Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Bhupinder ji, the answer to ur querry is not turning a blind eye to the daily routine but understanding the planets and planetary position assocaited and develop a harmony between planatery position of our horoscope that govern our past karmas and synchronising it with daily routine. e.g. for mercury in house no 11 keeping utensils bottom up is prohibited but we find that generally every household has it. harm is caused to the native if he doesnot discontinues this practice in his household. similarly we have the concept of varjit dan. e.g helping someone in education is considered good charity but it is banned for some planetary positions. and so on. sneezing from back or front might not be as inauspicious for person having rahu not in 12 rather malefic rahu but for rahu malefic it is a bad omen. kulbir lalkitab , bhupinder johar <bsjoharsnp wrote: > > Respected Scholars, > > May I get some insights on my doubts please. I may not > be correct in quoting the right example but I hope you > can sense the intent of my queries. > > Regards > Bhupinder > --- bhupinder johar <bsjoharsnp wrote: > > > lalkitab > > bhupinder johar <bsjoharsnp > > Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:45:37 -0800 (PST) > > Re: [lalkitab] Re: aggarbati and jyot > > > > Respected Miglaniji / Leekhaji & Kulbirji, > > > > I'd first like to share that these are very personal > > comments / thoughts and should be taken in good > > spirit. > > > > I believe if people start taking into consideration > > all such minor things like burning of agarbatti / > > dhup > > / jot etc., How can a person live peacefully bcaz > > then > > before every act, one has to think twice. > > > > Tomorrow, theer can be a point that a particular > > person can't bath bcaz water will be flown away from > > that individual etc.and water represents moon with > > some placement of planets etc. I can say for sure > > that > > even if this is true , a person has to bath > > > > Another point, we make rotis / chappatis on tawa > > which > > is black and may be consider as SHANI with roti cud > > be > > " something ( sun etc.), we are mixing 2 planets and > > that may be dangerous. > > > > In short, I believe there is a thin line between > > faith > > and superstition and I am struggling to draw that > > line. > > > > Need help from all you schoalrs to clear all such > > doubts. > > > > Respectfully Yours, > > Bhupidner > > --- sleekhas <sleekhas wrote: > > > > > Dear Miglani ji, > > > > > > I am too small to comment but need some guidence > > > submitting in BOLD, > > > > > > > > > > > > > i) the prohibition of burning bamboo is neither > > > from Vedic nor Lal > > > > Kitab. This is a folk tradition. The tradition > > > comes from the arthi > > > > of a dead man. Since the arthi is made of bamboo > > > and is burnt > > > along > with the dead body. Therefore burning > > bamboo > > > in any form is > > > not considered auspicious. > > > > > > WAS NOT AWARE OF IT, ONLY KNOWING THAT SOME GROUP > > > (BANS)AVOID IT. > > > SECONDLY TOO MANY OTHER THINGS ARE RELATED TO THIS > > > DONOT THINK ALL > > > ARE BANNED/AVOIDED BY PEOPLES. > > > > > > > > Coming to the Lal Kitab, burning bamboo would > > mean > > > destroying > > > > Mercury. It wouldn't be wise to destroy buddhi. > > > > > > THOUGH BUDDHI IS RELATED TO BUDH (MERCURY)ONLY BUT > > > DESTROYING IS > > > RELATED TO RAHU, THAT'S WHY MAKING/KEEPING HEAVY > > > SMOKE IN HOUSE IS > > > PROHIBITED. > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab follows century old collective folk > > > wisdom, known as > > > folk tradition. Even though it may not be > > mentioned > > > in the Lal Kitab > > > as such, but we have our own intelligence to > > figure > > > it out. > > > > > > GOOD JOB BEING DONE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ii) cow dung and urine is very commonly used in > > > most of the Indian > > > > homes. Upale of dung are also used for cooking. > > > But using dung for > > > > burning before a deity in any form and creating > > > smoke [ rahu ] may > > > > not be advisable. > > > > > > COW DUNG IS ALWAYS TAKEN AS AN AUSPICIOUS THING. > > > EVEN IN MATHURA > > > TEMPLES PANCHAMRAT CONSIST ALL. BURNING OF > > > DHOOP/UPLAS ARE > > > CONSIDERED CREATION OF SMOKE (RAHU)BUT JOT I > > DOUBT. > > > > > > > > > > > iii) desi ghee is an ashiya of Venus. With Venus > > > and Sun placed in > > > > 2nd , the house of Venus, it will not be > > advisable > > > to destroy > > > Venus by burning it because it will weaken the > > Venus > > > even further. > > > Remember Venus is already withered in the company > > of > > > the Sun. > > > > > > OKAY, BURNING OF DESI GHEE IS PROHIBITED FOR SUN > > VEN > > > IN SECOND. WHAT > > > ABOUT EATING, I FOUND PEOPLE WITH SUN/SHUKRA > > > COMBINATION FOUND OF > > > EATING PARANTHA, DESI GHEE'S SWEET, JALEBI'S. I > > FEEL > > > ALL THIS > > > INVOLVE BOILING/BURNING OF GHEE. > > > > > > REGARDS, > > > S LEEKHA > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > KP Miglani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " sleekhas " > > > <sleekhas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > > > > > I think we are diverting our selves from LK > > > learning to some > > > other > > > > > theory. > > > > > > > > > > burning of bamboo(baans) is prohibited in > > > vedic/hindu theory? > > > > > do u have any proof that LK restrict it. if > > yes > > > please share it > > > > with > > > > > us. > > > > > > > > > > ii) using of dung in aggarbatti, may be but in > > > lal kitab we use > > > cow > > > > > urine for dropping on floor, Gohey for burning > > > of saunf > > > etc,feeding > > > > > of cow is also recommended on several places. > > > > > > > > > > iii) burning of jot of desi ghee when suraj te > > > shuker doosrey, > > > let > > > > us > > > > > debate on it. > > > > > > > > > > Let us have healthly discussions, I am not an > > > expert like u all, > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > s leekha > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " kulbirbains " > > > <kulbirbains@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dera sleekhas ji, i would like to draw ur > > > attention to the > > > fact > > > > that > > > > > > aggarbatis usually contain bamboo stick > > parts > > > and burning of > > > > bamboo > > > > > is > > > > > > prohibited. secondly in the manufature of > > > agarbattis, very old > > > > > > decomposed manure/dung is used to keep it > > > burning continuously. > > > > > > secondly burning of jot of desi ghee is > > > prohibited for people > > > > with > > > > > > shukra and sun in second house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ _______________ > > Never miss a thing. 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Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Respected Kulbirji, Thanks a lot for the detailed information. I've seen in LK about soem DO's and DOn'ts for people with specific planetary positions e.g shani in house 8th / Moon in house 6th / Jup in 7th / Venus in 9th etc. Based on your rich experience and interaction with other scholars, is there any DO's and DOn'ts list which is applicable to all in our daily life? Can we consider a) entry of hawai bad in south facing houses b)band gali ka makan are governed by mangal bad, applies to everyone and one should take care of such things? If yes, could you please share many such Do's and DOn'ts? Please don't mind if I am asking for too many things Many Thanks Regards Bhupinder --- kulbirbains <kulbirbains wrote: > Bhupinder ji, the answer to ur querry is not turning > a blind eye to > the daily routine but understanding the planets and > planetary > position assocaited and develop a harmony between > planatery position > of our horoscope that govern our past karmas and > synchronising it > with daily routine. > e.g. for mercury in house no 11 keeping utensils > bottom up is > prohibited but we find that generally every > household has it. harm > is caused to the native if he doesnot discontinues > this practice in > his household. > similarly we have the concept of varjit dan. e.g > helping someone in > education is considered good charity but it is > banned for some > planetary positions. and so on. > sneezing from back or front might not be as > inauspicious for person > having rahu not in 12 rather malefic rahu but for > rahu malefic it is > a bad omen. > kulbir > lalkitab , bhupinder johar > <bsjoharsnp > wrote: > > > > Respected Scholars, > > > > May I get some insights on my doubts please. I may > not > > be correct in quoting the right example but I hope > you > > can sense the intent of my queries. > > > > Regards > > Bhupinder > > --- bhupinder johar <bsjoharsnp wrote: > > > > > lalkitab > > > bhupinder johar <bsjoharsnp > > > Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:45:37 -0800 (PST) > > > Re: [lalkitab] Re: aggarbati and jyot > > > > > > Respected Miglaniji / Leekhaji & Kulbirji, > > > > > > I'd first like to share that these are very > personal > > > comments / thoughts and should be taken in good > > > spirit. > > > > > > I believe if people start taking into > consideration > > > all such minor things like burning of agarbatti > / > > > dhup > > > / jot etc., How can a person live peacefully > bcaz > > > then > > > before every act, one has to think twice. > > > > > > Tomorrow, theer can be a point that a particular > > > person can't bath bcaz water will be flown away > from > > > that individual etc.and water represents moon > with > > > some placement of planets etc. I can say for > sure > > > that > > > even if this is true , a person has to bath > > > > > > Another point, we make rotis / chappatis on tawa > > > which > > > is black and may be consider as SHANI with roti > cud > > > be > > > " something ( sun etc.), we are mixing 2 planets > and > > > that may be dangerous. > > > > > > In short, I believe there is a thin line between > > > faith > > > and superstition and I am struggling to draw > that > > > line. > > > > > > Need help from all you schoalrs to clear all > such > > > doubts. > > > > > > Respectfully Yours, > > > Bhupidner > > > --- sleekhas <sleekhas wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Miglani ji, > > > > > > > > I am too small to comment but need some > guidence > > > > submitting in BOLD, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i) the prohibition of burning bamboo is > neither > > > > from Vedic nor Lal > > > > > Kitab. This is a folk tradition. The > tradition > > > > comes from the arthi > > > > > of a dead man. Since the arthi is made of > bamboo > > > > and is burnt > > > > along > with the dead body. Therefore burning > > > bamboo > > > > in any form is > > > > not considered auspicious. > > > > > > > > WAS NOT AWARE OF IT, ONLY KNOWING THAT SOME > GROUP > > > > (BANS)AVOID IT. > > > > SECONDLY TOO MANY OTHER THINGS ARE RELATED TO > THIS > > > > DONOT THINK ALL > > > > ARE BANNED/AVOIDED BY PEOPLES. > > > > > > > > > > Coming to the Lal Kitab, burning bamboo > would > > > mean > > > > destroying > > > > > Mercury. It wouldn't be wise to destroy > buddhi. > > > > > > > > THOUGH BUDDHI IS RELATED TO BUDH (MERCURY)ONLY > BUT > > > > DESTROYING IS > > > > RELATED TO RAHU, THAT'S WHY MAKING/KEEPING > HEAVY > > > > SMOKE IN HOUSE IS > > > > PROHIBITED. > > > > > > > > > > Lal Kitab follows century old collective > folk > > > > wisdom, known as > > > > folk tradition. Even though it may not be > > > mentioned > > > > in the Lal Kitab > > > > as such, but we have our own intelligence to > > > figure > > > > it out. > > > > > > > > GOOD JOB BEING DONE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ii) cow dung and urine is very commonly used > in > > > > most of the Indian > > > > > homes. Upale of dung are also used for > cooking. > > > > But using dung for > > > > > burning before a deity in any form and > creating > > > > smoke [ rahu ] may > > > > > not be advisable. > > > > > > > > COW DUNG IS ALWAYS TAKEN AS AN AUSPICIOUS > THING. > > > > EVEN IN MATHURA > > > > TEMPLES PANCHAMRAT CONSIST ALL. BURNING OF > > > > DHOOP/UPLAS ARE > > > > CONSIDERED CREATION OF SMOKE (RAHU)BUT JOT I > > > DOUBT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > iii) desi ghee is an ashiya of Venus. With > Venus > > > > and Sun placed in > > > > > 2nd , the house of Venus, it will not be > > > advisable > > > > to destroy > > > > Venus by burning it because it will weaken the > > > Venus > > > > even further. > > > > Remember Venus is already withered in the > company > > > of > > > > the Sun. > > > > > > > > OKAY, BURNING OF DESI GHEE IS PROHIBITED FOR > SUN > > > VEN > > > > IN SECOND. WHAT > > > > ABOUT EATING, I FOUND PEOPLE WITH SUN/SHUKRA > > > > COMBINATION FOUND OF > > > > EATING PARANTHA, DESI GHEE'S SWEET, JALEBI'S. > I > > > FEEL > > > > ALL THIS > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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