Guest guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Dear jitin; since you seem to have devoted a lot towards study of budh ka bhed. kindly answer my querry; in the method/formula given to calculate budh ka bhed/ jaati swabhav, planets have been prescribed different strengths; notably sun is on top with 9/9 and 2nd place attributed to moon i.e. 8/9. rahu is at weakest 1/9; ketu second weakest 2/9. then how come rahu causes eclipse to sun and ketu to moon. regards kulbir lalkitab , " JITIN " <jitinsyal82 wrote: > > Punit ji, > > Hence you think it's not important enough to find out " budh ki tabiyat " before blaming budh for native's loss of job?? > > Also the author of lal kitab wrote 2 pages on " budh ka bedh " in 1942 edition, if lal kitab was all about picking up book and finding which house has which planet and prescribing remedies given, i am sure sir that half of india would have mastered the art. > > Sincerely > Jitin Syal > > lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jatin ji, > > > > Where it is written in Lal Kitab that we can not prescribe remedies without > > calculating " bud ka bhed/ budh ki tabiyat " , especially when we are > > prescribing remedies mentioned in Lal Kitab itself for a planet in a house? > > Do you feel that Lal Kitab author didn't know Lal Kitab by mentioning remedy > > for Budh in each house? > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:53 AM, JITIN <jitinsyal82@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Punit ji, how can you blame mercury and prescribe remedies > > > without calculating " budh ka khas bhed/budh ki tabiyat " ?? > > > > > > Awaiting your reply > > > Jitin syal > > > > > > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Punit Pandey > > > <punitp@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manni ji, > > > > > > > > I do not see any direct relationship between purchase of the house and > > > your > > > > job problem. You losing the job and buying a house are two independent > > > > events and should be treated that way. As mentioned earlier, Jupiter and > > > > Mercury seems to be creating problem and I have suggested remedies for > > > the > > > > same. > > > > > > > > I wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:07 PM, wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Punit ji, > > > > > > > > > > I have a copper coin in white thread around my kneck, this was done on > > > > > wednesday 18th November at 5.15pm. the size of the coin is 2.5cm in > > > > > diameter. > > > > > > > > > > I have a interview in the government this friday, wish me well. > > > > > > > > > > Also i have taken off the triangle which has the moti, monnga and > > > pukraj > > > > > and i have left the ruby which is in the ring in my right ring finger. > > > is > > > > > this ok. > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your help. > > > > > > > > > > But one big question, which has not been cleared - was it ok to have > > > > > purhcased a house while shani in 9th?, I have got a local pandit to do > > > shani > > > > > pooja for this. > > > > > > > > > > Was this the righ thing to do, and finally loosing the job due to > > > buying > > > > > house( shani in 9th) or was it due to Mercury as mentioned. > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your help. > > > > > > > > > > Manni. > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 17/11/09, Punit Pandey <punitp@>* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@> > > > > > > > > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house > > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40> > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 5:36 > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manni ji, > > > > > > > > > > *Please perform suggested remedies and I am very hopeful of > > > improvement.* > > > > > As > > > > > I mentioned earlier, Jupiter and Mercury are the two planets afflicted > > > in > > > > > your chart. > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion, Job is better suited to you than business. > > > > > > > > > > As you are passing through Mercury cycle who is a dual planet, I am > > > sure > > > > > that you will take a job and do business as a secondary activity. Both > > > Job > > > > > and Business will go simultaneously, but Job will become primary. > > > > > > > > > > Gemstones you are using seems OK to me. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM, <manni7rehal@< > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal@> > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pandit Punit ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your advise, few years back my parents got me to wear > > > a > > > > > > rubyin gold on my right hand ring finger, also a gold triangle which > > > has > > > > > a > > > > > > moti, pukraj and moonga in it, at the bottom of the triangle there is > > > a > > > > > rud > > > > > > raksh - is this ok? > > > > > > > > > > > > My father health is not well and my mother is not well either. > > > > > > I do not have probles with speaking, I had a operation in my right > > > leg, > > > > > > vericose veins. > > > > > > > > > > > > Something strange is happening - I lost my job in august, but in at > > > the > > > > > > begiing of october I had submitted a quotation for a mainetenance > > > > > contract, > > > > > > on my birhday the contract was acceped and the work has started, the > > > > > > money is very little, but a profile for my tiny company can start, > > > but > > > > > this > > > > > > is no were near the money i was on before and also cannot support my > > > > > family. > > > > > > I have been looking for a job also. > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you advice me job or business , if job when do you think I > > > might > > > > > > get it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your help once again > > > > > > > > > > > > Manni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Mon, 16/11/09, Punit Pandey <>* wrote:punitp@< > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp@> > > > > > <wrote%3Apunitp@< > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=3Apunitp@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@< > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th > > > house > > > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>< > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 15:21 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manni ji, > > > > > > As I mentioned earlier Mercury is the root cause of your problem. > > > Till > > > > > the > > > > > > time we understand the root cause, we cannot come up with the > > > solution. > > > > > In > > > > > > your birth chart, Mercury is in 11th house. 11th house is influenced > > > by > > > > > > Jupiter (elderly people) and Saturn (Job, house etc.). If Mercury > > > will be > > > > > > affected it will in turn affect these two planets. You have seen your > > > job > > > > > > affected this year. You got the indication through your maser ji > > > visiting > > > > > > your place at the same time and your trouble started. As you know > > > Mercury > > > > > > represents maser ji in Indian astrology. > > > > > > Mercury's fixed cycle starts from 33rd year of your age and you are > > > in > > > > > its > > > > > > influence. On top of that during 34th year, planets from 11th house > > > get > > > > > the > > > > > > first house which is called Takht in Lal Kitab and becomes very > > > powerful. > > > > > > Which means that Mercury will affect Jupiter and Saturn even more > > > badly. > > > > > > Generally Saturn is friendly to Mercury, but being in the house of > > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > > it is not sparing Saturn as well. > > > > > > In my opinion, you need remedy for Jupiter and Mercury in your chart. > > > > > > Perform following remedies – > > > > > > 1. Sun is friendly to Mercury and Jupiter and also goes OK with > > > Saturn > > > > > due > > > > > > to father-son relationship. So in your case, wearing copper coin > > > around > > > > > > your > > > > > > neck should work wonderfully. Try it and I am hopeful that it will > > > reduce > > > > > > your problem to some extent. We cannot always solve problems with > > > > > remedies, > > > > > > but yours is a case where remedies do have potential. > > > > > > If you are wearing any Tabeez, you should remove that. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Coming to Jupiter, in your case Moon could have supported Jupiter. > > > > > Moon > > > > > > in 8th house doesn't look strong enough to me that can support > > > Jupiter. > > > > > So > > > > > > situation is a little tricky here. Some of the ways by which you can > > > give > > > > > > Moon's support to Jupiter is by taking bath in rain or wearing silver > > > on > > > > > > your body. Though I am not very confident of this remedy because of > > > > > Moon's > > > > > > placement. Though no harm in trying, in my opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > You should perform above two remedies and only after this, perform > > > any > > > > > > remedy for varshphal as it seems that root cause is there in your > > > birth > > > > > > chart and not in annual chart. > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > Wish you all the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: Do you have any problem in speaking? Your father is having health > > > > > > problems especially related to respiratory system? Do you got any > > > health > > > > > > related problem recently? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:48 PM, <manni7rehal@< > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal@> > > > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal@> > > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Punit Pandit ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was looking to move from my job back in march, when i had an > > > > > interview > > > > > > > and got the offer of the job, due to a very bad reference from my > > > > > > previous > > > > > > > emplyer the offer was withdrawn and my position from the present > > > job > > > > > was > > > > > > > made to senior from manager. i was getting bored, really bored, > > > then > > > > > in > > > > > > mid > > > > > > > june a something that i forgot to do last year( replace a battery > > > in a > > > > > > > medical device) was picked up by a audit person, this then later > > > led to > > > > > > > suspension and by end of august i had to resign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > since august 2009, i have been looking for a job, in te mean time i > > > > > have > > > > > > > managed to start a small company, i have one contract, we are due > > > to > > > > > > start > > > > > > > work this week, but as a family man i need to have a regualr > > > income. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the purchase of the was helped by my mum and dad, who gave me some > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > money to put down as deposit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and yes, my maser ji cam in begining of june and left mid August. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The astrologer also tells me that the job was lost due to sun and > > > shani > > > > > > > moving forward in varshapl, ie shani going into my 11th house and > > > sun > > > > > > moving > > > > > > > from my 8th house? is this true, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am really concerned with my job, please help- should shani be > > > good in > > > > > > my > > > > > > > 11th house now, and will jupitor also be good in my 4th house- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks to all who help me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@< > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@> > > > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@> > > > > > > > > > <kulbirbains%40.co.in>> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir <kulbirbains@< > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@> > > > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@ > > > > > > > > ><kulbirbains% > > > > > > 40.co.in>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house > > > > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>< > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab > > > > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab > > > > > ><lalkitab% > > > > > > 40> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 9:16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin; > > > > > > > manni asked, did his aquisition of house led to his financial > > > downfall, > > > > > > he > > > > > > > interprtetted it as loss of job; so reply is in that contect only. > > > > > > > yes i know > > > > > > > ''chandra dhan shanichar khazanchi hota hai'' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i am not claiming anything i am just quoting what the book says, i > > > gave > > > > > > you > > > > > > > the context to look into. > > > > > > > wealth means stock, job means source of income, i.e. addition to > > > stock. > > > > > > > loss of job means loss of source of income i.e. wealth comes under > > > > > > duress. > > > > > > > hope this clarifies. > > > > > > > shani is not exclusively assigned the job of bache khaane in 5th > > > house, > > > > > > it > > > > > > > has various other aspects also. please go through the book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > various types of jobs comes under different planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pt ji didn't place saturn on 9 on any special pedestal, do raangi > > > chal, > > > > > > dos > > > > > > > and donot are prescribed for it like every other planet in other > > > > > > 12houses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel sorry that you don't have enough time at your disposal, but > > > then > > > > > > > with such a busy schedule please don't issue edicts on senstive > > > matters > > > > > > like > > > > > > > tewa darusti. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if u get time please let me know how it is typical of native with > > > > > saturn > > > > > > 1o > > > > > > > constructing a house and losing a job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i will definetely try my level best to help manni but he is not > > > > > > > participating; > > > > > > > may be i stopped his tewa from being rectified, hope you understand > > > > > what > > > > > > i > > > > > > > mean. > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my thoughts?? > > > > > > > > well, i am still confused as to since when a " bache khaane waala > > > > > saap " > > > > > > > > became a " naukri khane waale saap " ?? as far as your claims of > > > malefic > > > > > > > > saturn in 5 goes (about destroying wealth). i am sure you would > > > know > > > > > > > > that in LK wealth and job are 2 completely different things ruled > > > by > > > > > 2 > > > > > > > > completely different planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > secondly if we look at the varshphal chart then > > > > > > > > ketu-3, saturn-5, jupiter-9 and rahu-11..... ......... ...... do > > > i > > > > > need > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > say more about whether this shani would be benefic or malefic?? > > > > > > > > now if we take saturn in 10 in janam kundli, then sun 4 and shani > > > 7 > > > > > (in > > > > > > > > 33rd year varshphal chart) will explain the whole situation to > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > above all Pt. ji has praised shani 9 in all fields of native's > > > life > > > > > in > > > > > > > > all the editions, he wrote similar things for shani 10 too but at > > > the > > > > > > > > same time has warned that shani 10 has tendency to go evil if > > > > > conjoined > > > > > > > > by enemy (sun11). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i still consider you a learned individual so please keep sharing > > > your > > > > > > > > knowledge. i wish i had more spare time on my hand to actually > > > > > > > > participate more but unfortunately i can't, i wish you all the > > > best > > > > > in > > > > > > > > helping this native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it > > > for > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo > > > > > taraf > > > > > > > > maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA > > > HAAL > > > > > > HOGA > > > > > > > > JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI > > > HOGI > > > > > > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI > > > MAIDAAN > > > > > > SAB > > > > > > > > KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI'' > > > > > > > > > for further explanation > > > > > > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE > > > KI > > > > > > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL > > > HAR > > > > > > TARAH > > > > > > > > SE MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA > > > HI > > > > > > UMADA > > > > > > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd > > > year.plus > > > > > > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm > > > one's > > > > > > job > > > > > > > > if he constructs a house.? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain > > > that > > > > > > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move > > > planets > > > > > at > > > > > > > > will. it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, > > > that > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > don't know from the posted message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now what are your thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " jitinsyal82@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > respected kulbit paaji, > > > > > > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you > > > > > asked > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm > > > someone's > > > > > > > > job?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli > > > mein > > > > > > > > khana > > > > > > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf > > > maar > > > > > > > > karta > > > > > > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of > > > why > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > 33rd year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, > > > and > > > > > > > > neither > > > > > > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after > > > > > > > > constructing a > > > > > > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal > > > umda " > > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets > > > assume) > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu > > > > > ketu's > > > > > > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring > > > such > > > > > > > > > > adversities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what's your thoughts?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 > > > nov > > > > > > > > 1976, it > > > > > > > > > > means in his 33rd running year. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. > > > even > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in > > > house no > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > varshphal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that > > > > > could > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is there to rectify? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manni sahib, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your > > > chart > > > > > > > > might > > > > > > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance > > > shows > > > > > > > > signs of > > > > > > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people > > > with > > > > > > > > shani 9 > > > > > > > > > > struggling in their life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards and all the best > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years > > > of > > > > > > > > age. > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told > > > that i > > > > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that > > > why > > > > > i > > > > > > > > lost > > > > > > > > > > ,my job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am > > > very > > > > > > > > > > confused. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76 > > > > > > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am > > > > > > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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