re:message 10185 question neutral houses elaborate

[Guest guest]

Greetings to moderator and group.

 

Thank you for responding. To elaborate on the question refeered to in

message 10185.

 

According to the book that is in my possesion the CHART of

FRIENDSHIP AND ENMIYY OF PLANETS : there are three classifications

that a planet falls under, planets will be classified as:

 

1. Friendly planets

2. Enemy planets

3. Planets of Neutral or Equal Powers

 

example.

Jupiter is friendly with Sun, Moon and Mars

Jupiter is enemy to Venus and Mercury

Jupiter is equal in power or is nuetral to Saturn, Rahu and Ketu

 

so, if Jupiter was exalted in House #2 which he owns in a birth chart

and moves to House #10 which is owned by Saturn in the annual chart

since both Jupiter and Saturn are classified to of equal or nuetral

power how will this house effect the planet? will Jupiter become

debilitated? will Jupiter remain exalted? How do I determine the

effect on the native particularly when the question arises that if

the planet in House A is exalted the planet in House B will yeild

exalted results or other planets that are melefic will become benefic

on account of this planets status.

 

I thank you most graciously for your wisdom and insight.

[Guest guest]

JLineBrooklyn:

Let us take the case of Jupiter. As a general rule of thumb in Lal Kitab

system, Jupiter may be considered a benefic in the 2nd house and possibly a

malefic in the 10th but not for sure. As you know, LalKitab specifies both

exalted as well debilitated effects for Jupiter in the 2nd as well the 10th

houses. You have to make a judgement based on aspects and positioning of other

planets in reference to Jupiter (or any other planet under consideration.) It

is possible for Jupiter in the 2nd (in the janma kundali) to be a malefic if,

for example, the 8th house is debilitated. An ill aspect from any other house

may also spoil Jupiter. On the other hand, Jupiter in the 10th, can be exalted

if (just one example) Mars, Sun or Venus are in the 4th house. There are

additional conditions which may make Jup 10 as exalted (Please consult

LalKitab.)

 

If a planet is benefic in the natal chart, there is no guarantee that per

annual progression, it will remain a benefic. For a particular year a benefic

may become debilitated (and vice versa) because of positioning in the annual

chart. No planet ever constantly remains benefic or malefic - it goes through

good and not-so-good cycles. Otherwise there will be no challenges and variety

in our lives.

 

In a nutshell, consult LalKitab and see what other aspects are affecting the

planet (both in natal as well as during annual progression.) Lal Kitab, when

describing results of various planets in various houses, has already done the

homework for us - houses of friends, neutrals and enimies have all been taken

into consideration. No planet yields results, good or bad, in isolation - it is

heavily influenced by aspects etc. A complete picture (horoscopes - natal and

progressed) must be evaluated before any pronouncement/decision is made. Any

decision based on just one planet (or planetary position) is likely to cause

erroneous results.

 

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

 

 

 

jlinebrooklyn <jlinebrooklyn wrote:

Greetings to moderator and group.

 

Thank you for responding. To elaborate on the question refeered to in

message 10185.

 

According to the book that is in my possesion the CHART of

FRIENDSHIP AND ENMIYY OF PLANETS : there are three classifications

that a planet falls under, planets will be classified as:

 

1. Friendly planets

2. Enemy planets

3. Planets of Neutral or Equal Powers

 

example.

Jupiter is friendly with Sun, Moon and Mars

Jupiter is enemy to Venus and Mercury

Jupiter is equal in power or is nuetral to Saturn, Rahu and Ketu

 

so, if Jupiter was exalted in House #2 which he owns in a birth chart

and moves to House #10 which is owned by Saturn in the annual chart

since both Jupiter and Saturn are classified to of equal or nuetral

power how will this house effect the planet? will Jupiter become

debilitated? will Jupiter remain exalted? How do I determine the

effect on the native particularly when the question arises that if

the planet in House A is exalted the planet in House B will yeild

exalted results or other planets that are melefic will become benefic

on account of this planets status.

 

I thank you most graciously for your wisdom and insight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.

Answers - Check it out.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri J Line Brooklyn,

 

Exaltation is not synonymous with beneficial, similarly debility is

not synonymous with malefic. They are technical terms and therefore

not interchangeable . In traditional astrology exaltation or

debility is a Rasi specific term. In the Lal Kitab these two terms

are house specific, taking the houses to represent the Rasi.

 

Therefore Jupiter will be called exalted only in the 4th house and

not in the 2nd house. In the second house it will be termed as being

in its pakka ghar and not exalted. Similarly Jupiter will be

considered as debilitated in the 10th house only. Here the 4th house

is taken to represent Cancer the Rasi where the Jupiter is exalted

and the 10th house to represent Capricorn the Rasi where Jupiter is

debilitated.

 

Similarly, The Lal Kitab considers the sun as exalted in the 1st

house { corresponding to Aries } and debilitated in the 7th house {

corresponding to Libra }; or moon exalted in the 2nd house and

debilitated in the 8th house and so on. In this way the houses of

exaltation and debility are fixed for all planets corresponding to

the rasi of exaltation and debility.

 

In the Lal Kitab the word for exaltation is uchcha and for debility

neech. Where as for benefic the word used is nek and for malefic

manda. These terms are not interchangeable.

 

respectfully,

 

KPMiglani

 

 

 

 

 

 

lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia

<rajinderbhatia2002 wrote:

>

>

> JLineBrooklyn:

> Let us take the case of Jupiter. As a general rule of thumb in

Lal Kitab system, Jupiter may be considered a benefic in the 2nd

house and possibly a malefic in the 10th but not for sure. As you

know, LalKitab specifies both exalted as well debilitated effects

for Jupiter in the 2nd as well the 10th houses. You have to make a

judgement based on aspects and positioning of other planets in

reference to Jupiter (or any other planet under consideration.) It

is possible for Jupiter in the 2nd (in the janma kundali) to be a

malefic if, for example, the 8th house is debilitated. An ill aspect

from any other house may also spoil Jupiter. On the other hand,

Jupiter in the 10th, can be exalted if (just one example) Mars, Sun

or Venus are in the 4th house. There are additional conditions which

may make Jup 10 as exalted (Please consult LalKitab.)

>

> If a planet is benefic in the natal chart, there is no guarantee

that per annual progression, it will remain a benefic. For a

particular year a benefic may become debilitated (and vice versa)

because of positioning in the annual chart. No planet ever

constantly remains benefic or malefic - it goes through good and not-

so-good cycles. Otherwise there will be no challenges and variety in

our lives.

>

> In a nutshell, consult LalKitab and see what other aspects are

affecting the planet (both in natal as well as during annual

progression.) Lal Kitab, when describing results of various planets

in various houses, has already done the homework for us - houses of

friends, neutrals and enimies have all been taken into

consideration. No planet yields results, good or bad, in isolation -

it is heavily influenced by aspects etc. A complete picture

(horoscopes - natal and progressed) must be evaluated before any

pronouncement/decision is made. Any decision based on just one

planet (or planetary position) is likely to cause erroneous results.

>

> Respectfully,

> Rajinder Bhatia

>

>

>

> jlinebrooklyn <jlinebrooklyn wrote:

> Greetings to moderator and group.

>

> Thank you for responding. To elaborate on the question refeered to

in

> message 10185.

>

> According to the book that is in my possesion the CHART of

> FRIENDSHIP AND ENMIYY OF PLANETS : there are three classifications

> that a planet falls under, planets will be classified as:

>

> 1. Friendly planets

> 2. Enemy planets

> 3. Planets of Neutral or Equal Powers

>

> example.

> Jupiter is friendly with Sun, Moon and Mars

> Jupiter is enemy to Venus and Mercury

> Jupiter is equal in power or is nuetral to Saturn, Rahu and Ketu

>

> so, if Jupiter was exalted in House #2 which he owns in a birth

chart

> and moves to House #10 which is owned by Saturn in the annual

chart

> since both Jupiter and Saturn are classified to of equal or

nuetral

> power how will this house effect the planet? will Jupiter become

> debilitated? will Jupiter remain exalted? How do I determine the

> effect on the native particularly when the question arises that if

> the planet in House A is exalted the planet in House B will yeild

> exalted results or other planets that are melefic will become

benefic

> on account of this planets status.

>

> I thank you most graciously for your wisdom and insight.

 

> Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone

who knows.

> Answers - Check it out.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri KPMiglani,

Thanks for correcting me - I used malefic - deblitated and benefic - exalted

as being the same. I will be careful in the future.

Thanks again for keeping me honest.

 

Respectfully,

Rajinder Bhatia

 

kpmiglani <kpmiglani wrote:

Dear Shri J Line Brooklyn,

 

Exaltation is not synonymous with beneficial, similarly debility is

not synonymous with malefic. They are technical terms and therefore

not interchangeable . In traditional astrology exaltation or

debility is a Rasi specific term. In the Lal Kitab these two terms

are house specific, taking the houses to represent the Rasi.

 

Therefore Jupiter will be called exalted only in the 4th house and

not in the 2nd house. In the second house it will be termed as being

in its pakka ghar and not exalted. Similarly Jupiter will be

considered as debilitated in the 10th house only. Here the 4th house

is taken to represent Cancer the Rasi where the Jupiter is exalted

and the 10th house to represent Capricorn the Rasi where Jupiter is

debilitated.

 

Similarly, The Lal Kitab considers the sun as exalted in the 1st

house { corresponding to Aries } and debilitated in the 7th house {

corresponding to Libra }; or moon exalted in the 2nd house and

debilitated in the 8th house and so on. In this way the houses of

exaltation and debility are fixed for all planets corresponding to

the rasi of exaltation and debility.

 

In the Lal Kitab the word for exaltation is uchcha and for debility

neech. Where as for benefic the word used is nek and for malefic

manda. These terms are not interchangeable.

 

respectfully,

 

KPMiglani

 

lalkitab , Rajinder Bhatia

<rajinderbhatia2002 wrote:

>

>

> JLineBrooklyn:

> Let us take the case of Jupiter. As a general rule of thumb in

Lal Kitab system, Jupiter may be considered a benefic in the 2nd

house and possibly a malefic in the 10th but not for sure. As you

know, LalKitab specifies both exalted as well debilitated effects

for Jupiter in the 2nd as well the 10th houses. You have to make a

judgement based on aspects and positioning of other planets in

reference to Jupiter (or any other planet under consideration.) It

is possible for Jupiter in the 2nd (in the janma kundali) to be a

malefic if, for example, the 8th house is debilitated. An ill aspect

from any other house may also spoil Jupiter. On the other hand,

Jupiter in the 10th, can be exalted if (just one example) Mars, Sun

or Venus are in the 4th house. There are additional conditions which

may make Jup 10 as exalted (Please consult LalKitab.)

>

> If a planet is benefic in the natal chart, there is no guarantee

that per annual progression, it will remain a benefic. For a

particular year a benefic may become debilitated (and vice versa)

because of positioning in the annual chart. No planet ever

constantly remains benefic or malefic - it goes through good and not-

so-good cycles. Otherwise there will be no challenges and variety in

our lives.

>

> In a nutshell, consult LalKitab and see what other aspects are

affecting the planet (both in natal as well as during annual

progression.) Lal Kitab, when describing results of various planets

in various houses, has already done the homework for us - houses of

friends, neutrals and enimies have all been taken into

consideration. No planet yields results, good or bad, in isolation -

it is heavily influenced by aspects etc. A complete picture

(horoscopes - natal and progressed) must be evaluated before any

pronouncement/decision is made. Any decision based on just one

planet (or planetary position) is likely to cause erroneous results.

>

> Respectfully,

> Rajinder Bhatia

>

>

>

> jlinebrooklyn <jlinebrooklyn wrote:

> Greetings to moderator and group.

>

> Thank you for responding. To elaborate on the question refeered to

in

> message 10185.

>

> According to the book that is in my possesion the CHART of

> FRIENDSHIP AND ENMIYY OF PLANETS : there are three classifications

> that a planet falls under, planets will be classified as:

>

> 1. Friendly planets

> 2. Enemy planets

> 3. Planets of Neutral or Equal Powers

>

> example.

> Jupiter is friendly with Sun, Moon and Mars

> Jupiter is enemy to Venus and Mercury

> Jupiter is equal in power or is nuetral to Saturn, Rahu and Ketu

>

> so, if Jupiter was exalted in House #2 which he owns in a birth

chart

> and moves to House #10 which is owned by Saturn in the annual

chart

> since both Jupiter and Saturn are classified to of equal or

nuetral

> power how will this house effect the planet? will Jupiter become

> debilitated? will Jupiter remain exalted? How do I determine the

> effect on the native particularly when the question arises that if

> the planet in House A is exalted the planet in House B will yeild

> exalted results or other planets that are melefic will become

benefic

> on account of this planets status.

>

> I thank you most graciously for your wisdom and insight.

 

> Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone

who knows.

> Answers - Check it out.

>

>