Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Bhupinder ji, another ritual associated with bathing is that when a corpse is bathed for the last time before cremation, care is taken as to the used water moves out of the house. in places such as mine we have septic tanks as severage is not laid. in such a situation it becomes very particular that such water is drained out and doesn't gets collected in the septic tank of the house. kulbir lalkitab , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Bhupinder ji, lalkitab describes a way of life. > regarding jyot agarbatti and cooking the questions have been > answered in the recent posts in the forum. > about cooking and eating please read miglani ji's input of roasting > badaams and abandoning eating of gur. > coming to bathing. the planets items are divided into degrees as u > have asked about articles of moon. throwing used water will not have > such effect as if u throw milk in bathroom outlet. similarily we > boil water in our daily routine but if you boil silver in water it > brings in disastrous results. in various planatary positions e.g > mars 8 spilling of boiled milk is termed inauspicious but water is > not a consideration. > also there are remedies where sprinkling water or milk over hot tawa > is recommended. > kulbir. > > In lalkitab , bhupinder johar <bsjoharsnp@> > wrote:> > > Respected Miglaniji / Leekhaji & Kulbirji, > > > > I'd first like to share that these are very personal > > comments / thoughts and should be taken in good > > spirit. > > > > I believe if people start taking into consideration > > all such minor things like burning of agarbatti / dhup > > / jot etc., How can a person live peacefully bcaz then > > before every act, one has to think twice. > > > > Tomorrow, theer can be a point that a particular > > person can't bath bcaz water will be flown away from > > that individual etc.and water represents moon with > > some placement of planets etc. I can say for sure that > > even if this is true , a person has to bath > > > > Another point, we make rotis / chappatis on tawa which > > is black and may be consider as SHANI with roti cud be > > " something ( sun etc.), we are mixing 2 planets and > > that may be dangerous. > > > > In short, I believe there is a thin line between faith > > and superstition and I am struggling to draw that > > line. > > > > Need help from all you schoalrs to clear all such > > doubts. > > > > Respectfully Yours, > > Bhupidner > > --- sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Miglani ji, > > > > > > I am too small to comment but need some guidence > > > submitting in BOLD, > > > > > > > > > > > > > i) the prohibition of burning bamboo is neither > > > from Vedic nor Lal > > > > Kitab. This is a folk tradition. The tradition > > > comes from the arthi > > > > of a dead man. Since the arthi is made of bamboo > > > and is burnt > > > along > with the dead body. Therefore burning bamboo > > > in any form is > > > not considered auspicious. > > > > > > WAS NOT AWARE OF IT, ONLY KNOWING THAT SOME GROUP > > > (BANS)AVOID IT. > > > SECONDLY TOO MANY OTHER THINGS ARE RELATED TO THIS > > > DONOT THINK ALL > > > ARE BANNED/AVOIDED BY PEOPLES. > > > > > > > > Coming to the Lal Kitab, burning bamboo would mean > > > destroying > > > > Mercury. It wouldn't be wise to destroy buddhi. > > > > > > THOUGH BUDDHI IS RELATED TO BUDH (MERCURY)ONLY BUT > > > DESTROYING IS > > > RELATED TO RAHU, THAT'S WHY MAKING/KEEPING HEAVY > > > SMOKE IN HOUSE IS > > > PROHIBITED. > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab follows century old collective folk > > > wisdom, known as > > > folk tradition. Even though it may not be mentioned > > > in the Lal Kitab > > > as such, but we have our own intelligence to figure > > > it out. > > > > > > GOOD JOB BEING DONE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ii) cow dung and urine is very commonly used in > > > most of the Indian > > > > homes. Upale of dung are also used for cooking. > > > But using dung for > > > > burning before a deity in any form and creating > > > smoke [ rahu ] may > > > > not be advisable. > > > > > > COW DUNG IS ALWAYS TAKEN AS AN AUSPICIOUS THING. > > > EVEN IN MATHURA > > > TEMPLES PANCHAMRAT CONSIST ALL. BURNING OF > > > DHOOP/UPLAS ARE > > > CONSIDERED CREATION OF SMOKE (RAHU)BUT JOT I DOUBT. > > > > > > > > > > > iii) desi ghee is an ashiya of Venus. With Venus > > > and Sun placed in > > > > 2nd , the house of Venus, it will not be advisable > > > to destroy > > > Venus by burning it because it will weaken the Venus > > > even further. > > > Remember Venus is already withered in the company of > > > the Sun. > > > > > > OKAY, BURNING OF DESI GHEE IS PROHIBITED FOR SUN VEN > > > IN SECOND. WHAT > > > ABOUT EATING, I FOUND PEOPLE WITH SUN/SHUKRA > > > COMBINATION FOUND OF > > > EATING PARANTHA, DESI GHEE'S SWEET, JALEBI'S. I FEEL > > > ALL THIS > > > INVOLVE BOILING/BURNING OF GHEE. > > > > > > REGARDS, > > > S LEEKHA > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > KP Miglani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " sleekhas " > > > <sleekhas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > > > > > I think we are diverting our selves from LK > > > learning to some > > > other > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > burning of bamboo(baans) is prohibited in > > > vedic/hindu theory? > > > > > do u have any proof that LK restrict it. if yes > > > please share it > > > > with > > > > > us. > > > > > > > > > > ii) using of dung in aggarbatti, may be but in > > > lal kitab we use > > > cow > > > > > urine for dropping on floor, Gohey for burning > > > of saunf > > > etc,feeding > > > > > of cow is also recommended on several places. > > > > > > > > > > iii) burning of jot of desi ghee when suraj te > > > shuker doosrey, > > > let > > > > us > > > > > debate on it. > > > > > > > > > > Let us have healthly discussions, I am not an > > > expert like u all, > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > s leekha > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " kulbirbains " > > > <kulbirbains@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dera sleekhas ji, i would like to draw ur > > > attention to the > > > fact > > > > that > > > > > > aggarbatis usually contain bamboo stick parts > > > and burning of > > > > bamboo > > > > > is > > > > > > prohibited. secondly in the manufature of > > > agarbattis, very old > > > > > > decomposed manure/dung is used to keep it > > > burning continuously. > > > > > > secondly burning of jot of desi ghee is > > > prohibited for people > > > > with > > > > > > shukra and sun in second house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > _______________ > > Never miss a thing. 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