Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Dear friends, I was reading an article of Suman Pandit in a news paper (ref the attachment),she states that as per LK rules if Saturn is in 11th house & if the third house is vacant,Saturn will not be beneficiary until unless some plant can be placed in third house,off course, the friend one. Can you elaborate how & which planet is to be placed at 3rd house to make Saturn beneficiary ? In my son's chart: 1st House - Mars & Rahu IInd - Sun,Venus & Merc IIIrd - Vacant IV - Vacant V - Vacant VI - Vacant VII-Ketu VIII-Vacant IX -Vacant X-Moon XI- Jup & Saturn Regards, (Arun ) Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Dear Arun ji, You should try to solve the problem only if you feel that there is a problem and not because you read something in some article. If you will take medicine of a disease which doesn't exists, most you will get is side-effects. Similarly you should note that some of the Lal Kitab remedies can backfire and can harm if done unnecessarily. According to Lal Kitab if there is no planet in 3rd house, planet in 11th house will be sleeping. By sleeping it means that it will not be able to give its effect. Now a Lal Kitab astrologer should first judge whether Saturn is actually malefic or benefice in the chart by analysing the chart based on Lal Kitab principles. Lal Kitab astrologer should also need to see whether there is any need to wake the planet up? If the planet is benefic then only it makes sense to wake-up that planet. If the planet is malefic, waking that planet up means it will brings malefic effect to life. Generally a planet wakes up by itself at perticular time e.g. Venus will wake up if somebody marries. So it may also not requrie to wake-up any planet by following Lal Kitab procedure. Also if we are waking up any planet, we should note that we are using some friendly planet. In your example, Saturn is in 11th. Mercury, Venus and Rahu are the planets that are friendly to Saturn. A Lal Kitab astrologer must see which planet is most appropriate according to a chart and suggest procedure accordingly. Summing up, you need to do anything only if you are facing any problem. That too, I would suggest you to consult a good Lal Kitab astrologer who can figure out above stated effects and suggests something accordingly. Statement quoted by you from the article seems misleading to me for the general public as it has written without the detail of the full context. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:56 PM, choti kumar <k_choti_chotiwrote: > Dear friends, > I was reading an article of Suman Pandit in a news paper (ref the > attachment),she states that as per LK rules if Saturn is in 11th house & if > the third house is vacant,Saturn will not be beneficiary until unless some > plant can be placed in third house,off course, the friend one. > > Can you elaborate how & which planet is to be placed at 3rd house > to make Saturn beneficiary ? > > In my son's chart: > > 1st House - Mars & Rahu > > IInd - Sun,Venus & Merc > > IIIrd - Vacant > > IV - Vacant > > V - Vacant > > VI - Vacant > > VII-Ketu > > VIII-Vacant > > IX -Vacant > > X-Moon > > XI- Jup & Saturn > > Regards, > > (Arun ) > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger./invite/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 dear Arun ji can you pl attach the article you refer to so that the reference to context is clear to all and also to know that you are quoting correctly. Sharat --- On Mon, 30/3/09, choti kumar <k_choti_choti wrote: choti kumar <k_choti_choti [lalkitab] Lalkitab-Vacant house. lalkitab Monday, 30 March, 2009, 12:56 PM Dear friends, I was reading an article of Suman Pandit in a news paper (ref the attachment), she states that as per LK rules if Saturn is in 11th house & if the third house is vacant,Saturn will not be beneficiary until unless some plant can be placed in third house,off course, the friend one. Can you elaborate how & which planet is to be placed at 3rd house to make Saturn beneficiary ? In my son's chart: 1st House - Mars & Rahu IInd - Sun,Venus & Merc IIIrd - Vacant IV - Vacant V - Vacant VI - Vacant VII-Ketu VIII-Vacant IX -Vacant X-Moon XI- Jup & Saturn Regards, (Arun ) Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. / invite/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 Afermatice !! Punitg Explanation was a good one.Being technical & maths students,I am trying to explore more out of the LK & discussion thro' forum will increase the depth of exploration. As Mr Sharat has asked for the attachment,again attaching the same. Have a nice year ending (FY). Arun ________________________________ Punit Pandey <punitp lalkitab Monday, 30 March, 2009 2:19:19 PM Re: [lalkitab] Lalkitab-Vacant house. Dear Arun ji, You should try to solve the problem only if you feel that there is a problem and not because you read something in some article. If you will take medicine of a disease which doesn't exists, most you will get is side-effects. Similarly you should note that some of the Lal Kitab remedies can backfire and can harm if done unnecessarily. According to Lal Kitab if there is no planet in 3rd house, planet in 11th house will be sleeping. By sleeping it means that it will not be able to give its effect. Now a Lal Kitab astrologer should first judge whether Saturn is actually malefic or benefice in the chart by analysing the chart based on Lal Kitab principles. Lal Kitab astrologer should also need to see whether there is any need to wake the planet up? If the planet is benefic then only it makes sense to wake-up that planet. If the planet is malefic, waking that planet up means it will brings malefic effect to life. Generally a planet wakes up by itself at perticular time e.g. Venus will wake up if somebody marries. So it may also not requrie to wake-up any planet by following Lal Kitab procedure. Also if we are waking up any planet, we should note that we are using some friendly planet. In your example, Saturn is in 11th. Mercury, Venus and Rahu are the planets that are friendly to Saturn. A Lal Kitab astrologer must see which planet is most appropriate according to a chart and suggest procedure accordingly. Summing up, you need to do anything only if you are facing any problem. That too, I would suggest you to consult a good Lal Kitab astrologer who can figure out above stated effects and suggests something accordingly. Statement quoted by you from the article seems misleading to me for the general public as it has written without the detail of the full context. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:56 PM, choti kumar <k_choti_choti@ .co. in>wrote: > Dear friends, > I was reading an article of Suman Pandit in a news paper (ref the > attachment), she states that as per LK rules if Saturn is in 11th house & if > the third house is vacant,Saturn will not be beneficiary until unless some > plant can be placed in third house,off course, the friend one. > > Can you elaborate how & which planet is to be placed at 3rd house > to make Saturn beneficiary ? > > In my son's chart: > > 1st House - Mars & Rahu > > IInd - Sun,Venus & Merc > > IIIrd - Vacant > > IV - Vacant > > V - Vacant > > VI - Vacant > > VII-Ketu > > VIII-Vacant > > IX -Vacant > > X-Moon > > XI- Jup & Saturn > > Regards, > > (Arun ) > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 dear sir i donot agree that if no planet exists in 3rd house then planet in 11th house wil be sleeping .in my case that3rd house is vacant and in 11th house there is moon existing . pl guide me lalkitab k_choti_choti Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:32:12 +0530 Re: [lalkitab] Lalkitab-Vacant house. Afermatice !! Punitg Explanation was a good one.Being technical & maths students,I am trying to explore more out of the LK & discussion thro' forum will increase the depth of exploration. As Mr Sharat has asked for the attachment,again attaching the same. Have a nice year ending (FY). Arun ________________________________ Punit Pandey <punitp lalkitab Monday, 30 March, 2009 2:19:19 PM Re: [lalkitab] Lalkitab-Vacant house. Dear Arun ji, You should try to solve the problem only if you feel that there is a problem and not because you read something in some article. If you will take medicine of a disease which doesn't exists, most you will get is side-effects. Similarly you should note that some of the Lal Kitab remedies can backfire and can harm if done unnecessarily. According to Lal Kitab if there is no planet in 3rd house, planet in 11th house will be sleeping. By sleeping it means that it will not be able to give its effect. Now a Lal Kitab astrologer should first judge whether Saturn is actually malefic or benefice in the chart by analysing the chart based on Lal Kitab principles. Lal Kitab astrologer should also need to see whether there is any need to wake the planet up? If the planet is benefic then only it makes sense to wake-up that planet. If the planet is malefic, waking that planet up means it will brings malefic effect to life. Generally a planet wakes up by itself at perticular time e.g. Venus will wake up if somebody marries. So it may also not requrie to wake-up any planet by following Lal Kitab procedure. Also if we are waking up any planet, we should note that we are using some friendly planet. In your example, Saturn is in 11th. Mercury, Venus and Rahu are the planets that are friendly to Saturn. A Lal Kitab astrologer must see which planet is most appropriate according to a chart and suggest procedure accordingly. Summing up, you need to do anything only if you are facing any problem. That too, I would suggest you to consult a good Lal Kitab astrologer who can figure out above stated effects and suggests something accordingly. Statement quoted by you from the article seems misleading to me for the general public as it has written without the detail of the full context. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:56 PM, choti kumar <k_choti_choti@ .co. in>wrote: > Dear friends, > I was reading an article of Suman Pandit in a news paper (ref the > attachment), she states that as per LK rules if Saturn is in 11th house & if > the third house is vacant,Saturn will not be beneficiary until unless some > plant can be placed in third house,off course, the friend one. > > Can you elaborate how & which planet is to be placed at 3rd house > to make Saturn beneficiary ? > > In my son's chart: > > 1st House - Mars & Rahu > > IInd - Sun,Venus & Merc > > IIIrd - Vacant > > IV - Vacant > > V - Vacant > > VI - Vacant > > VII-Ketu > > VIII-Vacant > > IX -Vacant > > X-Moon > > XI- Jup & Saturn > > Regards, > > (Arun ) > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to > http://messenger. / invite/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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