Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 All, I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to remedies. What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is primarily based on Palmistry. I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me that astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major emphasis. Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to be based on originals and all landing in confusion. Would like to hear from you all. Thanks Asheesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Dear Asheesh ji, Almost all editions of Lal Kitab talk about palmistry. The first edition (1939) is based on palmistry only. A transliteration of 1939 edition has been done by Shri Benimadhav Goswami and published by Sagar publications. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Asheesh Mathur <asheesh.mathurwrote: > All, > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > remedies. > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > primarily based on Palmistry. > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me that > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major > emphasis. > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to be > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > > Would like to hear from you all. > > Thanks > Asheesh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Asheesh ji, Complete Astro Palmistry by L.R.Chawdhri published by sagar publications is the book that u r missing. Regards. Kulbir. On 2/13/09, Asheesh Mathur <asheesh.mathur wrote: > All, > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > remedies. > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > primarily based on Palmistry. > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me that > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major > emphasis. > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to be > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > > Would like to hear from you all. > > Thanks > Asheesh > > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Thanks Kulbir for the suggestion, I have this book, will revisit it again to find hidden pearls. Asheesh lalkitab , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Asheesh ji, Complete Astro Palmistry by L.R.Chawdhri published by > sagar publications is the book that u r missing. Regards. Kulbir. > > On 2/13/09, Asheesh Mathur <asheesh.mathur wrote: > > All, > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > > remedies. > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > > primarily based on Palmistry. > > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me that > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major > > emphasis. > > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to be > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > > > > Would like to hear from you all. > > > > Thanks > > Asheesh > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Thanks Punit, I have a copy of the Lal Kitab published by Sagar, however its primarily based on astrology ...Sun in X house , Moon in y house and so on. Have they come up with another edition , explicitly based on Palmistry. Thanks Asheesh lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > > Dear Asheesh ji, > > Almost all editions of Lal Kitab talk about palmistry. The first edition > (1939) is based on palmistry only. A transliteration of 1939 edition has > been done by Shri Benimadhav Goswami and published by Sagar publications. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Asheesh Mathur > <asheesh.mathurwrote: > > > All, > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > > remedies. > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > > primarily based on Palmistry. > > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me that > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major > > emphasis. > > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to be > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > > > > Would like to hear from you all. > > > > Thanks > > Asheesh > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 This is " Lal Kitab Ke Farmaan " (also called 1939 edition of Lal Kitab) in Hindi published by Himanchal Publications and distributed by Sagar Publications. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Asheesh Mathur <asheesh.mathurwrote: > Thanks Punit, I have a copy of the Lal Kitab published by Sagar, > however its primarily based on astrology ...Sun in X house , Moon in > y house and so on. > > Have they come up with another edition , explicitly based on > Palmistry. > > Thanks > Asheesh > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Punit Pandey > <punitp wrote: > > > > Dear Asheesh ji, > > > > Almost all editions of Lal Kitab talk about palmistry. The first > edition > > (1939) is based on palmistry only. A transliteration of 1939 > edition has > > been done by Shri Benimadhav Goswami and published by Sagar > publications. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Asheesh Mathur > > <asheesh.mathurwrote: > > > > > All, > > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > > > remedies. > > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > > > primarily based on Palmistry. > > > > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me > that > > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition > > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > > > > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major > > > emphasis. > > > > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > > > > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to > be > > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > > > > > > Would like to hear from you all. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Asheesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Dear Asheesh Ji, can you name a standard LK Book in English Madhavan- -- In lalkitab , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Asheesh ji, Complete Astro Palmistry by L.R.Chawdhri published by > sagar publications is the book that u r missing. Regards. Kulbir. > > On 2/13/09, Asheesh Mathur <asheesh.mathur wrote: > > All, > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > > remedies. > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > > primarily based on Palmistry. > > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me that > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major > > emphasis. > > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to be > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > > > > Would like to hear from you all. > > > > Thanks > > Asheesh > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dear All: I have a copy of the 3 volume book of LalKitab 1952 whose photocopy is being sold in the Black market at Rs. 2100.00.This I suppose relies on Palmistry. Sincerely Dr.S.K.Chakarvarti Professor and Ex-Chairman Department of Physics ( & Instrumentation) National Institute of Technology(Institution of National Importance) Kurukshetra,India PIN:136 119 Tel:(O)+91-1744-233495 and ®+91-1744-238531 Fax:+91-1744-238050 Mobile:09896217653 Alternative e-mails: skchakarvarti skchakarvarti skchakarvarti skchakarvarti skchakarvarti skchakarvarti skchakarvarti On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > This is " Lal Kitab Ke Farmaan " (also called 1939 edition of Lal Kitab) > in > Hindi published by Himanchal Publications and distributed by Sagar > Publications. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Asheesh Mathur > <asheesh.mathur <asheesh.mathur%40gmail.com>>wrote: > > > Thanks Punit, I have a copy of the Lal Kitab published by Sagar, > > however its primarily based on astrology ...Sun in X house , Moon in > > y house and so on. > > > > Have they come up with another edition , explicitly based on > > Palmistry. > > > > Thanks > > Asheesh > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40> <lalkitab% > 40>, Punit Pandey > > <punitp wrote: > > > > > > Dear Asheesh ji, > > > > > > Almost all editions of Lal Kitab talk about palmistry. The first > > edition > > > (1939) is based on palmistry only. A transliteration of 1939 > > edition has > > > been done by Shri Benimadhav Goswami and published by Sagar > > publications. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Asheesh Mathur > > > <asheesh.mathurwrote: > > > > > > > All, > > > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > > > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > > > > remedies. > > > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > > > > primarily based on Palmistry. > > > > > > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me > > that > > > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > > > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition > > > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > > > > > > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major > > > > emphasis. > > > > > > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > > > > > > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to > > be > > > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > > > > > > > > Would like to hear from you all. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Asheesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Sir, truth is that it is based on amalgmation of astrology, vaastu, prevailing conditions, objects under command of native and intutive capapcity of the astrologer. Palmistry is only a small portion which is ignorable. Kulbir. On 2/16/09, Prof.S.K. Chakarvarti <skchakarvarti wrote: > Dear All: > I have a copy of the 3 volume book of LalKitab 1952 whose photocopy is being > sold in the Black market at Rs. 2100.00.This I suppose relies on Palmistry. > Sincerely > Dr.S.K.Chakarvarti > Professor and Ex-Chairman > Department of Physics > ( & Instrumentation) > National Institute of Technology(Institution of National Importance) > Kurukshetra,India > PIN:136 119 > Tel:(O)+91-1744-233495 and ®+91-1744-238531 > Fax:+91-1744-238050 > Mobile:09896217653 > Alternative e-mails: > skchakarvarti > skchakarvarti > skchakarvarti > skchakarvarti > skchakarvarti > skchakarvarti > skchakarvarti > > > > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > >> This is " Lal Kitab Ke Farmaan " (also called 1939 edition of Lal Kitab) >> in >> Hindi published by Himanchal Publications and distributed by Sagar >> Publications. >> >> Thanks & Regards, >> >> Punit Pandey >> >> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Asheesh Mathur >> <asheesh.mathur <asheesh.mathur%40gmail.com>>wrote: >> >> > Thanks Punit, I have a copy of the Lal Kitab published by Sagar, >> > however its primarily based on astrology ...Sun in X house , Moon in >> > y house and so on. >> > >> > Have they come up with another edition , explicitly based on >> > Palmistry. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Asheesh >> > >> > lalkitab <lalkitab%40> <lalkitab% >> 40>, Punit Pandey >> > <punitp wrote: >> > > >> > > Dear Asheesh ji, >> > > >> > > Almost all editions of Lal Kitab talk about palmistry. The first >> > edition >> > > (1939) is based on palmistry only. A transliteration of 1939 >> > edition has >> > > been done by Shri Benimadhav Goswami and published by Sagar >> > publications. >> > > >> > > Thanks & Regards, >> > > >> > > Punit Pandey >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Asheesh Mathur >> > > <asheesh.mathurwrote: >> > > >> > > > All, >> > > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), >> > > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to >> > > > remedies. >> > > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is >> > > > primarily based on Palmistry. >> > > > >> > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me >> > that >> > > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different >> > > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition >> > > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. >> > > > >> > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major >> > > > emphasis. >> > > > >> > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. >> > > > >> > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to >> > be >> > > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. >> > > > >> > > > Would like to hear from you all. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks >> > > > Asheesh >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Sir, as ur bio data gives u r master of physics. Relate this book to quantum physics. It will be a fantastic experience. On 2/16/09, Prof.S.K. Chakarvarti <skchakarvarti wrote: > Dear All: > I have a copy of the 3 volume book of LalKitab 1952 whose photocopy is being > sold in the Black market at Rs. 2100.00.This I suppose relies on Palmistry. > Sincerely > Dr.S.K.Chakarvarti > Professor and Ex-Chairman > Department of Physics > ( & Instrumentation) > National Institute of Technology(Institution of National Importance) > Kurukshetra,India > PIN:136 119 > Tel:(O)+91-1744-233495 and ®+91-1744-238531 > Fax:+91-1744-238050 > Mobile:09896217653 > Alternative e-mails: > skchakarvarti > skchakarvarti > skchakarvarti > skchakarvarti > skchakarvarti > skchakarvarti > skchakarvarti > > > > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > >> This is " Lal Kitab Ke Farmaan " (also called 1939 edition of Lal Kitab) >> in >> Hindi published by Himanchal Publications and distributed by Sagar >> Publications. >> >> Thanks & Regards, >> >> Punit Pandey >> >> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Asheesh Mathur >> <asheesh.mathur <asheesh.mathur%40gmail.com>>wrote: >> >> > Thanks Punit, I have a copy of the Lal Kitab published by Sagar, >> > however its primarily based on astrology ...Sun in X house , Moon in >> > y house and so on. >> > >> > Have they come up with another edition , explicitly based on >> > Palmistry. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Asheesh >> > >> > lalkitab <lalkitab%40> <lalkitab% >> 40>, Punit Pandey >> > <punitp wrote: >> > > >> > > Dear Asheesh ji, >> > > >> > > Almost all editions of Lal Kitab talk about palmistry. The first >> > edition >> > > (1939) is based on palmistry only. A transliteration of 1939 >> > edition has >> > > been done by Shri Benimadhav Goswami and published by Sagar >> > publications. >> > > >> > > Thanks & Regards, >> > > >> > > Punit Pandey >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Asheesh Mathur >> > > <asheesh.mathurwrote: >> > > >> > > > All, >> > > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), >> > > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to >> > > > remedies. >> > > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is >> > > > primarily based on Palmistry. >> > > > >> > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me >> > that >> > > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different >> > > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition >> > > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. >> > > > >> > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major >> > > > emphasis. >> > > > >> > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. >> > > > >> > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to >> > be >> > > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. >> > > > >> > > > Would like to hear from you all. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks >> > > > Asheesh >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Though I am yet to find an authentic Lal Kitab (purely based on Palmistry), however Lal Kitab by Pt. Vashisth & Pt. Goswami , published by Sagar Publications (Rs. 500) is a better bet, its in english. Once again, intuition and blessings are more important when it comes to interpretation and predictions. Thanks Asheesh lalkitab , " Madhavan " <chims45 wrote: > > Dear Asheesh Ji, > can you name a standard LK Book in English > > Madhavan- > > > > -- In lalkitab , kulbir bance <kulbirbance@> wrote: > > > > Asheesh ji, Complete Astro Palmistry by L.R.Chawdhri published by > > sagar publications is the book that u r missing. Regards. Kulbir. > > > > On 2/13/09, Asheesh Mathur <asheesh.mathur@> wrote: > > > All, > > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > > > remedies. > > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > > > primarily based on Palmistry. > > > > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me > that > > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition > > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > > > > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major > > > emphasis. > > > > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > > > > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to > be > > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > > > > > > Would like to hear from you all. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Asheesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my mobile device > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear Kulbir ji, Your statement that " Palmistry is only a small portion which is ignorable. " seems strange to me. The fact, the first edition (1939 edition) was based on palmistry only. In all the examples given in Lal Kitab " Vishay ke Sahayak Kuch Udhaharan " , chart based on palm has been given equal importance as birth chart. In my opinion, Lal Kitab is the only book available book of present time that dealt with Astro-Palmistry with that level of detail. Other books like book by L. R. Chawdhary and R.G. Rao are just at surface level if we compare them with Lal Kitab. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:57 PM, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > Sir, truth is that it is based on amalgmation of astrology, vaastu, > prevailing conditions, objects under command of native and intutive > capapcity of the astrologer. Palmistry is only a small portion which > is ignorable. Kulbir. > > > On 2/16/09, Prof.S.K. Chakarvarti <skchakarvarti<skchakarvarti%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > Dear All: > > I have a copy of the 3 volume book of LalKitab 1952 whose photocopy is > being > > sold in the Black market at Rs. 2100.00.This I suppose relies on > Palmistry. > > Sincerely > > Dr.S.K.Chakarvarti > > Professor and Ex-Chairman > > Department of Physics > > ( & Instrumentation) > > National Institute of Technology(Institution of National Importance) > > Kurukshetra,India > > PIN:136 119 > > Tel:(O)+91-1744-233495 and ®+91-1744-238531 > > Fax:+91-1744-238050 > > Mobile:09896217653 > > Alternative e-mails: > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40aol.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40.co.in> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40hotmail.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40rediffmail.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40usa.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40indiatimes.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40in.com> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp<punitp%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > >> This is " Lal Kitab Ke Farmaan " (also called 1939 edition of Lal Kitab) > >> in > >> Hindi published by Himanchal Publications and distributed by Sagar > >> Publications. > >> > >> Thanks & Regards, > >> > >> Punit Pandey > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Asheesh Mathur > >> <asheesh.mathur <asheesh.mathur%40gmail.com> <asheesh.mathur% > 40gmail.com>>wrote: > >> > >> > Thanks Punit, I have a copy of the Lal Kitab published by Sagar, > >> > however its primarily based on astrology ...Sun in X house , Moon in > >> > y house and so on. > >> > > >> > Have they come up with another edition , explicitly based on > >> > Palmistry. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > Asheesh > >> > > >> > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><lalkitab% > 40> <lalkitab% > >> 40>, Punit Pandey > >> > <punitp wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Dear Asheesh ji, > >> > > > >> > > Almost all editions of Lal Kitab talk about palmistry. The first > >> > edition > >> > > (1939) is based on palmistry only. A transliteration of 1939 > >> > edition has > >> > > been done by Shri Benimadhav Goswami and published by Sagar > >> > publications. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks & Regards, > >> > > > >> > > Punit Pandey > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Asheesh Mathur > >> > > <asheesh.mathurwrote: > >> > > > >> > > > All, > >> > > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > >> > > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > >> > > > remedies. > >> > > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > >> > > > primarily based on Palmistry. > >> > > > > >> > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me > >> > that > >> > > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > >> > > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition > >> > > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > >> > > > > >> > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major > >> > > > emphasis. > >> > > > > >> > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > >> > > > > >> > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to > >> > be > >> > > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > >> > > > > >> > > > Would like to hear from you all. > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks > >> > > > Asheesh > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear Kulbir Ji: Thanks for your observation and comments. May I narrate a real incidence. Niels Bohr- a noble prize holder in physics, had a horse shoe nail stamped upon the entrance of his house. Some visitor friend made a comment- " Bohr! You are a scientist but still believe in superstitions " . The scientist replied, " I do not know. But it works! " To me it looks, our present knowledge of science is limited and we should not brand every other thing a superstition if it can not be evaluated and analyzed on the basis of presently known laws of science! Sincerely Dr.S.K.Chakarvarti Professor and Ex-Chairman Department of Physics ( & Instrumentation) National Institute of Technology(Institution of National Importance) Kurukshetra,India PIN:136 119 Tel:(O)+91-1744-233495 and ®+91-1744-238531 Fax:+91-1744-238050 Mobile:09896217653 Alternative e-mails: skchakarvarti skchakarvarti skchakarvarti skchakarvarti skchakarvarti skchakarvarti skchakarvarti On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:38 PM, kulbir bance <kulbirbancewrote: > Sir, as ur bio data gives u r master of physics. Relate this book to > quantum physics. It will be a fantastic experience. > > On 2/16/09, Prof.S.K. Chakarvarti <skchakarvarti<skchakarvarti%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > Dear All: > > I have a copy of the 3 volume book of LalKitab 1952 whose photocopy is > being > > sold in the Black market at Rs. 2100.00.This I suppose relies on > Palmistry. > > Sincerely > > Dr.S.K.Chakarvarti > > Professor and Ex-Chairman > > Department of Physics > > ( & Instrumentation) > > National Institute of Technology(Institution of National Importance) > > Kurukshetra,India > > PIN:136 119 > > Tel:(O)+91-1744-233495 and ®+91-1744-238531 > > Fax:+91-1744-238050 > > Mobile:09896217653 > > Alternative e-mails: > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40aol.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40.co.in> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40hotmail.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40rediffmail.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40usa.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40indiatimes.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40in.com> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp<punitp%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > >> This is " Lal Kitab Ke Farmaan " (also called 1939 edition of Lal Kitab) > >> in > >> Hindi published by Himanchal Publications and distributed by Sagar > >> Publications. > >> > >> Thanks & Regards, > >> > >> Punit Pandey > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Asheesh Mathur > >> <asheesh.mathur <asheesh.mathur%40gmail.com> <asheesh.mathur% > 40gmail.com>>wrote: > >> > >> > Thanks Punit, I have a copy of the Lal Kitab published by Sagar, > >> > however its primarily based on astrology ...Sun in X house , Moon in > >> > y house and so on. > >> > > >> > Have they come up with another edition , explicitly based on > >> > Palmistry. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > Asheesh > >> > > >> > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><lalkitab% > 40> <lalkitab% > >> 40>, Punit Pandey > >> > <punitp wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Dear Asheesh ji, > >> > > > >> > > Almost all editions of Lal Kitab talk about palmistry. The first > >> > edition > >> > > (1939) is based on palmistry only. A transliteration of 1939 > >> > edition has > >> > > been done by Shri Benimadhav Goswami and published by Sagar > >> > publications. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks & Regards, > >> > > > >> > > Punit Pandey > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Asheesh Mathur > > >> > > <asheesh.mathurwrote: > >> > > > >> > > > All, > >> > > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > >> > > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > >> > > > remedies. > >> > > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > >> > > > primarily based on Palmistry. > >> > > > > >> > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me > >> > that > >> > > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > >> > > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition > >> > > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > >> > > > > >> > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major > >> > > > emphasis. > >> > > > > >> > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > >> > > > > >> > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to > >> > be > >> > > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > >> > > > > >> > > > Would like to hear from you all. > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks > >> > > > Asheesh > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear Punitji , As you know in our KP astrology no remidies are given for sorting or reducing the bad effect of kundli . In lalkitab it is there , if we go with lalkitab & suggest some upay , will it work?, I am just started reading on lalkitab through forum, can you suggest any book (lalkitab) or study material,or even lalkitab expert name , such as we have seniors in our KP group like tinwinji, lutharji, you, Dhanbalanji,etc. Lalkitab based astrology is untouched for me till now. Thanks & regards, Neeraj --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Punit Pandey <punitp Re: [lalkitab] Lal Kitab Basis - Palmistry or Astrology lalkitab Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 9:56 AM Dear Kulbir ji, Your statement that " Palmistry is only a small portion which is ignorable. " seems strange to me. The fact, the first edition (1939 edition) was based on palmistry only. In all the examples given in Lal Kitab " Vishay ke Sahayak Kuch Udhaharan " , chart based on palm has been given equal importance as birth chart. In my opinion, Lal Kitab is the only book available book of present time that dealt with Astro-Palmistry with that level of detail. Other books like book by L. R. Chawdhary and R.G. Rao are just at surface level if we compare them with Lal Kitab. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:57 PM, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ gmail.com> wrote: > Sir, truth is that it is based on amalgmation of astrology, vaastu, > prevailing conditions, objects under command of native and intutive > capapcity of the astrologer. Palmistry is only a small portion which > is ignorable. Kulbir. > > > On 2/16/09, Prof.S.K. Chakarvarti <skchakarvarti@ gmail.com<skchakarvarti% 40gmail.com> > > wrote: > > Dear All: > > I have a copy of the 3 volume book of LalKitab 1952 whose photocopy is > being > > sold in the Black market at Rs. 2100.00.This I suppose relies on > Palmistry. > > Sincerely > > Dr.S.K.Chakarvarti > > Professor and Ex-Chairman > > Department of Physics > > ( & Instrumentation) > > National Institute of Technology(Institut ion of National Importance) > > Kurukshetra, India > > PIN:136 119 > > Tel:(O)+91-1744- 233495 and ®+91-1744- 238531 > > Fax:+91-1744- 238050 > > Mobile:09896217653 > > Alternative e-mails: > > skchakarvarti@ aol.com <skchakarvarti% 40aol.com> > > skchakarvarti@ .co. in <skchakarvarti% 40.co. in> > > skchakarvarti@ hotmail.com <skchakarvarti% 40hotmail. com> > > skchakarvarti@ rediffmail. com <skchakarvarti% 40rediffmail. com> > > skchakarvarti@ usa.com <skchakarvarti% 40usa.com> > > skchakarvarti@ indiatimes. com <skchakarvarti% 40indiatimes. com> > > skchakarvarti@ in.com <skchakarvarti% 40in.com> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp (AT) gmail (DOT) com<punitp%40gmail. com>> > wrote: > > > >> This is " Lal Kitab Ke Farmaan " (also called 1939 edition of Lal Kitab) > >> in > >> Hindi published by Himanchal Publications and distributed by Sagar > >> Publications. > >> > >> Thanks & Regards, > >> > >> Punit Pandey > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Asheesh Mathur > >> <asheesh.mathur@ gmail.com <asheesh.mathur% 40gmail.com> <asheesh.mathur% > 40gmail.com> >wrote: > >> > >> > Thanks Punit, I have a copy of the Lal Kitab published by Sagar, > >> > however its primarily based on astrology ...Sun in X house , Moon in > >> > y house and so on. > >> > > >> > Have they come up with another edition , explicitly based on > >> > Palmistry. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > Asheesh > >> > > >> > lalkitab@ s.com <lalkitab%40gr oups.com> <lalkitab% > 40. com> <lalkitab% > >> 40. com>, Punit Pandey > >> > <punitp wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Dear Asheesh ji, > >> > > > >> > > Almost all editions of Lal Kitab talk about palmistry. The first > >> > edition > >> > > (1939) is based on palmistry only. A transliteration of 1939 > >> > edition has > >> > > been done by Shri Benimadhav Goswami and published by Sagar > >> > publications. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks & Regards, > >> > > > >> > > Punit Pandey > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Asheesh Mathur > >> > > <asheesh.mathur@ ...>wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > All, > >> > > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > >> > > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > >> > > > remedies. > >> > > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > >> > > > primarily based on Palmistry. > >> > > > > >> > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me > >> > that > >> > > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > >> > > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition > >> > > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > >> > > > > >> > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major > >> > > > emphasis. > >> > > > > >> > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > >> > > > > >> > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to > >> > be > >> > > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > >> > > > > >> > > > Would like to hear from you all. > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks > >> > > > Asheesh > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 DEAR SIR, I BELIEVE ALL THE LAL KITAB REMEDIES AND PLANATARY PROFILES,WITHOUT ANY SUSPICION.WHEN THE BOOK WAS WRITTEN, THE SCIENCE OF ASTRONOMY WAS NOT AS DEVELOPED LIKE TODAY.THE PERSON WHO WROTE THIS BOOK WAS AN ENLIGHTENED SOUL OF THE DIVINE POWER WHO TRIED TO LEAD US ON A PATH OF LOVE,PEACE AND POSITIVE CREATION FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE UNIVERSAL CREATOR. WHEN PLANETARY TRENDS ARE THE SAME AS WRITTEN IN LAL KITAB THEN REMEDIES ARE ALSO PERFECT WHICH ARE WRITTEN WITH THE CONSENT AND DIVINE LIGHT OF UNIVERSE BY THE AUTHOR FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE SOCIETY.I STRONGLY BELIEVE MY POINTS WITH FACTS BY GOD'S GRACE. I WOE THE HANDS OF THE AUTHOR WHO WRITE THIS BOOK.THIS BOOK IS VERY GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE WHO TRUST WITHOUT SUSPICION,AND BELIEVE POSITIVE BRINGS POSITIVE,AND TRULY WANT TO HEAL THE PAST,ACCESS THE PRESENT AND DESIGN THE FUTURE.THIS IS NOT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALWAYS TERRORISED ONLY FOR THEIR OWN COMFORTS AND DON'T WANT TO TRULY ATTACH WITH THE UNIVERSE.DO ALL THE REMEDIES WITH LOVE SEEKING THE BLESSINGS OF THE AUTHOR AND ALMIGHTY GOD,YOU WILL BE SURPRISED TO THE BLESSINGS OF THE UNIVERSE.BUT BE CAREFUL,IF YOU GET CLEAN WATER TO DRINK,YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CORRECT IN FRONT OF THE UNIVERSE. THANK YOU, I JUST THINK TO WRITE MY MESSAGE,PARDON ME, I WRITE TOO MUCH. BOT I DON'T MEANT TO HEART ANYONE IN ANYWAY. HAVE A NICE DAY! RAKESH-FROM ROMANIA lalkitab [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of Prof.S.K. Chakarvarti Tuesday, February 17, 2009 12:01 PM lalkitab Re: [lalkitab] Lal Kitab Basis - Palmistry or Astrology Dear Kulbir Ji: Thanks for your observation and comments. May I narrate a real incidence. Niels Bohr- a noble prize holder in physics, had a horse shoe nail stamped upon the entrance of his house. Some visitor friend made a comment- " Bohr! You are a scientist but still believe in superstitions " . The scientist replied, " I do not know. But it works! " To me it looks, our present knowledge of science is limited and we should not brand every other thing a superstition if it can not be evaluated and analyzed on the basis of presently known laws of science! Sincerely Dr.S.K.Chakarvarti Professor and Ex-Chairman Department of Physics ( & Instrumentation) National Institute of Technology(Institution of National Importance) Kurukshetra,India PIN:136 119 Tel:(O)+91-1744-233495 and ®+91-1744-238531 Fax:+91-1744-238050 Mobile:09896217653 Alternative e-mails: skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40aol.com> skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40.co.in> skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40hotmail.com> skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40rediffmail.com> skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40usa.com> skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40indiatimes.com> skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40in.com> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:38 PM, kulbir bance <kulbirbance <kulbirbance%40gmail.com> >wrote: > Sir, as ur bio data gives u r master of physics. Relate this book to > quantum physics. It will be a fantastic experience. > > On 2/16/09, Prof.S.K. Chakarvarti <skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40gmail.com> <skchakarvarti%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > Dear All: > > I have a copy of the 3 volume book of LalKitab 1952 whose photocopy is > being > > sold in the Black market at Rs. 2100.00.This I suppose relies on > Palmistry. > > Sincerely > > Dr.S.K.Chakarvarti > > Professor and Ex-Chairman > > Department of Physics > > ( & Instrumentation) > > National Institute of Technology(Institution of National Importance) > > Kurukshetra,India > > PIN:136 119 > > Tel:(O)+91-1744-233495 and ®+91-1744-238531 > > Fax:+91-1744-238050 > > Mobile:09896217653 > > Alternative e-mails: > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40aol.com> <skchakarvarti%40aol.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40.co.in> <skchakarvarti%40.co.in> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40hotmail.com> <skchakarvarti%40hotmail.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40rediffmail.com> <skchakarvarti%40rediffmail.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40usa.com> <skchakarvarti%40usa.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40indiatimes.com> <skchakarvarti%40indiatimes.com> > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40in.com> <skchakarvarti%40in.com> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp <punitp%40gmail.com> <punitp%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > >> This is " Lal Kitab Ke Farmaan " (also called 1939 edition of Lal Kitab) > >> in > >> Hindi published by Himanchal Publications and distributed by Sagar > >> Publications. > >> > >> Thanks & Regards, > >> > >> Punit Pandey > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Asheesh Mathur > >> <asheesh.mathur <asheesh.mathur%40gmail.com> <asheesh.mathur%40gmail.com> <asheesh.mathur% > 40gmail.com>>wrote: > >> > >> > Thanks Punit, I have a copy of the Lal Kitab published by Sagar, > >> > however its primarily based on astrology ...Sun in X house , Moon in > >> > y house and so on. > >> > > >> > Have they come up with another edition , explicitly based on > >> > Palmistry. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > Asheesh > >> > > >> > lalkitab <lalkitab%40> <lalkitab%40><lalkitab% > 40> <lalkitab% > >> 40>, Punit Pandey > >> > <punitp wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Dear Asheesh ji, > >> > > > >> > > Almost all editions of Lal Kitab talk about palmistry. The first > >> > edition > >> > > (1939) is based on palmistry only. A transliteration of 1939 > >> > edition has > >> > > been done by Shri Benimadhav Goswami and published by Sagar > >> > publications. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks & Regards, > >> > > > >> > > Punit Pandey > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Asheesh Mathur > > >> > > <asheesh.mathurwrote: > >> > > > >> > > > All, > >> > > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > >> > > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > >> > > > remedies. > >> > > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > >> > > > primarily based on Palmistry. > >> > > > > >> > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me > >> > that > >> > > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > >> > > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition > >> > > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > >> > > > > >> > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major > >> > > > emphasis. > >> > > > > >> > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > >> > > > > >> > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to > >> > be > >> > > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > >> > > > > >> > > > Would like to hear from you all. > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks > >> > > > Asheesh > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 dear Punit Ji, U r very right. Leaving aside 1939 edition, the title page of 1952 LK edition reads as: (Astrology based on palmistry) ilm samadrik ki buniyaad par chalne waale Jyotish ki Lal Kitab san 1952 With best wishes; sincerely, kiranjit lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > Your statement that " Palmistry is only a small portion which is ignorable. " > seems strange to me. The fact, the first edition (1939 edition) was based on > palmistry only. In all the examples given in Lal Kitab " Vishay ke Sahayak > Kuch Udhaharan " , chart based on palm has been given equal importance as > birth chart. In my opinion, Lal Kitab is the only book available book of > present time that dealt with Astro-Palmistry with that level of detail. > Other books like book by L. R. Chawdhary and R.G. Rao are just at surface > level if we compare them with Lal Kitab. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:57 PM, kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > > Sir, truth is that it is based on amalgmation of astrology, vaastu, > > prevailing conditions, objects under command of native and intutive > > capapcity of the astrologer. Palmistry is only a small portion which > > is ignorable. Kulbir. > > > > > > On 2/16/09, Prof.S.K. Chakarvarti <skchakarvarti<skchakarvarti%40gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > Dear All: > > > I have a copy of the 3 volume book of LalKitab 1952 whose photocopy is > > being > > > sold in the Black market at Rs. 2100.00.This I suppose relies on > > Palmistry. > > > Sincerely > > > Dr.S.K.Chakarvarti > > > Professor and Ex-Chairman > > > Department of Physics > > > ( & Instrumentation) > > > National Institute of Technology(Institution of National Importance) > > > Kurukshetra,India > > > PIN:136 119 > > > Tel:(O)+91-1744-233495 and ®+91-1744-238531 > > > Fax:+91-1744-238050 > > > Mobile:09896217653 > > > Alternative e-mails: > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40aol.com> > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40.co.in> > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40hotmail.com> > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40rediffmail.com> > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40usa.com> > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40indiatimes.com> > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40in.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp<punitp%40gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > >> This is " Lal Kitab Ke Farmaan " (also called 1939 edition of Lal Kitab) > > >> in > > >> Hindi published by Himanchal Publications and distributed by Sagar > > >> Publications. > > >> > > >> Thanks & Regards, > > >> > > >> Punit Pandey > > >> > > >> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Asheesh Mathur > > >> <asheesh.mathur <asheesh.mathur%40gmail.com> <asheesh.mathur% > > 40gmail.com>>wrote: > > >> > > >> > Thanks Punit, I have a copy of the Lal Kitab published by Sagar, > > >> > however its primarily based on astrology ...Sun in X house , Moon in > > >> > y house and so on. > > >> > > > >> > Have they come up with another edition , explicitly based on > > >> > Palmistry. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks > > >> > Asheesh > > >> > > > >> > lalkitab <lalkitab% 40><lalkitab% > > 40> <lalkitab% > > >> 40>, Punit Pandey > > >> > <punitp@> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > Dear Asheesh ji, > > >> > > > > >> > > Almost all editions of Lal Kitab talk about palmistry. The first > > >> > edition > > >> > > (1939) is based on palmistry only. A transliteration of 1939 > > >> > edition has > > >> > > been done by Shri Benimadhav Goswami and published by Sagar > > >> > publications. > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks & Regards, > > >> > > > > >> > > Punit Pandey > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Asheesh Mathur > > >> > > <asheesh.mathur@>wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > All, > > >> > > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > > >> > > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > > >> > > > remedies. > > >> > > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > > >> > > > primarily based on Palmistry. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me > > >> > that > > >> > > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > > >> > > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by intuition > > >> > > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with major > > >> > > > emphasis. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming to > > >> > be > > >> > > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Would like to hear from you all. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Thanks > > >> > > > Asheesh > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear Neeraj ji, KP System doesn't deny remedies but simply says that people will be able to perform remedy only if they are destined for that. Now, in absence of any method that tells who is destined and who is not, it becomes a complicated matter. My thought is that *we should NOT mix both the methods* and understand power and limitation of each system. If we can identify a problem using the rules given in Lal Kitab, then only we should suggest Lal Kitab remedies. In other words, it is not advisable to identify a planet is malefic in KP chart and perform Lal Kitab remedy for that. We have quite a few good Lal Kitab astrologers in this forum. This is not as active as our KP forum, though I have seen that Kulbir ji, Leekha ji etc. contributing regularly to this forum. I am also planning to contribute regularly to this forum. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Neeraj Chowksey <chowkseyneerajwrote: > Dear Punitji , > As you know in our KP astrology no remidies are given for sorting or > reducing the bad effect of kundli . In lalkitab it is there , if we go with > lalkitab & suggest some upay , will it work?, > I am just started reading on lalkitab through forum, can you suggest any > book (lalkitab) or study material,or even lalkitab expert name , such as we > have seniors in our KP group like tinwinji, lutharji, you, Dhanbalanji,etc. > Lalkitab based astrology is untouched for me till now. > Thanks & regards, > Neeraj > --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Punit Pandey <punitp <punitp%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > Punit Pandey <punitp <punitp%40gmail.com>> > Re: [lalkitab] Lal Kitab Basis - Palmistry or Astrology > lalkitab <lalkitab%40> > Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 9:56 AM > > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > Your statement that " Palmistry is only a small portion which is ignorable. " > seems strange to me. The fact, the first edition (1939 edition) was based > on > palmistry only. In all the examples given in Lal Kitab " Vishay ke Sahayak > Kuch Udhaharan " , chart based on palm has been given equal importance as > birth chart. In my opinion, Lal Kitab is the only book available book of > present time that dealt with Astro-Palmistry with that level of detail. > Other books like book by L. R. Chawdhary and R.G. Rao are just at surface > level if we compare them with Lal Kitab. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:57 PM, kulbir bance <kulbirbance@ gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Sir, truth is that it is based on amalgmation of astrology, vaastu, > > prevailing conditions, objects under command of native and intutive > > capapcity of the astrologer. Palmistry is only a small portion which > > is ignorable. Kulbir. > > > > > > On 2/16/09, Prof.S.K. Chakarvarti <skchakarvarti@ gmail.com<skchakarvarti% > 40gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > Dear All: > > > I have a copy of the 3 volume book of LalKitab 1952 whose photocopy is > > being > > > sold in the Black market at Rs. 2100.00.This I suppose relies on > > Palmistry. > > > Sincerely > > > Dr.S.K.Chakarvarti > > > Professor and Ex-Chairman > > > Department of Physics > > > ( & Instrumentation) > > > National Institute of Technology(Institut ion of National Importance) > > > Kurukshetra, India > > > PIN:136 119 > > > Tel:(O)+91-1744- 233495 and ®+91-1744- 238531 > > > Fax:+91-1744- 238050 > > > Mobile:09896217653 > > > Alternative e-mails: > > > skchakarvarti@ aol.com <skchakarvarti% 40aol.com> > > > skchakarvarti@ .co. in <skchakarvarti% 40.co. in> > > > skchakarvarti@ hotmail.com <skchakarvarti% 40hotmail. com> > > > skchakarvarti@ rediffmail. com <skchakarvarti% 40rediffmail. com> > > > skchakarvarti@ usa.com <skchakarvarti% 40usa.com> > > > skchakarvarti@ indiatimes. com <skchakarvarti% 40indiatimes. com> > > > skchakarvarti@ in.com <skchakarvarti% 40in.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Punit Pandey <punitp<punitp%40gmail. com>> > > wrote: > > > > > >> This is " Lal Kitab Ke Farmaan " (also called 1939 edition of Lal Kitab) > > >> in > > >> Hindi published by Himanchal Publications and distributed by Sagar > > >> Publications. > > >> > > >> Thanks & Regards, > > >> > > >> Punit Pandey > > >> > > >> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Asheesh Mathur > > >> <asheesh.mathur@ gmail.com <asheesh.mathur% 40gmail.com> > <asheesh.mathur% > > 40gmail.com> >wrote: > > >> > > >> > Thanks Punit, I have a copy of the Lal Kitab published by Sagar, > > >> > however its primarily based on astrology ...Sun in X house , Moon in > > >> > y house and so on. > > >> > > > >> > Have they come up with another edition , explicitly based on > > >> > Palmistry. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks > > >> > Asheesh > > >> > > > >> > lalkitab@ s.com <lalkitab%40gr oups.com> > <lalkitab% > > > 40. com> <lalkitab% > > >> 40. com>, Punit Pandey > > >> > <punitp wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > Dear Asheesh ji, > > >> > > > > >> > > Almost all editions of Lal Kitab talk about palmistry. The first > > >> > edition > > >> > > (1939) is based on palmistry only. A transliteration of 1939 > > >> > edition has > > >> > > been done by Shri Benimadhav Goswami and published by Sagar > > >> > publications. > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks & Regards, > > >> > > > > >> > > Punit Pandey > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Asheesh Mathur > > >> > > <asheesh.mathur@ ...>wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > All, > > >> > > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in 1985), > > >> > > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it comes to > > >> > > > remedies. > > >> > > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically that LK is > > >> > > > primarily based on Palmistry. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, he told me > > >> > that > > >> > > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give different > > >> > > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by > intuition > > >> > > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else statements. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or with > major > > >> > > > emphasis. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, claiming > to > > >> > be > > >> > > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Would like to hear from you all. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Thanks > > >> > > > Asheesh > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Thanks Kiranjit ji for pointing that out. I also believe that palmistry is an integral part of Lal Kitab. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:37 PM, kapatjal <kapatjal wrote: > dear Punit Ji, > > U r very right. Leaving aside 1939 edition, the title page of 1952 > LK edition reads as: > > (Astrology based on palmistry) > > ilm samadrik ki buniyaad par chalne waale > Jyotish ki > Lal Kitab san 1952 > > With best wishes; > sincerely, > kiranjit > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Punit Pandey > <punitp wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > > > Your statement that " Palmistry is only a small portion which is > ignorable. " > > seems strange to me. The fact, the first edition (1939 edition) > was based on > > palmistry only. In all the examples given in Lal Kitab " Vishay ke > Sahayak > > Kuch Udhaharan " , chart based on palm has been given equal > importance as > > birth chart. In my opinion, Lal Kitab is the only book available > book of > > present time that dealt with Astro-Palmistry with that level of > detail. > > Other books like book by L. R. Chawdhary and R.G. Rao are just at > surface > > level if we compare them with Lal Kitab. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:57 PM, kulbir bance <kulbirbance > wrote: > > > > > Sir, truth is that it is based on amalgmation of astrology, > vaastu, > > > prevailing conditions, objects under command of native and > intutive > > > capapcity of the astrologer. Palmistry is only a small portion > which > > > is ignorable. Kulbir. > > > > > > > > > On 2/16/09, Prof.S.K. Chakarvarti > <skchakarvarti<skchakarvarti%40gmail.com>> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear All: > > > > I have a copy of the 3 volume book of LalKitab 1952 whose > photocopy is > > > being > > > > sold in the Black market at Rs. 2100.00.This I suppose relies > on > > > Palmistry. > > > > Sincerely > > > > Dr.S.K.Chakarvarti > > > > Professor and Ex-Chairman > > > > Department of Physics > > > > ( & Instrumentation) > > > > National Institute of Technology(Institution of National > Importance) > > > > Kurukshetra,India > > > > PIN:136 119 > > > > Tel:(O)+91-1744-233495 and ®+91-1744-238531 > > > > Fax:+91-1744-238050 > > > > Mobile:09896217653 > > > > Alternative e-mails: > > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40aol.com> > > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40.co.in> > > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40hotmail.com> > > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40rediffmail.com> > > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40usa.com> > > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40indiatimes.com> > > > > skchakarvarti <skchakarvarti%40in.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Punit Pandey > <punitp<punitp%40gmail.com>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> This is " Lal Kitab Ke Farmaan " (also called 1939 edition of > Lal Kitab) > > > >> in > > > >> Hindi published by Himanchal Publications and distributed by > Sagar > > > >> Publications. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks & Regards, > > > >> > > > >> Punit Pandey > > > >> > > > >> On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Asheesh Mathur > > > >> <asheesh.mathur <asheesh.mathur%40gmail.com> > <asheesh.mathur% > > > 40gmail.com>>wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Thanks Punit, I have a copy of the Lal Kitab published by > Sagar, > > > >> > however its primarily based on astrology ...Sun in X > house , Moon in > > > >> > y house and so on. > > > >> > > > > >> > Have they come up with another edition , explicitly based on > > > >> > Palmistry. > > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks > > > >> > Asheesh > > > >> > > > > >> > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><lalkitab% > 40><lalkitab% > > > 40> <lalkitab% > > > >> 40>, Punit Pandey > > > >> > <punitp@> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Dear Asheesh ji, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Almost all editions of Lal Kitab talk about palmistry. > The first > > > >> > edition > > > >> > > (1939) is based on palmistry only. A transliteration of > 1939 > > > >> > edition has > > > >> > > been done by Shri Benimadhav Goswami and published by > Sagar > > > >> > publications. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Thanks & Regards, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Punit Pandey > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Asheesh Mathur > > > >> > > <asheesh.mathur@>wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > All, > > > >> > > > I have experience of Lal Kitab almost 24 years back (in > 1985), > > > >> > > > through an expert in LK and have seen miracles when it > comes to > > > >> > > > remedies. > > > >> > > > What bothers me is that expert, told me specifically > that LK is > > > >> > > > primarily based on Palmistry. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > I have deep interest in both Palmistry and Astrology, > he told me > > > >> > that > > > >> > > > astrology is vague, different astrologers will give > different > > > >> > > > predictions for the same horoscope. It's more driven by > intuition > > > >> > > > rather then mathematical laws or in IT, if then else > statements. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > I am yet to find an LK book based on Palmistry alone or > with major > > > >> > > > emphasis. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Any thoughts or experience on this aspect. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > I have around 7/8 Lal Kitabs, all based on horoscope, > claiming to > > > >> > be > > > >> > > > based on originals and all landing in confusion. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Would like to hear from you all. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Thanks > > > >> > > > Asheesh > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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