Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Dear Kanakji I have gone through all the 5 charts you have given as second assignment.They all again satisfy the KSK rules.(in the 5th and last one I had to consider the essence of KSK rule regarding duality.In my openion, the beauty of astrology is that there is no 'iron clad rules'..the combinations come in many form ..there lies the need of an experienced astrologer- other wise a computer could have predicted every thing.But definitely one must not violate the basic fundamental assumptions of a rule. One interesting thing I noted in all the 11 charts(incl. the chart of Sujataji) is that along with 7th cusp,2nd cusp also have a relation with dual planet/dual sign.Can we take this finding as a rule? I think this will be the most fundamental rule in 2nd marriage. Because, the other two rules, that is, connection of 2,7,11 with 7th and 2nd cusp is very general in nature as we always check that for confirmation of marriage possibility by that way. Case 1 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England 51 30 N 0 10 W England Lagna AQ27:57 Moon Ta4:06 i.Star lord of 2nd cusp is Sun ,posited in Sagg, a dual sign.Sublord moon is also in the star of Sun.Sun conjoined with Jupiter(dual?).(Condition A ) ii.Sublord moon is in the star of Sun, 7th lord.Moon posited in 2nd house.Moon is also significator of 11th as moon is in the star of Sun in conjunction with 11th cuspal sublord Jup.(Condition B ) iii.2nd cusp sublord is Rahu,posited in Sagg, a dual sign.Rahu conjuct with Sun,in the sign of Jupiter hence becomes significator of 7th,11th.Rahu in also in const of Ketu,representing Mercury,strong significator of 11th.(Condition C) All the conditions satisfied. Case 2 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA 33 47 N 118 11 W USA Lagna GE25:45 Moon Vir29:03 i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Mercury posited in Virgo, a dual sign.(Condition A ) ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Mercury is in the star of Mars 11th lord in 7th,Merc is is 2nd cuspal sublord and also in conjunction with Moon, 2nd lord.(Condition B) iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is also Mercury is in the star of Mars 11th lord in 7th,Merc is is 2nd cuspal sublord and also in conjunction with Moon, 2nd lord.(Condition C) All the conditions satisfied. Case 3 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL 41 51 N 87 39 W USA Lagna PI22:11 Moon Sg12:28 i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Venus posited in Pisces, a dual sign.Venus is also in the star of Mercury(dual) and sub of Jupiter(dual?).(Condition A ) ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp Venus is in the star of Merc,7th lord.Venus is in conjunction with Mars,the 2nd Lord and the strong significator of 2nd house.Venus has a quincux aspect with Saturn,the 11th house owner and strong significator of 11th house.(Condition B) iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is Rahu.Rahu is in Sagitt, a dual sign.Rahu is in the star of Venus, 7th sublord. Rahu is in the sub of Saturn, strong 11th house significator.Rahu also Squares Mars,the 2nd house significator.(Condition C) All the conditions satisfied. Case 4 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH 40 34 N 84 12 W USA Lagna GE23:10 Moon Sg04:07:39 i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Saturn posited in Sagtt, a dual sign.Saturn is in the star of Venus which is also in Virgo,a dual sign.Venus is also the star lord of 7th cusp.(Condition A ) ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp Saturn is also the cuspal sublord of 11th.Saturn is in the star of Venus,the 7th cuspal star lord and strong significator of 2nd house.(Venus is in the star of Sun in 2)(Condition B) iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is Mars.Mars is in the star of Moon,2nd lord in a dual sign Sagt.Mars is also 11th lord himself.Mars is in the sub of Venus the 7th cuspal star lord and strong significator of 2nd house in Virgo,a dual sign.(Condition C) All the conditions satisfied. Case 5 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile Lagna TA04:22 Moon Ta11:39 i.This chart is a bit tricky.As per the rule strictly following,no direct connection of dual sign/planet to 7th sublord.But if we get the essence of the rule..that is the connection of duality with cuspal sublord,the chart can be explained. 7th sublord is conjunction with Mercury, a dual sign.Saturn has semi sextile aspect with Jupiter(dual?).Saturn is in the star of Sun, which is conjoint with Mercury, Sun is in star of Mars and sub of Rahu both in dual sign Virgo.Saturn is in the sub of Venus,in conjunction/conjoined with Jupiter.Venus is also in the star of Rahu in dual sign.(Condition A ?) Note: Here I want to address the quary of Raviji Message #12271 : In his case though sulord is conjoined with Mercury, there is no touch of dual sign hence a weak connection of 2nd marriage.I don't know the chart as a totality hence can't comment more. ii.th sublord Saturn is 7th cusp star lord also ,it aspects 7th cusp by sextile aspect,in the star of Sun , 2nd cusp sub lord.Saturn is in conjunction with Mercury 2nd lord and 11th star & sublord. Saturn is also the SS lord of Mercury.(Condition B) iii.2nd sublord is Sun.Sun conjoint with mercury.Sun is in the star of Mars.Mars is in dual sign Virgo.Mars is 7th lord and 2nd cusp starlord.Mars is conjoined with Rahu and in the sub of Rahu. Rahu represents Mercury,11th cusp star and sublord.(Condition C) All the conditions satisfied. Regards Suprakash , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear suprakash ji, > > thanks for analysis, > > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result. > > Please check this: > > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146 > IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON MARRIAGE..... > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce where writen) > there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on this rules. > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail. > > Case 1: > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. > Case -2 > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. > Case-3: > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. > Case no:4 > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. > > Case no:5: > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. > > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate. > > 1) > > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England > 51 30 N 0 10 W England > > 2) > > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA > > 3) > > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA > > 4) > > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA > > 5) > > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile > > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group. > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > Dear Kanakji, > > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis. > > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji. > > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I > need your help in this regard. > > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before: > > The following conditions to be satisfied : > > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is > Mercury/Jupiter. > > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of > houser 2 or 11 or both. > > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of > either 7 or 11 > > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously. > > Now let us review the cases under these rules. > > Case-1 > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A ) > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet > in Mercury star. (Condition B ) > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C ) > > All the conditions satisfied. > > Case-2 > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A ) > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B ) > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd > cusp. (Condition C ) > > All the conditions satisfied. > > Case-3 > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces > (Condition A ) > > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B ) > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C ) > > All the conditions satisfied. > > Case-4 > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini > (Condition A ) > > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B ) > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C ) > > All the conditions satisfied. > > Case-5 > > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual > planet. (Condition A ) > > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd > cusp. > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star > of Mercury. > > All the conditions satisfied. > > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > > > please check bellow data: > > > =================================================================== > > (1) > > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24 > > Heading / Item Notes > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own. > > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o > 5,SAT is in 12 > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1, > > Not indicate multiple marriage. > > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN. > > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 > Conj. with JUP l/o 9 > > Indicate multiple marriage. > > > > ================================================================== > > (2) > > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01 > > Heading / Item Notes > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO. > > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9. > > Not indicate multiple marriage. > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN. > > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple > marriage. > > > ===================================================================== > > 3) > > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA > > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > > Heading / Item Notes > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five > > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER. > > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6. > > Not indicate multiple marriage. > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET. > > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER. > > Indicate multiple marriage. > > =============================================================== > > (4) > > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17 > > Heading / Item Notes > > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own. > > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage. > > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET. > > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in > 11. > > Indicate multiple marriage. > > ================================================================== > > 5) > > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12 > > Heading / Item Notes > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine > > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH. > > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > > Not indicate multiple marraige. > > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH. > > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER. > > ================================================================ > > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you > need more i will send you. > > > > hope this help > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url > (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear > Raichurji > > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which > relation is logical to consider between the two wives- > > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister > > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work. > > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji � will you > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis? > > > > Regards > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r > > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM > > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th > > > > Dear Ghosh > > > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to > find a 3rd child in the family. > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Raichurji > > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still > alive. > > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the > second wife, by law is like a keep. > > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of > her husband a younger sister. > > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage. > > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from > 9th cusp is more logical. > > > > Your valued opinion please. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r > > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM > > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th > > > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not > prohibited in Hindoo Society. > > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > > second marriage? > > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only. > > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which > the > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual > planet > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV > > > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a > > keep...' > > P146,ReaderIV > > > > Regards > > > > Suprakash > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ravi ji, > > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage. > > > > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this > an > > > indication that second marriage is promised? 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Guest guest Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Dear supraksh ji, all five chart you have analies are only one and lasting marriage case. means there is only and only one marriage in his/her life. So that menas rules we analysies aftet second marriage its ok but you cant pridict any thing in advance by this rules. if you want to know more detailes about person please ask i will post all detiles with name. with best regards Kanak Bosmiafeluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Dear KanakjiI have gone through all the 5 charts you have given as secondassignment.They all again satisfy the KSK rules.(in the 5th and lastone I had to consider the essence of KSK rule regarding duality.In myopenion, the beauty of astrology is that there is no 'iron cladrules'..the combinations come in many form ..there lies the need of anexperienced astrologer- other wise a computer could have predictedevery thing.But definitely one must not violate the basic fundamentalassumptions of a rule. One interesting thing I noted in all the 11 charts(incl. the chart ofSujataji) is that along with 7th cusp,2nd cusp also have a relationwith dual planet/dual sign.Can we take this finding as a rule? Ithink this will be the most fundamental rule in 2nd marriage.Because, the other two rules, that is, connection of 2,7,11 with 7thand 2nd cusp is very general in nature as we always check that forconfirmation of marriage possibility by that way.Case 125/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England 51 30 N 0 10 W England Lagna AQ27:57 Moon Ta4:06i.Star lord of 2nd cusp is Sun ,posited in Sagg, a dual sign.Sublordmoon is also in the star of Sun.Sun conjoined withJupiter(dual?).(Condition A )ii.Sublord moon is in the star of Sun, 7th lord.Moon posited in 2ndhouse.Moon is also significator of 11th as moon is in the star of Sunin conjunction with 11th cuspal sublord Jup.(Condition B )iii.2nd cusp sublord is Rahu,posited in Sagg, a dual sign.Rahu conjuctwith Sun,in the sign of Jupiter hence becomes significator of7th,11th.Rahu in also in const of Ketu,representing Mercury,strongsignificator of 11th.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.Case 219/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA 33 47 N 118 11 W USA Lagna GE25:45 Moon Vir29:03i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Mercury posited in Virgo, a dualsign.(Condition A )ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Mercury is in the star of Mars 11th lord in7th,Merc is is 2nd cuspal sublord and also in conjunction with Moon,2nd lord.(Condition B)iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is also Mercury is in the star of Mars 11thlord in 7th,Merc is is 2nd cuspal sublord and also in conjunction withMoon, 2nd lord.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.Case 313/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL 41 51 N 87 39 W USA Lagna PI22:11 Moon Sg12:28i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Venus posited in Pisces, a dual sign.Venusis also in the star of Mercury(dual) and sub ofJupiter(dual?).(Condition A )ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp Venus is in the star of Merc,7th lord.Venus isin conjunction with Mars,the 2nd Lord and the strong significator of2nd house.Venus has a quincux aspect with Saturn,the 11th house ownerand strong significator of 11th house.(Condition B)iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is Rahu.Rahu is in Sagitt, a dual sign.Rahuis in the star of Venus, 7th sublord. Rahu is in the sub of Saturn,strong 11th house significator.Rahu also Squares Mars,the 2nd housesignificator.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.Case 405/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH 40 34 N 84 12 W USA Lagna GE23:10 Moon Sg04:07:39i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Saturn posited in Sagtt, a dual sign.Saturnis in the star of Venus which is also in Virgo,a dual sign.Venus isalso the star lord of 7th cusp.(Condition A )ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp Saturn is also the cuspal sublord of11th.Saturn is in the star of Venus,the 7th cuspal star lord andstrong significator of 2nd house.(Venus is in the star of Sun in2)(Condition B)iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is Mars.Mars is in the star of Moon,2nd lordin a dual sign Sagt.Mars is also 11th lord himself.Mars is in the subof Venus the 7th cuspal star lord and strong significator of 2nd housein Virgo,a dual sign.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.Case 506/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile Lagna TA04:22 Moon Ta11:39i.This chart is a bit tricky.As per the rule strictly following,nodirect connection of dual sign/planet to 7th sublord.But if we get theessence of the rule..that is the connection of duality with cuspalsublord,the chart can be explained.7th sublord is conjunction with Mercury, a dual sign.Saturn has semisextile aspect with Jupiter(dual?).Saturn is in the star of Sun, whichis conjoint with Mercury, Sun is in star of Mars and sub of Rahu bothin dual sign Virgo.Saturn is in the sub of Venus,inconjunction/conjoined with Jupiter.Venus is also in the star of Rahuin dual sign.(Condition A ?)Note: Here I want to address the quary of Raviji Message #12271 : In hiscase though sulord is conjoined with Mercury, there is no touch ofdual sign hence a weak connection of 2nd marriage.I don't know thechart as a totality hence can't comment more.ii.th sublord Saturn is 7th cusp star lord also ,it aspects 7th cuspby sextile aspect,in the star of Sun , 2nd cusp sub lord.Saturn is inconjunction with Mercury 2nd lord and 11th star & sublord. Saturn isalso the SS lord of Mercury.(Condition B)iii.2nd sublord is Sun.Sun conjoint with mercury.Sun is in the star ofMars.Mars is in dual sign Virgo.Mars is 7th lord and 2nd cuspstarlord.Mars is conjoined with Rahu and in the sub of Rahu. Rahurepresents Mercury,11th cusp star and sublord.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.RegardsSuprakash , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear suprakash ji,> > thanks for analysis,> > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which isconsider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about youwork. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing westernaspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value forall 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want toanalys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rulesand if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evrychart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try tofind out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriagedata you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies wefound that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.> > Please check this:> > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146> IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECONMARRIAGE.....> (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.notmention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce wherewriten)> there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have addsome more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on thisrules.> 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiplemarriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearlymention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship pleasecheck. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rulesgivan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail. > > Case 1:> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> Case -2> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> Case-3:> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> Case no:4> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > Case no:5:> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and giveyou reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.> > 1)> > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England > 51 30 N 0 10 W England > > 2)> > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA > > 3)> > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA > > 4)> > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA > > 5)> > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile > > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> Dear Kanakji,> > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.> > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.> > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I > need your help in this regard.> > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:> > The following conditions to be satisfied :> > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is > Mercury/Jupiter.> > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of > houser 2 or 11 or both.> > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of > either 7 or 11> > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.> > Now let us review the cases under these rules.> > Case-1> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet > in Mercury star. (Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-2> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd > cusp. (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-3> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces > (Condition A )> > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-4> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini > (Condition A )> > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-5> > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual > planet. (Condition A )> > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd > cusp.> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star > of Mercury.> > All the conditions satisfied.> > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > please check bellow data:> > > ===================================================================> > (1)> > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o > 5,SAT is in 12 > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 > Conj. with JUP l/o 9> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > > ==================================================================> > (2)> > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple > marriage. > > > =====================================================================> > 3)> > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > ===============================================================> > (4)> > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in > 11.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > ==================================================================> > 5)> > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > > Not indicate multiple marraige.> > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> > ================================================================> > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you > need more i will send you.> > > > hope this help> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url> (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear > Raichurji> > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji � will you > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > Dear Ghosh> > > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to > find a 3rd child in the family. > > > > good luck> > > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > Dear Raichurji> > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still > alive.> > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the > second wife, by law is like a keep.> > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of > her husband a younger sister.> > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from > 9th cusp is more logical.> > > > Your valued opinion please.> > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not > prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > > second marriage?> > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which > the > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual > planet > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a > > keep...'> > P146,ReaderIV> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ravi ji,> > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this > an> > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles, > if > > the> > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual > sign, > > then> > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am > looking > > at,> > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in > Scorpio, > > in> > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look > > promising> > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Ravi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Food fight? 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Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Dear Kannakji Thanks for the eye opening exercise. Either the astrology is wrong or the rules. If it is the rules, it does not mean rules you suggest to use for second marriage its ok. The probability is still 50:50+ (5 wrong/6 right). Give me more data at least another 20 particularly the one which are not explained by KSK rules. let me try your rule regarding 2nd marriage. As I understand , as per your findings,we don’t need to see the connection of duality with 7th cusp. Is it? Please state the rule clearly. Oh yes, yesterday I was going through the book by Sambhugam -Astro Secterts & Krishnamurthy Part-1 where he advocates to take Jupiter alongwith Mercury for 2nd marriage. This is just for information. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Kanak Bosmia Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:23 PM Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis-II Dear supraksh ji, all five chart you have analies are only one and lasting marriage case. means there is only and only one marriage in his/her life. So that menas rules we analysies aftet second marriage its ok but you cant pridict any thing in advance by this rules. if you want to know more detailes about person please ask i will post all detiles with name. with best regards Kanak Bosmia feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Dear Kanakji I have gone through all the 5 charts you have given as second assignment.They all again satisfy the KSK rules.(in the 5th and last one I had to consider the essence of KSK rule regarding duality.In my openion, the beauty of astrology is that there is no 'iron clad rules'..the combinations come in many form ..there lies the need of an experienced astrologer- other wise a computer could have predicted every thing.But definitely one must not violate the basic fundamental assumptions of a rule. One interesting thing I noted in all the 11 charts(incl. the chart of Sujataji) is that along with 7th cusp,2nd cusp also have a relation with dual planet/dual sign.Can we take this finding as a rule? I think this will be the most fundamental rule in 2nd marriage. Because, the other two rules, that is, connection of 2,7,11 with 7th and 2nd cusp is very general in nature as we always check that for confirmation of marriage possibility by that way. Case 1 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England 51 30 N 0 10 W England Lagna AQ27:57 Moon Ta4:06 i.Star lord of 2nd cusp is Sun ,posited in Sagg, a dual sign.Sublord moon is also in the star of Sun.Sun conjoined with Jupiter(dual?).(Condition A ) ii.Sublord moon is in the star of Sun, 7th lord.Moon posited in 2nd house.Moon is also significator of 11th as moon is in the star of Sun in conjunction with 11th cuspal sublord Jup.(Condition B ) iii.2nd cusp sublord is Rahu,posited in Sagg, a dual sign.Rahu conjuct with Sun,in the sign of Jupiter hence becomes significator of 7th,11th.Rahu in also in const of Ketu,representing Mercury,strong significator of 11th.(Condition C) All the conditions satisfied. Case 2 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA 33 47 N 118 11 W USA Lagna GE25:45 Moon Vir29:03 i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Mercury posited in Virgo, a dual sign.(Condition A ) ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Mercury is in the star of Mars 11th lord in 7th,Merc is is 2nd cuspal sublord and also in conjunction with Moon, 2nd lord.(Condition B) iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is also Mercury is in the star of Mars 11th lord in 7th,Merc is is 2nd cuspal sublord and also in conjunction with Moon, 2nd lord.(Condition C) All the conditions satisfied. Case 3 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL 41 51 N 87 39 W USA Lagna PI22:11 Moon Sg12:28 i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Venus posited in Pisces, a dual sign.Venus is also in the star of Mercury(dual) and sub of Jupiter(dual?).(Condition A ) ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp Venus is in the star of Merc,7th lord.Venus is in conjunction with Mars,the 2nd Lord and the strong significator of 2nd house.Venus has a quincux aspect with Saturn,the 11th house owner and strong significator of 11th house.(Condition B) iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is Rahu.Rahu is in Sagitt, a dual sign.Rahu is in the star of Venus, 7th sublord. Rahu is in the sub of Saturn, strong 11th house significator.Rahu also Squares Mars,the 2nd house significator.(Condition C) All the conditions satisfied. Case 4 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH 40 34 N 84 12 W USA Lagna GE23:10 Moon Sg04:07:39 i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Saturn posited in Sagtt, a dual sign.Saturn is in the star of Venus which is also in Virgo,a dual sign.Venus is also the star lord of 7th cusp.(Condition A ) ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp Saturn is also the cuspal sublord of 11th.Saturn is in the star of Venus,the 7th cuspal star lord and strong significator of 2nd house.(Venus is in the star of Sun in 2)(Condition B) iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is Mars.Mars is in the star of Moon,2nd lord in a dual sign Sagt.Mars is also 11th lord himself.Mars is in the sub of Venus the 7th cuspal star lord and strong significator of 2nd house in Virgo,a dual sign.(Condition C) All the conditions satisfied. Case 5 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile Lagna TA04:22 Moon Ta11:39 i.This chart is a bit tricky.As per the rule strictly following,no direct connection of dual sign/planet to 7th sublord.But if we get the essence of the rule..that is the connection of duality with cuspal sublord,the chart can be explained. 7th sublord is conjunction with Mercury, a dual sign.Saturn has semi sextile aspect with Jupiter(dual?).Saturn is in the star of Sun, which is conjoint with Mercury, Sun is in star of Mars and sub of Rahu both in dual sign Virgo.Saturn is in the sub of Venus,in conjunction/conjoined with Jupiter.Venus is also in the star of Rahu in dual sign.(Condition A ?) Note: Here I want to address the quary of Raviji Message #12271 : In his case though sulord is conjoined with Mercury, there is no touch of dual sign hence a weak connection of 2nd marriage.I don't know the chart as a totality hence can't comment more. ii.th sublord Saturn is 7th cusp star lord also ,it aspects 7th cusp by sextile aspect,in the star of Sun , 2nd cusp sub lord.Saturn is in conjunction with Mercury 2nd lord and 11th star & sublord. Saturn is also the SS lord of Mercury.(Condition B) iii.2nd sublord is Sun.Sun conjoint with mercury.Sun is in the star of Mars.Mars is in dual sign Virgo.Mars is 7th lord and 2nd cusp starlord.Mars is conjoined with Rahu and in the sub of Rahu. Rahu represents Mercury,11th cusp star and sublord.(Condition C) All the conditions satisfied. Regards Suprakash , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear suprakash ji, > > thanks for analysis, > > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which is consider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about you work. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing western aspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value for all 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want to analys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rules and if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evry chart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try to find out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriage data you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies we found that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result. > > Please check this: > > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146 > IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECON MARRIAGE..... > (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.not mention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce where writen) > there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have add some more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on this rules. > 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiple marriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearly mention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship please check. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rules givan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail. > > Case 1: > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. > Case -2 > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. > Case-3: > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. > Case no:4 > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. > > Case no:5: > Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE. > > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and give you reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate. > > 1) > > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England > 51 30 N 0 10 W England > > 2) > > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA > > 3) > > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA > > 4) > > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA > > 5) > > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile > > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group. > > regards > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > Dear Kanakji, > > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis. > > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji. > > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I > need your help in this regard. > > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before: > > The following conditions to be satisfied : > > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is > Mercury/Jupiter. > > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of > houser 2 or 11 or both. > > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of > either 7 or 11 > > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously. > > Now let us review the cases under these rules. > > Case-1 > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A ) > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet > in Mercury star. (Condition B ) > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C ) > > All the conditions satisfied. > > Case-2 > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A ) > > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B ) > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd > cusp. (Condition C ) > > All the conditions satisfied. > > Case-3 > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces > (Condition A ) > > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B ) > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C ) > > All the conditions satisfied. > > Case-4 > > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini > (Condition A ) > > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B ) > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C ) > > All the conditions satisfied. > > Case-5 > > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual > planet. (Condition A ) > > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd > cusp. > > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star > of Mercury. > > All the conditions satisfied. > > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > > > please check bellow data: > > > =================================================================== > > (1) > > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24 > > Heading / Item Notes > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own. > > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o > 5,SAT is in 12 > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1, > > Not indicate multiple marriage. > > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN. > > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 > Conj. with JUP l/o 9 > > Indicate multiple marriage. > > > > ================================================================== > > (2) > > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01 > > Heading / Item Notes > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five > > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO. > > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9. > > Not indicate multiple marriage. > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN. > > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple > marriage. > > > ===================================================================== > > 3) > > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA > > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > > Heading / Item Notes > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five > > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER. > > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6. > > Not indicate multiple marriage. > > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET. > > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER. > > Indicate multiple marriage. > > =============================================================== > > (4) > > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17 > > Heading / Item Notes > > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own. > > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage. > > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET. > > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in > 11. > > Indicate multiple marriage. > > ================================================================== > > 5) > > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12 > > Heading / Item Notes > > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine > > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH. > > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > > Not indicate multiple marraige. > > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH. > > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER. > > ================================================================ > > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you > need more i will send you. > > > > hope this help > > > > regards > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url > (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear > Raichurji > > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which > relation is logical to consider between the two wives- > > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister > > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work. > > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji � will you > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis? > > > > Regards > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r > > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM > > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th > > > > Dear Ghosh > > > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to > find a 3rd child in the family. > > > > good luck > > > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Raichurji > > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still > alive. > > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the > second wife, by law is like a keep. > > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of > her husband a younger sister. > > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage. > > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from > 9th cusp is more logical. > > > > Your valued opinion please. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r > > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM > > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th > > > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not > prohibited in Hindoo Society. > > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > > second marriage? > > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only. > > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which > the > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual > planet > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV > > > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a > > keep...' > > P146,ReaderIV > > > > Regards > > > > Suprakash > > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ravi ji, > > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage. > > > > > > regards > > > Kanak Bosmia > > > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this > an > > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles, > if > > the > > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual > sign, > > then > > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am > looking > > at, > > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in > Scorpio, > > in > > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look > > promising > > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Ravi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first. " > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Food fight? 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Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Dear Supraksh ji, I belive that if we want to check multimarriage rules then very first we have to check with singal marriage data, will this rules say NO Multiple marriage? very first i do this and found YES 90% data indicate multiple mmarriage but i choose data only and only one marriage for exmple one married and after two month he was died, means there is no chance of second marriage any how, and there is no room for doubt in our mind.i select 100 case and found rules you have check are not tally.but if you check with 9th SL result is some good then original rules. again i check 9th SL rules with multimarraige and i found this rules work better than original. but even i am not setisfied with this work, bcoze we need rules which is any how not say multiple marriage in singla marriage data, i am silently working on it, but at this stage i dont have any good news, may be if god favoure me,we all members of my research group come with it. i will send you some more data within day or two. regards Kanak Bosmia Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Dear Kannakji Thanks for the eye opening exercise. Either the astrology is wrong or the rules. If it is the rules, it does not mean rules you suggest to use for second marriage its ok. The probability is still 50:50+ (5 wrong/6 right). Give me more data at least another 20 particularly the one which are not explained by KSK rules. let me try your rule regarding 2nd marriage. As I understand , as per your findings,we don’t need to see the connection of duality with 7th cusp. Is it? Please state the rule clearly. Oh yes, yesterday I was going through the book by Sambhugam -Astro Secterts & Krishnamurthy Part-1 where he advocates to take Jupiter alongwith Mercury for 2nd marriage. This is just for information. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaSunday, April 15, 2007 10:23 PM Subject: Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis-II Dear supraksh ji, all five chart you have analies are only one and lasting marriage case. means there is only and only one marriage in his/her life. So that menas rules we analysies aftet second marriage its ok but you cant pridict any thing in advance by this rules. if you want to know more detailes about person please ask i will post all detiles with name. with best regards Kanak Bosmiafeluda4u <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear KanakjiI have gone through all the 5 charts you have given as secondassignment.They all again satisfy the KSK rules.(in the 5th and lastone I had to consider the essence of KSK rule regarding duality.In myopenion, the beauty of astrology is that there is no 'iron cladrules'..the combinations come in many form ..there lies the need of anexperienced astrologer- other wise a computer could have predictedevery thing.But definitely one must not violate the basic fundamentalassumptions of a rule. One interesting thing I noted in all the 11 charts(incl. the chart ofSujataji) is that along with 7th cusp,2nd cusp also have a relationwith dual planet/dual sign.Can we take this finding as a rule? Ithink this will be the most fundamental rule in 2nd marriage.Because, the other two rules, that is, connection of 2,7,11 with 7thand 2nd cusp is very general in nature as we always check that forconfirmation of marriage possibility by that way.Case 125/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England 51 30 N 0 10 W England Lagna AQ27:57 Moon Ta4:06i.Star lord of 2nd cusp is Sun ,posited in Sagg, a dual sign.Sublordmoon is also in the star of Sun.Sun conjoined withJupiter(dual?).(Condition A )ii.Sublord moon is in the star of Sun, 7th lord.Moon posited in 2ndhouse.Moon is also significator of 11th as moon is in the star of Sunin conjunction with 11th cuspal sublord Jup.(Condition B )iii.2nd cusp sublord is Rahu,posited in Sagg, a dual sign.Rahu conjuctwith Sun,in the sign of Jupiter hence becomes significator of7th,11th.Rahu in also in const of Ketu,representing Mercury,strongsignificator of 11th.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.Case 219/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA 33 47 N 118 11 W USA Lagna GE25:45 Moon Vir29:03i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Mercury posited in Virgo, a dualsign.(Condition A )ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Mercury is in the star of Mars 11th lord in7th,Merc is is 2nd cuspal sublord and also in conjunction with Moon,2nd lord.(Condition B)iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is also Mercury is in the star of Mars 11thlord in 7th,Merc is is 2nd cuspal sublord and also in conjunction withMoon, 2nd lord.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.Case 313/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL 41 51 N 87 39 W USA Lagna PI22:11 Moon Sg12:28i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Venus posited in Pisces, a dual sign.Venusis also in the star of Mercury(dual) and sub ofJupiter(dual?).(Condition A )ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp Venus is in the star of Merc,7th lord.Venus isin conjunction with Mars,the 2nd Lord and the strong significator of2nd house.Venus has a quincux aspect with Saturn,the 11th house ownerand strong significator of 11th house.(Condition B)iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is Rahu.Rahu is in Sagitt, a dual sign.Rahuis in the star of Venus, 7th sublord. Rahu is in the sub of Saturn,strong 11th house significator.Rahu also Squares Mars,the 2nd housesignificator.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.Case 405/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH 40 34 N 84 12 W USA Lagna GE23:10 Moon Sg04:07:39i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Saturn posited in Sagtt, a dual sign.Saturnis in the star of Venus which is also in Virgo,a dual sign.Venus isalso the star lord of 7th cusp.(Condition A )ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp Saturn is also the cuspal sublord of11th.Saturn is in the star of Venus,the 7th cuspal star lord andstrong significator of 2nd house.(Venus is in the star of Sun in2)(Condition B)iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is Mars.Mars is in the star of Moon,2nd lordin a dual sign Sagt.Mars is also 11th lord himself.Mars is in the subof Venus the 7th cuspal star lord and strong significator of 2nd housein Virgo,a dual sign.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.Case 506/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile Lagna TA04:22 Moon Ta11:39i.This chart is a bit tricky.As per the rule strictly following,nodirect connection of dual sign/planet to 7th sublord.But if we get theessence of the rule..that is the connection of duality with cuspalsublord,the chart can be explained.7th sublord is conjunction with Mercury, a dual sign.Saturn has semisextile aspect with Jupiter(dual?).Saturn is in the star of Sun, whichis conjoint with Mercury, Sun is in star of Mars and sub of Rahu bothin dual sign Virgo.Saturn is in the sub of Venus,inconjunction/conjoined with Jupiter.Venus is also in the star of Rahuin dual sign.(Condition A ?)Note: Here I want to address the quary of Raviji Message #12271 : In hiscase though sulord is conjoined with Mercury, there is no touch ofdual sign hence a weak connection of 2nd marriage.I don't know thechart as a totality hence can't comment more.ii.th sublord Saturn is 7th cusp star lord also ,it aspects 7th cuspby sextile aspect,in the star of Sun , 2nd cusp sub lord.Saturn is inconjunction with Mercury 2nd lord and 11th star & sublord. Saturn isalso the SS lord of Mercury.(Condition B)iii.2nd sublord is Sun.Sun conjoint with mercury.Sun is in the star ofMars.Mars is in dual sign Virgo.Mars is 7th lord and 2nd cuspstarlord.Mars is conjoined with Rahu and in the sub of Rahu. Rahurepresents Mercury,11th cusp star and sublord.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.RegardsSuprakash , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear suprakash ji,> > thanks for analysis,> > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which isconsider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about youwork. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing westernaspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value forall 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want toanalys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rulesand if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evrychart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try tofind out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriagedata you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies wefound that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.> > Please check this:> > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146> IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECONMARRIAGE.....> (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.notmention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce wherewriten)> there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have addsome more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on thisrules.> 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiplemarriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearlymention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship pleasecheck. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rulesgivan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail. > > Case 1:> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> Case -2> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> Case-3:> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> Case no:4> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > Case no:5:> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and giveyou reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.> > 1)> > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England > 51 30 N 0 10 W England > > 2)> > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA > > 3)> > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA > > 4)> > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA > > 5)> > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile > > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> Dear Kanakji,> > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.> > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.> > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I > need your help in this regard.> > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:> > The following conditions to be satisfied :> > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is > Mercury/Jupiter.> > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of > houser 2 or 11 or both.> > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of > either 7 or 11> > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.> > Now let us review the cases under these rules.> > Case-1> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet > in Mercury star. (Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-2> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd > cusp. (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-3> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces > (Condition A )> > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-4> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini > (Condition A )> > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-5> > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual > planet. (Condition A )> > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd > cusp.> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star > of Mercury.> > All the conditions satisfied.> > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > please check bellow data:> > > ===================================================================> > (1)> > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o > 5,SAT is in 12 > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 > Conj. with JUP l/o 9> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > > ==================================================================> > (2)> > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple > marriage. > > > =====================================================================> > 3)> > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > ===============================================================> > (4)> > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in > 11.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > ==================================================================> > 5)> > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > > Not indicate multiple marraige.> > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> > ================================================================> > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you > need more i will send you.> > > > hope this help> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url> (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear > Raichurji> > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji � will you > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > Dear Ghosh> > > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to > find a 3rd child in the family. > > > > good luck> > > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > Dear Raichurji> > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still > alive.> > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the > second wife, by law is like a keep.> > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of > her husband a younger sister.> > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from > 9th cusp is more logical.> > > > Your valued opinion please.> > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not > prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > > second marriage?> > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which > the > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual > planet > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a > > keep...'> > P146,ReaderIV> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ravi ji,> > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this > an> > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles, > if > > the> > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual > sign, > > then> > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am > looking > > at,> > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in > Scorpio, > > in> > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look > > promising> > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Ravi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Food fight? 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Dear Suprakash ji, Find bellow more 10 data., hope this help, please share you finding, 27/06/1930 5:34 CST Texarkana, TX 33 26 N 94 2 W USA 19/01/1946 20:25 EST Locust Ridge, TN 35 50 N 83 35 W USA 21/01/1940 3:10 EST Columbus, OH 39 58 N 83 0 W USA 01/10/1935 2:40 CST Chicago, IL 41 52 N 87 39 W USA 24/09/1924 8:45 MET Locarno, Switzerland 46 10 N 8 48 E Switzerland 06/01/1957 16:00 PST Torrance, CA 33 50 N 118 20 W USA 21/07/1930 8:23 PST San Diego, CA 32 43 N 117 9 W USA 05/01/1938 13:15 MET Rome, Italy 41 54 N 12 29 E Italy 24/12/1837 22:43 LMT Munich, Germany 48 8 N 11 34 E Germany 17/11/1944 10:20 EWT Neptune, NJ 40 13 N 74 2 W USA regards Kanak Bosmia Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh wrote: Dear Kannakji Thanks for the eye opening exercise. Either the astrology is wrong or the rules. If it is the rules, it does not mean rules you suggest to use for second marriage its ok. The probability is still 50:50+ (5 wrong/6 right). Give me more data at least another 20 particularly the one which are not explained by KSK rules. let me try your rule regarding 2nd marriage. As I understand , as per your findings,we don’t need to see the connection of duality with 7th cusp. Is it? Please state the rule clearly. Oh yes, yesterday I was going through the book by Sambhugam -Astro Secterts & Krishnamurthy Part-1 where he advocates to take Jupiter alongwith Mercury for 2nd marriage. This is just for information. Regards Suprakash On Behalf Of Kanak BosmiaSunday, April 15, 2007 10:23 PM Subject: Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th: My analysis-II Dear supraksh ji, all five chart you have analies are only one and lasting marriage case. means there is only and only one marriage in his/her life. So that menas rules we analysies aftet second marriage its ok but you cant pridict any thing in advance by this rules. if you want to know more detailes about person please ask i will post all detiles with name. with best regards Kanak Bosmiafeluda4u <suprakash.ghosh (AT) cesc (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear KanakjiI have gone through all the 5 charts you have given as secondassignment.They all again satisfy the KSK rules.(in the 5th and lastone I had to consider the essence of KSK rule regarding duality.In myopenion, the beauty of astrology is that there is no 'iron cladrules'..the combinations come in many form ..there lies the need of anexperienced astrologer- other wise a computer could have predictedevery thing.But definitely one must not violate the basic fundamentalassumptions of a rule. One interesting thing I noted in all the 11 charts(incl. the chart ofSujataji) is that along with 7th cusp,2nd cusp also have a relationwith dual planet/dual sign.Can we take this finding as a rule? Ithink this will be the most fundamental rule in 2nd marriage.Because, the other two rules, that is, connection of 2,7,11 with 7thand 2nd cusp is very general in nature as we always check that forconfirmation of marriage possibility by that way.Case 125/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England 51 30 N 0 10 W England Lagna AQ27:57 Moon Ta4:06i.Star lord of 2nd cusp is Sun ,posited in Sagg, a dual sign.Sublordmoon is also in the star of Sun.Sun conjoined withJupiter(dual?).(Condition A )ii.Sublord moon is in the star of Sun, 7th lord.Moon posited in 2ndhouse.Moon is also significator of 11th as moon is in the star of Sunin conjunction with 11th cuspal sublord Jup.(Condition B )iii.2nd cusp sublord is Rahu,posited in Sagg, a dual sign.Rahu conjuctwith Sun,in the sign of Jupiter hence becomes significator of7th,11th.Rahu in also in const of Ketu,representing Mercury,strongsignificator of 11th.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.Case 219/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA 33 47 N 118 11 W USA Lagna GE25:45 Moon Vir29:03i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Mercury posited in Virgo, a dualsign.(Condition A )ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Mercury is in the star of Mars 11th lord in7th,Merc is is 2nd cuspal sublord and also in conjunction with Moon,2nd lord.(Condition B)iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is also Mercury is in the star of Mars 11thlord in 7th,Merc is is 2nd cuspal sublord and also in conjunction withMoon, 2nd lord.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.Case 313/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL 41 51 N 87 39 W USA Lagna PI22:11 Moon Sg12:28i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Venus posited in Pisces, a dual sign.Venusis also in the star of Mercury(dual) and sub ofJupiter(dual?).(Condition A )ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp Venus is in the star of Merc,7th lord.Venus isin conjunction with Mars,the 2nd Lord and the strong significator of2nd house.Venus has a quincux aspect with Saturn,the 11th house ownerand strong significator of 11th house.(Condition B)iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is Rahu.Rahu is in Sagitt, a dual sign.Rahuis in the star of Venus, 7th sublord. Rahu is in the sub of Saturn,strong 11th house significator.Rahu also Squares Mars,the 2nd housesignificator.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.Case 405/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH 40 34 N 84 12 W USA Lagna GE23:10 Moon Sg04:07:39i.Sub lord of 7nd cusp is Saturn posited in Sagtt, a dual sign.Saturnis in the star of Venus which is also in Virgo,a dual sign.Venus isalso the star lord of 7th cusp.(Condition A )ii.Sub lord of 7nd cusp Saturn is also the cuspal sublord of11th.Saturn is in the star of Venus,the 7th cuspal star lord andstrong significator of 2nd house.(Venus is in the star of Sun in2)(Condition B)iii.Sub lord of 2nd cusp is Mars.Mars is in the star of Moon,2nd lordin a dual sign Sagt.Mars is also 11th lord himself.Mars is in the subof Venus the 7th cuspal star lord and strong significator of 2nd housein Virgo,a dual sign.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.Case 506/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile Lagna TA04:22 Moon Ta11:39i.This chart is a bit tricky.As per the rule strictly following,nodirect connection of dual sign/planet to 7th sublord.But if we get theessence of the rule..that is the connection of duality with cuspalsublord,the chart can be explained.7th sublord is conjunction with Mercury, a dual sign.Saturn has semisextile aspect with Jupiter(dual?).Saturn is in the star of Sun, whichis conjoint with Mercury, Sun is in star of Mars and sub of Rahu bothin dual sign Virgo.Saturn is in the sub of Venus,inconjunction/conjoined with Jupiter.Venus is also in the star of Rahuin dual sign.(Condition A ?)Note: Here I want to address the quary of Raviji Message #12271 : In hiscase though sulord is conjoined with Mercury, there is no touch ofdual sign hence a weak connection of 2nd marriage.I don't know thechart as a totality hence can't comment more.ii.th sublord Saturn is 7th cusp star lord also ,it aspects 7th cuspby sextile aspect,in the star of Sun , 2nd cusp sub lord.Saturn is inconjunction with Mercury 2nd lord and 11th star & sublord. Saturn isalso the SS lord of Mercury.(Condition B)iii.2nd sublord is Sun.Sun conjoint with mercury.Sun is in the star ofMars.Mars is in dual sign Virgo.Mars is 7th lord and 2nd cuspstarlord.Mars is conjoined with Rahu and in the sub of Rahu. Rahurepresents Mercury,11th cusp star and sublord.(Condition C)All the conditions satisfied.RegardsSuprakash , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear suprakash ji,> > thanks for analysis,> > 1) Please give refernace in which book rules mention which isconsider by you. and after your mail i will reply in detiles about youwork. 2) give me any exmple givan by sri KSK ji with useing westernaspect. I need only one exmple no more. 3) give Asc and Moon value forall 5 case to tally with my Asc and Mon position.4) if you want toanalys with what all givan in reader there is a bout 5 deffernt rulesand if you tally with all five rules you will found each and evrychart with multiple marriage, i have done this first and then try tofind out some comman from all.not this but even in singla marriagedata you will found same multiple marriage, after all excercies wefound that if we check with 9th SL result give maximam correct result.> > Please check this:> > (2)TREADER-4 PAGE NO: 146> IF THE SUBLORD OF THE SECOND CUSP IS CONNECTED WITH 7TH HOUSE, SECONMARRIAGE.....> (A. MER is Dual Planet. B.Mithun,Dhan and Meen are Dual Rasi.notmention no smae page but if you need i will give you refernce wherewriten)> there is no other condition givan in this rule but you have addsome more from other rules. I have send you analysis base only on thisrules.> 1)conected with Mer but not signifes 7 so not indicate multiplemarriage. youn have modifes rule as Condition C : The sublord of the2nd cusp is also a significator of either 7 or 11in this page clearlymention that is conected with 11 attachment and friendship pleasecheck. and i have send you some case specialy indicate about rulesgivan in reader-4 page no: 146 which is give by you in first mail. > > Case 1:> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> Case -2> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> Case-3:> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> Case no:4> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > Case no:5:> Not conected with 7 NO MULTIPLE MARRIAGE.> > now befor you give me reply please check more five chart and giveyou reply, in which condition multiple marriage indicate.> > 1)> > 25/12/1936 11:20 GMT London, England > 51 30 N 0 10 W England > > 2)> > 19/10/1922 22:18 PST Long Beach, CA > 33 47 N 118 11 W USA > > 3)> > 13/04/1917 5:00 CST Chicago, IL > 41 51 N 87 39 W USA > > 4)> > 05/08/1930 0:31 EST Washington, OH > 40 34 N 84 12 W USA > > 5)> > 06/02/1903 23:54 LMT Chillan, Chile > 36 36 S 72 7 W Chile > > After a long time there is a aducative discuusion start in group.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh wrote:> Dear Kanakji,> > Thanks for the Cases you have given for analysis.> > The charts exactly satisfies the dictum of our Guruji.> > If requird I can analyse some more charts for further confirmation.I > need your help in this regard.> > First of all I want to state the rules for 2nd marriage as said by > Krishnamurtiji and also discussed in this forum before:> > The following conditions to be satisfied :> > Condition A : The sublord of the 7nd cusp or its starlord is > deposited in a dual sign or sublord of the 7nd cusp is > Mercury/Jupiter.> > Condition B: The sublord of the 7nd cusp is also a significator of > houser 2 or 11 or both.> > Condition C : The sublord of the 2nd cusp is also a significator of > either 7 or 11> > All the three conditions to be satisfied simultaneously.> > Now let us review the cases under these rules.> > Case-1> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 2nd lord and no planet > in Mercury star. (Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu conjoined with Merc. > hence represents Merc, cuspal star & sublord of 7th .Rahu is also 2nd > & 11 th cusp star lord. (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-2> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Mercury a dual planet (Condition > A )> > ii)Mercury signifies 2nd house as Mercury is 11th lord and no planet > in 11th. Also Mercury is star lord of the 2nd cusp & have opposition > aspect with 7th cusp(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Rahu. Rahu in the star of > Merc,lord of 11 and sublord of 7th.Mercury is star lord of the 2nd > cusp. (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-3> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus, posited in a dual sign Pisces > (Condition A )> > ii)Venus posited in 2nd house and is in ths star of Saturn, lord of > 2nd. Venus also forms a sqare aspect with Mars, 11th lord.Venus is > also in the sub of Merc, the 11th cusp star lord.(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn. Saturn is in the star of > Sun, the 11th cusp sublord.Saturn forms sextile aspect with 7th cusp > and semi sextile aspect with 11th lord Mars (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-4> > i)The sublord of the 7nd cusp is Venus posited in a dual sign Gemini > (Condition A )> > ii)Venus is the strong significator of 11th being in star of Rahu,who > is in 11.Rahu also reprenents 2nd hose as he is in the star of > Saturn , lord of 2nd.(Condition B )> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Saturn.Saturn is the starlord of > 11th cusp,forms Square aspect with Mars,strongest significator of > 11th and posited in sign of Mars.Saturn also forms Square aspect with > Jupiter,posited in 7th (No planet in Jupiter star) (Condition C )> > All the conditions satisfied.> > Case-5> > i)The star lord of 7th cusp,Ketu is in a dual sign Piesces. Sublord > of the 7nd cusp is Venus. Venus is in the star of Jupiter a dual > planet.Moreover, the sub sub lord of the 7th cusp is mercury, a dual > planet. (Condition A )> > ii) Sublord of the 7nd cusp Venus.Venus is strong significator of > 11th cusp being in the star of Jup,posited in 11th.Jupiter also is > the star lord off 2nd cusp.Venus also have a Trine aspect with 2nd > cusp.> > iii)The sublord of the 2nd cusp is Mercury.Mercury is 11th cusp > sublord. Also have semi sextile aspect with Ketu & Sun, strong > significator of 11th house and 7th house .No planets are in the star > of Mercury.> > All the conditions satisfied.> > -- In , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Suprakash ji,> > > > please check bellow data:> > > ===================================================================> > (1)> > 17/04/1911 7:15 GMT Angers, France > > 47 28 N 0 33 W France Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 17 TA 30.29 MOON: 14 Sc 38.24> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Four> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of VEN and sub of Own.> > RAH is in 12,RAH conj with SUN,SAT,MER:SUN is in 12 l/o > 5,SAT is in 12 > > l/o 10,11. MER is in 12 l/o 2,3,6, VEN is in 12 l/o 1,> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak: 9th SL is SUN in the star of KET and sub of OWN.> > SUN conj. with MER.SUN is in 12 l/o 5,KET is in 6 > Conj. with JUP l/o 9> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > > > ==================================================================> > (2)> > (F) 26/11/1961 5:35 CST Paducah, KY > > 37 5 N 88 36 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc.25 LI 50.26 MOON: 29 GE 25.01> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > Rule-2:2nd SL is RAH in the star of MER and sub of MOO.> > RAH is in 9, MER is in 1 l/o 9,11,MOO is in 9.> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MOO in the star of JUP and sub of SUN.> > MOO is in dual rasi Mithuna in 9 indicate multiple > marriage. > > > =====================================================================> > 3)> > > > (F) 05/05/1942 1:20 CWT Red Bay, MI > > 34 32 N 88 4 W USA BC/BR in hand AA> > Asc. 10 CP 11.38 MOON:21 SG 49.52 > > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Five> > Rule-2:2nd SL is SAT in the star if SUN and sub of MER.> > SAT is in 4 l/o 1,2.SUN is in 3 l/o 8.MER is in 4 l/o 6.> > Not indicate multiple marriage.> > As per Kanak:9th SL is MER in the star of SUN and sub of KET.> > MER is CSL of 9th and no planet in the star of MER.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > ===============================================================> > (4)> > 07/06/1956 22:40 EDT Morristown, NJ > > 40 47 N 74 28 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA> > Asc. 27 SG 00.15 MOON:13 TA 15.17> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages At least nine> > Rule-2: 2nd SL is SAT in the star and sub of own.> > SAT is in 10 l/o 2. Not indicate multiple mariage.> > As per Kanak: VEN in the star of RAH and sub of KET.> > VEN is in dual rasi Mithuna, in 6 l/o 5,10.RAH is in > 11.> > Indicate multiple marriage.> > ==================================================================> > 5)> > > > 15/03/1941 10:55 PST Los Angeles, CA > > 34 4 N 118 15 W USA Quoted BC/BR AA > > Asc. 02 Ge 48.02 MOON: 03 LI 52.12> > Heading / Item Notes> > Relationship:Number of Marriages Nine> > > > Rule-2: 2nd SL is MER in the star and sub of RAH.> > MER is in 9 l/o 1,2,5.RAH is in 4 , > > Not indicate multiple marraige.> > As per Kanak: 9th Sl is SAT in the star of VEN and sub of RAH.> > SAT is in 11 l/o 9,10 , VEN Conj with MER.> > ================================================================> > this five data is for sample if you need more i have nearly 100 > data, but first you check it and give your finding, and then if you > need more i will send you.> > > > hope this help> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url> (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape > {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Dear > Raichurji> > > > Even if you consider the assumed relation, which > relation is logical to consider between the two wives-> > > > If we consider 9th : her younger sister> > If we consider 2nd (as per Krishnamurtiji) : Present > wife becomes the enemy of 2nd wife.(6-8 Relation) > > > > I have personally no problem accepting 9th house as > used by Kanakji for prediction, but before that I want to satisfy > myself that the rulings given by Krishnamurtiji doesn't work.> > > > My request to you as well as Kanakji � will you > please give me few cases with DOB particulars for my own analysis?> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Friday, April 06, 2007 11:53 AM> > > > RE: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > Dear Ghosh> > > > I agree that law has changed, but the assumed relationship has > not. The 5th house, still represents your wifes 1st child, the 7th > her second, and 9th her third, though in MODERN days, it is rare to > find a 3rd child in the family. > > > > good luck> > > > > > > > Suprakash Ghosh <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > Dear Raichurji> > > > In present day context is it relevant? Now a days, > one can't marry second time by Hindu law while 1st wife is still > alive.> > > > Even if he does, the marriage is not legal and the > second wife, by law is like a keep.> > > > I also doubt if any wife will take the 2nd wife of > her husband a younger sister.> > > > Also, generally there must be some indication of > separation from his 1st wife to fructify a legal 2nd marriage.> > > > In this logic judging extramarital relation from > 9th cusp is more logical.> > > > Your valued opinion please.> > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Raichur-a-r> > Thursday, April 05, 2007 11:49 AM> > > > Re: Re: Second marriage and sublord of 7th> > > > This is in consonance with our tradition, where the 2nd wife > is considered as the younger sister of the 1st, so 9th is > acceptable. This custom was prevalent, when 2 marriages, were not > prohibited in Hindoo Society.> > > > > > > > > > feluda4u <suprakash.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Kanakji, will you please explain why you consider 9th house for > > second marriage?> > > > I searched the KP readers and found the following rulings, which > > suggests to judge 7th house & 2nd house only.> > > > 'if the lord of the sub or the lord of the cinstellation in which > the > > sublord is situated is in a dual sign or happens to be a dual > planet > > then 2nd marriage is promised.' p181,ReaderIV> > > > 'Further if the sublord of the second cusp is connected with 7th > > house, second marriage,if connected with 11th house one will keep a > > keep...'> > P146,ReaderIV> > > > Regards> > > > Suprakash> > > > , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ravi ji,> > > Look 9th SL if 9th SL is Mer or deposited in Mer star or in dual > > rasi and signifies 2,9,11, possiblity of second mariage.> > > > > > regards> > > Kanak Bosmia> > > > > > Ravi Bhide <ravirajbhide@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > If the sublord of the 7th cusp is conjoined with Mercury, is this > an> > > indication that second marriage is promised? From KP principles, > if > > the> > > 7th cusp sublord is Me or is associated with a planet in dual > sign, > > then> > > second marriage is a possibility. In the specific case I am > looking > > at,> > > none of them are in dual sign - 7th cusp sublord is Ve, in > Scorpio, > > in> > > 11 conjoined with Me, in Scorpio in 11. Does 2nd marriage look > > promising> > > in this case? The native is waiting for a divorce.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Ravi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > > Straight trees are cut first > > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Food fight? 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