Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Respectede Punit ji, The problem is that Bhatia ji has written an elaborate note in 1941 edition GUTKA transliterated by Prabhakar ji and also ADVERTISED BY THIS VERY FORUM where this issue has been stressed upon that lalkitab practitioners should not accept money. i have my gurus who accept money and openly acknowledge that. bhatia ji is the senior most member and any issue on lalkitab ethics discussed by him matters to many like me who respect him for his experience and knowledge. in this very forum and others also some personal issues of other members like selling gems, yantras. taking fees have been discussed rather passionately. that time also reputation of someone was at stake. if those personal issues can be foreclosed here why not this. Lalkitab ethics are very much a vital part of discussion. if u don't agree i apologise but i would like to have ur free and unburdened opinion as to why this discrimination..Why can't an opinion written in a book on lalkitab be discussed here. when he published that article it is a matter of public domain. for me it's purely business nothing personal. kulbirbains Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Dear Kulbir ji, What it has to do with the topic? This is a Lal Kitab learning and discussion forum and we should not discuss whether somebody accepted or refused some money. It is none of the forum's business. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey lalkitab , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains wrote: > > Respected bhatia ji; u have written about 10 pages exclusively to > prove that pt. Rup Chand Joshi didn't take any fee for analyzing a > tewa. but i have proof that u returned the request of a gentleman > Mr.Chakravarty phone + 19565841918; who also resides in USA because > he couldn,t pay ur fee of 3oo dollars. either practice what u say or > don't preach. > > kulbir bains > > lalkitab , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains@> > wrote: > > > > Respected Bhatia ji, a person of ur calibre is supposed to write > in a > > responsible manner.I have just read ur forwarding message and also > > message at the end gutka of prabhakar ji. u r terming Arun as > Sarthi > > of Ravana. god bless u if u don't have that much knowledge of > > mythology. And the fairy tales u have written in theend are more > > suitable for grannies to tell their children. there are some other > > people who belong to that area and they have something totally > > different to tell some of them are of ur age group and were > > closely related to pandit ji. they met him daily. while u had a > few > > occassions.don't believe me ask prabhakr ji. > > And Nirmal ji what do u mean that u have a booklet explaining > phrases, > > idioms etc which u will give on request. either give it straight > away > > or conceal it. why this viel of secrecy and funda of personal > > contacts. at this point i think umesh was true. either u r into > the > > bussiness of selling sequels or creating ur personal fiefdom. > > where has ur ideals gone. > > > > kulbir bains > > > Kulbir Bains Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Dear Kulbir ji, If it is just something written in the book, it was most welcome to discuss here. But to discuss something just to prove somebody wrong doesn't look correct to me. I feel that charging or not charging is something personal and forum doesn't have anything to say here. Also quoting some name and phone number is not correct as we don't know the context of the communication between astrologer and the person. If some member quotes tomorrow somebody's phone number and name saying that Kulbir ji cheated this person, will that be acceptable? In my opinion, this is totally outside the scope of this forum. Forum is no body to judge here and neither we want to divert from Lal Kitab. We don't want to start Lal Kitab Discussion Forum Investigation Wing here :-). It is very important that we stick to the forum's objective. Thanks & Regards, Punit Pandey On 10/1/07, kulbir bains <kulbirbains wrote: > > Respectede Punit ji, > The problem is that Bhatia ji has written an elaborate note in 1941 > edition GUTKA transliterated by Prabhakar ji and also ADVERTISED BY THIS > VERY FORUM where this issue has been stressed upon that lalkitab > practitioners should not accept money. i have my gurus who accept money and > openly acknowledge that. bhatia ji is the senior most member and any issue > on lalkitab ethics discussed by him matters to many like me who respect him > for his experience and knowledge. in this very forum and others also some > personal issues of other members like selling gems, yantras. taking fees > have been discussed rather passionately. that time also reputation of > someone was at stake. if those personal issues can be foreclosed here why > not this. Lalkitab ethics are very much a vital part of discussion. if u > don't agree i apologise but i would like to have ur free and unburdened > opinion as to why this discrimination..Why can't an opinion written in a > book on lalkitab be discussed here. when he > published that article it is a matter of public domain. for me it's purely > business nothing personal. > kulbirbains > Punit Pandey <punitp <punitp%40gmail.com>> wrote: > Dear Kulbir ji, > > What it has to do with the topic? This is a Lal Kitab learning and > discussion forum and we should not discuss whether somebody accepted > or refused some money. It is none of the forum's business. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, > " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains > wrote: > > > > Respected bhatia ji; u have written about 10 pages exclusively to > > prove that pt. Rup Chand Joshi didn't take any fee for analyzing a > > tewa. but i have proof that u returned the request of a gentleman > > Mr.Chakravarty phone + 19565841918; who also resides in USA because > > he couldn,t pay ur fee of 3oo dollars. either practice what u say > or > > don't preach. > > > > kulbir bains > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, > " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Bhatia ji, a person of ur calibre is supposed to write > > in a > > > responsible manner.I have just read ur forwarding message and > also > > > message at the end gutka of prabhakar ji. u r terming Arun as > > Sarthi > > > of Ravana. god bless u if u don't have that much knowledge of > > > mythology. And the fairy tales u have written in theend are more > > > suitable for grannies to tell their children. there are some > other > > > people who belong to that area and they have something totally > > > different to tell some of them are of ur age group and were > > > closely related to pandit ji. they met him daily. while u had a > > few > > > occassions.don't believe me ask prabhakr ji. > > > And Nirmal ji what do u mean that u have a booklet explaining > > phrases, > > > idioms etc which u will give on request. either give it straight > > away > > > or conceal it. why this viel of secrecy and funda of personal > > > contacts. at this point i think umesh was true. either u r into > > the > > > bussiness of selling sequels or creating ur personal fiefdom. > > > where has ur ideals gone. > > > > > > kulbir bains > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Pandey ji. u have a valid point. i realise my mistake and apologise especially to bhatia ji. bhatia ji had the courage to accept that it was a fact. he could have also replied in the manner as pointed out by u and it wouldn't have been difficult for him. Investigating wing should be left solely to investigators and this group be deicated to lalkitab discussion. thanx kulbir bains lalkitab , " Punit Pandey " <punitp wrote: > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > If it is just something written in the book, it was most welcome to discuss > here. But to discuss something just to prove somebody wrong doesn't look > correct to me. I feel that charging or not charging is something personal > and forum doesn't have anything to say here. Also quoting some name and > phone number is not correct as we don't know the context of the > communication between astrologer and the person. If some member quotes > tomorrow somebody's phone number and name saying that Kulbir ji cheated this > person, will that be acceptable? In my opinion, this is totally outside the > scope of this forum. Forum is no body to judge here and neither we want to > divert from Lal Kitab. We don't want to start Lal Kitab Discussion Forum > Investigation Wing here :-). It is very important that we stick to the > forum's objective. > > Thanks & Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > On 10/1/07, kulbir bains <kulbirbains wrote: > > > > Respectede Punit ji, > > The problem is that Bhatia ji has written an elaborate note in 1941 > > edition GUTKA transliterated by Prabhakar ji and also ADVERTISED BY THIS > > VERY FORUM where this issue has been stressed upon that lalkitab > > practitioners should not accept money. i have my gurus who accept money and > > openly acknowledge that. bhatia ji is the senior most member and any issue > > on lalkitab ethics discussed by him matters to many like me who respect him > > for his experience and knowledge. in this very forum and others also some > > personal issues of other members like selling gems, yantras. taking fees > > have been discussed rather passionately. that time also reputation of > > someone was at stake. if those personal issues can be foreclosed here why > > not this. Lalkitab ethics are very much a vital part of discussion. if u > > don't agree i apologise but i would like to have ur free and unburdened > > opinion as to why this discrimination..Why can't an opinion written in a > > book on lalkitab be discussed here. when he > > published that article it is a matter of public domain. for me it's purely > > business nothing personal. > > kulbirbains > > Punit Pandey <punitp <punitp%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > > > What it has to do with the topic? This is a Lal Kitab learning and > > discussion forum and we should not discuss whether somebody accepted > > or refused some money. It is none of the forum's business. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, > > " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected bhatia ji; u have written about 10 pages exclusively to > > > prove that pt. Rup Chand Joshi didn't take any fee for analyzing a > > > tewa. but i have proof that u returned the request of a gentleman > > > Mr.Chakravarty phone + 19565841918; who also resides in USA because > > > he couldn,t pay ur fee of 3oo dollars. either practice what u say > > or > > > don't preach. > > > > > > kulbir bains > > > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, > > " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Bhatia ji, a person of ur calibre is supposed to write > > > in a > > > > responsible manner.I have just read ur forwarding message and > > also > > > > message at the end gutka of prabhakar ji. u r terming Arun as > > > Sarthi > > > > of Ravana. god bless u if u don't have that much knowledge of > > > > mythology. And the fairy tales u have written in theend are more > > > > suitable for grannies to tell their children. there are some > > other > > > > people who belong to that area and they have something totally > > > > different to tell some of them are of ur age group and were > > > > closely related to pandit ji. they met him daily. while u had a > > > few > > > > occassions.don't believe me ask prabhakr ji. > > > > And Nirmal ji what do u mean that u have a booklet explaining > > > phrases, > > > > idioms etc which u will give on request. either give it straight > > > away > > > > or conceal it. why this viel of secrecy and funda of personal > > > > contacts. at this point i think umesh was true. either u r into > > > the > > > > bussiness of selling sequels or creating ur personal fiefdom. > > > > where has ur ideals gone. > > > > > > > > kulbir bains > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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