

 

All the conditions satisfied.

 

Case-2

 

i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition

A )

 

ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet

in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition

aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )

 

iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of

Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd

cusp. (Condition C )

 

All the conditions satisfied.

 

Case-3

 

i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces

(Condition A )

 

ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of

2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is

also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )

 

iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of

Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp

and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )

 

All the conditions satisfied.

 

Case-4

 

i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini

(Condition A )

 

ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who

is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of

Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )

 

iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of

11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of

11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with

Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )

 

All the conditions satisfied.

 

Case-5

 

i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord

of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual

planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual

planet. (Condition A )

 

ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of

11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is

the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd

cusp.

 

iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp

sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong

significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star

of Mercury.

 

All the conditions satisfied.

 

-- In ,

Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

>

> Dear Suprakash ji,

>

> please check bellow data:

>

===================================================================

> (1)

> 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France

> 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA

> Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24

> Heading / Item Notes

> Relationship:Number of Marriages Four

> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.

> RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o

5,SAT is in 12

> l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,

> Not indicate multiple marriage.

> As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.

> SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6

Conj. with JUP l/o 9

> Indicate multiple marriage.

>

> ==================================================================

> (2)

> (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY

> 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01

> Heading / Item Notes

> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.

> RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.

> Not indicate multiple marriage.

> As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.

> MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple

marriage.

>

=====================================================================

> 3)

>

> (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI

> 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA

> Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52

> Heading / Item Notes

> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.

> SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.

> Not indicate multiple marriage.

> As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.

> MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.

> Indicate multiple marriage.

> ===============================================================

> (4)

> 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ

> 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17

> Heading / Item Notes

> Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine

> Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.

> SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.

> As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.

> VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in

11.

> Indicate multiple marriage.

> ==================================================================

> 5)

>

> 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA

> 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12

> Heading / Item Notes

> Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine

>

> Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.

> MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 ,

> Not indicate multiple marraige.

> As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.

> SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.

> ================================================================

> this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100

data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you

need more i will send you.

>

> hope this help

>

> regards

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

>

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Raichurji

>

> Even if you consider the assumed relation, which

relation is logical to consider between the two wives-

>

> If we consider 9th : her younger sister

> If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present

wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation)

>

> I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as

used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy

myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.

>

> My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you

please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?

>

> Regards

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

>

 

 

On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM

>

> RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th

>

> Dear Ghosh

>

> I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has

not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th

her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to

find a 3rd child in the family.

>

> good luck

>

>

>

> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

> Dear Raichurji

>

> In present day context is it relevant? Now a days,

one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still

alive.

>

> Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the

second wife, by law is like a keep.

>

> I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of

her husband a younger sister.

>

> Also, generally there must be some indication of

separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.

>

> In this logic judging extramarital relation from

9th cusp is more logical.

>

> Your valued opinion please.

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM

>

> Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th

>

> This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife

is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is

acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not

prohibited in Hindoo Society.

>

>

>

>

> feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for

> second marriage?

>

> I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which

> suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.

>

> 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which

the

> sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual

planet

> then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV

>

> 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th

> house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a

> keep...'

> P146,ReaderIV

>

> Regards

>

> Suprakash

>

> ,

Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ravi ji,

> > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual

> rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this

an

> > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles,

if

> the

> > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual

sign,

> then

> > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am

looking

> at,

> > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in

Scorpio,

> in

> > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look

> promising

> > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ravi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " A person should not be too honest.

> > Straight trees are cut first

> > And Honest people are screwed first. "

> > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC

> 75 BC)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate

> > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Good Luck

> Raichur A R

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II Om Gurave Namah IIHari OM

 

Dear friends,

In the beginning days Prof KSK used 108 number system and western aspects.

In Reader Vol 1 April 87 Fifth edition has chapter ASPECTS AND THEIR SIGNIFICATIONS,

Here as usual He has described hindu and western theory.There were few example about correction but use of aspect was not illustrated,

Please see page 198 in Horary volume while dealing with Child Birth with Numbers 108 He did enumerate determination of Significators titled a to f as steps .

is to be taken in the following order.He goes on from a to d .( that was determing significators steps) Here steps at e and f were related to Conjunction and receiving aspects.

What is important is Those receiving aspects from the indicators is titled f . That called for explanation which aspect to be taken.he taught both but hardly used any to determine Significator.

The confusion prevailed to the extent Astrology and athrishta April- june 1986 carried an article on aspects but Western written under brackets.It was authored by Sh K .M. Subramaniam.

Now as time passed His emphasis was on a to d and e f lost its force. I have several articles in my library written By sh KSK himself like one on Smt Indira Gandhi, Jagat guru shankra charya and Annual charts, He has not given much importance to aspects anywhere except Conjunction and hindu aspects.Hope My post is relevent and i am not disturbing the thred.

It is worth if reading is made of the aricle on aspects.It quotes views OF prof KSK as well states how cusp gets affected.But it is not of overwhelming importance for disuse.

With best wishes.

 

OM TATSATR.C.Srivastava" Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."

 

-

Kanak Bosmia

Cc: Tin Win

Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:03 PM

RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:aspects used by KSK

 

 

 

Dear sri Raichur ji,

Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.

 

Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i am waiting for his reply.

 

regards

Kanak BosmiaRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Kanak

I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method modified by KSK. Opp this page is "Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains"Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote:

 

 

 

Dear suprakash ji,

 

I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it.

 

please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very intrested to know about it.

 

regards

Kanak BosmiaSuprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Kanakji

 

You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect.

I’ve found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the other readers.

 

ReaderV

p-lii

 

Topic : western system amended by KSK

“Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc”

 

 

I’ll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.

 

 

Regards

 

Suprakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaWednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM Subject: RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis

 

 

Dear Suprakash ji,

 

 

 

1) you are right first we do work on what written in readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your reply on another data.

 

 

 

2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.

 

 

 

3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in new 5 data.

 

 

 

4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, that is 100%, we have check this too.

 

 

 

5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my message 10245.

 

 

 

i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good educative exercises.

 

 

 

with best regards

 

Kanak BosmiaSuprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kanakji

 

1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as per your mail , Message #10245

 

I have just made the rules more difficult by considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or situation)

 

2) Interesting point…. Can’t tell you right now.

 

3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and Asc , Moon values matches with your data.

 

4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I’m just examining the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for my own satisfaction.

 

5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji’s case, You yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)

 

Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs also.

 

I’ll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you , but afraid I won’t be able to get back before next Monday as I am out of the town till Sunday.

 

Regards

 

Suprakash

 

On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaWednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis

 

 

Dear suprakash ji,

 

 

thanks for analysis,

 

 

1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.

 

 

Please check this:

 

 

(2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON MARRIAGE.....

 

 

(A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce where writen) there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on this rules.

 

 

1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail.

 

 

Case 1:

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

Case -2

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

Case-3:

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

Case no:4

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

Case no:5:

 

 

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

 

 

now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.

 

 

1)

 

 

25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England 51 30 N 0 10 W England

 

 

2)

 

 

19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA 33 47 N 118 11 W USA

 

 

3)

 

 

13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL 41 51 N 87 39 W USA

 

 

4)

 

 

05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH 40 34 N 84 12 W USA

 

 

5)

 

 

06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile

 

 

After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group.

 

 

regards

 

 

Kanak Bosmia

 

 

feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Kanakji,Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I need your help in this regard.First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:The following conditions to be satisfied :Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury/Jupiter.Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of houser 2 or 11 or both.Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.Now let us review the cases under these rules.Case-1i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition A )ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet in Mercury star. (Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-2i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition A )ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp. (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-3i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces (Condition A )ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-4i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini (Condition A )ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-5i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual planet. (Condition A )ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd cusp.iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star of Mercury.All the conditions satisfied.-- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Suprakash ji,> > please check bellow data:> ===================================================================> (1)> 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o 5,SAT is in 12 > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 Conj. with JUP l/o 9> Indicate multiple marriage.> > ==================================================================> (2)> (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple marriage. > =====================================================================> 3)> > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> Indicate multiple marriage.> ===============================================================> (4)> 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in 11.> Indicate multiple marriage.> ==================================================================> 5)> > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > Not indicate multiple marraige.> As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> ================================================================> this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you need more i will send you.> > hope this help> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear Raichurji> > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > Dear Ghosh> > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to find a 3rd child in the family. > > good luck> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > Dear Raichurji> > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still alive.> > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the second wife, by law is like a keep.> > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of her husband a younger sister.> > Also, generally there must be some indication of separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > In this logic judging extramarital relation from 9th cusp is more logical.> > Your valued opinion please.> > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > second marriage?> > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which the > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual planet > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a > keep...'> P146,ReaderIV> > Regards> > Suprakash> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Ravi ji,> > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > Dear all,> > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this an> > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles, if > the> > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual sign, > then> > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am looking > at,> > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in Scorpio, > in> > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look > promising> > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.> > > > Regards,> > > > Ravi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate> > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.> >> > > > > > > Good Luck> Raichur A R> Bombay Tel 2506 2609> Do not use anant_1608 @.cm Iam closing that account> > > > > > > Get your own web address.> Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > > > > > > > Good Luck> Raichur A R> Bombay Tel 2506 2609> Do not use anant_1608 @.cm Iam closing that account> > > > > Be a PS3 game guru.> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Be a PS3 game guru.> Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games.>

 

 

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Dear Kanak,

 

1. What Mr. Suprakash Ghosh referring is in Introduction of KP

Reader V, Heading 16: " Ashtama Sani and Honour " , the example chart

is given there page xlvii and then the quoted para in under the sub-

heading " western system amended by K.S.K. " in page lii, at the end

of Item 16: " Ashtama Sani and Honour " .

 

2. That is on the opposite page of next Heading 17: " Sade-sati-

satisfadtory gains " , page liii (1983 Edition) as mentioned by Sr

Raichur.

 

3. A little bit touching of Western aspects are in pages of 139 and

140 of KP Reader IV (1984/2002 Edt) as mentioned by Dr. Rangarajan

Krishnamoorthy in Msg#3749.

 

4. Those examples may not be practically helpful in the application

of KP Rules. Moreover, aspects are a very weak sigificator as

mentioned in Msg#2595. Naturally, the closer the aspect is, the

greater is the influence experienced, but even aspects not within a

tight ORB as 3d:20m in 4 step method may produce a recognizable

effect.

 

5. Guruji KSK encouraged the study and use of Western aspects but

Hindu aspects and conjunction are commonly used in example charts of

KP Readers as some are mentioned in Msg#3748 and also example charts

in review on Rahu/Ketu Rules in Msg#8911 as given below.

 

2/ PLANET IN ASPECT RULE

 

2.1. RAHU/KETU AS PLANET

Reader III OE Part 2 pages 85/130/176/206-7/213(NE pages 244-

5/294/344/376-7/383-4)

Reader IV page 111

Reader VI page 187

 

2.2. RAHU/KETU AS STARLORD

Reader VI page 190

 

2.3. RAHU/KETU AS SUBLORD

Reader IV page 108

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

>

> Dear sri Raichur ji,

> Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it

was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am

wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK

ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen

by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.

>

> Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i

am waiting for his reply.

>

> regards

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

> Dear Kanak

> I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method

modified by KSK. Opp this page is " Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains "

>

> Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:

> Dear suprakash ji,

>

> I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th

edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it.

>

> please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very

intrested to know about it.

>

> regards

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

> Kanakji

>

>

> You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing

western aspect.

> I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the other

readers.

>

> ReaderV

> p-lii

>

> Topic : western system amended by KSK

> " Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular

aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc "

>

>

> I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.

>

>

> Regards

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM

>

> RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:

My analysis

>

> Dear Suprakash ji,

>

>

>

> 1) you are right first we do work on what written in readers,

then we need for add modification and re check all data with

considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you mail you

have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write

about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask about

it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, if i

know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data which

are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native married

second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your

reply on another data.

>

>

>

> 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.

>

>

>

> 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in

new 5 data.

>

>

>

> 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am much

happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry

about any number of question on this work, but if you use all rules

you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, that is

100%, we have check this too.

>

>

>

> 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my work)

that no one rules individually not work so we have to check with at

list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my

message 10245.

>

>

>

> i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry about

time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good

educative exercises.

>

>

>

> with best regards

>

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Kanakji

>

> 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as

per your mail , Message #10245

>

> I have just made the rules more difficult by

considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or

situation)

>

> 2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.

>

> 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and

Asc , Moon values matches with your data.

>

> 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining

the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the

need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for

my own satisfaction.

>

> 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You

yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc

for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)

>

> Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs also.

>

> I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you ,

but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday as I am

out of the town till Sunday.

>

> Regards

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM

>

> Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:

My analysis

>

> Dear suprakash ji,

>

>

> thanks for analysis,

>

>

> 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which

is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles

about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with

useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc

and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon

position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader

there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five

rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i

have done this first and then try to find out some comman from

all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same

multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check

with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.

>

>

> Please check this:

>

>

> (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146

> IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE,

SECON MARRIAGE.....

>

>

> (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual

Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you

refernce where writen)

> there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add

some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on

this rules.

>

>

> 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate

multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The

sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in

this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and

friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy

indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by

you in first mail.

>

>

> Case 1:

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

> Case -2

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

> Case-3:

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

> Case no:4

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

> Case no:5:

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

> now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and

give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.

>

>

> 1)

>

>

>

> 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England

> 51 30 N 0 10 W England

>

>

> 2)

>

>

> 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA

> 33 47 N 118 11 W USA

>

>

> 3)

>

>

> 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL

> 41 51 N 87 39 W USA

>

>

> 4)

>

>

> 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH

> 40 34 N 84 12 W USA

>

>

> 5)

>

>

> 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile

> 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile

>

>

> After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in

group.

>

>

> regards

>

>

> Kanak Bosmia

>

>

>

>

> feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

>

> Dear Kanakji,

>

> Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.

>

> The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.

>

> If requird I can analyse some more charts for further

confirmation.I

> need your help in this regard.

>

> First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by

> Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:

>

> The following conditions to be satisfied :

>

> Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is

> deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is

> Mercury/Jupiter.

>

> Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of

> houser 2 or 11 or both.

>

> Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator

of

> either 7 or 11

>

> All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.

>

> Now let us review the cases under these rules.

>

> Case-1

>

> i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition

> A )

>

> ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no

planet

> in Mercury star. (Condition B )

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc.

> hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also

2nd

> & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> Case-2

>

> i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition

> A )

>

> ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no

planet

> in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have

opposition

> aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of

> Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd

> cusp. (Condition C )

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> Case-3

>

> i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign

Pisces

> (Condition A )

>

> ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord

of

> 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is

> also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star

of

> Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th

cusp

> and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> Case-4

>

> i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign

Gemini

> (Condition A )

>

> ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of

Rahu,who

> is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of

> Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord

of

> 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of

> 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect

with

> Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> Case-5

>

> i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces.

Sublord

> of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual

> planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a

dual

> planet. (Condition A )

>

> ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of

> 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is

> the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd

> cusp.

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp

> sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong

> significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the

star

> of Mercury.

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Suprakash ji,

> >

> > please check bellow data:

> >

> ===================================================================

> > (1)

> > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France

> > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA

> > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four

> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.

> > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o

> 5,SAT is in 12

> > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,

> > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.

> > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6

> Conj. with JUP l/o 9

> > Indicate multiple marriage.

> >

> >

==================================================================

> > (2)

> > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY

> > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.

> > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.

> > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.

> > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple

> marriage.

> >

>

=====================================================================

> > 3)

> >

> > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI

> > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA

> > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.

> > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.

> > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.

> > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.

> > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > ===============================================================

> > (4)

> > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ

> > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine

> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.

> > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.

> > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.

> > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in

> 11.

> > Indicate multiple marriage.

> >

==================================================================

> > 5)

> >

> > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA

> > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine

> >

> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.

> > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 ,

> > Not indicate multiple marraige.

> > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.

> > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.

> > ================================================================

> > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100

> data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if

you

> need more i will send you.

> >

> > hope this help

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url

> (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape

> {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear

> Raichurji

> >

> > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which

> relation is logical to consider between the two wives-

> >

> > If we consider 9th : her younger sister

> > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present

> wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation)

> >

> > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as

> used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy

> myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.

> >

> > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you

> please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM

> >

> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th

> >

> > Dear Ghosh

> >

> > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has

> not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th

> her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare

to

> find a 3rd child in the family.

> >

> > good luck

> >

> >

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raichurji

> >

> > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days,

> one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still

> alive.

> >

> > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the

> second wife, by law is like a keep.

> >

> > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of

> her husband a younger sister.

> >

> > Also, generally there must be some indication of

> separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.

> >

> > In this logic judging extramarital relation from

> 9th cusp is more logical.

> >

> > Your valued opinion please.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM

> >

> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th

> >

> > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife

> is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is

> acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not

> prohibited in Hindoo Society.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for

> > second marriage?

> >

> > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which

> > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.

> >

> > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in

which

> the

> > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual

> planet

> > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV

> >

> > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th

> > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will

keep a

> > keep...'

> > P146,ReaderIV

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ravi ji,

> > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in

dual

> > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is

this

> an

> > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP

principles,

> if

> > the

> > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual

> sign,

> > then

> > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am

> looking

> > at,

> > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in

> Scorpio,

> > in

> > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look

> > promising

> > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ravi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " A person should not be too honest.

> > > Straight trees are cut first

> > > And Honest people are screwed first. "

> > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350

BC

> > 75 BC)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> >

> >

> >

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Dear Tin Win ji, thanks for information. as per my personal experince i use Vedic aspect and only for node, bcoze node give first result of apsected planet, and to fix signification of Node we need apsect.otherewise generaly i do not use aspect. I feel that one have to write good book on KP principle with each and every rule and lotof exmple of that rule, in simple and eassy way.bcoze in reader on some point there is contradictry, like aspect, in first reader sri KSK ji suggest to use western aspect but he himself us Vedic( may be 2-3 exmple one can findout but we have to look for most of case not rear case), in first reader we found some metterial about Navmansa but after that we dont found anything on navmansa. which daylord we haveto use sunrise to sunrise or 00 Hrs.? i try to find out what Sri Ksk ji use but after refering all reader i found only one case

which was befor sunrise and use sunrise to sunrise. so to clear all doubt KP Comunity need good book. regards Kanak Bosmiatw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak,1. What Mr. Suprakash Ghosh referring is in Introduction of KP Reader V, Heading 16: "Ashtama Sani and Honour", the example chart is given there page xlvii and then the quoted para in under the sub-heading "western system amended by K.S.K." in page lii, at the end of Item 16: "Ashtama

Sani and Honour".2. That is on the opposite page of next Heading 17: "Sade-sati-satisfadtory gains", page liii (1983 Edition) as mentioned by Sr Raichur.3. A little bit touching of Western aspects are in pages of 139 and 140 of KP Reader IV (1984/2002 Edt) as mentioned by Dr. Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy in Msg#3749.4. Those examples may not be practically helpful in the application of KP Rules. Moreover, aspects are a very weak sigificator as mentioned in Msg#2595. Naturally, the closer the aspect is, the greater is the influence experienced, but even aspects not within a tight ORB as 3d:20m in 4 step method may produce a recognizable effect.5. Guruji KSK encouraged the study and use of Western aspects but Hindu aspects and conjunction are commonly used in example charts of KP Readers as some are mentioned in Msg#3748 and also example charts in review on Rahu/Ketu Rules in Msg#8911 as given

below.2/ PLANET IN ASPECT RULE2.1. RAHU/KETU AS PLANET Reader III OE Part 2 pages 85/130/176/206-7/213(NE pages 244-5/294/344/376-7/383-4)Reader IV page 111Reader VI page 1872.2. RAHU/KETU AS STARLORD Reader VI page 1902.3. RAHU/KETU AS SUBLORD Reader IV page 108Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear sri Raichur ji,> Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.> > Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i am waiting for his

reply.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:> Dear Kanak> I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method modified by KSK. Opp this page is "Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains"> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> Dear suprakash ji,> > I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it. > > please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very intrested to know about it.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > Kanakji> > > You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect.> I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the other readers.>

> ReaderV> p-lii> > Topic : western system amended by KSK> "Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc"> > > I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.> > > Regards> > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis> > Dear Suprakash

ji,> > > > 1) you are right first we do work on what written in readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your reply on another data.> > > > 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.> > > > 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in new 5 data.> > > > 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am much

happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, that is 100%, we have check this too.> > > > 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my message 10245.> > > > i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good educative exercises.> > > > with best regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > > Dear Kanakji> > 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as per your

mail , Message #10245> > I have just made the rules more difficult by considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or situation)> > 2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.> > 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and Asc , Moon values matches with your data.> > 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for my own satisfaction.> > 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)> > Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs also.> > I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you , but afraid I won't be able to get back before

next Monday as I am out of the town till Sunday.> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis> > Dear suprakash ji,> > > thanks for analysis,> > > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon

value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.> > > Please check this:> > > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146> IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON MARRIAGE.....> > > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce where writen)> there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add some more from other

rules. I have send you analysis base only on this rules.> > > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail. > > > Case 1:> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > Case -2> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > Case-3:> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > Case no:4> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > Case no:5:> > >

Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.> > > 1)> > > > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England > 51 30 N 0 10 W England > > > 2)> > > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA > > > 3)> > > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA > > > 4)> > > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA > > > 5)> > > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile > > > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group.> > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia>

> > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > Dear Kanakji,> > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.> > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.> > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I > need your help in this regard.> > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:> > The following conditions to be satisfied :> > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is > Mercury/Jupiter.> > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of > houser 2 or 11 or both.> > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of

> either 7 or 11> > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.> > Now let us review the cases under these rules.> > Case-1> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet > in Mercury star. (Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-2> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition >

aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd > cusp. (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-3> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces > (Condition A )> > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-4> > i)The sublord of

the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini > (Condition A )> > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-5> > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual > planet. (Condition A )> > ii) Sublord

of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd > cusp.> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star > of Mercury.> > All the conditions satisfied.> > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > please check bellow data:> > > ===================================================================> > (1)> > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France >

> 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o > 5,SAT is in 12 > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 > Conj. with JUP l/o 9> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > > ==================================================================> > (2)> > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> > Heading /

Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple > marriage. > > > =====================================================================> > 3)> > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> > Not indicate multiple

marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > ===============================================================> > (4)> > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in > 11.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> >

==================================================================> > 5)> > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > > Not indicate multiple marraige.> > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> > ================================================================> > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you > need more i will send you.>

> > > hope this help> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url> (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear > Raichurji> > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't

work.> > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > Dear Ghosh> > > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th > her second, and 9th her

third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to > find a 3rd child in the family. > > > > good luck> > > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > Dear Raichurji> > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still > alive.> > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the > second wife, by law is like a keep.> > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of > her husband a younger sister.> > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from > 9th cusp is more logical.> > > > Your valued

opinion please.> > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not > prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > > > > >

> feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > > second marriage?> > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which > the > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual > planet > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a > > keep...'> > P146,ReaderIV> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ravi ji,> > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this > an> > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles, > if > > the> > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual > sign, > > then> > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am

> looking > > at,> > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in > Scorpio, > > in> > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look > > promising> > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Ravi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy

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Dear Kanak,

 

As you're aware, Vedic/Hindu/Indian day is used in both Vedic and

KP. (KP Reader I page 100 & KP Reader VI page 138 and BV Raman:

Hindu Predictive Astrology page 29)

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

>

> Dear Tin Win ji,

>

> thanks for information.

>

> as per my personal experince i use Vedic aspect and only for

node, bcoze node give first result of apsected planet, and to fix

signification of Node we need apsect.otherewise generaly i do not

use aspect.

>

> I feel that one have to write good book on KP principle with

each and every rule and lotof exmple of that rule, in simple and

eassy way.bcoze in reader on some point there is contradictry, like

aspect, in first reader sri KSK ji suggest to use western aspect but

he himself us Vedic( may be 2-3 exmple one can findout but we have

to look for most of case not rear case), in first reader we found

some metterial about Navmansa but after that we dont found anything

on navmansa. which daylord we haveto use sunrise to sunrise or 00

Hrs.? i try to find out what Sri Ksk ji use but after refering all

reader i found only one case which was befor sunrise and use sunrise

to sunrise. so to clear all doubt KP Comunity need good book.

>

> regards

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Kanak,

>

> 1. What Mr. Suprakash Ghosh referring is in Introduction of KP

> Reader V, Heading 16: " Ashtama Sani and Honour " , the example chart

> is given there page xlvii and then the quoted para in under the

sub-

> heading " western system amended by K.S.K. " in page lii, at the end

> of Item 16: " Ashtama Sani and Honour " .

>

> 2. That is on the opposite page of next Heading 17: " Sade-sati-

> satisfadtory gains " , page liii (1983 Edition) as mentioned by Sr

> Raichur.

>

> 3. A little bit touching of Western aspects are in pages of 139

and

> 140 of KP Reader IV (1984/2002 Edt) as mentioned by Dr. Rangarajan

> Krishnamoorthy in Msg#3749.

>

> 4. Those examples may not be practically helpful in the

application

> of KP Rules. Moreover, aspects are a very weak sigificator as

> mentioned in Msg#2595. Naturally, the closer the aspect is, the

> greater is the influence experienced, but even aspects not within

a

> tight ORB as 3d:20m in 4 step method may produce a recognizable

> effect.

>

> 5. Guruji KSK encouraged the study and use of Western aspects but

> Hindu aspects and conjunction are commonly used in example charts

of

> KP Readers as some are mentioned in Msg#3748 and also example

charts

> in review on Rahu/Ketu Rules in Msg#8911 as given below.

>

> 2/ PLANET IN ASPECT RULE

>

> 2.1. RAHU/KETU AS PLANET

> Reader III OE Part 2 pages 85/130/176/206-7/213(NE pages 244-

> 5/294/344/376-7/383-4)

> Reader IV page 111

> Reader VI page 187

>

> 2.2. RAHU/KETU AS STARLORD

> Reader VI page 190

>

> 2.3. RAHU/KETU AS SUBLORD

> Reader IV page 108

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear sri Raichur ji,

> > Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it

> was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am

> wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri

KSK

> ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not

writen

> by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.

> >

> > Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i

> am waiting for his reply.

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> > Dear Kanak

> > I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method

> modified by KSK. Opp this page is " Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains "

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:

> > Dear suprakash ji,

> >

> > I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th

> edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check

it.

> >

> > please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very

> intrested to know about it.

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Kanakji

> >

> >

> > You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing

> western aspect.

> > I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the other

> readers.

> >

> > ReaderV

> > p-lii

> >

> > Topic : western system amended by KSK

> > " Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular

> aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc "

> >

> >

> > I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM

> >

> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th:

> My analysis

> >

> > Dear Suprakash ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > 1) you are right first we do work on what written in readers,

> then we need for add modification and re check all data with

> considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you mail

you

> have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write

> about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask about

> it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, if i

> know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data

which

> are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native

married

> second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your

> reply on another data.

> >

> >

> >

> > 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.

> >

> >

> >

> > 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in

> new 5 data.

> >

> >

> >

> > 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am much

> happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry

> about any number of question on this work, but if you use all

rules

> you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, that

is

> 100%, we have check this too.

> >

> >

> >

> > 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my work)

> that no one rules individually not work so we have to check with

at

> list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my

> message 10245.

> >

> >

> >

> > i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry about

> time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good

> educative exercises.

> >

> >

> >

> > with best regards

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Kanakji

> >

> > 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as

> per your mail , Message #10245

> >

> > I have just made the rules more difficult by

> considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or

> situation)

> >

> > 2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.

> >

> > 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and

> Asc , Moon values matches with your data.

> >

> > 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining

> the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the

> need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for

> my own satisfaction.

> >

> > 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You

> yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc

> for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)

> >

> > Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs also.

> >

> > I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you ,

> but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday as I am

> out of the town till Sunday.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM

> >

> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th:

> My analysis

> >

> > Dear suprakash ji,

> >

> >

> > thanks for analysis,

> >

> >

> > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which

> is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles

> about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with

> useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc

> and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon

> position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader

> there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five

> rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i

> have done this first and then try to find out some comman from

> all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same

> multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check

> with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.

> >

> >

> > Please check this:

> >

> >

> > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146

> > IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE,

> SECON MARRIAGE.....

> >

> >

> > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual

> Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you

> refernce where writen)

> > there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add

> some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on

> this rules.

> >

> >

> > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate

> multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The

> sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in

> this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and

> friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy

> indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give

by

> you in first mail.

> >

> >

> > Case 1:

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> > Case -2

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> > Case-3:

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> > Case no:4

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> > Case no:5:

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and

> give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.

> >

> >

> > 1)

> >

> >

> >

> > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England

> > 51 30 N 0 10 W England

> >

> >

> > 2)

> >

> >

> > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA

> > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA

> >

> >

> > 3)

> >

> >

> > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL

> > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA

> >

> >

> > 4)

> >

> >

> > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH

> > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA

> >

> >

> > 5)

> >

> >

> > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile

> > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile

> >

> >

> > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in

> group.

> >

> >

> > regards

> >

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Kanakji,

> >

> > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.

> >

> > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.

> >

> > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further

> confirmation.I

> > need your help in this regard.

> >

> > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said

by

> > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:

> >

> > The following conditions to be satisfied :

> >

> > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is

> > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is

> > Mercury/Jupiter.

> >

> > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator

of

> > houser 2 or 11 or both.

> >

> > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator

> of

> > either 7 or 11

> >

> > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.

> >

> > Now let us review the cases under these rules.

> >

> > Case-1

> >

> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet

(Condition

> > A )

> >

> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no

> planet

> > in Mercury star. (Condition B )

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with

Merc.

> > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is

also

> 2nd

> > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > Case-2

> >

> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet

(Condition

> > A )

> >

> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no

> planet

> > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have

> opposition

> > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of

> > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the

2nd

> > cusp. (Condition C )

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > Case-3

> >

> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign

> Pisces

> > (Condition A )

> >

> > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord

> of

> > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus

is

> > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star

> of

> > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th

> cusp

> > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > Case-4

> >

> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign

> Gemini

> > (Condition A )

> >

> > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of

> Rahu,who

> > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of

> > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord

> of

> > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator

of

> > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect

> with

> > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > Case-5

> >

> > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces.

> Sublord

> > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual

> > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a

> dual

> > planet. (Condition A )

> >

> > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator

of

> > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also

is

> > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with

2nd

> > cusp.

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp

> > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong

> > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the

> star

> > of Mercury.

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Suprakash ji,

> > >

> > > please check bellow data:

> > >

> >

===================================================================

> > > (1)

> > > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France

> > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four

> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.

> > > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o

> > 5,SAT is in 12

> > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,

> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.

> > > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6

> > Conj. with JUP l/o 9

> > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > >

> > >

> ==================================================================

> > > (2)

> > > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY

> > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.

> > > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.

> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.

> > > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple

> > marriage.

> > >

> >

>

=====================================================================

> > > 3)

> > >

> > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI

> > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA

> > > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.

> > > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.

> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.

> > > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.

> > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > > ===============================================================

> > > (4)

> > > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ

> > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine

> > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.

> > > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.

> > > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.

> > > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in

> > 11.

> > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > >

> ==================================================================

> > > 5)

> > >

> > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA

> > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine

> > >

> > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.

> > > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 ,

> > > Not indicate multiple marraige.

> > > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.

> > > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.

> > >

================================================================

> > > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly

100

> > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if

> you

> > need more i will send you.

> > >

> > > hope this help

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url

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> > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear

> > Raichurji

> > >

> > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which

> > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-

> > >

> > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister

> > > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present

> > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation)

> > >

> > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as

> > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to

satisfy

> > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.

> > >

> > > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you

> > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own

analysis?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM

> > >

> > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th

> > >

> > > Dear Ghosh

> > >

> > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has

> > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the

7th

> > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare

> to

> > find a 3rd child in the family.

> > >

> > > good luck

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raichurji

> > >

> > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days,

> > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still

> > alive.

> > >

> > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the

> > second wife, by law is like a keep.

> > >

> > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of

> > her husband a younger sister.

> > >

> > > Also, generally there must be some indication of

> > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.

> > >

> > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from

> > 9th cusp is more logical.

> > >

> > > Your valued opinion please.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM

> > >

> > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th

> > >

> > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife

> > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is

> > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were

not

> > prohibited in Hindoo Society.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house

for

> > > second marriage?

> > >

> > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings,

which

> > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.

> > >

> > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in

> which

> > the

> > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual

> > planet

> > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV

> > >

> > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with

7th

> > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will

> keep a

> > > keep...'

> > > P146,ReaderIV

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ravi ji,

> > > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in

> dual

> > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > >

> > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is

> this

> > an

> > > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP

> principles,

> > if

> > > the

> > > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in

dual

> > sign,

> > > then

> > > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am

> > looking

> > > at,

> > > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in

> > Scorpio,

> > > in

> > > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage

look

> > > promising

> > > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Ravi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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--- tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

> Dear Kanak,

>

> As you're aware, Vedic/Hindu/Indian day is used in

> both Vedic and

> KP. (KP Reader I page 100 & KP Reader VI page 138

> and BV Raman:

> Hindu Predictive Astrology page 29)

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>..........................................................

 

 

Dear GURUJANS

I think KSK was right in the Basics/practicals but

when i Go thru The Readers And The Way He Had said

about the north indians or hindus astrology, and had

not used the words like, he would have been prayed

like god, and better then the prashars , see his sons

and the way they r commercial to the subject sori

state of affairs is worst all astro logers are trying

to go ahead of KSK but no one is going as per his

thinking .

 

Regards

vinay sayal

>

>

> , Kanak Bosmia

> <kanakbosmia

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tin Win ji,

> >

> > thanks for information.

> >

> > as per my personal experince i use Vedic aspect

> and only for

> node, bcoze node give first result of apsected

> planet, and to fix

> signification of Node we need apsect.otherewise

> generaly i do not

> use aspect.

> >

> > I feel that one have to write good book on KP

> principle with

> each and every rule and lotof exmple of that rule,

> in simple and

> eassy way.bcoze in reader on some point there is

> contradictry, like

> aspect, in first reader sri KSK ji suggest to use

> western aspect but

> he himself us Vedic( may be 2-3 exmple one can

> findout but we have

> to look for most of case not rear case), in first

> reader we found

> some metterial about Navmansa but after that we dont

> found anything

> on navmansa. which daylord we haveto use sunrise to

> sunrise or 00

> Hrs.? i try to find out what Sri Ksk ji use but

> after refering all

> reader i found only one case which was befor sunrise

> and use sunrise

> to sunrise. so to clear all doubt KP Comunity need

> good book.

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> > Dear Kanak,

> >

> > 1. What Mr. Suprakash Ghosh referring is in

> Introduction of KP

> > Reader V, Heading 16: " Ashtama Sani and Honour " ,

> the example chart

> > is given there page xlvii and then the quoted para

> in under the

> sub-

> > heading " western system amended by K.S.K. " in page

> lii, at the end

> > of Item 16: " Ashtama Sani and Honour " .

> >

> > 2. That is on the opposite page of next Heading

> 17: " Sade-sati-

> > satisfadtory gains " , page liii (1983 Edition) as

> mentioned by Sr

> > Raichur.

> >

> > 3. A little bit touching of Western aspects are in

> pages of 139

> and

> > 140 of KP Reader IV (1984/2002 Edt) as mentioned

> by Dr. Rangarajan

> > Krishnamoorthy in Msg#3749.

> >

> > 4. Those examples may not be practically helpful

> in the

> application

> > of KP Rules. Moreover, aspects are a very weak

> sigificator as

> > mentioned in Msg#2595. Naturally, the closer the

> aspect is, the

> > greater is the influence experienced, but even

> aspects not within

> a

> > tight ORB as 3d:20m in 4 step method may produce a

> recognizable

> > effect.

> >

> > 5. Guruji KSK encouraged the study and use of

> Western aspects but

> > Hindu aspects and conjunction are commonly used in

> example charts

> of

> > KP Readers as some are mentioned in Msg#3748 and

> also example

> charts

> > in review on Rahu/Ketu Rules in Msg#8911 as given

> below.

> >

> > 2/ PLANET IN ASPECT RULE

> >

> > 2.1. RAHU/KETU AS PLANET

> > Reader III OE Part 2 pages 85/130/176/206-7/213(NE

> pages 244-

> > 5/294/344/376-7/383-4)

> > Reader IV page 111

> > Reader VI page 187

> >

> > 2.2. RAHU/KETU AS STARLORD

> > Reader VI page 190

> >

> > 2.3. RAHU/KETU AS SUBLORD

> > Reader IV page 108

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia

> <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear sri Raichur ji,

> > > Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is

> 256)it but it

> > was about transit result not for natal or horary

> chart.may be i am

> > wrong but i think there is not exmple with western

> aspect by Sri

> KSK

> > ji him self. there are many articles in reader

> which are not

> writen

> > by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.

> > >

> > > Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this

> question, and i

> > am waiting for his reply.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> > > Dear Kanak

> > > I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is

> Western Method

> > modified by KSK. Opp this page is

> " Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains "

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:

> > > Dear suprakash ji,

> > >

> > > I am not able to find out page lii in reader

> 5th, I have 9th

> > edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number,

> so i can check

> it.

> > >

> > > please try to find out other exmple if you dont

> mind.i am very

> > intrested to know about it.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Kanakji

> > >

> > >

> > > You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK

> ji with useing

> > western aspect.

> > > I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet

> searched the other

> > readers.

> > >

> > > ReaderV

> > > p-lii

> > >

> > > Topic : western system amended by KSK

> > > " Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg)

> semi angular

> > aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx

> aspect…..etc etc "

> > >

> > >

> > > I'll let you know if I can find more such cases

> using aspect.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

>

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Dear Tin Win ji and Suprakash ji, this same article published in KP & Astrology 1996 page no 12. on page no:13 third pera aboput moon ".... conjoined with 4th and 5th lord, ..." now Moon is 5 Deg and 4th and 5th Lord is Sat 16Ged.45 Sec. and as per western aspect they are not in conjuction. another in 11th line "....ven aspecting moon...." Moon is 5 Deg. and Ven is 21Deg 25 sec. is it ok as engla of Western aspect? regards Kanak Bosmia Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Kanakji, I’m out of my home right now and I don’t have the book with me. Please read the paragraph I’ve quoted. I may be wrong but as far as I can remember, it appears that KSK is talking about Dasa Bhukti effect according to the relative position of planets as per western aspect and not

transit. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaThursday, April 12, 2007 2:03 PM Cc: Tin WinRE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:aspects used by KSK Dear sri Raichur ji, Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that. Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i am

waiting for his reply. regards Kanak BosmiaRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Dear Kanak I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is

Western Method modified by KSK. Opp this page is "Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains"Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear suprakash ji, I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it. please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very intrested to know about it. regards Kanak BosmiaSuprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Kanakji You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I’ve found

one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the other readers. ReaderV p-lii Topic : western system amended by KSK “Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx

aspect…..etc etc” I’ll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaWednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM Subject: RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis Dear Suprakash ji, 1) you are right first we do work on what written in readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write about what i given in my

message i know that and i never ask about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your reply on another data. 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time. 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in new 5 data. 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am much

happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, that is 100%, we have check this too. 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my message 10245. i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good educative exercises. with best regards Kanak BosmiaSuprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanakji 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as per your mail , Message #10245 I have just made the rules more difficult by considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or situation) 2) Interesting point…. Can’t tell you right now. 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and Asc , Moon values matches with your data. 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I’m just examining the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for my own satisfaction. 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji’s case, You yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc for 7th cusp checking.( Message

#10245) Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs also. I’ll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you , but afraid I won’t be able to get back before next Monday as I am out of the town till Sunday. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaWednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis Dear suprakash ji, thanks for analysis, 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five rules

you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result. Please check this: (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON MARRIAGE..... (A.

MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce where writen) there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on this rules. 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rules givan in

reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail. Case 1: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case -2 Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case-3: Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case no:4 Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. Case no:5: Not

conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate. 1) 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England 51 30 N 0 10 W England 2) 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA 33 47 N 118 11 W USA 3) 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL 41 51 N 87 39 W USA 4) 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH 40 34 N 84 12 W USA 5) 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile After a long time there is

a aducative discuusion start in group. regards Kanak Bosmia feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanakji,Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I need your help in this regard.First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:The following conditions to be satisfied :Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury/Jupiter.Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of houser 2 or 11 or both.Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.Now let us review the cases under these rules.Case-1i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition

A )ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet in Mercury star. (Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-2i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition A )ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp. (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-3i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces (Condition A )ii)Venus posited in 2nd

house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-4i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini (Condition A )ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in

Jupiter star) (Condition C )All the conditions satisfied.Case-5i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual planet. (Condition A )ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd cusp.iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star of Mercury.All the conditions satisfied.-- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear

Suprakash ji,> > please check bellow data:> ===================================================================> (1)> 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o 5,SAT is in 12 > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 Conj. with JUP l/o 9> Indicate multiple marriage.> > ==================================================================> (2)> (F)

26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple marriage. > =====================================================================> 3)> > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.>

Not indicate multiple marriage.> As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> Indicate multiple marriage.> ===============================================================> (4)> 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in 11.> Indicate multiple marriage.> ==================================================================> 5)> > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA

> 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> Heading / Item Notes> Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > Not indicate multiple marraige.> As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> ================================================================> this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you need more i will send you.> > hope this help> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}

w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear Raichurji> > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > Dear Ghosh> > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to find a 3rd child in the family. > > good luck> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > Dear Raichurji> > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still alive.> > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the second

wife, by law is like a keep.> > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of her husband a younger sister.> > Also, generally there must be some indication of separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > In this logic judging extramarital relation from 9th cusp is more logical.> > Your valued opinion please.> > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> >

This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > second marriage?> > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which the > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual planet > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a

> keep...'> P146,ReaderIV> > Regards> > Suprakash> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Ravi ji,> > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > Dear all,> > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this an> > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles, if > the> > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual sign, > then> > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I

am looking > at,> > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in Scorpio, > in> > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look > promising> > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.> > > > Regards,> > > > Ravi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate> > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.> >> > > > > >

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Dear Kanak,

 

It's closer to the so-called vigitile aspect (applying 16-18) but

nothing useful.

 

As mentioned before such a few touching of Western aspects here and

there is not useful in KP analysis and Guruji KSK practically used

only Hindu aspects.

 

Only one thing will be useful that the closer the aspect is, the

result will bethe stronger.

 

How can good or bad aspects depending on the type aspects can

overrule the signification by occupation and lordship?

 

How can transit results can overrule the dasa results?

 

How will be the difference in timing since the transiting planets

enter to houses concerned in sayana zodiac than nirayana?

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

>

> Dear Tin Win ji and Suprakash ji,

>

> this same article published in KP & Astrology 1996 page no 12.

> on page no:13 third pera aboput moon " .... conjoined with 4th

and 5th lord, ... " now Moon is 5 Deg and 4th and 5th Lord is Sat

16Ged.45 Sec. and as per western aspect they are not in conjuction.

another in 11th line " ....ven aspecting moon.... " Moon is 5 Deg. and

Ven is 21Deg 25 sec. is it ok as engla of Western aspect?

>

> regards

> Kanak Bosmia

>

>

> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

> Kanakji,

>

> I'm out of my home right now and I don't have the book with me.

Please read the paragraph I've quoted. I may be wrong but as far as

I can remember, it appears that KSK is talking about Dasa Bhukti

effect according to the relative position of planets as per western

aspect and not transit.

>

>

> Regards

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:03 PM

>

> Cc: Tin Win

> RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th:aspects used by KSK

>

> Dear sri Raichur ji,

>

> Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it

was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am

wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK

ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen

by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.

>

>

>

> Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i

am waiting for his reply.

>

>

>

> regards

>

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

>

> Dear Kanak

>

> I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method

modified by KSK. Opp this page is " Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains "

>

> Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:

>

> Dear suprakash ji,

>

>

>

> I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th

edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it.

>

>

>

> please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very

intrested to know about it.

>

>

>

> regards

>

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

> Kanakji

>

>

>

> You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing

western aspect.

>

> I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the

other readers.

>

> ReaderV

>

> p-lii

>

> Topic : western system amended by KSK

>

> " Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular

aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc "

>

> I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.

>

> Regards

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM

>

> RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:

My analysis

>

> Dear Suprakash ji,

>

>

> 1) you are right first we do work on what written in

readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data

with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you

mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you

write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask

about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP,

if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data

which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native

married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after

your reply on another data.

>

>

> 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.

>

>

> 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in

new 5 data.

>

>

> 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am

much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont

worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all

rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage,

that is 100%, we have check this too.

>

>

> 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my

work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check

with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention

in my message 10245.

>

>

> i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry

about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good

educative exercises.

>

>

> with best regards

>

>

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Kanakji

>

>

> 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as

per your mail , Message #10245

>

>

> I have just made the rules more difficult by

considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or

situation)

>

>

> 2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.

>

>

> 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and

Asc , Moon values matches with your data.

>

>

> 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining

the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the

need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for

my own satisfaction.

>

>

> 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You

yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc

for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)

>

>

> Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs

also.

>

>

> I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by

you , but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday as I

am out of the town till Sunday.

>

>

> Regards

>

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM

>

> Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:

My analysis

>

>

> Dear suprakash ji,

>

>

>

> thanks for analysis,

>

>

>

> 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which

is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles

about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with

useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc

and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon

position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader

there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five

rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i

have done this first and then try to find out some comman from

all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same

multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check

with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.

>

>

>

> Please check this:

>

>

>

> (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146

> IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE,

SECON MARRIAGE.....

>

>

>

> (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual

Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you

refernce where writen)

> there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add

some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on

this rules.

>

>

>

> 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate

multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The

sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in

this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and

friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy

indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by

you in first mail.

>

>

>

> Case 1:

>

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

>

> Case -2

>

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

>

> Case-3:

>

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

>

> Case no:4

>

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

>

> Case no:5:

>

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

>

> now befor you give me reply please check more five chart

and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.

>

>

>

> 1)

>

>

>

>

> 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England

> 51 30 N 0 10 W England

>

>

>

> 2)

>

>

>

> 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA

> 33 47 N 118 11 W USA

>

>

>

> 3)

>

>

>

> 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL

> 41 51 N 87 39 W USA

>

>

>

> 4)

>

>

>

> 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH

> 40 34 N 84 12 W USA

>

>

>

> 5)

>

>

>

> 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile

> 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile

>

>

>

> After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in

group.

>

>

>

> regards

>

>

>

> Kanak Bosmia

>

>

>

>

>

> feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Kanakji,

>

> Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.

>

> The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.

>

> If requird I can analyse some more charts for further

confirmation.I

> need your help in this regard.

>

> First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by

> Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:

>

> The following conditions to be satisfied :

>

> Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is

> deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is

> Mercury/Jupiter.

>

> Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of

> houser 2 or 11 or both.

>

> Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator

of

> either 7 or 11

>

> All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.

>

> Now let us review the cases under these rules.

>

> Case-1

>

> i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition

> A )

>

> ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no

planet

> in Mercury star. (Condition B )

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc.

> hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also

2nd

> & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> Case-2

>

> i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition

> A )

>

> ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no

planet

> in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have

opposition

> aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of

> Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd

> cusp. (Condition C )

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> Case-3

>

> i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign

Pisces

> (Condition A )

>

> ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord

of

> 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is

> also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star

of

> Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th

cusp

> and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> Case-4

>

> i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign

Gemini

> (Condition A )

>

> ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of

Rahu,who

> is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of

> Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord

of

> 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of

> 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect

with

> Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> Case-5

>

> i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces.

Sublord

> of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual

> planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a

dual

> planet. (Condition A )

>

> ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of

> 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is

> the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd

> cusp.

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp

> sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong

> significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the

star

> of Mercury.

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Suprakash ji,

> >

> > please check bellow data:

> >

> ===================================================================

> > (1)

> > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France

> > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA

> > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four

> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.

> > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o

> 5,SAT is in 12

> > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,

> > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.

> > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6

> Conj. with JUP l/o 9

> > Indicate multiple marriage.

> >

> >

==================================================================

> > (2)

> > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY

> > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.

> > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.

> > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.

> > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple

> marriage.

> >

>

=====================================================================

> > 3)

> >

> > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI

> > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA

> > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.

> > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.

> > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.

> > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.

> > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > ===============================================================

> > (4)

> > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ

> > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine

> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.

> > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.

> > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.

> > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in

> 11.

> > Indicate multiple marriage.

> >

==================================================================

> > 5)

> >

> > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA

> > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine

> >

> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.

> > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 ,

> > Not indicate multiple marraige.

> > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.

> > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.

> > ================================================================

> > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100

> data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if

you

> need more i will send you.

> >

> > hope this help

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url

> (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape

> {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear

> Raichurji

> >

> > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which

> relation is logical to consider between the two wives-

> >

> > If we consider 9th : her younger sister

> > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present

> wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation)

> >

> > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as

> used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy

> myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.

> >

> > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you

> please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM

> >

> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th

> >

> > Dear Ghosh

> >

> > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has

> not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th

> her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare

to

> find a 3rd child in the family.

> >

> > good luck

> >

> >

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raichurji

> >

> > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days,

> one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still

> alive.

> >

> > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the

> second wife, by law is like a keep.

> >

> > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of

> her husband a younger sister.

> >

> > Also, generally there must be some indication of

> separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.

> >

> > In this logic judging extramarital relation from

> 9th cusp is more logical.

> >

> > Your valued opinion please.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM

> >

> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th

> >

> > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife

> is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is

> acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not

> prohibited in Hindoo Society.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for

> > second marriage?

> >

> > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which

> > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.

> >

> > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in

which

> the

> > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual

> planet

> > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV

> >

> > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th

> > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will

keep a

> > keep...'

> > P146,ReaderIV

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ravi ji,

> > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in

dual

> > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is

this

> an

> > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP

principles,

> if

> > the

> > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual

> sign,

> > then

> > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am

> looking

> > at,

> > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in

> Scorpio,

> > in

> > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look

> > promising

> > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ravi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " A person should not be too honest.

> > > Straight trees are cut first

> > > And Honest people are screwed first. "

> > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350

BC

> > 75 BC)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Good Luck

> > Raichur A R

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Dear Tin Win ji, You are right. as we know only vedic aspect to be consider (and as per my strong opinion only use aspect for node),we have to stop this subject here, and in future we do not come in duscussion on same subject. regards Kanak Bosmiatw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak, It's closer to the so-called vigitile aspect (applying 16-18) but nothing useful.As mentioned before such a

few touching of Western aspects here and there is not useful in KP analysis and Guruji KSK practically used only Hindu aspects. Only one thing will be useful that the closer the aspect is, the result will bethe stronger.How can good or bad aspects depending on the type aspects can overrule the signification by occupation and lordship?How can transit results can overrule the dasa results?How will be the difference in timing since the transiting planets enter to houses concerned in sayana zodiac than nirayana?Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji and Suprakash ji,> > this same article published in KP & Astrology 1996 page no 12.> on page no:13 third pera aboput moon ".... conjoined with 4th and 5th lord, ..." now Moon is 5 Deg

and 4th and 5th Lord is Sat 16Ged.45 Sec. and as per western aspect they are not in conjuction. another in 11th line "....ven aspecting moon...." Moon is 5 Deg. and Ven is 21Deg 25 sec. is it ok as engla of Western aspect?> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> Kanakji,> > I'm out of my home right now and I don't have the book with me. Please read the paragraph I've quoted. I may be wrong but as far as I can remember, it appears that KSK is talking about Dasa Bhukti effect according to the relative position of planets as per western aspect and not transit.> > > Regards> > Suprakash> > > > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:03 PM> > Cc: Tin Win> RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:aspects used by KSK> > Dear sri Raichur ji,> > Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.> > > > Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i am waiting for his reply.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > Raichur-a-r

<raichurar wrote:> > Dear Kanak> > I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method modified by KSK. Opp this page is "Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains"> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> > Dear suprakash ji,> > > > I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it. > > > > please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very intrested to know about it.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > Kanakji> > > > You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect.> > I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the

other readers.> > ReaderV> > p-lii> > Topic : western system amended by KSK> > "Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc"> > I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis> > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > 1) you are right first we do

work on what written in readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your reply on another data.> > > 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.> > > 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in new 5 data.> > > 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry about any number of

question on this work, but if you use all rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, that is 100%, we have check this too.> > > 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my message 10245.> > > i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good educative exercises.> > > with best regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > > > > Dear Kanakji> > > 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as per your mail , Message #10245> > > I have just made the rules more

difficult by considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or situation)> > > 2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.> > > 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and Asc , Moon values matches with your data.> > > 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for my own satisfaction.> > > 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)> > > Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs also.> > > I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you , but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday

as I am out of the town till Sunday.> > > Regards> > > Suprakash> > > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis> > > Dear suprakash ji,> > > > thanks for analysis,> > > > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I need only one

exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.> > > > Please check this:> > > > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146> IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON MARRIAGE.....> > > > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce where writen)> there is no other

condition givan in this rule but you have add some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on this rules.> > > > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail. > > > > Case 1:> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > Case -2> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > Case-3:> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > >

> Case no:4> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > Case no:5:> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.> > > > 1)> > > > > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England > 51 30 N 0 10 W England > > > > 2)> > > > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA > > > > 3)> > > > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA > > > > 4)> > > > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA > > > >

5)> > > > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile > > > > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group.> > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > > Dear Kanakji,> > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.> > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.> > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I > need your help in this regard.> > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:> > The following conditions to be satisfied :> > Condition A : The sublord of the

7nd cusp or its starlord is > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is > Mercury/Jupiter.> > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of > houser 2 or 11 or both.> > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of > either 7 or 11> > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.> > Now let us review the cases under these rules.> > Case-1> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet > in Mercury star. (Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )> > All the

conditions satisfied.> > Case-2> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd > cusp. (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-3> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces > (Condition A )> > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )> >

iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-4> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini > (Condition A )> > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )> > All the conditions

satisfied.> > Case-5> > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual > planet. (Condition A )> > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd > cusp.> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star > of Mercury.> > All the conditions satisfied.> > -- In , Kanak Bosmia

<kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > please check bellow data:> > > ===================================================================> > (1)> > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o > 5,SAT is in 12 > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 > Conj. with JUP l/o 9> >

Indicate multiple marriage.> > > > ==================================================================> > (2)> > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple > marriage. > > > =====================================================================> > 3)> > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA

BC/BR in hand AA> > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > ===============================================================> > (4)> > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> > SAT is in 10 l/o 2.

Not indicate multiple mariage.> > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in > 11.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > ==================================================================> > 5)> > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > > Not indicate multiple marraige.> > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> >

================================================================> > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you > need more i will send you.> > > > hope this help> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url> (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear > Raichurji> > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> > If we consider 2nd (as per

Krishnamurtiji) : Present > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > >

> RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > Dear Ghosh> > > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to > find a 3rd child in the family. > > > > good luck> > > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > Dear Raichurji> > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still > alive.> > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the > second wife, by law is like a keep.> > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of > her husband a younger

sister.> > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from > 9th cusp is more logical.> > > > Your valued opinion please.> > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > >

This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not > prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > > second marriage?> > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which > the > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual > planet > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > > > 'Further if the

sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a > > keep...'> > P146,ReaderIV> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ravi ji,> > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this > an> > >

indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles, > if > > the> > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual > sign, > > then> > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am > looking > > at,> > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in > Scorpio, > > in> > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look > > promising> > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Ravi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > >

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Dear Kanak, TIN WIN In 4 step method the Hindu Aspects are made use of, but with an orb of only 3 deg 20 min. Many times, the normal significators seem not to give any positive answer, In such cases the Aspects come in handy to solve the problem. They should not be neglected. tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanak, It's closer to the so-called vigitile aspect (applying 16-18) but nothing useful.As mentioned before such a few touching of Western aspects here and there

is not useful in KP analysis and Guruji KSK practically used only Hindu aspects. Only one thing will be useful that the closer the aspect is, the result will bethe stronger.How can good or bad aspects depending on the type aspects can overrule the signification by occupation and lordship?How can transit results can overrule the dasa results?How will be the difference in timing since the transiting planets enter to houses concerned in sayana zodiac than nirayana?Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji and Suprakash ji,> > this same article published in KP & Astrology 1996 page no 12.> on page no:13 third pera aboput moon ".... conjoined with 4th and 5th lord, ..." now Moon is 5 Deg and 4th and 5th Lord is Sat 16Ged.45 Sec. and

as per western aspect they are not in conjuction. another in 11th line "....ven aspecting moon...." Moon is 5 Deg. and Ven is 21Deg 25 sec. is it ok as engla of Western aspect?> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> Kanakji,> > I'm out of my home right now and I don't have the book with me. Please read the paragraph I've quoted. I may be wrong but as far as I can remember, it appears that KSK is talking about Dasa Bhukti effect according to the relative position of planets as per western aspect and not transit.> > > Regards> > Suprakash> > > > > On Behalf Of Kanak

Bosmia> Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:03 PM> > Cc: Tin Win> RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:aspects used by KSK> > Dear sri Raichur ji,> > Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.> > > > Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i am waiting for his reply.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:> > Dear Kanak> > I found it in the 1992 edition. The

subsject is Western Method modified by KSK. Opp this page is "Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains"> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> > Dear suprakash ji,> > > > I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it. > > > > please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very intrested to know about it.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > Kanakji> > > > You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect.> > I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the other readers.> > ReaderV> > p-lii> > Topic : western system amended by

KSK> > "Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc"> > I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis> > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > 1) you are right first we do work on what written in readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data with considering JUP as

dual planet and do all work again,In you mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your reply on another data.> > > 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.> > > 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in new 5 data.> > > 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, that

is 100%, we have check this too.> > > 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my message 10245.> > > i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good educative exercises.> > > with best regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > > > > Dear Kanakji> > > 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as per your mail , Message #10245> > > I have just made the rules more difficult by considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or situation)> > >

2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.> > > 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and Asc , Moon values matches with your data.> > > 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for my own satisfaction.> > > 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)> > > Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs also.> > > I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you , but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday as I am out of the town till Sunday.> > > Regards> > > Suprakash>

> > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis> > > Dear suprakash ji,> > > > thanks for analysis,> > > > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want

to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.> > > > Please check this:> > > > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146> IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON MARRIAGE.....> > > > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce where writen)> there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on this

rules.> > > > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail. > > > > Case 1:> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > Case -2> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > Case-3:> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > Case no:4> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > >

Case no:5:> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.> > > > 1)> > > > > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England > 51 30 N 0 10 W England > > > > 2)> > > > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA > > > > 3)> > > > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA > > > > 4)> > > > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA > > > > 5)> > > > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile > > >

> After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group.> > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > > Dear Kanakji,> > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.> > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.> > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I > need your help in this regard.> > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:> > The following conditions to be satisfied :> > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is > Mercury/Jupiter.>

> Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of > houser 2 or 11 or both.> > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of > either 7 or 11> > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.> > Now let us review the cases under these rules.> > Case-1> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet > in Mercury star. (Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-2> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition

> A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd > cusp. (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-3> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces > (Condition A )> > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile

aspect with 7th cusp > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-4> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini > (Condition A )> > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-5> > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord > of the 7nd

cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual > planet. (Condition A )> > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd > cusp.> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star > of Mercury.> > All the conditions satisfied.> > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > please check bellow

data:> > > ===================================================================> > (1)> > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o > 5,SAT is in 12 > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 > Conj. with JUP l/o 9> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > >

==================================================================> > (2)> > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple > marriage. > > > =====================================================================> > 3)> > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG

49.52 > > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > ===============================================================> > (4)> > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> > As per Kanak:

VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in > 11.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > ==================================================================> > 5)> > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > > Not indicate multiple marraige.> > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> > ================================================================> > this five data is

for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you > need more i will send you.> > > > hope this help> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url> (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear > Raichurji> > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > > > I have personally no

problem accepting 9th house as > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > Dear Ghosh> > > >

I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to > find a 3rd child in the family. > > > > good luck> > > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > Dear Raichurji> > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still > alive.> > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the > second wife, by law is like a keep.> > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of > her husband a younger sister.> > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a

legal 2nd marriage.> > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from > 9th cusp is more logical.> > > > Your valued opinion please.> > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is >

acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not > prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > > second marriage?> > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which > the > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual > planet > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a

> > keep...'> > P146,ReaderIV> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ravi ji,> > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this > an> > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles, > if > > the> > > 7th cusp sublord is

Me or is associated with a planet in dual > sign, > > then> > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am > looking > > at,> > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in > Scorpio, > > in> > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look > > promising> > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Ravi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate> > > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck> > Raichur A R> > Bombay Tel 2506 2609> > Do not use anant_1608 @.cm Iam closing that account> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your own web address.> > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck> > Raichur A R> > Bombay Tel 2506 2609> > Do not use anant_1608 @.cm Iam closing that account> > >

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The

question is : Should we use Western Aspect at all

or not for deriving significators.

KSK

has advocated it but there is no written evidence.

Many other KP researchers

have found this aspect useful. I don’t think it is not wise to leave a concept

as KSK has not given any written evidence. t is contrary to KP research & advancement

of the theory.

 

We

need to examine few charts which:

 

a) Only western aspect can explain the signification

or.

b) Only Vadic aspect can explain the signification

 

If a single chart is found

for both the cases then both Western & Eastern can be applicable on charts.

 

One thing comes to mind : if we give so much importance on conjunction (particularly

rapt) why not Western Aspects at least the major ones which are more precise than

Vedic.

 

I’d request all members

to furnish charts of a) or b) category for analysis if available.

 

Till then I’ll request

Kanakji not to close the subject as tis is a fundamental issue & need to be sorted out without

any ambiguity.

 

 

Regards

 

Suprakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf

Of Raichur-a-r

Tuesday, April 17, 2007

12:01 PM

 

Re: Re:

Second marriage and sublord of 7th:aspects used by KSK

 

 

Dear Kanak, TIN WIN

 

 

In 4 step method the Hindu Aspects are made use of,

but with an orb of only 3 deg 20 min. Many times, the normal significators seem

not to give any positive answer, In such cases the Aspects come in handy to

solve the problem. They should not be neglected.

 

 

 

 

tw853

<tw853 wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Kanak,

 

It's closer to the so-called vigitile aspect (applying 16-18) but

nothing useful.

 

As mentioned before such a few touching of Western aspects here and

there is not useful in KP analysis and Guruji KSK practically used

only Hindu aspects.

 

Only one thing will be useful that the closer the aspect is, the

result will bethe stronger.

 

How can good or bad aspects depending on the type aspects can

overrule the signification by occupation and lordship?

 

How can transit results can overrule the dasa results?

 

How will be the difference in timing since the transiting planets

enter to houses concerned in sayana zodiac than nirayana?

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

,

Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

>

> Dear Tin Win ji and Suprakash ji,

>

> this same article published in KP & Astrology 1996 page no 12.

> on page no:13 third pera aboput moon " .... conjoined with 4th

and 5th lord, ... " now Moon is 5 Deg and 4th and 5th Lord is Sat

16Ged.45 Sec. and as per western aspect they are not in conjuction.

another in 11th line " ....ven aspecting moon.... " Moon is 5 Deg. and

Ven is 21Deg 25 sec. is it ok as engla of Western aspect?

>

> regards

> Kanak Bosmia

>

>

> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

> Kanakji,

>

> I'm out of my home right now and I don't have the book with me.

Please read the paragraph I've quoted. I may be wrong but as far as

I can remember, it appears that KSK is talking about Dasa Bhukti

effect according to the relative position of planets as per western

aspect and not transit.

>

>

> Regards

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> Thursday,

April 12, 2007 2:03 PM

>

> Cc: Tin Win

> RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th:aspects used by KSK

>

> Dear sri Raichur ji,

>

> Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it

was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am

wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK

ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen

by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.

>

>

>

> Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i

am waiting for his reply.

>

>

>

> regards

>

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

>

> Dear Kanak

>

> I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method

modified by KSK. Opp this page is " Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains "

>

> Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:

>

> Dear suprakash ji,

>

>

>

> I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th

edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it.

>

>

>

> please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very

intrested to know about it.

>

>

>

> regards

>

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

> Kanakji

>

>

>

> You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing

western aspect.

>

> I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the

other readers.

>

> ReaderV

>

> p-lii

>

> Topic : western system amended by KSK

>

> " Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular

aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc "

>

> I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.

>

> Regards

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

 

 

On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> Wednesday, April 11, 2007

5:00 PM

>

> RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:

My analysis

>

> Dear Suprakash ji,

>

>

> 1) you are right first we do work on what written in

readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data

with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you

mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you

write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask

about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP,

if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data

which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native

married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after

your reply on another data.

>

>

> 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.

>

>

> 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in

new 5 data.

>

>

> 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am

much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont

worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all

rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage,

that is 100%, we have check this too.

>

>

> 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my

work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check

with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention

in my message 10245.

>

>

> i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry

about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good

educative exercises.

>

>

> with best regards

>

>

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Kanakji

>

>

> 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as

per your mail , Message #10245

>

>

> I have just made the rules more difficult by

considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or

situation)

>

>

> 2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.

>

>

> 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and

Asc , Moon values matches with your data.

>

>

> 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining

the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the

need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for

my own satisfaction.

>

>

> 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You

yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc

for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)

>

>

> Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs

also.

>

>

> I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by

you , but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday as I

am out of the town till Sunday.

>

>

> Regards

>

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

>

 

 

On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> Wednesday, April 11, 2007

7:51 AM

>

> Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:

My analysis

>

>

> Dear suprakash ji,

>

>

>

> thanks for analysis,

>

>

>

> 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which

is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles

about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with

useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc

and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon

position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader

there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five

rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i

have done this first and then try to find out some comman from

all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same

multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check

with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.

>

>

>

> Please check this:

>

>

>

> (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146

> IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE,

SECON MARRIAGE.....

>

>

>

> (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual

Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you

refernce where writen)

> there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add

some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on

this rules.

>

>

>

> 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate

multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The

sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in

this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and

friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy

indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by

you in first mail.

>

>

>

> Case 1:

>

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

>

> Case -2

>

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

>

> Case-3:

>

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

>

> Case no:4

>

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

>

> Case no:5:

>

>

>

> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

>

>

>

> now befor you give me reply please check more five chart

and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.

>

>

>

> 1)

>

>

>

>

> 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England

> 51 30 N 0 10 W England

>

>

>

> 2)

>

>

>

> 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA

> 33 47 N 118 11 W USA

>

>

>

> 3)

>

>

>

> 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL

> 41 51 N 87 39 W USA

>

>

>

> 4)

>

>

>

> 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH

> 40 34 N 84 12 W USA

>

>

>

> 5)

>

>

>

> 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile

> 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile

>

>

>

> After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in

group.

>

>

>

> regards

>

>

>

> Kanak Bosmia

>

>

>

>

>

> feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Kanakji,

>

> Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.

>

> The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.

>

> If requird I can analyse some more charts for further

confirmation.I

> need your help in this regard.

>

> First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by

> Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:

>

> The following conditions to be satisfied :

>

> Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is

> deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is

> Mercury/Jupiter.

>

> Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of

> houser 2 or 11 or both.

>

> Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator

of

> either 7 or 11

>

> All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.

>

> Now let us review the cases under these rules.

>

> Case-1

>

> i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition

> A )

>

> ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no

planet

> in Mercury star. (Condition B )

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc.

> hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also

2nd

> & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> Case-2

>

> i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition

> A )

>

> ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no

planet

> in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have

opposition

> aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of

> Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd

> cusp. (Condition C )

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> Case-3

>

> i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign

Pisces

> (Condition A )

>

> ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord

of

> 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is

> also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star

of

> Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th

cusp

> and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> Case-4

>

> i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign

Gemini

> (Condition A )

>

> ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of

Rahu,who

> is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of

> Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord

of

> 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of

> 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect

with

> Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> Case-5

>

> i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces.

Sublord

> of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual

> planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a

dual

> planet. (Condition A )

>

> ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of

> 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is

> the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd

> cusp.

>

> iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp

> sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong

> significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the

star

> of Mercury.

>

> All the conditions satisfied.

>

> -- In ,

Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Suprakash ji,

> >

> > please check bellow data:

> >

> ===================================================================

> > (1)

> > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France

> > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA

> > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four

> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.

> > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o

> 5,SAT is in 12

> > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,

> > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.

> > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6

> Conj. with JUP l/o 9

> > Indicate multiple marriage.

> >

> >

==================================================================

> > (2)

> > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY

> > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.

> > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.

> > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.

> > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple

> marriage.

> >

>

=====================================================================

> > 3)

> >

> > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI

> > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA

> > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.

> > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.

> > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.

> > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.

> > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > ===============================================================

> > (4)

> > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ

> > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine

> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.

> > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.

> > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.

> > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in

> 11.

> > Indicate multiple marriage.

> >

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> > 5)

> >

> > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA

> > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12

> > Heading / Item Notes

> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine

> >

> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.

> > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 ,

> > Not indicate multiple marraige.

> > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.

> > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.

> > ================================================================

> > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100

> data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if

you

> need more i will send you.

> >

> > hope this help

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url

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> {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear

> Raichurji

> >

> > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which

> relation is logical to consider between the two wives-

> >

> > If we consider 9th : her younger sister

> > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present

> wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation)

> >

> > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as

> used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy

> myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.

> >

> > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you

> please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> >

 

>

On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM

> >

> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th

> >

> > Dear Ghosh

> >

> > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has

> not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th

> her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare

to

> find a 3rd child in the family.

> >

> > good luck

> >

> >

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raichurji

> >

> > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days,

> one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still

> alive.

> >

> > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the

> second wife, by law is like a keep.

> >

> > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of

> her husband a younger sister.

> >

> > Also, generally there must be some indication of

> separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.

> >

> > In this logic judging extramarital relation from

> 9th cusp is more logical.

> >

> > Your valued opinion please.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

 

>

On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM

> >

> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th

> >

> > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife

> is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is

> acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not

> prohibited in Hindoo Society.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for

> > second marriage?

> >

> > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which

> > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.

> >

> > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in

which

> the

> > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual

> planet

> > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV

> >

> > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th

> > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will

keep a

> > keep...'

> > P146,ReaderIV

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> > ,

Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ravi ji,

> > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in

dual

> > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is

this

> an

> > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP

principles,

> if

> > the

> > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual

> sign,

> > then

> > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am

> looking

> > at,

> > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in

> Scorpio,

> > in

> > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look

> > promising

> > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Ravi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " A person should not be too honest.

> > > Straight trees are cut first

> > > And Honest people are screwed first. "

> > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350

BC

> > 75 BC)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Good Luck

> > Raichur A R

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Dear Suprakash ji, If you add apsected planet in signification you found all nine planet, please try to look, not in one bhava but check all three bhava like for marriage 2,7,11 you found all nine planet.i have check this in many many case. this is the resion i do not give much importnat to aspect. regards Kanak BosmiaSuprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: The question is : Should we use Western Aspect at all or not for deriving significators. KSK has advocated it but there is no written evidence. Many other KP researchers have found this aspect useful. I don’t think it is not wise to leave a concept as KSK has not given any written evidence. t is contrary to KP research & advancement of the theory. We need to examine few charts which: a) Only western aspect can explain the signification or. b) Only Vadic aspect can explain the

signification If a single chart is found for both the cases then both Western & Eastern can be applicable on charts. One thing comes to mind : if we give so much importance on conjunction (particularly rapt) why not Western Aspects at least the major ones which are more precise than Vedic. I’d request all members to furnish charts of a) or b) category for analysis if available. Till then I’ll request Kanakji not to close the subject as tis is a fundamental issue & need to be sorted out without any ambiguity. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Raichur-a-rTuesday,

April 17, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:aspects used by KSK Dear Kanak, TIN WIN In 4 step method the Hindu Aspects are made use of, but with an orb of only 3 deg 20 min. Many times, the normal significators seem not to give any positive answer, In such cases the Aspects come in handy to solve the problem. They should not be neglected. tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Kanak, It's closer to the so-called vigitile aspect (applying 16-18) but nothing useful.As mentioned before such a few touching of Western aspects here and there is not useful in KP analysis and Guruji KSK practically used only Hindu aspects. Only one thing will be useful that the closer the aspect is, the result will bethe stronger.How can good or bad aspects depending on the type aspects can overrule the signification by occupation and lordship?How can transit results can overrule the dasa results?How will be the difference in

timing since the transiting planets enter to houses concerned in sayana zodiac than nirayana?Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin Win ji and Suprakash ji,> > this same article published in KP & Astrology 1996 page no 12.> on page no:13 third pera aboput moon ".... conjoined with 4th and 5th lord, ..." now Moon is 5 Deg and 4th and 5th Lord is Sat 16Ged.45 Sec. and as per western aspect they are not in conjuction. another in 11th line "....ven aspecting moon...." Moon is 5 Deg. and Ven is 21Deg 25 sec. is it ok as engla of Western aspect?> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> Kanakji,> > I'm out of my home right now and I don't have the book with me.

Please read the paragraph I've quoted. I may be wrong but as far as I can remember, it appears that KSK is talking about Dasa Bhukti effect according to the relative position of planets as per western aspect and not transit.> > > Regards> > Suprakash> > > > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:03 PM> > Cc: Tin Win> RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:aspects used by KSK> > Dear sri Raichur ji,> > Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it

but it was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.> > > > Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i am waiting for his reply.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:> > Dear Kanak> > I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method modified by KSK. Opp this page is "Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains"> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:> > Dear suprakash ji,> > > > I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it.

> > > > please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very intrested to know about it.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > Kanakji> > > > You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect.> > I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the other readers.> > ReaderV> > p-lii> > Topic : western system amended by KSK> > "Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc"> > I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.> > Regards> > Suprakash> > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis> > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > 1) you are right first we do work on what written in readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you

many data which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after your reply on another data.> > > 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.> > > 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in new 5 data.> > > 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, that is 100%, we have check this too.> > > 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention in my message 10245.> > > i am

waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good educative exercises.> > > with best regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> > > > > > Dear Kanakji> > > 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as per your mail , Message #10245> > > I have just made the rules more difficult by considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or situation)> > > 2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.> > > 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and Asc , Moon values matches with your data.> > > 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can

question the need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for my own satisfaction.> > > 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)> > > Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs also.> > > I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by you , but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday as I am out of the town till Sunday.> > > Regards> > > Suprakash> > > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> Wednesday, April 11, 2007

7:51 AM> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis> > > Dear suprakash ji,> > > > thanks for analysis,> > > > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage

data you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.> > > > Please check this:> > > > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146> IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON MARRIAGE.....> > > > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce where writen)> there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on this rules.> > > > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that is conected with 11

attachment and friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail. > > > > Case 1:> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > Case -2> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > Case-3:> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > Case no:4> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > Case no:5:> > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.> > > >

1)> > > > > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England > 51 30 N 0 10 W England > > > > 2)> > > > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA > > > > 3)> > > > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA > > > > 4)> > > > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA > > > > 5)> > > > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile > > > > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group.> > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> >

> > Dear Kanakji,> > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.> > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.> > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I > need your help in this regard.> > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:> > The following conditions to be satisfied :> > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is > Mercury/Jupiter.> > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of > houser 2 or 11 or both.> > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of > either 7 or 11> > All the three conditions to be satisfied

simultaneously.> > Now let us review the cases under these rules.> > Case-1> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet > in Mercury star. (Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-2> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp

is Rahu. Rahu in the star of > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd > cusp. (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-3> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces > (Condition A )> > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-4> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini > (Condition A

)> > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-5> > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual > planet. (Condition A )> > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of > 11th cusp being

in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd > cusp.> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star > of Mercury.> > All the conditions satisfied.> > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > please check bellow data:> > > ===================================================================> > (1)> > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON:

14 Sc 38.24> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o > 5,SAT is in 12 > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 > Conj. with JUP l/o 9> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > > ==================================================================> > (2)> > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> >

Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple > marriage. > > > =====================================================================> > 3)> > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.>

> MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > ===============================================================> > (4)> > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in > 11.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > ==================================================================> > 5)> > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > >

34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > > Not indicate multiple marraige.> > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> > ================================================================> > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you > need more i will send you.> > > > hope this help> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > >

> > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url> (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear > Raichurji> > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > > >

Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > Dear Ghosh> > > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to > find a 3rd child in the family. > > > > good luck> > > > > > > >

Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > Dear Raichurji> > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still > alive.> > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the > second wife, by law is like a keep.> > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of > her husband a younger sister.> > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from > 9th cusp is more logical.> > > > Your valued opinion please.> > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > -----Original

Message-----> > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not > prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for

> > second marriage?> > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which > the > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual > planet > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a > > keep...'> > P146,ReaderIV> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ravi ji,>

> > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this > an> > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles, > if > > the> > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual > sign, > > then> > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am > looking > > at,> > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in > Scorpio, > > in> > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11.

Does 2nd marriage look > > promising> > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Ravi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate> > > in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck>

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Nirayan Horoscopes and Western Aspects With Example Horoscope &

Analytical Charts, 1984, By C.R. Bhatt may be helpful.

 

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tw

 

, " Suprakash Ghosh "

<suprakash.ghosh wrote:

>

> The question is : Should we use Western Aspect at all

or not

> for deriving significators.

>

> KSK has advocated it but there is no written evidence.

> Many other KP researchers have found this aspect useful. I don't

think

> it is not wise to leave a concept as KSK has not given any written

> evidence. t is contrary to KP research & advancement of the

theory.

>

> We need to examine few charts which:

>

> a) Only western aspect can explain the signification

> or.

> b) Only Vadic aspect can explain the signification

>

> If a single chart is found for both the cases then both Western &

> Eastern can be applicable on charts.

>

> One thing comes to mind : if we give so much importance on

conjunction

> (particularly rapt) why not Western Aspects at least the major ones

> which are more precise than Vedic.

>

> I'd request all members to furnish charts of a) or b) category for

> analysis if available.

>

> Till then I'll request Kanakji not to close the subject as tis is a

> fundamental issue & need to be sorted out without any ambiguity.

>

>

> Regards

>

> Suprakash

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

On

> Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:01 PM

>

> Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th:aspects

> used by KSK

>

> Dear Kanak, TIN WIN

> In 4 step method the Hindu Aspects are made use of, but with an

orb of

> only 3 deg 20 min. Many times, the normal significators seem not

to give

> any positive answer, In such cases the Aspects come in handy to

solve

> the problem. They should not be neglected.

>

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Kanak,

>

> It's closer to the so-called vigitile aspect (applying 16-18) but

> nothing useful.

>

> As mentioned before such a few touching of Western aspects here

and

> there is not useful in KP analysis and Guruji KSK practically used

> only Hindu aspects.

>

> Only one thing will be useful that the closer the aspect is, the

> result will bethe stronger.

>

> How can good or bad aspects depending on the type aspects can

> overrule the signification by occupation and lordship?

>

> How can transit results can overrule the dasa results?

>

> How will be the difference in timing since the transiting planets

> enter to houses concerned in sayana zodiac than nirayana?

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> @gro <%40>

> ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tin Win ji and Suprakash ji,

> >

> > this same article published in KP & Astrology 1996 page no 12.

> > on page no:13 third pera aboput moon " .... conjoined with 4th

> and 5th lord, ... " now Moon is 5 Deg and 4th and 5th Lord is Sat

> 16Ged.45 Sec. and as per western aspect they are not in

conjuction.

> another in 11th line " ....ven aspecting moon.... " Moon is 5 Deg.

and

> Ven is 21Deg 25 sec. is it ok as engla of Western aspect?

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > Kanakji,

> >

> > I'm out of my home right now and I don't have the book with me.

> Please read the paragraph I've quoted. I may be wrong but as far

as

> I can remember, it appears that KSK is talking about Dasa Bhukti

> effect according to the relative position of planets as per

western

> aspect and not transit.

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > @gro <%40>

> ups.com

> [@gro <%40>

> ups.com] On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:03 PM

> > @gro <%40>

ups.com

> > Cc: Tin Win

> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

> 7th:aspects used by KSK

> >

> > Dear sri Raichur ji,

> >

> > Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it

> was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am

> wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri

KSK

> ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not

writen

> by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.

> >

> >

> >

> > Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i

> am waiting for his reply.

> >

> >

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kanak

> >

> > I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method

> modified by KSK. Opp this page is " Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains "

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear suprakash ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th

> edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check

it.

> >

> >

> >

> > please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very

> intrested to know about it.

> >

> >

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Kanakji

> >

> >

> >

> > You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing

> western aspect.

> >

> > I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the

> other readers.

> >

> > ReaderV

> >

> > p-lii

> >

> > Topic : western system amended by KSK

> >

> > " Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular

> aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect...etc etc "

> >

> > I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> > @gro <%40>

> ups.com

> [@gro <%40>

> ups.com] On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM

> > @gro <%40>

ups.com

> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th:

> My analysis

> >

> > Dear Suprakash ji,

> >

> >

> > 1) you are right first we do work on what written in

> readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data

> with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you

> mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if

you

> write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask

> about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP,

> if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many

data

> which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native

> married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more

after

> your reply on another data.

> >

> >

> > 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.

> >

> >

> > 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in

> new 5 data.

> >

> >

> > 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am

> much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont

> worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use

all

> rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage,

> that is 100%, we have check this too.

> >

> >

> > 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my

> work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check

> with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is

mention

> in my message 10245.

> >

> >

> > i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry

> about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good

> educative exercises.

> >

> >

> > with best regards

> >

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Kanakji

> >

> >

> > 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as

> per your mail , Message #10245

> >

> >

> > I have just made the rules more difficult by

> considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or

> situation)

> >

> >

> > 2) Interesting point.. Can't tell you right now.

> >

> >

> > 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and

> Asc , Moon values matches with your data.

> >

> >

> > 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining

> the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the

> need of it when the job has already been done by you.but it is for

> my own satisfaction.

> >

> >

> > 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You

> yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc

> for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)

> >

> >

> > Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs

> also.

> >

> >

> > I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by

> you , but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday as

I

> am out of the town till Sunday.

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> > @gro <%40>

> ups.com

> [@gro <%40>

> ups.com] On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM

> > @gro <%40>

ups.com

> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th:

> My analysis

> >

> >

> > Dear suprakash ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > thanks for analysis,

> >

> >

> >

> > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which

> is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles

> about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with

> useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc

> and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon

> position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader

> there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five

> rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i

> have done this first and then try to find out some comman from

> all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same

> multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check

> with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.

> >

> >

> >

> > Please check this:

> >

> >

> >

> > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146

> > IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE,

> SECON MARRIAGE.....

> >

> >

> >

> > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual

> Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you

> refernce where writen)

> > there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add

> some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on

> this rules.

> >

> >

> >

> > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate

> multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The

> sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in

> this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and

> friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy

> indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give

by

> you in first mail.

> >

> >

> >

> > Case 1:

> >

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> >

> > Case -2

> >

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> >

> > Case-3:

> >

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> >

> > Case no:4

> >

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> >

> > Case no:5:

> >

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> >

> > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart

> and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.

> >

> >

> >

> > 1)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England

> > 51 30 N 0 10 W England

> >

> >

> >

> > 2)

> >

> >

> >

> > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA

> > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA

> >

> >

> >

> > 3)

> >

> >

> >

> > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL

> > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA

> >

> >

> >

> > 4)

> >

> >

> >

> > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH

> > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA

> >

> >

> >

> > 5)

> >

> >

> >

> > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile

> > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile

> >

> >

> >

> > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in

> group.

> >

> >

> >

> > regards

> >

> >

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Kanakji,

> >

> > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.

> >

> > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.

> >

> > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further

> confirmation.I

> > need your help in this regard.

> >

> > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said

by

> > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:

> >

> > The following conditions to be satisfied :

> >

> > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is

> > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is

> > Mercury/Jupiter.

> >

> > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator

of

> > houser 2 or 11 or both.

> >

> > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator

> of

> > either 7 or 11

> >

> > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.

> >

> > Now let us review the cases under these rules.

> >

> > Case-1

> >

> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet

(Condition

> > A )

> >

> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no

> planet

> > in Mercury star. (Condition B )

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with

Merc.

> > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is

also

> 2nd

> > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > Case-2

> >

> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet

(Condition

> > A )

> >

> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no

> planet

> > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have

> opposition

> > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of

> > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the

2nd

> > cusp. (Condition C )

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > Case-3

> >

> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign

> Pisces

> > (Condition A )

> >

> > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord

> of

> > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus

is

> > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star

> of

> > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th

> cusp

> > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > Case-4

> >

> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign

> Gemini

> > (Condition A )

> >

> > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of

> Rahu,who

> > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of

> > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord

> of

> > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator

of

> > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect

> with

> > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > Case-5

> >

> > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces.

> Sublord

> > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual

> > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a

> dual

> > planet. (Condition A )

> >

> > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator

of

> > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also

is

> > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with

2nd

> > cusp.

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp

> > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong

> > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the

> star

> > of Mercury.

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > -- In @gro <%40>

> ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Suprakash ji,

> > >

> > > please check bellow data:

> > >

> >

===================================================================

> > > (1)

> > > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France

> > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four

> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.

> > > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o

> > 5,SAT is in 12

> > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,

> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.

> > > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6

> > Conj. with JUP l/o 9

> > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > >

> > >

> ==================================================================

> > > (2)

> > > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY

> > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.

> > > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.

> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.

> > > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple

> > marriage.

> > >

> >

>

=====================================================================

> > > 3)

> > >

> > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI

> > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA

> > > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.

> > > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.

> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.

> > > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.

> > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > > ===============================================================

> > > (4)

> > > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ

> > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine

> > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.

> > > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.

> > > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.

> > > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in

> > 11.

> > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > >

> ==================================================================

> > > 5)

> > >

> > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA

> > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine

> > >

> > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.

> > > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 ,

> > > Not indicate multiple marraige.

> > > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.

> > > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.

> > >

================================================================

> > > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly

100

> > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if

> you

> > need more i will send you.

> > >

> > > hope this help

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url

> > (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape

> > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear

> > Raichurji

> > >

> > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which

> > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-

> > >

> > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister

> > > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present

> > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation)

> > >

> > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as

> > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to

satisfy

> > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.

> > >

> > > My request to you as well as Kanakji - will you

> > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own

analysis?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > @gro <%40>

> ups.com

> > [@gro <%40>

> ups.com] On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM

> > > @gro <%40>

> ups.com

> > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th

> > >

> > > Dear Ghosh

> > >

> > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has

> > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the

7th

> > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare

> to

> > find a 3rd child in the family.

> > >

> > > good luck

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raichurji

> > >

> > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days,

> > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still

> > alive.

> > >

> > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the

> > second wife, by law is like a keep.

> > >

> > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of

> > her husband a younger sister.

> > >

> > > Also, generally there must be some indication of

> > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.

> > >

> > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from

> > 9th cusp is more logical.

> > >

> > > Your valued opinion please.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > @gro <%40>

> ups.com

> > [@gro <%40>

> ups.com] On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM

> > > @gro <%40>

> ups.com

> > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th

> > >

> > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife

> > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is

> > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were

not

> > prohibited in Hindoo Society.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house

for

> > > second marriage?

> > >

> > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings,

which

> > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.

> > >

> > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in

> which

> > the

> > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual

> > planet

> > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV

> > >

> > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with

7th

> > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will

> keep a

> > > keep...'

> > > P146,ReaderIV

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > > @gro <%

40>

> ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ravi ji,

> > > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in

> dual

> > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > >

> > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is

> this

> > an

> > > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP

> principles,

> > if

> > > the

> > > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in

dual

> > sign,

> > > then

> > > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am

> > looking

> > > at,

> > > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in

> > Scorpio,

> > > in

> > > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage

look

> > > promising

> > > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Ravi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " A person should not be too honest.

> > > > Straight trees are cut first

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> > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer,

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Dear Sri Raichur,

 

Hindu aspects are okay but not Western aspects without knowing how

to reconcile with KP principles.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

>

> Dear Kanak, TIN WIN

> In 4 step method the Hindu Aspects are made use of, but with an

orb of only 3 deg 20 min. Many times, the normal significators seem

not to give any positive answer, In such cases the Aspects come in

handy to solve the problem. They should not be neglected.

>

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Kanak,

>

> It's closer to the so-called vigitile aspect (applying 16-18) but

> nothing useful.

>

> As mentioned before such a few touching of Western aspects here

and

> there is not useful in KP analysis and Guruji KSK practically used

> only Hindu aspects.

>

> Only one thing will be useful that the closer the aspect is, the

> result will bethe stronger.

>

> How can good or bad aspects depending on the type aspects can

> overrule the signification by occupation and lordship?

>

> How can transit results can overrule the dasa results?

>

> How will be the difference in timing since the transiting planets

> enter to houses concerned in sayana zodiac than nirayana?

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tin Win ji and Suprakash ji,

> >

> > this same article published in KP & Astrology 1996 page no 12.

> > on page no:13 third pera aboput moon " .... conjoined with 4th

> and 5th lord, ... " now Moon is 5 Deg and 4th and 5th Lord is Sat

> 16Ged.45 Sec. and as per western aspect they are not in

conjuction.

> another in 11th line " ....ven aspecting moon.... " Moon is 5 Deg.

and

> Ven is 21Deg 25 sec. is it ok as engla of Western aspect?

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > Kanakji,

> >

> > I'm out of my home right now and I don't have the book with me.

> Please read the paragraph I've quoted. I may be wrong but as far

as

> I can remember, it appears that KSK is talking about Dasa Bhukti

> effect according to the relative position of planets as per

western

> aspect and not transit.

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:03 PM

> >

> > Cc: Tin Win

> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

> 7th:aspects used by KSK

> >

> > Dear sri Raichur ji,

> >

> > Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it

> was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am

> wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri

KSK

> ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not

writen

> by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.

> >

> >

> >

> > Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i

> am waiting for his reply.

> >

> >

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kanak

> >

> > I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method

> modified by KSK. Opp this page is " Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains "

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear suprakash ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th

> edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check

it.

> >

> >

> >

> > please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very

> intrested to know about it.

> >

> >

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Kanakji

> >

> >

> >

> > You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing

> western aspect.

> >

> > I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the

> other readers.

> >

> > ReaderV

> >

> > p-lii

> >

> > Topic : western system amended by KSK

> >

> > " Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular

> aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc "

> >

> > I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM

> >

> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th:

> My analysis

> >

> > Dear Suprakash ji,

> >

> >

> > 1) you are right first we do work on what written in

> readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data

> with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you

> mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if

you

> write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask

> about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP,

> if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many

data

> which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native

> married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more

after

> your reply on another data.

> >

> >

> > 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.

> >

> >

> > 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in

> new 5 data.

> >

> >

> > 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am

> much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont

> worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use

all

> rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage,

> that is 100%, we have check this too.

> >

> >

> > 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my

> work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check

> with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is

mention

> in my message 10245.

> >

> >

> > i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry

> about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good

> educative exercises.

> >

> >

> > with best regards

> >

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Kanakji

> >

> >

> > 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as

> per your mail , Message #10245

> >

> >

> > I have just made the rules more difficult by

> considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or

> situation)

> >

> >

> > 2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.

> >

> >

> > 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and

> Asc , Moon values matches with your data.

> >

> >

> > 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining

> the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the

> need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for

> my own satisfaction.

> >

> >

> > 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You

> yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc

> for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)

> >

> >

> > Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs

> also.

> >

> >

> > I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by

> you , but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday as

I

> am out of the town till Sunday.

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> > Suprakash

> >

> >

> >

> >

> On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM

> >

> > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th:

> My analysis

> >

> >

> > Dear suprakash ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > thanks for analysis,

> >

> >

> >

> > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which

> is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles

> about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with

> useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc

> and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon

> position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader

> there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five

> rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i

> have done this first and then try to find out some comman from

> all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same

> multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check

> with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.

> >

> >

> >

> > Please check this:

> >

> >

> >

> > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146

> > IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE,

> SECON MARRIAGE.....

> >

> >

> >

> > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual

> Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you

> refernce where writen)

> > there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add

> some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on

> this rules.

> >

> >

> >

> > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate

> multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The

> sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in

> this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and

> friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy

> indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give

by

> you in first mail.

> >

> >

> >

> > Case 1:

> >

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> >

> > Case -2

> >

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> >

> > Case-3:

> >

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> >

> > Case no:4

> >

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> >

> > Case no:5:

> >

> >

> >

> > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> >

> >

> >

> > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart

> and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.

> >

> >

> >

> > 1)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England

> > 51 30 N 0 10 W England

> >

> >

> >

> > 2)

> >

> >

> >

> > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA

> > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA

> >

> >

> >

> > 3)

> >

> >

> >

> > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL

> > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA

> >

> >

> >

> > 4)

> >

> >

> >

> > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH

> > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA

> >

> >

> >

> > 5)

> >

> >

> >

> > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile

> > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile

> >

> >

> >

> > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in

> group.

> >

> >

> >

> > regards

> >

> >

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Kanakji,

> >

> > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.

> >

> > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.

> >

> > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further

> confirmation.I

> > need your help in this regard.

> >

> > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said

by

> > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:

> >

> > The following conditions to be satisfied :

> >

> > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is

> > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is

> > Mercury/Jupiter.

> >

> > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator

of

> > houser 2 or 11 or both.

> >

> > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator

> of

> > either 7 or 11

> >

> > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.

> >

> > Now let us review the cases under these rules.

> >

> > Case-1

> >

> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet

(Condition

> > A )

> >

> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no

> planet

> > in Mercury star. (Condition B )

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with

Merc.

> > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is

also

> 2nd

> > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > Case-2

> >

> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet

(Condition

> > A )

> >

> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no

> planet

> > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have

> opposition

> > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of

> > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the

2nd

> > cusp. (Condition C )

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > Case-3

> >

> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign

> Pisces

> > (Condition A )

> >

> > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord

> of

> > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus

is

> > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star

> of

> > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th

> cusp

> > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > Case-4

> >

> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign

> Gemini

> > (Condition A )

> >

> > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of

> Rahu,who

> > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of

> > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord

> of

> > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator

of

> > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect

> with

> > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > Case-5

> >

> > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces.

> Sublord

> > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual

> > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a

> dual

> > planet. (Condition A )

> >

> > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator

of

> > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also

is

> > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with

2nd

> > cusp.

> >

> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp

> > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong

> > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the

> star

> > of Mercury.

> >

> > All the conditions satisfied.

> >

> > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Suprakash ji,

> > >

> > > please check bellow data:

> > >

> >

===================================================================

> > > (1)

> > > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France

> > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four

> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.

> > > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o

> > 5,SAT is in 12

> > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,

> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.

> > > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6

> > Conj. with JUP l/o 9

> > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > >

> > >

> ==================================================================

> > > (2)

> > > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY

> > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.

> > > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.

> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.

> > > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple

> > marriage.

> > >

> >

>

=====================================================================

> > > 3)

> > >

> > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI

> > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA

> > > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.

> > > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.

> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.

> > > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.

> > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > > ===============================================================

> > > (4)

> > > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ

> > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine

> > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.

> > > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.

> > > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.

> > > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in

> > 11.

> > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > >

> ==================================================================

> > > 5)

> > >

> > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA

> > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12

> > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine

> > >

> > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.

> > > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 ,

> > > Not indicate multiple marraige.

> > > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.

> > > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.

> > >

================================================================

> > > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly

100

> > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if

> you

> > need more i will send you.

> > >

> > > hope this help

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url

> > (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape

> > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear

> > Raichurji

> > >

> > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which

> > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-

> > >

> > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister

> > > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present

> > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation)

> > >

> > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as

> > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to

satisfy

> > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.

> > >

> > > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you

> > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own

analysis?

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM

> > >

> > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th

> > >

> > > Dear Ghosh

> > >

> > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has

> > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the

7th

> > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare

> to

> > find a 3rd child in the family.

> > >

> > > good luck

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raichurji

> > >

> > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days,

> > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still

> > alive.

> > >

> > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the

> > second wife, by law is like a keep.

> > >

> > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of

> > her husband a younger sister.

> > >

> > > Also, generally there must be some indication of

> > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.

> > >

> > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from

> > 9th cusp is more logical.

> > >

> > > Your valued opinion please.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM

> > >

> > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

7th

> > >

> > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife

> > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is

> > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were

not

> > prohibited in Hindoo Society.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house

for

> > > second marriage?

> > >

> > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings,

which

> > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.

> > >

> > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in

> which

> > the

> > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual

> > planet

> > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV

> > >

> > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with

7th

> > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will

> keep a

> > > keep...'

> > > P146,ReaderIV

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ravi ji,

> > > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in

> dual

> > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > >

> > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is

> this

> > an

> > > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP

> principles,

> > if

> > > the

> > > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in

dual

> > sign,

> > > then

> > > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am

> > looking

> > > at,

> > > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in

> > Scorpio,

> > > in

> > > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage

look

> > > promising

> > > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Ravi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " A person should not be too honest.

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Dear Raichur ji and Tin Win ji, bellow is table of todays signification table for 5:30 AM at L.G.Hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 37, please check E (vedic aspect) and try to look for any one event for exmple Mariage check 2,7,11 significatore you found all nine planet, not for marriage check with any event. this is clearly advice us to not use aspect for signification , BUT WHEN WE ANALYSIE NODE, AS PER RULE NODE GIVE FIRST RESULT OF CONJ PLANET, SECOND ASPECTED PLANET, SO THIS IS MUST IN NODE BUT NOT IN OTHER PLANET. I dont have any software who do signification table as per 4 stap, other wise i will also attached that too.I dont know what happan with colom E in 4 stap. Regards Kanak Bosmia please select bellow chat in courier font to look properly. QUERY:SUPER EIGHT WROLD CUP WESTINDIES VS ENGLAND 21_4_2007 NAME: KANAK BOSMIA PLACE :L G HOS.-AHD GUJARAT DATE :TUESDAY E: 17 - 4 - 2007 : TIME: 5 H. 30 M. 0 S. DASA BAL. Merc 5 Y. 115 Days ENDS ON 9 8 2012 BHK. Bal. Rahu 0 Y. 130 Days: ANT. Bal. Moon 76 Days: SOOK Bal. Moon 5 Days HOR.NO : 42 : Asc.for RP 345 Deg 54 Min LORDS : Jup,Sat,Jup,Ven Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl SsL SUN. 1 2 44 53 Mar Ket Ven Mer :ASC 3 0 0 0 Mer Mar Mer Mer MOON 12 25 49 48 Jup Mer Rah Moo :2nd 3 24 6 33 Mer Jup Mer Mer MARS 11 14 17 38 Sat Rah Mer Sat :3rd 4 18 59 22 Moo Mer Ket Rah MERC 12 16 23 55 Jup Sat Jup Mar :4th 5 17 33 12 Sun Ven Mar Jup JUP.-R 8 25 43 9 Mar Mer Rah Ven :5th 6 20 59 52 Mer Moo Ven Moo

VEN. 2 11 51 41 Ven Moo Mar Moo :6th 7 26 38 32 Ven Jup Ven Ven SAT.-R 4 24 16 59 Moo Mer Rah Rah :7th 9 0 0 0 Jup Ket Ket Ket RAHU 11 20 11 7 Sat Jup Jup Jup :8th 9 24 6 33 Jup Ven Mer Mer KETU 5 20 11 7 Sun Ven Jup Jup :9th 10 18 59 22 Sat Moo Mer Rah URAN 11 23 5 44 Sat Jup Sat Moo :10th 11 17 33 12 Sat Rah Sun Mar NEPT 10 27 47 22 Sat Mar Jup Rah :11th 12 20 59 52 Jup Mer Ven Sat FOR. 2 23 4

55 Ven Moo Sun Sat :12th 1 26 38 32 Mar Ven Ket Mer PLUT-R 9 5 0 30 Jup Ket Mar Jup CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For retrogression,Deg Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no planets in them are not printed.. *-*-* |

* * * * | | * * * Fo 2 * | | *

* * Ve 2 * | |3rd 4 * 2nd 3 * * 12t 1 * | | Sa 4 * * Asc 3 * * |

| * * | | * * * * Mo 12 Su 1| | *

* * * 11t 12| | * * * * | | * *

* * | | * 4th 5 * * * | * Ke 5 * Me 12 * |

* * * Ur 11 Ra 11 * | | * * * 10t 11 * | | * *

* * | |5th 6 * * * * | | * * * * |

| * * | | * * Pl 9 * * Ma 11 Ne 10| | * 6th 7 * 7th 9 * 8th 9

* 9th 10| | * Ju 8 * * * | | * * * * | |

* * * * | *-*-* ASTROLOGER:Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia:Tel:079-2543 1165: mob:9825131165 QUERIST: KANAK BOSMIA :HOR NO

42 SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord Check B: planets near cusps within 3deg 20m OF CUSP THEY WILL ACT ALSO AS B CORRECT IN THE TABLE, ALSO IN TABLE BELOW HOUSE A B C D E F ---- ASC | | |MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer |

| | | |SU: | 2nd | | |MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer | | | | |SU: | 3rd |MER:

|SAT: |VEN:FOR: |Moo|ME:JU:VE:SU|Ket | | | | |MO: | 4th |SUN:PLU: |KET: | |Sun|MA:RA: |Mar |

| | | | | 5th | | |MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Ven | | | | |SU: | 6th |RAH:URA:

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| | |JU:MA: | ----tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Sri Raichur,Hindu aspects are okay but not Western aspects without knowing how to reconcile with KP principles.Thanks and regards,tw , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:>> Dear Kanak, TIN WIN> In 4 step method the Hindu Aspects are made use of, but with an orb of only 3 deg 20 min. Many times, the normal significators seem not to give any positive answer, In such cases the Aspects come in handy to solve the problem. They should not be neglected.> > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak, > > It's closer to the so-called vigitile aspect (applying 16-18) but > nothing useful.> > As mentioned before such a few touching of Western aspects here and > there is not useful in KP analysis and Guruji KSK practically used > only Hindu aspects. > > Only one thing will be useful that the closer the aspect is, the > result will bethe stronger.> > How can good or bad aspects

depending on the type aspects can > overrule the signification by occupation and lordship?> > How can transit results can overrule the dasa results?> > How will be the difference in timing since the transiting planets > enter to houses concerned in sayana zodiac than nirayana?> > Regards,> > tw > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji and Suprakash ji,> > > > this same article published in KP & Astrology 1996 page no 12.> > on page no:13 third pera aboput moon ".... conjoined with 4th > and 5th lord, ..." now Moon is 5 Deg and 4th and 5th Lord is Sat > 16Ged.45 Sec. and as per western aspect they are not in conjuction. > another in 11th line "....ven aspecting moon...." Moon is 5 Deg.

and > Ven is 21Deg 25 sec. is it ok as engla of Western aspect?> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > Kanakji,> > > > I'm out of my home right now and I don't have the book with me. > Please read the paragraph I've quoted. I may be wrong but as far as > I can remember, it appears that KSK is talking about Dasa Bhukti > effect according to the relative position of planets as per western > aspect and not transit.> > > > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > On

Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> > Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:03 PM> > > > Cc: Tin Win> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of > 7th:aspects used by KSK> > > > Dear sri Raichur ji,> > > > Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it > was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am > wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK > ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen > by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.> > > > > > > > Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i > am waiting for his reply.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak

Bosmia> > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanak> > > > I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method > modified by KSK. Opp this page is "Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains"> > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > > Dear suprakash ji,> > > > > > > > I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th > edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it. > > > > > > > > please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very > intrested to know about it.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > Kanakji> >

> > > > > > You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing > western aspect.> > > > I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the > other readers.> > > > ReaderV> > > > p-lii> > > > Topic : western system amended by KSK> > > > "Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular > aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc"> > > > I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia>

> Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM> > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: > My analysis> > > > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > > > 1) you are right first we do work on what written in > readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data > with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you > mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you > write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask > about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, > if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data > which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native > married second to nine marriage. any way we will

discuss more after > your reply on another data.> > > > > > 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.> > > > > > 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in > new 5 data.> > > > > > 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am > much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont > worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all > rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, > that is 100%, we have check this too.> > > > > > 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my > work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check > with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention > in my message 10245.> > > > > > i am

waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry > about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good > educative exercises.> > > > > > with best regards> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kanakji> > > > > > 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as > per your mail , Message #10245> > > > > > I have just made the rules more difficult by > considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or > situation)> > > > > > 2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.> > > > > > 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and > Asc , Moon values matches with

your data.> > > > > > 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining > the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the > need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for > my own satisfaction.> > > > > > 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You > yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc > for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)> > > > > > Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs > also.> > > > > > I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by > you , but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday as I > am out of the town till Sunday.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Suprakash> > > > >

> > > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM> > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: > My analysis> > > > > > Dear suprakash ji,> > > > > > > > thanks for analysis,> > > > > > > > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which > is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles > about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with > useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc

> and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon > position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader > there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five > rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i > have done this first and then try to find out some comman from > all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same > multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check > with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.> > > > > > > > Please check this:> > > > > > > > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146> > IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, > SECON MARRIAGE.....> > > > > > > > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual > Rasi.not mention no smae page but

if you need i will give you > refernce where writen)> > there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add > some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on > this rules.> > > > > > > > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate > multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The > sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in > this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and > friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy > indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by > you in first mail. > > > > > > > > Case 1:> > > > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > Case -2> >

> > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > Case-3:> > > > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > Case no:4> > > > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > Case no:5:> > > > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart > and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.> > > > > > > > 1)> > > > > > > > > > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England > > 51 30 N 0 10 W England > > > >

> > > > 2)> > > > > > > > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA > > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA > > > > > > > > 3)> > > > > > > > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL > > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA > > > > > > > > 4)> > > > > > > > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH > > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA > > > > > > > > 5)> > > > > > > > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile > > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile > > > > > > > > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in > group.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia> >

> > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Kanakji,> > > > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.> > > > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.> > > > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further > confirmation.I > > need your help in this regard.> > > > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by > > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:> > > > The following conditions to be satisfied :> > > > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is > > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is > > Mercury/Jupiter.> > > > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd

cusp is also a significator of > > houser 2 or 11 or both.> > > > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator > of > > either 7 or 11> > > > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.> > > > Now let us review the cases under these rules.> > > > Case-1> > > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > > A )> > > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no > planet > > in Mercury star. (Condition B )> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. > > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also > 2nd > > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> >

> > Case-2> > > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > > A )> > > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no > planet > > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have > opposition > > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of > > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd > > cusp. (Condition C )> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> > > > Case-3> > > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign > Pisces > > (Condition A )> > > > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord > of > > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars,

11th lord.Venus is > > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star > of > > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th > cusp > > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> > > > Case-4> > > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign > Gemini > > (Condition A )> > > > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of > Rahu,who > > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of > > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord > of > > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with

Mars,strongest significator of > > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect > with > > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> > > > Case-5> > > > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. > Sublord > > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual > > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a > dual > > planet. (Condition A )> > > > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of > > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is > > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd > > cusp.> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th

cusp > > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong > > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the > star > > of Mercury.> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> > > > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > > > please check bellow data:> > > > > ===================================================================> > > (1)> > > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> > > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four>

> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> > > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o > > 5,SAT is in 12 > > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> > > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 > > Conj. with JUP l/o 9> > > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > > > > > ==================================================================> > > (2)> > > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is

RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> > > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> > > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple > > marriage. > > > > > > =====================================================================> > > 3)> > > > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> > > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> > > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.>

> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> > > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> > > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > ===============================================================> > > (4)> > > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> > > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> > > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> > > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in > > 11.> > > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > >

==================================================================> > > 5)> > > > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > > > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> > > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > > > Not indicate multiple marraige.> > > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> > > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> > > ================================================================> > > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 > > data, but first you check it and

give your finding, and then if > you > > need more i will send you.> > > > > > hope this help> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url> > (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape > > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear > > Raichurji> > > > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which > > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > > > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> > > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present > > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > > >

> > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as > > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy > > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > > > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you > > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > > > > >

RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > > > Dear Ghosh> > > > > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has > > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th > > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare > to > > find a 3rd child in the family. > > > > > > good luck> > > > > > > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Raichurji> > > > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, > > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still > > alive.> > > > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the > > second wife, by law is like a

keep.> > > > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of > > her husband a younger sister.> > > > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of > > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > > > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from > > 9th cusp is more logical.> > > > > > Your valued opinion please.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > > Sent:

Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > > > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife > > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is > > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not > > prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > > > second marriage?> > > > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > > >

suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > > > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in > which > > the > > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual > > planet > > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > > > > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will > keep a > > > keep...'> > > P146,ReaderIV> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ravi ji,> > > > Look 9th SL

if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in > dual > > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is > this > > an> > > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP > principles, > > if > > > the> > > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual > > sign, > > > then> > > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am > > looking > > > at,> > > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord

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Dear Kanak,

 

It's true that the overall E-level significators are not so useful

that they are said very weak. Only some glaring ones may be useful

as the last resort especially in post event analysis.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

>

> Dear Raichur ji and Tin Win ji,

>

> bellow is table of todays signification table for 5:30 AM at

L.G.Hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 37, please check E (vedic

aspect) and try to look for any one event for exmple Mariage check

2,7,11 significatore you found all nine planet, not for marriage

check with any event.

>

> this is clearly advice us to not use aspect for signification ,

BUT WHEN WE ANALYSIE NODE, AS PER RULE NODE GIVE FIRST RESULT OF

CONJ PLANET, SECOND ASPECTED PLANET, SO THIS IS MUST IN NODE BUT NOT

IN OTHER PLANET.

> I dont have any software who do signification table as per 4

stap, other wise i will also attached that too.I dont know what

happan with colom E in 4 stap.

>

> Regards

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> please select bellow chat in courier font to look properly.

>

> QUERY:SUPER EIGHT WROLD CUP WESTINDIES VS ENGLAND

21_4_2007

> NAME: KANAK BOSMIA PLACE :L G HOS.-AHD

GUJARAT

> DATE :TUESDAY E: 17 - 4 - 2007 : TIME: 5 H. 30 M. 0

S.

> DASA BAL. Merc 5 Y. 115 Days ENDS ON 9 8 2012

> BHK. Bal. Rahu 0 Y. 130 Days: ANT. Bal. Moon 76 Days:

> SOOK Bal. Moon 5 Days

> HOR.NO : 42 : Asc.for RP 345 Deg 54 Min LORDS :

Jup,Sat,Jup,Ven

> Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se

Sgl Stl Sbl SsL

> SUN. 1 2 44 53 Mar Ket Ven Mer :ASC 3 0 0 0

Mer Mar Mer Mer

> MOON 12 25 49 48 Jup Mer Rah Moo :2nd 3 24 6 33 Mer

Jup Mer Mer

> MARS 11 14 17 38 Sat Rah Mer Sat :3rd 4 18 59 22 Moo

Mer Ket Rah

> MERC 12 16 23 55 Jup Sat Jup Mar :4th 5 17 33 12 Sun

Ven Mar Jup

> JUP.-R 8 25 43 9 Mar Mer Rah Ven :5th 6 20 59 52 Mer

Moo Ven Moo

> VEN. 2 11 51 41 Ven Moo Mar Moo :6th 7 26 38 32 Ven

Jup Ven Ven

> SAT.-R 4 24 16 59 Moo Mer Rah Rah :7th 9 0 0 0 Jup

Ket Ket Ket

> RAHU 11 20 11 7 Sat Jup Jup Jup :8th 9 24 6 33 Jup

Ven Mer Mer

> KETU 5 20 11 7 Sun Ven Jup Jup :9th 10 18 59 22 Sat

Moo Mer Rah

> URAN 11 23 5 44 Sat Jup Sat Moo :10th 11 17 33 12 Sat

Rah Sun Mar

> NEPT 10 27 47 22 Sat Mar Jup Rah :11th 12 20 59 52 Jup

Mer Ven Sat

> FOR. 2 23 4 55 Ven Moo Sun Sat :12th 1 26 38 32 Mar

Ven Ket Mer

> PLUT-R 9 5 0 30 Jup Ket Mar Jup

> CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P.

> Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For

retrogression,Deg

> Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no

planets

> in them are not printed..

> *-*----------------------

------------*

> | * *

* * |

> | * * * Fo

2 * |

> | * * * Ve

2 * |

> |3rd 4 * 2nd 3 * * 12t 1

* |

> | Sa 4 * * Asc 3 *

* |

> | *

* |

> | * * * *

Mo 12 Su 1|

> | * * *

* 11t 12|

> | * *

* * |

> | * *

* * |

> | * 4th 5 *

* * |

> * Ke 5 * Me

12 *

> | * * * Ur 11 Ra

11 * |

> | * * * 10t

11 * |

> | * *

* * |

> |5th 6 * * *

* |

> | * * *

* |

> | *

* |

> | * * Pl 9 * *

Ma 11 Ne 10|

> | * 6th 7 * 7th 9 * 8th 9

* 9th 10|

> | * Ju 8 *

* * |

> | * *

* * |

> | * *

* * |

> *-*------------------------

----------*

>

> ASTROLOGER:Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia:Tel:079-2543 1165:

mob:9825131165

> QUERIST: KANAK BOSMIA :HOR NO 42

> SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES

> SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF

IMPORTANCE

> A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in

House

> C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E=

Planets

> Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub

Lord

> Check B: planets near cusps within 3deg 20m OF CUSP THEY WILL

ACT ALSO AS B

> CORRECT IN THE TABLE, ALSO IN TABLE BELOW

> HOUSE A B C

D E F

> -------------------------

------------

> ASC | |

|MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer

> | | | |

|SU: |

> 2nd | |

|MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer

> | | | |

|SU: |

> 3rd |MER: |SAT: |VEN:FOR:

|Moo|ME:JU:VE:SU|Ket

> | | | |

|MO: |

> 4th |SUN:PLU: |KET: |

|Sun|MA:RA: |Mar

> | | | |

| |

> 5th | |

|MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Ven

> | | | |

|SU: |

> 6th |RAH:URA: |JUP: |KET:

|Ven|JU:MA:RA:MO|Ven

> | | | |

|ME:VE:SA:KE|

> 7th | |PLU: |RAH:URA:

|Jup|MO:ME:VE:SA|Ket

> | | | |

|MA:KE: |

> 8th | | |RAH:URA:

|Jup|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer

> | | | |

|MA:KE: |

> 9th |NEP: |MAR:NEP: |MER:

|Sat|SU:MO:VE:RA|Mer

> | | | |

|KE:SA: |

> 10th |MOO:JUP:SAT:MAR|MER:RAH:URA: |MER:

|Sat|SU:MO:ME:VE|Sun

> | | | |

|SA:MA:KE:RA|

> 11th |VEN:FOR: |SUN:MOO: |RAH:URA:

|Jup|MO:ME:VE:SA|Ven

> | | | |

|MA:KE:JU: |

> 12th |KET: |VEN:FOR: |NEP:

|Mar|VE:RA:KE:SA|Ket

> | | | |

|JU:MA: |

> -------------------------

------------

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Sri Raichur,

>

> Hindu aspects are okay but not Western aspects without knowing how

> to reconcile with KP principles.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kanak, TIN WIN

> > In 4 step method the Hindu Aspects are made use of, but with an

> orb of only 3 deg 20 min. Many times, the normal significators

seem

> not to give any positive answer, In such cases the Aspects come in

> handy to solve the problem. They should not be neglected.

> >

> >

> > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > Dear Kanak,

> >

> > It's closer to the so-called vigitile aspect (applying 16-18)

but

> > nothing useful.

> >

> > As mentioned before such a few touching of Western aspects here

> and

> > there is not useful in KP analysis and Guruji KSK practically

used

> > only Hindu aspects.

> >

> > Only one thing will be useful that the closer the aspect is, the

> > result will bethe stronger.

> >

> > How can good or bad aspects depending on the type aspects can

> > overrule the signification by occupation and lordship?

> >

> > How can transit results can overrule the dasa results?

> >

> > How will be the difference in timing since the transiting

planets

> > enter to houses concerned in sayana zodiac than nirayana?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tin Win ji and Suprakash ji,

> > >

> > > this same article published in KP & Astrology 1996 page no 12.

> > > on page no:13 third pera aboput moon " .... conjoined with 4th

> > and 5th lord, ... " now Moon is 5 Deg and 4th and 5th Lord is Sat

> > 16Ged.45 Sec. and as per western aspect they are not in

> conjuction.

> > another in 11th line " ....ven aspecting moon.... " Moon is 5 Deg.

> and

> > Ven is 21Deg 25 sec. is it ok as engla of Western aspect?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > Kanakji,

> > >

> > > I'm out of my home right now and I don't have the book with

me.

> > Please read the paragraph I've quoted. I may be wrong but as far

> as

> > I can remember, it appears that KSK is talking about Dasa Bhukti

> > effect according to the relative position of planets as per

> western

> > aspect and not transit.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > > Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:03 PM

> > >

> > > Cc: Tin Win

> > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

> > 7th:aspects used by KSK

> > >

> > > Dear sri Raichur ji,

> > >

> > > Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it

> > was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i

am

> > wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri

> KSK

> > ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not

> writen

> > by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i

> > am waiting for his reply.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kanak

> > >

> > > I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method

> > modified by KSK. Opp this page is " Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains "

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear suprakash ji,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th

> > edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check

> it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very

> > intrested to know about it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Kanakji

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing

> > western aspect.

> > >

> > > I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the

> > other readers.

> > >

> > > ReaderV

> > >

> > > p-lii

> > >

> > > Topic : western system amended by KSK

> > >

> > > " Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular

> > aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc

etc "

> > >

> > > I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM

> > >

> > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

> 7th:

> > My analysis

> > >

> > > Dear Suprakash ji,

> > >

> > >

> > > 1) you are right first we do work on what written in

> > readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data

> > with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you

> > mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if

> you

> > write about what i given in my message i know that and i never

ask

> > about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add

JUP,

> > if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many

> data

> > which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even

native

> > married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more

> after

> > your reply on another data.

> > >

> > >

> > > 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.

> > >

> > >

> > > 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in

> > new 5 data.

> > >

> > >

> > > 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am

> > much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont

> > worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use

> all

> > rules you will found each and every chart with multiple

marriage,

> > that is 100%, we have check this too.

> > >

> > >

> > > 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my

> > work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to

check

> > with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is

> mention

> > in my message 10245.

> > >

> > >

> > > i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry

> > about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a

good

> > educative exercises.

> > >

> > >

> > > with best regards

> > >

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Kanakji

> > >

> > >

> > > 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as

> > per your mail , Message #10245

> > >

> > >

> > > I have just made the rules more difficult by

> > considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was

either/or

> > situation)

> > >

> > >

> > > 2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.

> > >

> > >

> > > 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and

> > Asc , Moon values matches with your data.

> > >

> > >

> > > 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining

> > the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the

> > need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is

for

> > my own satisfaction.

> > >

> > >

> > > 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You

> > yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with

Merc

> > for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)

> > >

> > >

> > > Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs

> > also.

> > >

> > >

> > > I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by

> > you , but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday

as

> I

> > am out of the town till Sunday.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM

> > >

> > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

> 7th:

> > My analysis

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear suprakash ji,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thanks for analysis,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which

> > is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles

> > about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with

> > useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give

Asc

> > and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon

> > position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader

> > there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five

> > rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage,

i

> > have done this first and then try to find out some comman from

> > all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found

same

> > multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check

> > with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Please check this:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146

> > > IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE,

> > SECON MARRIAGE.....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual

> > Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you

> > refernce where writen)

> > > there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have

add

> > some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only

on

> > this rules.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate

> > multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The

> > sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or

11in

> > this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment

and

> > friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy

> > indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is

give

> by

> > you in first mail.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Case 1:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Case -2

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Case-3:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Case no:4

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Case no:5:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart

> > and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage

indicate.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 1)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England

> > > 51 30 N 0 10 W England

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 2)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA

> > > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 3)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL

> > > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 4)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH

> > > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 5)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile

> > > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in

> > group.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Kanakji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.

> > >

> > > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.

> > >

> > > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further

> > confirmation.I

> > > need your help in this regard.

> > >

> > > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as

said

> by

> > > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:

> > >

> > > The following conditions to be satisfied :

> > >

> > > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is

> > > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is

> > > Mercury/Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a

significator

> of

> > > houser 2 or 11 or both.

> > >

> > > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a

significator

> > of

> > > either 7 or 11

> > >

> > > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.

> > >

> > > Now let us review the cases under these rules.

> > >

> > > Case-1

> > >

> > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet

> (Condition

> > > A )

> > >

> > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no

> > planet

> > > in Mercury star. (Condition B )

> > >

> > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with

> Merc.

> > > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is

> also

> > 2nd

> > > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )

> > >

> > > All the conditions satisfied.

> > >

> > > Case-2

> > >

> > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet

> (Condition

> > > A )

> > >

> > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no

> > planet

> > > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have

> > opposition

> > > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )

> > >

> > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of

> > > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the

> 2nd

> > > cusp. (Condition C )

> > >

> > > All the conditions satisfied.

> > >

> > > Case-3

> > >

> > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign

> > Pisces

> > > (Condition A )

> > >

> > > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn,

lord

> > of

> > > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th

lord.Venus

> is

> > > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )

> > >

> > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the

star

> > of

> > > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with

7th

> > cusp

> > > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )

> > >

> > > All the conditions satisfied.

> > >

> > > Case-4

> > >

> > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign

> > Gemini

> > > (Condition A )

> > >

> > > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of

> > Rahu,who

> > > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of

> > > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )

> > >

> > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the

starlord

> > of

> > > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator

> of

> > > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square

aspect

> > with

> > > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition

C )

> > >

> > > All the conditions satisfied.

> > >

> > > Case-5

> > >

> > > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces.

> > Sublord

> > > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a

dual

> > > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury,

a

> > dual

> > > planet. (Condition A )

> > >

> > > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator

> of

> > > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter

also

> is

> > > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with

> 2nd

> > > cusp.

> > >

> > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th

cusp

> > > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong

> > > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in

the

> > star

> > > of Mercury.

> > >

> > > All the conditions satisfied.

> > >

> > > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Suprakash ji,

> > > >

> > > > please check bellow data:

> > > >

> > >

> ===================================================================

> > > > (1)

> > > > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France

> > > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24

> > > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four

> > > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.

> > > > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o

> > > 5,SAT is in 12

> > > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,

> > > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of

OWN.

> > > > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6

> > > Conj. with JUP l/o 9

> > > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > > >

> > > >

> >

==================================================================

> > > > (2)

> > > > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY

> > > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01

> > > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.

> > > > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.

> > > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.

> > > > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple

> > > marriage.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

=====================================================================

> > > > 3)

> > > >

> > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI

> > > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA

> > > > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52

> > > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > > > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.

> > > > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.

> > > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.

> > > > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.

> > > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > > >

===============================================================

> > > > (4)

> > > > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ

> > > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17

> > > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine

> > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.

> > > > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.

> > > > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.

> > > > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in

> > > 11.

> > > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > > >

> >

==================================================================

> > > > 5)

> > > >

> > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA

> > > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12

> > > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine

> > > >

> > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.

> > > > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 ,

> > > > Not indicate multiple marraige.

> > > > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of

RAH.

> > > > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.

> > > >

> ================================================================

> > > > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly

> 100

> > > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then

if

> > you

> > > need more i will send you.

> > > >

> > > > hope this help

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > >

> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url

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> > > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear

> > > Raichurji

> > > >

> > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which

> > > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-

> > > >

> > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister

> > > > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present

> > > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation)

> > > >

> > > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as

> > > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to

> satisfy

> > > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.

> > > >

> > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you

> > > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own

> analysis?

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Suprakash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > > > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM

> > > >

> > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

> 7th

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ghosh

> > > >

> > > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship

has

> > > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the

> 7th

> > > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is

rare

> > to

> > > find a 3rd child in the family.

> > > >

> > > > good luck

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Raichurji

> > > >

> > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days,

> > > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is

still

> > > alive.

> > > >

> > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the

> > > second wife, by law is like a keep.

> > > >

> > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of

> > > her husband a younger sister.

> > > >

> > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of

> > > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.

> > > >

> > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from

> > > 9th cusp is more logical.

> > > >

> > > > Your valued opinion please.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Suprakash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > > > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM

> > > >

> > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

> 7th

> > > >

> > > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife

> > > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is

> > > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were

> not

> > > prohibited in Hindoo Society.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house

> for

> > > > second marriage?

> > > >

> > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings,

> which

> > > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.

> > > >

> > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in

> > which

> > > the

> > > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a

dual

> > > planet

> > > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV

> > > >

> > > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with

> 7th

> > > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will

> > keep a

> > > > keep...'

> > > > P146,ReaderIV

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Suprakash

> > > >

> > > > , Kanak Bosmia

<kanakbosmia@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ravi ji,

> > > > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or

in

> > dual

> > > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > > >

> > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear all,

> > > > >

> > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury,

is

> > this

> > > an

> > > > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP

> > principles,

> > > if

> > > > the

> > > > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in

> dual

> > > sign,

> > > > then

> > > > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I

am

> > > looking

> > > > at,

> > > > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in

> > > Scorpio,

> > > > in

> > > > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage

> look

> > > > promising

> > > > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Ravi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > " A person should not be too honest.

> > > > > Straight trees are cut first

> > > > > And Honest people are screwed first. "

> > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer,

> 350

> > BC

> > > > 75 BC)

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Dear Kanak ji,

Nameste, I am pasting below the output of A software, i use to work 4 step theory and

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1. Since originator of 4 step theory is a member of group, It is open for critical examination.

2. For your attention sibject to your interest and availbilty of time to explore the application of concepts in continuation of thread under discussion.

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KANAK BOSMIA (PLACE) 72E37 23N00 [COUNTRY] 21 APRIL, 2007 5:30:00 AM PANCHAMI SHUKLAPAKSHA SATURDAYCustom Ayanamsha Offset Used: Plus 0 Deg. 0 Min. 22 Sec.Original Ayanamsha in Deg Min Sec : 23 deg. 51 ' 44 ''MOST IMPORTANT PLANET-WISE SIGNIFICATORS In Their Descending Order Of Importance along with their SubsPLN : StarLord : StarLord : {In_House} Whose_Lord PLN : {In_House} Whose_LordKET : {2} 3 8 {6} Aspects 12 Sub: RahuVEN : {3} 5 {2} 3 8 Aspects 9 Sub: SaturnSUN : {6} {1} 6 Aspects 8 Sub: RahuMON : {12} 2 9 {3} 5 Aspects 9 Sub: RahuMAR : {12} {12} 2 9 Aspects 6 3 7 Sub: VenusRAH : {12} {12} Aspects 6 Sub: MarsJUP : {1} 4 7 {9} 1 10 Aspects 3 1 5 Sub: RahuSAT : {1} 4 7 {5} 11 12 Aspects 11 7 2 Sub: RahuMER : {1} 4 7 {1} 4 7 Aspects 7 Sub: MarsMAIN PLANET-WISE SIGNIFICATORS.PLN : StarLord : StarLord : {In_House} Whose_Lord PLN : {In_House} Whose_Lord Aspects This_House Sub: Sub of PLNNOTE : Whenever the Planet is in its own Star then its Sub is considered as its working StarLord.AND Similarly Whenever the Planet is in its own Star as well as in its own Sub then, its Sub-Sub is considered as its working StarLord.The house numbers in any row will be in their DECREASING ORDER of their strengths, in bringing out the effects of that respective Planet's Periods, Sub-Periods or Sub-Sub-Periods.KET : StarLord : Venus : {2} 3 8 PLN : {6} Aspects 12 Sub: RahuVEN : StarLord : Moon : {3} 5 PLN : {2} 3 8 Aspects 9 Sub: SaturnSUN : StarLord : Ketu : {6} PLN : {1} 6 Aspects 8 Sub: RahuMON : StarLord : Mars : {12} 2 9 PLN : {3} 5 Aspects 9 Sub: RahuMAR : StarLord : Rahu : {12} PLN : {12} 2 9 Aspects 6 3 7 Sub: VenusRAH : Sub : Mars : {12} 2 9 PLN : {12} Aspects 6 Sub: MarsJUP : StarLord : Mercury : {1} 4 7 PLN : {9} 1 10 Aspects 3 1 5 Sub: RahuSAT : StarLord : Mercury : {1} 4 7 PLN : {5} 11 12 Aspects 11 7 2 Sub: RahuMER : Sub : Mars : {12} 2 9 PLN : {1} 4 7 Aspects 7 Sub: MarsFOUR STEP THEORY DETAILED PLANET-WISE SIGNIFICATORS.Figures shown in the brackets are the strong significators(Balwan Karyeshes) and the rest are weaker significators(Duyyam Karyeshes).First group represents the house in which the planet is deposited and the second group represents the houses owned by the planets.PLANET : KETUItself :-------------- Ketu:- 6 Cusp Yuti: (6) Rashi-Swami Sun 1 6 Mars-Drusht 12 2 9It's N.Swami :-------- Venus:- (2) 3 (8) Cusp Yuti: (3) Mars-Drusht (12) 2 9 Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's Sub :------------ Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 12PLANET : VENUSItself :-------------- Venus:- 2 3 8 Cusp Yuti: (3) Mars-Drusht 12 2 9 Jupiter-Drusht 9 1 10It's N.Swami :-------- Moon:- (3) 5 Cusp Yuti: (3) Mars-Drusht (12) 2 9 Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's Sub :------------ Saturn:- (5) (11) 12 Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Mercury:- (1) (4) (7) Cusp Yuti: (1) Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)Itself aspects :------ 9PLANET : SUNItself :-------------- Sun:- (1) 6 Saturn-Drusht (5) (11) 12It's N.Swami :-------- Ketu:- (6) Cusp Yuti: (6) Rashi-Swami Sun (1) 6 Mars-Drusht (12) 2 9It's Sub :------------ Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 8PLANET : MOONItself :-------------- Moon:- 3 5 Cusp Yuti: (3) Mars-Drusht 12 2 9 Jupiter-Drusht 9 1 10It's N.Swami :-------- Mars:- (12) 2 9 Cusp Yuti: (12) Rahu-Yuti (12) Ketu-Drusht (6) It's Sub :------------ Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 9PLANET : MARSItself :-------------- Mars:- 12 2 9 Cusp Yuti: (12) Rahu-Yuti 12 Ketu-Drusht 6 It's N.Swami :-------- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub :------------ Venus:- 2 3 8 Cusp Yuti: (3) Mars-Drusht 12 2 9 Jupiter-Drusht 9 1 10It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Moon:- (3) 5 Cusp Yuti: (3) Mars-Drusht (12) 2 9 Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)Itself aspects :------ 6 3 7PLANET : RAHUItself :-------------- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's N.Swami :-------- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub :------------ Mars:- 12 2 9 Cusp Yuti: (12) Rahu-Yuti 12 Ketu-Drusht 6 It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 6PLANET : JUPITERItself :-------------- Jupiter:- (9) 1 (10) Cusp Yuti: (9) Moon-Drusht (3) 5 Venus-Drusht (2) 3 (8)It's N.Swami :-------- Mercury:- (1) (4) (7) Cusp Yuti: (1) Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's Sub :------------ Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 3 1 5PLANET : SATURNItself :-------------- Saturn:- (5) (11) 12 Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's N.Swami :-------- Mercury:- (1) (4) (7) Cusp Yuti: (1) Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's Sub :------------ Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 11 7 2PLANET : MERCURYItself :-------------- Mercury:- (1) (4) (7) Cusp Yuti: (1) Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's N.Swami :-------- Mercury:- (1) (4) (7) Cusp Yuti: (1) Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's Sub :------------ Mars:- 12 2 9 Cusp Yuti: (12) Rahu-Yuti 12 Ketu-Drusht 6 It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 7______________________________-

with kind regards.

 

OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding."

 

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Kanak Bosmia

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:51 PM

Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:aspects used by KSK

 

 

 

Dear Raichur ji and Tin Win ji,

 

bellow is table of todays signification table for 5:30 AM at L.G.Hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 37, please check E (vedic aspect) and try to look for any one event for exmple Mariage check 2,7,11 significatore you found all nine planet, not for marriage check with any event.

 

this is clearly advice us to not use aspect for signification , BUT WHEN WE ANALYSIE NODE, AS PER RULE NODE GIVE FIRST RESULT OF CONJ PLANET, SECOND ASPECTED PLANET, SO THIS IS MUST IN NODE BUT NOT IN OTHER PLANET.

I dont have any software who do signification table as per 4 stap, other wise i will also attached that too.I dont know what happan with colom E in 4 stap.

 

Regards

Kanak Bosmia

 

please select bellow chat in courier font to look properly.

 

QUERY:SUPER EIGHT WROLD CUP WESTINDIES VS ENGLAND 21_4_2007 NAME: KANAK BOSMIA PLACE :L G HOS.-AHD GUJARAT DATE :TUESDAY E: 17 - 4 - 2007 : TIME: 5 H. 30 M. 0 S. DASA BAL. Merc 5 Y. 115 Days ENDS ON 9 8 2012 BHK. Bal. Rahu 0 Y. 130 Days: ANT. Bal. Moon 76 Days: SOOK Bal. Moon 5 Days HOR.NO : 42 : Asc.for RP 345 Deg 54 Min LORDS : Jup,Sat,Jup,Ven

Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl SsL

SUN. 1 2 44 53 Mar Ket Ven Mer :ASC 3 0 0 0 Mer Mar Mer Mer MOON 12 25 49 48 Jup Mer Rah Moo :2nd 3 24 6 33 Mer Jup Mer Mer MARS 11 14 17 38 Sat Rah Mer Sat :3rd 4 18 59 22 Moo Mer Ket Rah MERC 12 16 23 55 Jup Sat Jup Mar :4th 5 17 33 12 Sun Ven Mar Jup JUP.-R 8 25 43 9 Mar Mer Rah Ven :5th 6 20 59 52 Mer Moo Ven Moo VEN. 2 11 51 41 Ven Moo Mar Moo :6th 7 26 38 32 Ven Jup Ven Ven SAT.-R 4 24 16 59 Moo Mer Rah Rah :7th 9 0 0 0 Jup Ket Ket Ket RAHU 11 20 11 7 Sat Jup Jup Jup :8th 9 24 6 33 Jup Ven Mer Mer KETU 5 20 11 7 Sun Ven Jup Jup :9th 10 18 59 22 Sat Moo Mer Rah URAN 11 23 5 44 Sat Jup Sat Moo :10th 11 17 33 12 Sat Rah Sun Mar NEPT 10 27 47 22 Sat Mar Jup Rah :11th 12 20 59 52 Jup Mer Ven Sat FOR. 2 23 4 55 Ven Moo Sun Sat :12th 1 26 38 32 Mar Ven Ket Mer PLUT-R 9 5 0 30 Jup Ket Mar Jup CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For retrogression,Deg Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no planets in them are not printed..

*-*-* | * * * * | | * * * Fo 2 * | | * * * Ve 2 * | |3rd 4 * 2nd 3 * * 12t 1 * | | Sa 4 * * Asc 3 * * | | * * | | * * * * Mo 12 Su 1| | * * * * 11t 12| | * * * * | | * * * * | | * 4th 5 * * * | * Ke 5 * Me 12 * | * * * Ur 11 Ra 11 * | | * * * 10t 11 * | | * * * * | |5th 6 * * * * | | * * * * | | * * | | * * Pl 9 * * Ma 11 Ne 10| | * 6th 7 * 7th 9 * 8th 9 * 9th 10| | * Ju 8 * * * | | * * * * | | * * * * | *-*-*

 

ASTROLOGER:Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia:Tel:079-2543 1165: mob:9825131165 QUERIST: KANAK BOSMIA :HOR NO 42 SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES

SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord Check B: planets near cusps within 3deg 20m OF CUSP THEY WILL ACT ALSO AS B CORRECT IN THE TABLE, ALSO IN TABLE BELOW

HOUSE A B C D E F ---- ASC | | |MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer | | | | |SU: | 2nd | | |MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer | | | | |SU: | 3rd |MER: |SAT: |VEN:FOR: |Moo|ME:JU:VE:SU|Ket | | | | |MO: | 4th |SUN:PLU: |KET: | |Sun|MA:RA: |Mar | | | | | | 5th | | |MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Ven | | | | |SU: | 6th |RAH:URA: |JUP: |KET: |Ven|JU:MA:RA:MO|Ven | | | | |ME:VE:SA:KE| 7th | |PLU: |RAH:URA: |Jup|MO:ME:VE:SA|Ket | | | | |MA:KE: | 8th | | |RAH:URA: |Jup|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer | | | | |MA:KE: | 9th |NEP: |MAR:NEP: |MER: |Sat|SU:MO:VE:RA|Mer | | | | |KE:SA: | 10th |MOO:JUP:SAT:MAR|MER:RAH:URA: |MER: |Sat|SU:MO:ME:VE|Sun | | | | |SA:MA:KE:RA| 11th |VEN:FOR: |SUN:MOO: |RAH:URA: |Jup|MO:ME:VE:SA|Ven | | | | |MA:KE:JU: | 12th |KET: |VEN:FOR: |NEP: |Mar|VE:RA:KE:SA|Ket | | | | |JU:MA: | ----tw853 <tw853 > wrote:

 

 

Dear Sri Raichur,Hindu aspects are okay but not Western aspects without knowing how to reconcile with KP principles.Thanks and regards,tw , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:>> Dear Kanak, TIN WIN> In 4 step method the Hindu Aspects are made use of, but with an orb of only 3 deg 20 min. Many times, the normal significators seem not to give any positive answer, In such cases the Aspects come in handy to solve the problem. They should not be neglected.> > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak, > > It's closer to the so-called vigitile aspect (applying 16-18) but > nothing useful.> > As mentioned before such a few touching of Western aspects here and > there is not useful in KP analysis and Guruji KSK practically used > only Hindu aspects. > > Only one thing will be useful that the closer the aspect is, the > result will bethe stronger.> > How can good or bad aspects depending on the type aspects can > overrule the signification by occupation and lordship?> > How can transit results can overrule the dasa results?> > How will be the difference in timing since the transiting planets > enter to houses concerned in sayana zodiac than nirayana?> > Regards,> > tw > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji and Suprakash ji,> > > > this same article published in KP & Astrology 1996 page no 12.> > on page no:13 third pera aboput moon ".... conjoined with 4th > and 5th lord, ..." now Moon is 5 Deg and 4th and 5th Lord is Sat > 16Ged.45 Sec. and as per western aspect they are not in conjuction. > another in 11th line "....ven aspecting moon...." Moon is 5 Deg. and > Ven is 21Deg 25 sec. is it ok as engla of Western aspect?> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > Kanakji,> > > > I'm out of my home right now and I don't have the book with me. > Please read the paragraph I've quoted. I may be wrong but as far as > I can remember, it appears that KSK is talking about Dasa Bhukti > effect according to the relative position of planets as per western > aspect and not transit.> > > > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> > Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:03 PM> > > > Cc: Tin Win> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of > 7th:aspects used by KSK> > > > Dear sri Raichur ji,> > > > Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it > was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am > wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK > ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen > by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.> > > > > > > > Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i > am waiting for his reply.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanak> > > > I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method > modified by KSK. Opp this page is "Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains"> > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > > Dear suprakash ji,> > > > > > > > I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th > edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it. > > > > > > > > please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very > intrested to know about it.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > Kanakji> > > > > > > > You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing > western aspect.> > > > I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the > other readers.> > > > ReaderV> > > > p-lii> > > > Topic : western system amended by KSK> > > > "Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular > aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc"> > > > I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM> > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: > My analysis> > > > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > > > 1) you are right first we do work on what written in > readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data > with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you > mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you > write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask > about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, > if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data > which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native > married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more after > your reply on another data.> > > > > > 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.> > > > > > 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in > new 5 data.> > > > > > 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am > much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont > worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all > rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, > that is 100%, we have check this too.> > > > > > 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my > work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check > with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention > in my message 10245.> > > > > > i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry > about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good > educative exercises.> > > > > > with best regards> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kanakji> > > > > > 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as > per your mail , Message #10245> > > > > > I have just made the rules more difficult by > considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or > situation)> > > > > > 2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.> > > > > > 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and > Asc , Moon values matches with your data.> > > > > > 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining > the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the > need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for > my own satisfaction.> > > > > > 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You > yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc > for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)> > > > > > Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs > also.> > > > > > I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by > you , but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday as I > am out of the town till Sunday.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM> > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: > My analysis> > > > > > Dear suprakash ji,> > > > > > > > thanks for analysis,> > > > > > > > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which > is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles > about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with > useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc > and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon > position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader > there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five > rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i > have done this first and then try to find out some comman from > all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same > multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check > with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.> > > > > > > > Please check this:> > > > > > > > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146> > IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, > SECON MARRIAGE.....> > > > > > > > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual > Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you > refernce where writen)> > there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add > some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on > this rules.> > > > > > > > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate > multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The > sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in > this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and > friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy > indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by > you in first mail. > > > > > > > > Case 1:> > > > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > Case -2> > > > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > Case-3:> > > > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > Case no:4> > > > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > Case no:5:> > > > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart > and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.> > > > > > > > 1)> > > > > > > > > > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England > > 51 30 N 0 10 W England > > > > > > > > 2)> > > > > > > > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA > > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA > > > > > > > > 3)> > > > > > > > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL > > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA > > > > > > > > 4)> > > > > > > > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH > > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA > > > > > > > > 5)> > > > > > > > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile > > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile > > > > > > > > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in > group.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Kanakji,> > > > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.> > > > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.> > > > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further > confirmation.I > > need your help in this regard.> > > > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by > > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:> > > > The following conditions to be satisfied :> > > > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is > > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is > > Mercury/Jupiter.> > > > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of > > houser 2 or 11 or both.> > > > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator > of > > either 7 or 11> > > > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.> > > > Now let us review the cases under these rules.> > > > Case-1> > > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > > A )> > > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no > planet > > in Mercury star. (Condition B )> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. > > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also > 2nd > > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> > > > Case-2> > > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > > A )> > > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no > planet > > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have > opposition > > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of > > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd > > cusp. (Condition C )> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> > > > Case-3> > > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign > Pisces > > (Condition A )> > > > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord > of > > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is > > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star > of > > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th > cusp > > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> > > > Case-4> > > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign > Gemini > > (Condition A )> > > > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of > Rahu,who > > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of > > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord > of > > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of > > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect > with > > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> > > > Case-5> > > > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. > Sublord > > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual > > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a > dual > > planet. (Condition A )> > > > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of > > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is > > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd > > cusp.> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp > > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong > > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the > star > > of Mercury.> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> > > > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > > > please check bellow data:> > > > > ===================================================================> > > (1)> > > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> > > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> > > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o > > 5,SAT is in 12 > > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> > > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 > > Conj. with JUP l/o 9> > > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > > > > > ==================================================================> > > (2)> > > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> > > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> > > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple > > marriage. > > > > > > =====================================================================> > > 3)> > > > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> > > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> > > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> > > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> > > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > ===============================================================> > > (4)> > > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> > > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> > > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> > > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in > > 11.> > > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > > ==================================================================> > > 5)> > > > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > > > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> > > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > > > Not indicate multiple marraige.> > > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> > > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> > > ================================================================> > > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 > > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if > you > > need more i will send you.> > > > > > hope this help> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url> > (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape > > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear > > Raichurji> > > > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which > > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > > > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> > > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present > > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > > > > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as > > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy > > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > > > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you > > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > > > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > > > Dear Ghosh> > > > > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has > > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th > > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare > to > > find a 3rd child in the family. > > > > > > good luck> > > > > > > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Raichurji> > > > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, > > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still > > alive.> > > > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the > > second wife, by law is like a keep.> > > > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of > > her husband a younger sister.> > > > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of > > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > > > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from > > 9th cusp is more logical.> > > > > > Your valued opinion please.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > > > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife > > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is > > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not > > prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > > > second marriage?> > > > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > > > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in > which > > the > > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual > > planet > > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > > > > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will > keep a > > > keep...'> > > P146,ReaderIV> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ravi ji,> > > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in > dual > > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is > this > > an> > > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP > principles, > > if > > > the> > > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual > > sign, > > > then> > > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am > > looking > > > at,> > > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in > > Scorpio, > > > in> > > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look > > > promising> > > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Ravi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 > BC > > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Food fight? 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Dear srivastava ji, thanks much regards Kanak Bosmiaswami <swami_rcs wrote: II Om Gurave Namah IIHari OM Dear Kanak ji, Nameste, I am pasting below the output of A software, i use to work 4 step theory and usual identification of

Significators, with two purposes, 1. Since originator of 4 step theory is a member of group, It is open for critical examination. 2. For your attention sibject to your interest and availbilty of time to explore the application of concepts in continuation of thread under discussion. ____________________________ KANAK BOSMIA (PLACE) 72E37 23N00 [COUNTRY] 21 APRIL, 2007 5:30:00 AM PANCHAMI SHUKLAPAKSHA SATURDAYCustom Ayanamsha Offset Used: Plus 0 Deg. 0 Min. 22 Sec.Original Ayanamsha in Deg Min Sec : 23 deg. 51 ' 44 ''MOST IMPORTANT PLANET-WISE SIGNIFICATORS In Their Descending Order Of Importance along with their SubsPLN : StarLord : StarLord : {In_House} Whose_Lord PLN

: {In_House} Whose_LordKET : {2} 3 8 {6} Aspects 12 Sub: RahuVEN : {3} 5 {2} 3 8 Aspects 9 Sub: SaturnSUN : {6} {1} 6 Aspects 8 Sub: RahuMON : {12} 2 9 {3} 5 Aspects 9 Sub: RahuMAR : {12} {12} 2 9 Aspects 6 3 7 Sub: VenusRAH : {12} {12} Aspects 6 Sub: MarsJUP : {1} 4 7 {9} 1 10 Aspects 3 1 5 Sub: RahuSAT : {1} 4 7 {5} 11 12 Aspects 11 7 2 Sub: RahuMER : {1} 4 7 {1} 4 7 Aspects 7 Sub: MarsMAIN PLANET-WISE SIGNIFICATORS.PLN : StarLord : StarLord : {In_House} Whose_Lord PLN : {In_House} Whose_Lord Aspects This_House Sub: Sub of PLNNOTE : Whenever the Planet is in its own Star then its Sub is considered as its working StarLord.AND Similarly Whenever the Planet is in its own Star as well as in its own Sub then, its Sub-Sub is considered as its working StarLord.The house numbers in any row will be in their DECREASING ORDER of their strengths, in bringing out the effects of that respective Planet's Periods,

Sub-Periods or Sub-Sub-Periods.KET : StarLord : Venus : {2} 3 8 PLN : {6} Aspects 12 Sub: RahuVEN : StarLord : Moon : {3} 5 PLN : {2} 3 8 Aspects 9 Sub: SaturnSUN : StarLord : Ketu : {6} PLN : {1} 6 Aspects 8 Sub: RahuMON : StarLord : Mars : {12} 2 9 PLN : {3} 5 Aspects 9 Sub: RahuMAR : StarLord : Rahu : {12} PLN : {12} 2 9 Aspects 6 3 7 Sub: VenusRAH : Sub : Mars : {12} 2 9 PLN : {12} Aspects 6 Sub: MarsJUP : StarLord : Mercury : {1} 4 7 PLN : {9} 1 10 Aspects 3 1 5 Sub: RahuSAT : StarLord : Mercury : {1} 4 7 PLN : {5} 11 12 Aspects 11 7 2 Sub: RahuMER : Sub : Mars : {12} 2 9 PLN : {1} 4 7 Aspects 7 Sub: MarsFOUR STEP THEORY DETAILED PLANET-WISE SIGNIFICATORS.Figures shown in the brackets are the strong significators(Balwan Karyeshes) and the rest are weaker significators(Duyyam Karyeshes).First group represents the house in which the planet is deposited and the second group represents the houses

owned by the planets.PLANET : KETUItself :-------------- Ketu:- 6 Cusp Yuti: (6) Rashi-Swami Sun 1 6 Mars-Drusht 12 2 9It's N.Swami :-------- Venus:- (2) 3 (8) Cusp Yuti: (3) Mars-Drusht (12) 2 9 Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's Sub :------------ Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 12PLANET : VENUSItself :-------------- Venus:- 2 3 8 Cusp Yuti: (3) Mars-Drusht 12 2 9 Jupiter-Drusht 9 1 10It's N.Swami :-------- Moon:- (3) 5 Cusp Yuti: (3) Mars-Drusht (12) 2 9 Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's Sub :------------ Saturn:- (5) (11) 12 Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Mercury:- (1) (4) (7) Cusp Yuti: (1) Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)Itself aspects :------ 9PLANET : SUNItself :-------------- Sun:- (1) 6 Saturn-Drusht (5)

(11) 12It's N.Swami :-------- Ketu:- (6) Cusp Yuti: (6) Rashi-Swami Sun (1) 6 Mars-Drusht (12) 2 9It's Sub :------------ Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 8PLANET : MOONItself :-------------- Moon:- 3 5 Cusp Yuti: (3) Mars-Drusht 12 2 9 Jupiter-Drusht 9 1 10It's N.Swami :-------- Mars:- (12) 2 9 Cusp Yuti: (12) Rahu-Yuti (12) Ketu-Drusht (6) It's Sub :------------ Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 9PLANET : MARSItself :-------------- Mars:- 12 2 9 Cusp Yuti: (12) Rahu-Yuti 12 Ketu-Drusht 6 It's N.Swami :-------- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11)

12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub :------------ Venus:- 2 3 8 Cusp Yuti: (3) Mars-Drusht 12 2 9 Jupiter-Drusht 9 1 10It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Moon:- (3) 5 Cusp Yuti: (3) Mars-Drusht (12) 2 9 Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)Itself aspects :------ 6 3 7PLANET : RAHUItself :-------------- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's N.Swami :-------- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub :------------ Mars:- 12 2 9 Cusp Yuti: (12) Rahu-Yuti 12 Ketu-Drusht 6 It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 6PLANET : JUPITERItself :-------------- Jupiter:- (9) 1 (10) Cusp Yuti: (9) Moon-Drusht (3) 5 Venus-Drusht (2) 3 (8)It's N.Swami :-------- Mercury:- (1) (4) (7) Cusp Yuti: (1) Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's Sub :------------ Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti:

(12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 3 1 5PLANET : SATURNItself :-------------- Saturn:- (5) (11) 12 Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's N.Swami :-------- Mercury:- (1) (4) (7) Cusp Yuti: (1) Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's Sub :------------ Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12) Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 11 7 2PLANET : MERCURYItself :-------------- Mercury:- (1) (4) (7) Cusp Yuti: (1) Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's N.Swami :-------- Mercury:- (1) (4) (7) Cusp Yuti: (1) Jupiter-Drusht (9) 1 (10)It's Sub :------------ Mars:- 12 2 9 Cusp Yuti: (12) Rahu-Yuti 12 Ketu-Drusht 6 It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Rahu:- (12) Cusp Yuti: (12)

Rashi-Swami Saturn (5) (11) 12 Mars-Yuti (12) 2 9Itself aspects :------ 7______________________________- with kind regards. OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Kanak Bosmia

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:51 PM Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th:aspects used by KSK Dear Raichur ji and Tin Win ji, bellow is table of todays signification table for 5:30 AM at L.G.Hospital-Ahmedabad 23 N 00, 72 E 37, please check E (vedic aspect) and try to look for any one event for exmple Mariage check 2,7,11 significatore you found all nine planet, not for marriage check with any event. this is clearly advice us to not use aspect for signification , BUT WHEN WE ANALYSIE NODE, AS PER RULE NODE GIVE FIRST RESULT OF CONJ PLANET, SECOND ASPECTED PLANET, SO THIS

IS MUST IN NODE BUT NOT IN OTHER PLANET. I dont have any software who do signification table as per 4 stap, other wise i will also attached that too.I dont know what happan with colom E in 4 stap. Regards Kanak Bosmia please select bellow chat in courier font to look properly. QUERY:SUPER EIGHT WROLD CUP WESTINDIES VS ENGLAND 21_4_2007 NAME: KANAK BOSMIA PLACE :L G HOS.-AHD GUJARAT DATE :TUESDAY E: 17 - 4 - 2007 : TIME: 5 H. 30 M. 0 S.

DASA BAL. Merc 5 Y. 115 Days ENDS ON 9 8 2012 BHK. Bal. Rahu 0 Y. 130 Days: ANT. Bal. Moon 76 Days: SOOK Bal. Moon 5 Days HOR.NO : 42 : Asc.for RP 345 Deg 54 Min LORDS : Jup,Sat,Jup,Ven Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl SsL SUN. 1 2 44 53 Mar Ket Ven Mer :ASC 3 0 0 0 Mer Mar Mer Mer MOON 12 25 49 48 Jup Mer Rah Moo :2nd 3 24 6 33

Mer Jup Mer Mer MARS 11 14 17 38 Sat Rah Mer Sat :3rd 4 18 59 22 Moo Mer Ket Rah MERC 12 16 23 55 Jup Sat Jup Mar :4th 5 17 33 12 Sun Ven Mar Jup JUP.-R 8 25 43 9 Mar Mer Rah Ven :5th 6 20 59 52 Mer Moo Ven Moo VEN. 2 11 51 41 Ven Moo Mar Moo :6th 7 26 38 32 Ven Jup Ven Ven SAT.-R 4 24 16 59 Moo Mer Rah Rah :7th 9 0 0 0 Jup Ket Ket Ket RAHU 11 20 11 7 Sat Jup Jup Jup :8th 9 24 6 33 Jup Ven Mer Mer

KETU 5 20 11 7 Sun Ven Jup Jup :9th 10 18 59 22 Sat Moo Mer Rah URAN 11 23 5 44 Sat Jup Sat Moo :10th 11 17 33 12 Sat Rah Sun Mar NEPT 10 27 47 22 Sat Mar Jup Rah :11th 12 20 59 52 Jup Mer Ven Sat FOR. 2 23 4 55 Ven Moo Sun Sat :12th 1 26 38 32 Mar Ven Ket Mer PLUT-R 9 5 0 30 Jup Ket Mar Jup CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign

only. For retrogression,Deg Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no planets in them are not printed.. *-*-* | * * * * | |

* * * Fo 2 * | | * * * Ve 2 * | |3rd 4 * 2nd 3 * * 12t 1

* | | Sa 4 * * Asc 3 * * | | * * | | *

* * * Mo 12 Su 1| | * * * * 11t 12| | * * *

* | | * * * * | | * 4th 5 * * * | * Ke

5 * Me 12 * | * * * Ur 11 Ra 11 * | | * * * 10t 11 *

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9 * * Ma 11 Ne 10| | * 6th 7 * 7th 9 * 8th 9 * 9th 10| | * Ju 8 * * * | | *

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mob:9825131165 QUERIST: KANAK BOSMIA :HOR NO 42 SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord Check B: planets near

cusps within 3deg 20m OF CUSP THEY WILL ACT ALSO AS B CORRECT IN THE TABLE, ALSO IN TABLE BELOW HOUSE A B C D E F ---- ASC | |

|MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer | | | | |SU: | 2nd | | |MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer | |

| | |SU: | 3rd |MER: |SAT: |VEN:FOR: |Moo|ME:JU:VE:SU|Ket | | | | |MO: | 4th |SUN:PLU: |KET: |

|Sun|MA:RA: |Mar | | | | | | 5th | | |MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Ven | |

| | |SU: | 6th |RAH:URA: |JUP: |KET: |Ven|JU:MA:RA:MO|Ven | | | | |ME:VE:SA:KE| 7th | |PLU: |RAH:URA:

|Jup|MO:ME:VE:SA|Ket | | | | |MA:KE: | 8th | | |RAH:URA: |Jup|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer | | |

| |MA:KE: | 9th |NEP: |MAR:NEP: |MER: |Sat|SU:MO:VE:RA|Mer | | | | |KE:SA: | 10th |MOO:JUP:SAT:MAR|MER:RAH:URA: |MER: |Sat|SU:MO:ME:VE|Sun

| | | | |SA:MA:KE:RA| 11th |VEN:FOR: |SUN:MOO: |RAH:URA: |Jup|MO:ME:VE:SA|Ven | | | | |MA:KE:JU: | 12th |KET: |VEN:FOR:

|NEP: |Mar|VE:RA:KE:SA|Ket | | | | |JU:MA: | ----tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear Sri Raichur,Hindu aspects are okay but not Western aspects without knowing how to reconcile with KP principles.Thanks and regards,tw , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:>> Dear Kanak, TIN WIN> In 4 step method the Hindu Aspects are made use of, but with an orb of only 3 deg 20 min. Many times, the normal significators seem not to give any positive answer, In such cases the Aspects come in handy to solve the problem. They should not be neglected.> > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear Kanak, > > It's closer to the so-called vigitile aspect (applying 16-18) but > nothing useful.> > As mentioned before such a few touching of Western aspects here and > there is not useful in KP analysis and Guruji KSK practically used > only Hindu aspects. > > Only one thing will be useful that the closer the aspect is, the > result will bethe stronger.> > How can good or bad aspects

depending on the type aspects can > overrule the signification by occupation and lordship?> > How can transit results can overrule the dasa results?> > How will be the difference in timing since the transiting planets > enter to houses concerned in sayana zodiac than nirayana?> > Regards,> > tw > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Tin Win ji and Suprakash ji,> > > > this same article published in KP & Astrology 1996 page no 12.> > on page no:13 third pera aboput moon ".... conjoined with 4th > and 5th lord, ..." now Moon is 5 Deg and 4th and 5th Lord is Sat > 16Ged.45 Sec. and as per western aspect they are not in conjuction. > another in 11th line "....ven aspecting moon...." Moon is 5 Deg.

and > Ven is 21Deg 25 sec. is it ok as engla of Western aspect?> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > Kanakji,> > > > I'm out of my home right now and I don't have the book with me. > Please read the paragraph I've quoted. I may be wrong but as far as > I can remember, it appears that KSK is talking about Dasa Bhukti > effect according to the relative position of planets as per western > aspect and not transit.> > > > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > On

Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> > Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:03 PM> > > > Cc: Tin Win> > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of > 7th:aspects used by KSK> > > > Dear sri Raichur ji,> > > > Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it > was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am > wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri KSK > ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not writen > by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.> > > > > > > > Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i > am waiting for his reply.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak

Bosmia> > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanak> > > > I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method > modified by KSK. Opp this page is "Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains"> > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:> > > > Dear suprakash ji,> > > > > > > > I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th > edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check it. > > > > > > > > please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very > intrested to know about it.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > Kanakji> >

> > > > > > You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing > western aspect.> > > > I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the > other readers.> > > > ReaderV> > > > p-lii> > > > Topic : western system amended by KSK> > > > "Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular > aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc"> > > > I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia>

> Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM> > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: > My analysis> > > > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > > > 1) you are right first we do work on what written in > readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data > with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you > mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if you > write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask > about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP, > if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many data > which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native > married second to nine marriage. any way we will

discuss more after > your reply on another data.> > > > > > 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.> > > > > > 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in > new 5 data.> > > > > > 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am > much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont > worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use all > rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage, > that is 100%, we have check this too.> > > > > > 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my > work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check > with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is mention > in my message 10245.> > > > > > i am

waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry > about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good > educative exercises.> > > > > > with best regards> > > > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kanakji> > > > > > 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as > per your mail , Message #10245> > > > > > I have just made the rules more difficult by > considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or > situation)> > > > > > 2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.> > > > > > 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and > Asc , Moon values matches with

your data.> > > > > > 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining > the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the > need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for > my own satisfaction.> > > > > > 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You > yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc > for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)> > > > > > Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs > also.> > > > > > I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by > you , but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday as I > am out of the town till Sunday.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Suprakash> > > > >

> > > > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia> > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM> > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: > My analysis> > > > > > Dear suprakash ji,> > > > > > > > thanks for analysis,> > > > > > > > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which > is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles > about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with > useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc

> and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon > position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader > there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five > rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i > have done this first and then try to find out some comman from > all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same > multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check > with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.> > > > > > > > Please check this:> > > > > > > > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146> > IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, > SECON MARRIAGE.....> > > > > > > > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual > Rasi.not mention no smae page but

if you need i will give you > refernce where writen)> > there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add > some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on > this rules.> > > > > > > > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate > multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The > sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in > this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and > friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy > indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by > you in first mail. > > > > > > > > Case 1:> > > > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > Case -2> >

> > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > Case-3:> > > > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > Case no:4> > > > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > Case no:5:> > > > > > > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > > > > > > > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart > and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.> > > > > > > > 1)> > > > > > > > > > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England > > 51 30 N 0 10 W England > > > >

> > > > 2)> > > > > > > > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA > > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA > > > > > > > > 3)> > > > > > > > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL > > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA > > > > > > > > 4)> > > > > > > > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH > > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA > > > > > > > > 5)> > > > > > > > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile > > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile > > > > > > > > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in > group.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia> >

> > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Kanakji,> > > > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.> > > > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.> > > > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further > confirmation.I > > need your help in this regard.> > > > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by > > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:> > > > The following conditions to be satisfied :> > > > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is > > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is > > Mercury/Jupiter.> > > > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd

cusp is also a significator of > > houser 2 or 11 or both.> > > > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator > of > > either 7 or 11> > > > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.> > > > Now let us review the cases under these rules.> > > > Case-1> > > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > > A )> > > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no > planet > > in Mercury star. (Condition B )> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. > > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also > 2nd > > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> >

> > Case-2> > > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > > A )> > > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no > planet > > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have > opposition > > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of > > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd > > cusp. (Condition C )> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> > > > Case-3> > > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign > Pisces > > (Condition A )> > > > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord > of > > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars,

11th lord.Venus is > > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star > of > > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th > cusp > > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> > > > Case-4> > > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign > Gemini > > (Condition A )> > > > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of > Rahu,who > > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of > > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord > of > > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with

Mars,strongest significator of > > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect > with > > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> > > > Case-5> > > > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. > Sublord > > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual > > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a > dual > > planet. (Condition A )> > > > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of > > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is > > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd > > cusp.> > > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th

cusp > > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong > > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the > star > > of Mercury.> > > > All the conditions satisfied.> > > > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > > > please check bellow data:> > > > > ===================================================================> > > (1)> > > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> > > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four>

> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> > > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o > > 5,SAT is in 12 > > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> > > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 > > Conj. with JUP l/o 9> > > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > > > > > ==================================================================> > > (2)> > > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is

RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> > > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> > > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple > > marriage. > > > > > > =====================================================================> > > 3)> > > > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> > > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> > > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> > > Not indicate multiple marriage.>

> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> > > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> > > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > ===============================================================> > > (4)> > > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> > > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> > > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> > > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in > > 11.> > > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > >

==================================================================> > > 5)> > > > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> > > Heading / Item Notes> > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > > > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> > > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > > > Not indicate multiple marraige.> > > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> > > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> > > ================================================================> > > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 > > data, but first you check it and

give your finding, and then if > you > > need more i will send you.> > > > > > hope this help> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url> > (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape > > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear > > Raichurji> > > > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which > > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > > > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> > > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present > > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > > >

> > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as > > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy > > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > > > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you > > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > > > > >

RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > > > Dear Ghosh> > > > > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has > > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th > > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare > to > > find a 3rd child in the family. > > > > > > good luck> > > > > > > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Raichurji> > > > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, > > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still > > alive.> > > > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the > > second wife, by law is like a

keep.> > > > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of > > her husband a younger sister.> > > > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of > > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > > > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from > > 9th cusp is more logical.> > > > > > Your valued opinion please.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > > Sent:

Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > > > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife > > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is > > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not > > prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > > > second marriage?> > > > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > > >

suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > > > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in > which > > the > > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual > > planet > > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > > > > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will > keep a > > > keep...'> > > P146,ReaderIV> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ravi ji,> > > > Look 9th SL

if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in > dual > > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > > > > > regards> > > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is > this > > an> > > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP > principles, > > if > > > the> > > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual > > sign, > > > then> > > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am > > looking > > > at,> > > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord

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dear kanak,

sorry to rake up the issue of vedic aspects in kp.

in my life time Ibought 4 cars.The dasas were

jup-mars-sat,sat-mer-sat,and sat-mars-sat periods.Mars is in 6th

house,l/o 12,1,5 .It signifies 9th house by aspect alone.Therefore,

its not wise to ignore vedic aspects.

>

> this is clearly advice us to not use aspect for signification ,

BUT WHEN WE ANALYSIE NODE, AS PER RULE NODE GIVE FIRST RESULT OF CONJ

PLANET, SECOND ASPECTED PLANET, SO THIS IS MUST IN NODE BUT NOT IN

OTHER PLANET.

> I dont have any software who do signification table as per 4 stap,

other wise i will also attached that too.I dont know what happan with

colom E in 4 stap.

>

> Regards

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> please select bellow chat in courier font to look properly.

>

> QUERY:SUPER EIGHT WROLD CUP WESTINDIES VS ENGLAND 21_4_2007

> NAME: KANAK BOSMIA PLACE :L G HOS.-AHD GUJARAT

 

> DATE :TUESDAY E: 17 - 4 - 2007 : TIME: 5 H. 30 M. 0 S.

> DASA BAL. Merc 5 Y. 115 Days ENDS ON 9 8 2012

> BHK. Bal. Rahu 0 Y. 130 Days: ANT. Bal. Moon 76 Days:

> SOOK Bal. Moon 5 Days

> HOR.NO : 42 : Asc.for RP 345 Deg 54 Min LORDS :

Jup,Sat,Jup,Ven

> Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl

Stl Sbl SsL

> SUN. 1 2 44 53 Mar Ket Ven Mer :ASC 3 0 0 0 Mer

Mar Mer Mer

> MOON 12 25 49 48 Jup Mer Rah Moo :2nd 3 24 6 33 Mer

Jup Mer Mer

> MARS 11 14 17 38 Sat Rah Mer Sat :3rd 4 18 59 22 Moo

Mer Ket Rah

> MERC 12 16 23 55 Jup Sat Jup Mar :4th 5 17 33 12 Sun

Ven Mar Jup

> JUP.-R 8 25 43 9 Mar Mer Rah Ven :5th 6 20 59 52 Mer

Moo Ven Moo

> VEN. 2 11 51 41 Ven Moo Mar Moo :6th 7 26 38 32 Ven

Jup Ven Ven

> SAT.-R 4 24 16 59 Moo Mer Rah Rah :7th 9 0 0 0 Jup

Ket Ket Ket

> RAHU 11 20 11 7 Sat Jup Jup Jup :8th 9 24 6 33 Jup

Ven Mer Mer

> KETU 5 20 11 7 Sun Ven Jup Jup :9th 10 18 59 22 Sat

Moo Mer Rah

> URAN 11 23 5 44 Sat Jup Sat Moo :10th 11 17 33 12 Sat

Rah Sun Mar

> NEPT 10 27 47 22 Sat Mar Jup Rah :11th 12 20 59 52 Jup

Mer Ven Sat

> FOR. 2 23 4 55 Ven Moo Sun Sat :12th 1 26 38 32 Mar

Ven Ket Mer

> PLUT-R 9 5 0 30 Jup Ket Mar Jup

> CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P.

> Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For

retrogression,Deg

> Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no planets

> in them are not printed..

>

*-*-*

> | * * *

* |

> | * * * Fo 2

* |

> | * * * Ve 2

* |

> |3rd 4 * 2nd 3 * * 12t 1 *

|

> | Sa 4 * * Asc 3 * *

|

> | * *

|

> | * * * * Mo

12 Su 1|

> | * * * *

11t 12|

> | * * *

* |

> | * * *

* |

> | * 4th 5 * *

* |

> * Ke 5 * Me 12

*

> | * * * Ur 11 Ra 11

* |

> | * * * 10t 11

* |

> | * * *

* |

> |5th 6 * * * *

|

> | * * * *

|

> | * *

|

> | * * Pl 9 * * Ma

11 Ne 10|

> | * 6th 7 * 7th 9 * 8th 9 *

9th 10|

> | * Ju 8 * *

* |

> | * * *

* |

> | * * *

* |

>

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>

> ASTROLOGER:Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia:Tel:079-2543 1165:

mob:9825131165

> QUERIST: KANAK BOSMIA :HOR NO 42

> SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES

> SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF

IMPORTANCE

> A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House

> C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets

> Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord

> Check B: planets near cusps within 3deg 20m OF CUSP THEY WILL

ACT ALSO AS B

> CORRECT IN THE TABLE, ALSO IN TABLE BELOW

> HOUSE A B C D

E F

>

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> ASC | |

|MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer

> | | | | |SU:

|

> 2nd | |

|MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer

> | | | | |SU:

|

> 3rd |MER: |SAT: |VEN:FOR:

|Moo|ME:JU:VE:SU|Ket

> | | | | |MO:

|

> 4th |SUN:PLU: |KET: |

|Sun|MA:RA: |Mar

> | | | | |

|

> 5th | |

|MOO:JUP:SAT|Mer|MO:ME:VE:SA|Ven

> | | | | |SU:

|

> 6th |RAH:URA: |JUP: |KET:

|Ven|JU:MA:RA:MO|Ven

> | | | |

|ME:VE:SA:KE|

> 7th | |PLU: |RAH:URA:

|Jup|MO:ME:VE:SA|Ket

> | | | |

|MA:KE: |

> 8th | | |RAH:URA:

|Jup|MO:ME:VE:SA|Mer

> | | | |

|MA:KE: |

> 9th |NEP: |MAR:NEP: |MER:

|Sat|SU:MO:VE:RA|Mer

> | | | |

|KE:SA: |

> 10th |MOO:JUP:SAT:MAR|MER:RAH:URA: |MER:

|Sat|SU:MO:ME:VE|Sun

> | | | |

|SA:MA:KE:RA|

> 11th |VEN:FOR: |SUN:MOO: |RAH:URA:

|Jup|MO:ME:VE:SA|Ven

> | | | |

|MA:KE:JU: |

> 12th |KET: |VEN:FOR: |NEP:

|Mar|VE:RA:KE:SA|Ket

> | | | |

|JU:MA: |

>

----

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Sri Raichur,

>

> Hindu aspects are okay but not Western aspects without knowing how

> to reconcile with KP principles.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kanak, TIN WIN

> > In 4 step method the Hindu Aspects are made use of, but with an

> orb of only 3 deg 20 min. Many times, the normal significators seem

> not to give any positive answer, In such cases the Aspects come in

> handy to solve the problem. They should not be neglected.

> >

> >

> > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > Dear Kanak,

> >

> > It's closer to the so-called vigitile aspect (applying 16-18) but

> > nothing useful.

> >

> > As mentioned before such a few touching of Western aspects here

> and

> > there is not useful in KP analysis and Guruji KSK practically used

> > only Hindu aspects.

> >

> > Only one thing will be useful that the closer the aspect is, the

> > result will bethe stronger.

> >

> > How can good or bad aspects depending on the type aspects can

> > overrule the signification by occupation and lordship?

> >

> > How can transit results can overrule the dasa results?

> >

> > How will be the difference in timing since the transiting planets

> > enter to houses concerned in sayana zodiac than nirayana?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tin Win ji and Suprakash ji,

> > >

> > > this same article published in KP & Astrology 1996 page no 12.

> > > on page no:13 third pera aboput moon " .... conjoined with 4th

> > and 5th lord, ... " now Moon is 5 Deg and 4th and 5th Lord is Sat

> > 16Ged.45 Sec. and as per western aspect they are not in

> conjuction.

> > another in 11th line " ....ven aspecting moon.... " Moon is 5 Deg.

> and

> > Ven is 21Deg 25 sec. is it ok as engla of Western aspect?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > Kanakji,

> > >

> > > I'm out of my home right now and I don't have the book with me.

> > Please read the paragraph I've quoted. I may be wrong but as far

> as

> > I can remember, it appears that KSK is talking about Dasa Bhukti

> > effect according to the relative position of planets as per

> western

> > aspect and not transit.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > > Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:03 PM

> > >

> > > Cc: Tin Win

> > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

> > 7th:aspects used by KSK

> > >

> > > Dear sri Raichur ji,

> > >

> > > Yes in my next mail i mention about ( page no is 256)it but it

> > was about transit result not for natal or horary chart.may be i am

> > wrong but i think there is not exmple with western aspect by Sri

> KSK

> > ji him self. there are many articles in reader which are not

> writen

> > by sri KSK ji so we dont consider that.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Tin Win ji will give us perfect answer of this question, and i

> > am waiting for his reply.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kanak

> > >

> > > I found it in the 1992 edition. The subsject is Western Method

> > modified by KSK. Opp this page is " Sade-Sati-Satisfactory Gains "

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear suprakash ji,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I am not able to find out page lii in reader 5th, I have 9th

> > edotion of 2004. please mention agin page number, so i can check

> it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > please try to find out other exmple if you dont mind.i am very

> > intrested to know about it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Kanakji

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You were asking for one exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing

> > western aspect.

> > >

> > > I've found one in Reader V and I have not yet searched the

> > other readers.

> > >

> > > ReaderV

> > >

> > > p-lii

> > >

> > > Topic : western system amended by KSK

> > >

> > > " Rahu is in 12 to Venus and it forms (45Deg) semi angular

> > aspect . Venus Moon and Rahu are forming quincunx aspect…..etc etc "

> > >

> > > I'll let you know if I can find more such cases using aspect.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:00 PM

> > >

> > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

> 7th:

> > My analysis

> > >

> > > Dear Suprakash ji,

> > >

> > >

> > > 1) you are right first we do work on what written in

> > readers, then we need for add modification and re check all data

> > with considering JUP as dual planet and do all work again,In you

> > mail you have mention that rules given by KSK ji so i ask you if

> you

> > write about what i given in my message i know that and i never ask

> > about it.this is the second work on multimarriage when we add JUP,

> > if i know that you are work on this rules i will give you many

> data

> > which are not indicate multimarriage as per this rules even native

> > married second to nine marriage. any way we will discuss more

> after

> > your reply on another data.

> > >

> > >

> > > 2) OK i will Wait for you reply when you have time.

> > >

> > >

> > > 3) OK that's good, but please mention Asc and Moon value in

> > new 5 data.

> > >

> > >

> > > 4) I am not feel that you contradict on my work but i am

> > much happy some one look at my work and try to check it.and dont

> > worry about any number of question on this work, but if you use

> all

> > rules you will found each and every chart with multiple marriage,

> > that is 100%, we have check this too.

> > >

> > >

> > > 5) in message 10245 my meaning is ( I also mention in my

> > work) that no one rules individually not work so we have to check

> > with at list three rules and most affective rules i found is

> mention

> > in my message 10245.

> > >

> > >

> > > i am waiting fro your reply on new data, and dont worry

> > about time, reply when you have time.I considering this as a good

> > educative exercises.

> > >

> > >

> > > with best regards

> > >

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Kanakji

> > >

> > >

> > > 1)The rules I have mentioned is not from books, they are as

> > per your mail , Message #10245

> > >

> > >

> > > I have just made the rules more difficult by

> > considering simultaneous occurance. (as per you, it was either/or

> > situation)

> > >

> > >

> > > 2) Interesting point…. Can't tell you right now.

> > >

> > >

> > > 3) All the charts have been done in KP astro and

> > Asc , Moon values matches with your data.

> > >

> > >

> > > 4) I am not contradicting your findings. .I'm just examining

> > the validity of the rules laid down by KSK. You can question the

> > need of it when the job has already been done by you…but it is for

> > my own satisfaction.

> > >

> > >

> > > 5) With reference to your reply in Sujataji's case, You

> > yourself has admitted the importance of taking Jup along with Merc

> > for 7th cusp checking.( Message #10245)

> > >

> > >

> > > Jupitar, is the owner of Sagg and Pieces, two dual signs

> > also.

> > >

> > >

> > > I'll definitely try to analyse the next 5 cases given by

> > you , but afraid I won't be able to get back before next Monday as

> I

> > am out of the town till Sunday.

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > > Suprakash

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia

> > > Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:51 AM

> > >

> > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

> 7th:

> > My analysis

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear suprakash ji,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thanks for analysis,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which

> > is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles

> > about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with

> > useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc

> > and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon

> > position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader

> > there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five

> > rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i

> > have done this first and then try to find out some comman from

> > all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same

> > multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check

> > with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Please check this:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146

> > > IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE,

> > SECON MARRIAGE.....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual

> > Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you

> > refernce where writen)

> > > there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add

> > some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on

> > this rules.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate

> > multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The

> > sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in

> > this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and

> > friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy

> > indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give

> by

> > you in first mail.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Case 1:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Case -2

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Case-3:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Case no:4

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Case no:5:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart

> > and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 1)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England

> > > 51 30 N 0 10 W England

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 2)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA

> > > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 3)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL

> > > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 4)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH

> > > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 5)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile

> > > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in

> > group.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Kanakji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.

> > >

> > > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.

> > >

> > > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further

> > confirmation.I

> > > need your help in this regard.

> > >

> > > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said

> by

> > > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:

> > >

> > > The following conditions to be satisfied :

> > >

> > > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is

> > > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is

> > > Mercury/Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator

> of

> > > houser 2 or 11 or both.

> > >

> > > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator

> > of

> > > either 7 or 11

> > >

> > > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.

> > >

> > > Now let us review the cases under these rules.

> > >

> > > Case-1

> > >

> > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet

> (Condition

> > > A )

> > >

> > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no

> > planet

> > > in Mercury star. (Condition B )

> > >

> > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with

> Merc.

> > > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is

> also

> > 2nd

> > > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )

> > >

> > > All the conditions satisfied.

> > >

> > > Case-2

> > >

> > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet

> (Condition

> > > A )

> > >

> > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no

> > planet

> > > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have

> > opposition

> > > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )

> > >

> > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of

> > > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the

> 2nd

> > > cusp. (Condition C )

> > >

> > > All the conditions satisfied.

> > >

> > > Case-3

> > >

> > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign

> > Pisces

> > > (Condition A )

> > >

> > > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord

> > of

> > > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus

> is

> > > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )

> > >

> > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star

> > of

> > > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th

> > cusp

> > > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )

> > >

> > > All the conditions satisfied.

> > >

> > > Case-4

> > >

> > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign

> > Gemini

> > > (Condition A )

> > >

> > > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of

> > Rahu,who

> > > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of

> > > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )

> > >

> > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord

> > of

> > > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator

> of

> > > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect

> > with

> > > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )

> > >

> > > All the conditions satisfied.

> > >

> > > Case-5

> > >

> > > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces.

> > Sublord

> > > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual

> > > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a

> > dual

> > > planet. (Condition A )

> > >

> > > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator

> of

> > > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also

> is

> > > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with

> 2nd

> > > cusp.

> > >

> > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp

> > > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong

> > > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the

> > star

> > > of Mercury.

> > >

> > > All the conditions satisfied.

> > >

> > > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Suprakash ji,

> > > >

> > > > please check bellow data:

> > > >

> > >

> ===================================================================

> > > > (1)

> > > > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France

> > > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24

> > > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four

> > > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.

> > > > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o

> > > 5,SAT is in 12

> > > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,

> > > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.

> > > > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6

> > > Conj. with JUP l/o 9

> > > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > > >

> > > >

> > ==================================================================

> > > > (2)

> > > > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY

> > > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01

> > > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.

> > > > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.

> > > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.

> > > > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple

> > > marriage.

> > > >

> > >

> >

> =====================================================================

> > > > 3)

> > > >

> > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI

> > > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA

> > > > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52

> > > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five

> > > > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.

> > > > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.

> > > > Not indicate multiple marriage.

> > > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.

> > > > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.

> > > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > > > ===============================================================

> > > > (4)

> > > > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ

> > > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17

> > > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine

> > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.

> > > > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.

> > > > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.

> > > > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in

> > > 11.

> > > > Indicate multiple marriage.

> > > >

> > ==================================================================

> > > > 5)

> > > >

> > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA

> > > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA

> > > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12

> > > > Heading / Item Notes

> > > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine

> > > >

> > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.

> > > > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 ,

> > > > Not indicate multiple marraige.

> > > > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.

> > > > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.

> > > >

> ================================================================

> > > > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly

> 100

> > > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if

> > you

> > > need more i will send you.

> > > >

> > > > hope this help

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > >

> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear

> > > Raichurji

> > > >

> > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which

> > > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-

> > > >

> > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister

> > > > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present

> > > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation)

> > > >

> > > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as

> > > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to

> satisfy

> > > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.

> > > >

> > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji – will you

> > > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own

> analysis?

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Suprakash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > > > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM

> > > >

> > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

> 7th

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ghosh

> > > >

> > > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has

> > > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the

> 7th

> > > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare

> > to

> > > find a 3rd child in the family.

> > > >

> > > > good luck

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Raichurji

> > > >

> > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days,

> > > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still

> > > alive.

> > > >

> > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the

> > > second wife, by law is like a keep.

> > > >

> > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of

> > > her husband a younger sister.

> > > >

> > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of

> > > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.

> > > >

> > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from

> > > 9th cusp is more logical.

> > > >

> > > > Your valued opinion please.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Suprakash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r

> > > > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM

> > > >

> > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of

> 7th

> > > >

> > > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife

> > > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is

> > > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were

> not

> > > prohibited in Hindoo Society.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house

> for

> > > > second marriage?

> > > >

> > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings,

> which

> > > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.

> > > >

> > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in

> > which

> > > the

> > > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual

> > > planet

> > > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV

> > > >

> > > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with

> 7th

> > > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will

> > keep a

> > > > keep...'

> > > > P146,ReaderIV

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Suprakash

> > > >

> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ravi ji,

> > > > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in

> > dual

> > > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > Kanak Bosmia

> > > > >

> > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear all,

> > > > >

> > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is

> > this

> > > an

> > > > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP

> > principles,

> > > if

> > > > the

> > > > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in

> dual

> > > sign,

> > > > then

> > > > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am

> > > looking

> > > > at,

> > > > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in

> > > Scorpio,

> > > > in

> > > > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage

> look

> > > > promising

> > > > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Ravi

> > > > >

> > > > >

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