Guest guest Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Dear All, Need your answer for the for the folowing question: 35 years Cycle of Planets As per Lal Kitab, all planets complete their cycle in span of 35 years time.Break-up is as under : Jupitor-6yrs, Sun-2yrs, Moon-1yr, Venus-3yrs, Mercury-2yrs, Saturn-6yrs, Mars-3yrs, Rahu-6yrs & Ketu-3yrs. Again, as per Lal Kitab, it is not necessary that the Cycle starts from Jupitor, it may start from any other planet depend upon the situation of Planets in the individual Birth Chart. My question : From Birth Chart, how would one can know that his/her Cycle of 35yrs start from the particular planet? Thanks, Rajesh Parikh --- kulbir bains <kulbirbains wrote: > Sir, as per lalkitab the planets placed in the > horoscope are to be taken as a complete unit. > considering isolated planets does not shows a > complete picture. > the planet can be malefic or benefic depending > upon 3 main conditions. > 1. plants own placement. > 2. placement of other planets. its friends, > enemies , pitri rin etc. > 3. the most important condition PALANA i.e. living > in accordance with the boundaries defined a > planatary position. e.g not undetaking daan of > barred items of that planet, upkeeping healthy > relation with the living items of that planet. i.e > like respecting family priest for guru, respecting > small girls, sisters aunts for budh.etc. avoiding > items that have negative influence for that planet. > eg. drinking for uch shani.etc. > the malefic benefic event list is a quick > checklist for diagonising the negative tendency of > that planet thereby prompting upayas. > > Rajesh Parikh <parikh1907 wrote: > To, All the respected Sir, > > I am having little bit confusion about Benefic and > Malefic effects > of planets. > 01 The planets are benefic and malefic by its nature > for example > Sun-> Malefic, Moon->Benefic, Jupitor->Benefic > and so on……………… > 02 As per Lal-Kitab, the planets are also malefic > and Benefic > as per their placement in the houses : > for exmaple : the sun is benefic if it is placed in > house > 1 to 5, 8,9,11 and 12. > 02 Under chapter of Remedies and Effect, the > housewise effects > of plantes are given with condition of its > benefic/maleficness : > for exmaple : > The results of sun in House-1 are as under : > If the sun is Malefic in House-1 , the result and > remedies would > be so on…………………… > If the sun is Benefic in House-1, then the result > and > remedies > would be so on…………………… > MY QUESTION > IF SUN IS ALREADY IDENTIFIED AS BENEFIC OR MALEFIC > > IN HOUSE-1 ON THE BASIS OF ITS PLACEMENT THEN WHAT > > OTHER CRITERIA ARE REQUIRED TO DECIDE ITS BENEFIC > > OR MALEFICNESS IN THE PARTICULAR HOUSE ? > > > ________ > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn > something new > http://in.answers./ > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading > messenger. Know how! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 ==================================================================== MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please keep in mind that the answer provided by " vjayhoo " is not at all relevant to the query posed by Mr. Rajesh Parikh. ==================================================================== The Sun in the First House or AscendantSutras 1-21-If the Sun is posited in the First House or Ascendant, the native will enjoy good health. He will be of bilious constitution and will suffer from diseases of the eye. He will be wise and of good conduct. He will have acidic stomach and will be bereft of knowledge and sense. He will be highly intelligent, will speak less, and will wander away from his native place. He will be happy. If the Sun is in Aries (that is in his sign of exaltation), the native will get name and fame. If such Sun is aspected by benefics, the native will become highly learned. If the Sun is in debilitation (that is, in the sign Libra), the native will be dignified. He will, however, be devoid of learning, and power and be blind. These ill effects will not be felt, if the Sun is aspected by benefics (Jupiter or Venus). If the Sun be in Leo, or Leo Navamsha, the native will acquire lordship over some territory. If the Sun be in Cancer, the native will be knowledgeable. He will, however, suffer from boils in the body. If the Sun be in Capricorn, the native will suffer from heart disease. If the Sun be in Pisces, the native will be subservient to women. If the Sun be in Virgo, the native will be father of daughters only. He will lose his wife and will be ungrateful. The native will enjoy good health if the Sun be in his own sign Leo, but if the Sun is in association with malefics or be in his enemy's sign or sign of debilitation, the native will suffer from fever in his third year. Such unfavourable effects will not be felt if the Sun is aspected by benefics.Comments- The Sun has been considered as a malefic planet in Hindu Astrology and as a benefic by Westerners. We feel that a planet who is source of light and life to the universe and who represents the creator Brahma, should not be termed as a malefic planet although there is no doubt that he is a hot and cruel planet. According to this work the Sun in the ascendant gives good health to the native and he is of good conduct. This is because the Sun is a planet signifying vitality and " Sattva guna " . He suffers from bilious diseases because the Sun is bilious in temperament. He suffers from eye diseases and is bereft of children and knowledge. This can happen when the Sun is afflicted. The Sun being a hot planet and a significator of light and vision can therefore affect those parts of the body which give light and vision, namely, eyes. It is not clear how the Sun who is not a significator of children can deprive the native of progeny unless he is the lord of the 5th house (house of children) and is afflicted by association or aspect. It is said that with the Sun in the ascendant, the native will be bereft of knowledge but he will be highly intelligent. These two statements are contradictory. We believe that the Sun unless is dignified will bestow the native knowledge and learning.Very favourable results have been attributed to the Sun if he is in Aries, that is, his sign of exaltation. This is so because with Aries " as Ascendant the Sun will be lord of 5th house (a trinal and very beneficial house). Moreover the state of exaltation will provide further dignity to an already beneficial trinal lord. He becomes learned because the 5th house signifies intellectual capacity and when lord of such a house is well placed in his sign of exaltation, the native will become highly learned. He also gets name and fame because 5th house is 9th to 9th house which signifies high learning, bhagya and prosperity. For the Sun in Libra (that is, in his sign of debilitation) unfavourable results like being devoid of learning have been indicated. But it is not clear how the author has taken the view that the native will be dignified when the Sun is debilitated in the Ascendant. With Leo as ascendant, the placement of the Sun there is an ideal position for him and naturally very favourable results will follow.The Sun in Cancer as ascendant is said to cause boils in the body. The ascendant represents body of the native and Cancer being a watery sign, the hot effect of the Sun is likely to bring about such troubles. In Pisces the Sun makes the native- subservient to women. The only reason for this can be the placement of the Sun in a female and dual sign in which he perhaps loses his domineering faculty.When the Sun is in Virgo in the ascendant the native will have only daughters and will lose his wife. When Virgo is ascendant, the Sun will be lord of 12th house, that is, the house sixth to 7th (house of wife). The aspect of the unfavourable 12th lord on the 7th house is likely to cause the loss of wife. Virgo being a female sign when containing the Sun is likely to give only daughters. It is also believed that Virgo natives generally get more daughters than sons.For the interest of readers we give below in brief the views given in respect of the Sun's position in the ascendant, by other recognised classical texts:-Brihat Jataka-If the Sun occupies the 1st house at a person's birth he will be valiant, obstinate, will have defective eyes and be cruel hearted. But if Aries be the ascendant, the person will earn himself but will suffer from eye disease. If the Sun be in Leo, the person concerned will be night blind. If Libra be the ascendant, the native will be blind and poor as well. If the ascendant be Cancer with the Sun in it, the person concerned will have inflamed eyes.Saravali states the Sun be in the ascendant the native will be lazy, of quick temper, proud, cruel, valiant and unforgiving. He will have cataract in his eyes if the Sun be in Cancer. He will have defective eye sight, if Sun be in Aries in the ascendant. The Sun in Leo will make the native night blind. If the Sun be in Libra, the native will be poor and issueless.Chamatkar Chintamani-The native who has the Sun in the ascendant has a good nose and body and a high forehead. He is troubled on account of his wife, children and family. He suffers from bilious diseases. He is always travelling. His wealth is not constant. He has ups and downs in this respect.Note-It will be seen that there is consensus that the Sun in the ascendant adversely affects the eyes. Normally the Sun who is himself the source of light cannot take light out of the eyes. This adverse result described above seems to be due to the fact that while in the ascendant the Sun will be posted in a house of loss and expenditure, that is 12th to the second house which t's inter alia significator of eye sight and vision.The Sun in the Second HouseSutras 22-32-If the Sun is in the second house, the native will suffer from diseases of the mouth. In his 25th year he will incur wrath of Government and as a consequence will suffer loss of wealth. This will not happen if the Sun is in Aries (that is, exalted) or in Leo (own sign). If Sun is associated with a malefic, the native will get diseases of the eye, he will have little knowledge of ancient scriptures (Shastras) and will remain in ill health. If the Sun is aspected by benefics the native will be protected from the above evil effects and will become wealthy. If the Sun is with Mercury the native will stammer in speech. If the lord of the second house is posited in his sign of exaltation, the native will talk succinctly and clearly, will have knowledge of ancient scriptures, will be learned, will enjoy good eye sight. This disposition will cause Rajayoga as a result of which native will acquire name, fame and wealth.Comments-Second house is significator of mouth. Here affliction of the Sun therefore causes diseases of the mouth. The second house is also significator of wealth. The Sun represents Govt. Therefore affliction of the house of wealth by the Sun causes loss of wealth by the wrath of Govt. The author says that this event takes place in the 25th year. This can be verified only by practical experience. However, there is no such effect if the Sun and the second house are aspected by benefics (like Jupiter and Venus).In the second house the Sun with malefics is said to cause eye diseases. This is quite understandable as the second house is a significator of eyesight and vision. As the second house will be badly afflicted by the Sun and other malefics, the eyesight will be adversely affected. This disposition will also cause ill health as the Sun signifies vitality and his affliction will weaken vitality and consequently the native will suffer from ill health. It is said that these evil effects will not arise if the Sun (in association with malefics) is aspected by benefics. Our view is that the evil affects will not be entirely wiped off by the aspect of benefics but the diseases^ will respond to curative treatment. He is also likely to acquire wealth if the benefic influence is more dominant than the malefic influence. It is said that if the Sun is with Mercury, the native will stammer in his speech. Generally Mercury who is significator of speech, is combust on account of nearness to the Sun. If Mercury is corn-bust the speaking faculty will be adversely affected. This will not happen if mercury is not combust. Very favourable results have been indicated in the matter of speech, name, fame and wealth if the lord of the second house is in his sign of exaltation. These results will certainly be experienced by the native if the lord of the second house in his position of exaltation is placed in houses other than 3,6,8, and 12.The view of the other important classical tests in regard to effects of the Sun in the second house are given below:- Brihat Jataka-The person concerned will be immensely rich but will be deprived of his wealth by a king and will suffer diseases in the face.Phaldeepika-The person concerned will be devoid of 36 learning, modesty and wealth. He will have defect in his speech.Saravali-The native will possess cattle and servants. He will suffer from disease of the mouth. He will be bereft of fame and comforts. He will acquire wealth from the king or the thieves by questionable means.Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be learned. He will possess cows, horses and elephants. He will incur expenditure on good causes. He will quarrel with members of his family on account of his wife. All his efforts to acquire wealth will go in vain.Note-It will be seen that in essence the effects given by the authors are the same as given by Bhrigu Sutras-In fact the views of the latter are more logical and meaningful.The Sun in the Third HouseSutras 33-42-If the Sun is in the third house, the native will be brotherless (no younger brothers) and his elder brothers will not survive. In the 4th, 5th 8th and the 12th years he will suffer from bodily troubles. If the Sun is associated with a malefic, the Native will do cruel deeds. He will have two mothers and will be valourous because when the Sun alone will deny younger brothers vide Sutra 33, how can he with association of a malefic give two brothers). He will be a brave fighter. He will have a good reputation and will enjoy his wealth. If the Sun is associated with a benefic, the brothers will become prosperous. If the lord of the third house is strong, the brother will be long lived. If the Sun is associated with a malefic and is also aspected by a malefic the family will be destroyed . If the Sun is aspected by a benefic (and has no malefic influence) there will be growth of family and the native will be wealthy, will enjoy good life and will be happy.Comments-It is an accepted principle of Hindu Astrology that malefics in upchaya houses, namely 3,6 10 and 11 give beneficial results. But according to the learned author while the Sun will make the native valourous and wealthy, he will destroy brothers particularly when he is in association with a malefic when he will also destroy the family. The third house being second to the second house (house of family) becomes a marakasthana for the family and malefic influence on the third house will cause destruction of the family. It is said that if the Sun is in association with a malefic, the native will have two mothers. The third house being 12th to the 4fh house, it will be the house of loss for the 4th house (house of mother). Hence it is likely that the native's mother will die and his father after remarriage will provide him with another mother. Benefic influences on the Sun, the third house and the lord of the third house will not only enhance prosperity of the family and brothers who will also be long lived, but such a disposition will also make the native wealthy and happy. If the Sun is associated with benefics, the ninth house (house of bhagya) will be benefically affected by beneficial aspects from the third house. If the Sun is aspected by benefics, this aspect will come mostly from the ninth house. Thus the ninth will give favourable results enabling the native to get name, fame and wealth. The Sun being a planet of vitality will add to the signification of valour and make the native valourous and courageous but being a cruel planet, the Sun will make the native indulge in cruelty.Other ViewsBrihat Jataka-The person concerned will possess a good intellect and great strength.Phaldeepika-The native will be mil of strength, valourous, wealthy and generous but he will be inimical towards his relations.Mansagari-The native will have no brothers. He will do good to his friends and will have wife and children. He will be wealthy, patient, of forgiving nature and will be liked by women.Saravali-The native will be valourous, full of strength, respected, good looking, learned and conqueror of enemies.Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be full of valour. He suffers on account of his real brothers. He goes on pilgrimages and always conquers his enemies in the battle field. He is provided with comforts by the king.Note-If will be seen that except in some respects, the effects of the Sun in the third house given in the above works tally with those given by Bhrigu Sutras. However, Bhrigu Sutras has emphasised the necessity of benefic influence on the Sun and the third house which is logically maintainable.The Sun in Fourth HouseSutras 43-50- If the Sun is in the fourth house, the native will have defective limbs, he will be proud, will be opposed to the public and will be hot constitutionally. In the 32nd year of his life he will get congenial environments. He will then become respected and successful, will be learned, attain a high position and will become valorous. He will not, however, be well off financially. If the lord of 4th house is strong (by being exalted) or is in his own sign and is posited in a quadrant (Kendra) or trine (trikona house namely 1,5 or 9), he will acquire high class conveyances. If the lord of the 4th is associated with or aspected by a malefic or is placed in a bad house (3, 6,8 or 12), the native will have to do with a low type of conveyance. He will have no land of his own and will live in other people's houses.Comments--It is said that the native will have defective limbs if the Sun is in the fourth. This is a very general statement Our view is that because of malefic influence of the Sun only that part of the body can become defective which is governed by the fourth house. The statement that the native will do well in the 32nd year of his life and will attain high position etc. can be verified by practical experience. We have found it correct in only one case so far. It is not clear how after getting a favourable turn in his life and attaining a high position, the native will not be well off financially. Perhaps the Sun will not allow him to accumulate wealth, Bhrigu Sutras-has given great importance to the position of the lord of the 4th house in delineating its effects. This is a very logical and weighty principle. No house can prosper unless its lord is well placed. The fourth house signifies native's own land, own house and his native place. In spite of the Sun being in the fourth house, if the lord of the 4th house is strong and well placed, the native will enjoy the comforts of his own land, house and native place. If the lord of the 4th is ill placed or is otherwise under malefic influence, the native will be deprived of these comforts. It is evident that the Sun alone is not good for the signification of the 4th house. It is surprising that Bhrigu Sutras makes no mention of the mother of which the 4th house is a strong significator. Our view is that the mother will suffer by the presence of the Sun in the 4fh house unless the Sun is in his own sign or has benefic influence on him or the lord of the 4th and the Moon are well placed. The Sun will also adversely affect the domestic happiness of the native.Other ViewsBrihat Jataka-The person concerned will have no happiness and will be troubled in mind.Phaldeepika-The native will be unhappy, without friends and relations and any land or house. He will also lose his paternal property.Mansagari-The native will be very sociable, soft hearted, expert in vocal and instrumental music, conqueror, will enjoy company of his wife and wealth and will be liked by the king.Saravali-The native will be unhappy, without wealth and conveyances, paternal house. He will squander away what he has and will be in the service of a wicked king.Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will always remain away from his native place. He will be defeated by his enemy and will have no peace of mind.Note-It will be seen that all the works mentioned above speak of adverse results on account of the presence of the Sun in the ?fourth house. Their conclusions are logical and relevant to the significations of the fourth house. They do not contradict the views given by Bhrigu Sutras but supplement them. Only Manasagari has given beneficial results with which we respectfully express our dissent. In our practical experience, we have seen Sun in 4th house (without any benefic influence) playing havoc with the lives of people. One Makar Lagna (Capricorn Ascendant) native had Sun in Aries (exalted) in the 4fh house. She had at one time been a leading actress in the Indian films. We have no words to describe the wretched life she was leading in her mid-forties when she met us. Not bad off financially (as her horoscope was otherwise good), she had a very disturbing domestic life and had absolutely no peace of mind. Her husband and children had all joined against her to make her life miserable. The Sun in the Fifth HouseSutras 51-58-If the Sun is in the fifth house, the native will be poor, of bulky body and in his seventh year his father will face death, serious illness or misfortune. The native will be wise and brilliant but will have few children. If the lord of the 5th is well placed and strong there will be no death of sons. If the Sun is associated with Rahu or Ketu, there will be loss of children due to curse of the Serpent God. If the Sun is in conjunction with Mars, there will be loss of children due to enemy but there will be no such loss if the combination of the Sun and Rahu or the Sun and Ketu or the Sun and Mars is aspected by a benefic (Jupiter or Venus). When the Sun is in the fifth house the native will become a devotee of the Sun God. If the Sun is strong the children will be prosperous.Comments-The 5th is 9th to 9th house and is therefore treated as a house of fortune (Bhagya) also. The author's view seems to be that the Sun as a malefic afflicts the 5th house and therefore the native remains devoid of wealth. While we agree with this view, we also hold the view that the native will have good fortune if the Sun becomes a functional benefic on account of lordship of an auspicious house. The Sun is a functional benefic, (a) For Taurus Ascendant when as lord of the 4th in 5th , (6) Leo Ascendant when as lord of the Ascendant, he will be in the 5th, © for Libra Ascendant when he will be lord of 11th in the 5th , (d) for Scorpio Ascendant when as lord of the 10th he will be in the 5th and (e) for Sagittarius Ascendant when as lord of the 9th he will be in the 5th in Aries, his sign of exaltation. In these cases the Sun in 5th will make the native wealthy, learned, respected and very intelligent. There is no doubt that affliction of the Sun by Rahu, Ketu or Mars in the 5th house will cause loss of children unless there is a powerful influence of a benefic on the 5th house. The adverse results may also not occur if the lord of the 5th and Jupiter (significator of children) are well placed and have benefic influence on them. It is said that if the Sun is strong in the fifth, the sons will be prosperous. This will happen only when the Sun is in his own sign Leo or when the Sun is in Aries his sign of exaltation. When the Sun is posited in these signs, the native will not only be well off himself, he will be blessed with healthy and prosperous children who will be a source of happiness to him.Other ViewsBrihat Jataka-The person concerned will be childless and with out wealth.Phaldeepika-The native will be bereft of happiness, wealth and children. He will also be short lived. He will be intelligent and wise and will be fond of wandering in the jungles.Saravali-The native will be unhappy, poor, without children, agriculturist, resident of mountainous regions, wise, without bodily strength and short lived.Chamatkar Chintamani- The native will lose his eldest son. He will be very intelligent and will influence others by his superior knowledge. He will accumulate wealth. He will die on account of some stomach ailment.Note-It will be seen that the views expressed in the above recognised works tally in essence with those expressed in Bhrigu Sutras. As we have already stated in our detailed comments above, the adverse results such as loss of children etc. with the Sun in the 5th will be experienced with ascendants other than Aries, Taurus, Leo, Libra, Scorpio and Sagittarius. Of course adverse results may be expected in the case of all the ascendants when the Sun, the fifth house, lord of the 5th and Jupiter are under malefic influence. The accumulation of wealth as mentioned in Chamatkar Chintamani will happen only when the Sun in the 5th is a functional benefic. This work also says that native will. die from a stomach ailment. The reasoning behind this statement is that the 5th house represents amongst other things the stomach also. The affliction of the 5th house by the Sun will cause stomach ailments.The Sun in the Sixth HouseSutras 59-68-If the Sun is in the sixth house, the native will belong to lower caste. He will have many enemies but will be very well off financially. In his twentieth year the native will suffer from eye diseases, but if the Sun is aspected by a benefic, he will not suffer from eye afflictions. The native will wander in jungles and will take great interest in chanting* mantras. He will have good reputation but he will have mental worries and will be constitutionally hot. If the lord of the sixth is associated with a benefic, the native will enjoy good health. He will have many relations and many enemies. If the lord of the sixth is weak, there will be destruction of enemies. The father will also possess a weak constitution.Comments-The Sun is a royal planet and belongs to high caste but when he is placed in the sixth which is a bad house (Dusthana), the native will belong to a backward caste. The sixth house is significator of diseases and enemies. Ill placement of the Sun will cause eye diseases (the Sun being significator of vision) and growth of enemies. Sixth is also an upachaya house where malefics bring name, fame and wealth to the native. The Sun in sixth will give this good benefit to the native. The Sun is ar significator of mountains and jungles. Ill placement of the Sun will make the native wander in jungles, but as satva guna planet, the Sun will make the native take interest in chanting mantras to protect himself from difficulties. The native will have mental worries because of enemies and ill health.It is stated in Sutras 65-66 that if the lord of the sixth is in conjunction with a benefic the results will be (a) the native will enjoy good health (6) there will be an increase of enemies. To us these two effects appear to be contradictory.As the sixth house signifies enemies and diseases, a benefic influence on the lord of the sixth should decrease the ill effect of both diseases and enemies.According to Sutras 67-68 there will be destruction of enemies if the lord of the sixth is weak. We entirely agree with this principle. The logic behind this principle seems to be that if the lord of the sixth is strong, the evil signification of the sixth house will gain strength and there will be great harm and trouble from the enemies. If the lord is weak, the significations will become weak and there will be destruction of enemies or there may be no enemies. A lord of an evil house becomes more harmful if it becomes strong and it becomes a benefic when it is weak. We would like to mention here that if the Sun is placed in his own sign Leo in the sixth house, only good results should be expected. Of course in such a situation there should not be any malefic influence on the Sun.Other ViewsBrihat Jataka-The person born will be powerful but will be over powered by his enemies.Phaldeepika-The native will be glorious like a king. He will be famous, wealthy, endowed with good qualities and a conqueror.Saravali-The native will be very passionate, will suffer from acidic troubles, will be powerful, wealthy, a king or like a king.Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be destroyer of enemies. His wealth will be spent on the king (Government, or on friends. He will be troubled by maternal relations and animals and tribals.Note-All are agreed that the Sun in the sixth house gives the native, wealth, good reputation and high position but bad health and enemies. The above views maybe taken into account along with the views expressed by Bhrigu. Sutras which appear to be more logical and based on well established astrological principles.The Sun in the Seventh HouseSutras 69-74-If the Sun is in the seventh house the marriage of the native will take place late (that is, long after the marriageable age). He will not respect the opposite sex. He will indulge in sexual relations with women other than his wife. He will have more than one wife. In his 25th year he will travel to a place far away from his native land. He will be witty and fond of non-vegetarian food. He will not have fair dealings with his wife. He will be of unstable mind. If the Sun is posited in his own sign Leo, the native will live with only one wife. If the Sun is associated with an enemy or debilitated planet, or if he is associated with or aspected by a malefic, the native will have a number of wives (or will have sexual contacts with many women.) Comments-It is clear from what is stated above that the placement of the Sun in the 7th house is not at all favourable for marital relations except when he is in own sign Leo. The marriage of the native will be delayed probably because of his incapability to settle down with one woman. Further being a malefic planet he will spoil the normal significations of the 7th house. The Sun is a hot planet. He also signifies vitality and virility. The native will therefore be abnormally passionate and will run after more than one woman to satisfy his carnal desires. This vice will be further accentuated when there are malefic influences on the Sun as described in Sutras 73 and 74. Sutra 70 says that the native will go away to a far off place if the Sun is in the seventh in his horoscope. We remember of one case about the correctness of this statement which was reported in one of the issues of Prof B.V. Raman's Astrological magazine. We would advise the readers to verify this by practical experience.Other ViewsBrihat Jataka-The person concerned should suffer humiliation at the hands of women.Phaldeepika-Some part of the body of the native will be afflicted. The native will act against the interests of the Govt. He will wander aimlessly and get humiliated. The native will be devoid of happiness from wife.Saravali-The native will be without luster on his face, he will get humiliated in public, he will suffer from diseases and will do deeds which may lead him into prison. He will be immoral and will have no respect for women.Chamatkar Chintamani-The wife of the native will suffer. The body of the native will be afflicted. He will always be worrying. He will suffer loss in business. Because of his jealous nature he will never get proper sleep.Note-It is clear from the above views that if the Sun is in the 7th house, the native will be immoral in all sorts of ways. Because of his immoral nature, he will get involved in affairs which will lead to his humiliation by women. For the same reason his marital life will not be happy. He will not be patriotic and will act against the king or Government. For this reason he may have to wander here and there. As far as the immorality of the native is concerned the views expressed in Bhrigu Sutras are supported by the authorities mentioned above.The Sun in the Eighth HouseSutras 75-82-If the Sun is in the eighth house the native will get few children. He will suffer from eye diseases. In the 10th year he will suffer from a head injury but he will not get this if the Sun is aspected by a benefic. The native will have meager wealth and the domestic cattle, cow, buffaloes belonging to the native will get destroyed. He will suffer from chronic ailments of the body but he will be famous. If the*lord of eighth is associated with strong planets, the native will become owner of the land of his choice. If the Sun is exalted (in Aries) or in his own sign (Leo), the native will be long lived.Comments-The native will suffer from eye diseases as the Sun in the eighth house afflicts by powerful aspect the 2nd house which is a significator of eye sight and right eye. His suffering from head injury in the 10th year is a matter for verification by practical experience, but accidents is one of the significations of the eighth house and the head injury might be caused by some sort of accident. He will have meager wealth because of the affliction by aspect of the 2nd house which is the house of wealth (Dhana Bhava). It is difficult to explain how cattle of the native will be destroyed by the presence of the Sun in the eighth house and it is again a matter for verification by practical experience. The eighth house signifies chronic diseases, so the native will suffer from such diseases on account of the malefic influence of the Sun in this house. The Sun is a planet of longevity and his being strong by being in exaltation or by his being in his own sign will enhance the span of life of the native. The native getting land of his own choice if the Sun is associated with strong planets, is not clear to us. The eighth house has nothing to do with lands. In fact if the Sun as lord of the 4th is in the 8th, the native is likely to lose the lands or the house he possesses. However, a benefic and strong Sun may bring land to the natives by inheritance.Other ViewsBrihat Jataka-The native will have a limited number of issues and will have defective eye sight.Phaldeepika-There will be loss of wealth, loss of longevity, loss of friends, poor eye sight.Saravali-The native will suffer from eye troubles, will be devoid of happiness and wealth, will be short lived and unhappy because of separation from near and dear ones.Chamatkar Chintamani- The native will always be ready to do any work entrusted to him. He will always be in difficulty. He will have close relations with foreign women. He will be a drug addict. His money will be stolen by thieves. He will suffer from diseases of the secret organs.Note- Except the views of Chamatkar Chintamani. the views of the other authorities mentioned above tally with the conclusions of Bhrigu Sutras. The views of Chamatkar Chintamani are also relevant to the significations of the eighth house.The Sun in the Ninth HouseSutras 83-87-If the Sun is in the 9th, native will be a devotee of the Sun and other Gods. He will be religious-minded but not much fortunate and will be inimical to father. If the Sun is exalted or is in his own sign the results will be very favourable namely, the native will be blessed with wife and children. The native's father will be long lived. He will also be very wealthy, will take interest in religious rites and meditation and will be devoted to the preceptor and God. If the Sun is posited in his sign of debilitation (Libra), enemy or malefic sign or if he is aspected by a malefic, there will be loss of father (this means that this disposition will adversely affect the longevity of the father). If the Sun is aspected by or associated with a benefic, the father will be long lived.Comments-The ninth house being house of Dharma, the presence of a Sattva guna planet like the Sun makes the native religious minded and a devotee of God, but its other significations suffer on account of the Sun being a malefic planet. He will become less fortunate and the native will have inimical relations with his, father (ninth house is a significator for father). Being 5th to 5th the ninth is also house of children. It is also house of prosperity and Bhagya. If the Sun is exalted (in this situation the ascendant will be Leo, and Sun as lord of ascendant will be exalted in the ninth house, an excellent disposition), or in his own sign Leo (this position of lord of the ninth being in the ninth will generate a powerful Raja Yoga), all the good results of the ninth house will be magnified. The native will be blessed with wife and children, he will be very fortunate-and prosperous, he will have great faith in religion, he will pay respect to the preceptor and God and his father will be well off and long lived. Malefic influence on the Sun (and consequently also on the ninth house) will not only adversely affect the longevity of the father but also other significations of this house. Benefic influence will cancel the malefic results.Other Views-Brihat Jataka-The person concerned will be endowed with children, wealth and happiness.Phaldeepika-The father of the native will not be happy and be shortlived. The native will get happiness from children and relations, and will pay respect to Brahmins (religious leaders) and God.Saravali-The native will be wealthy, blessed with children, devotee of Brahmins and God and inimical towards mother.Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be an evil person, he will always be mentally worried, he will perform religious rites unwillingly and will suffer from the hands of his real brothers.Note-The views of the above authorities are self explanatory. It is not clear how Saravali refers to mother when the Sun and ninth house have nothing to do with her. We would prefer to give more weight to the views expressed in Bhrigu Sutras in which a very clear distinction has been in effects as a result of benefic and malefic, weak and strong disposition of the Sun and also of the benefic and malefic influences on the Sun and the ninth house. Evidently, Brihat Jataka and Saravali have given the effects of a favourably disposed Sun and Phaldeepika and Chamatkar Chintamani have given effects of the Sun according to his normal significations (that is as a malefic but sattva guna planet).The Sun in the Tenth HouseSutras 88-95-If the Sun is in the tenth house, the native will make distinctive achievements in the educational sphere by his 18th year, and will become famous and quite capable of learning well. If three planets aspect the Sun, the native will be liked by -the king (Government), he will do pious deeds, will be very brave and valorous and earn good reputation. If the Sun is exalted (that is, he is in Aries) or is in his own sign Leo, the native will become powerful and famous on account of his good qualities and achievements. He will construct reservoirs and temples and places for housing cows and Brahmins. If the Sun is in the sign of a malefic, or is aspected by or associated with a malefic, there will be obstructions in his professional career. He will indulge in evil deeds, will be of undesirable conduct, immoral and sinful.Comments- The Sun is considered powerful in the 10th house as he gets directional strength in this house. If not afflicted by malefic influence, the Sun will give all the favourable results mentioned above. When the Sun is exalted in the 10th, the ascendant will be Cancer and the Sun as exalted .lord of the 2nd house (house of wealth) will be in 10th. This will give rise to an excellent Dhanayoga which will make the native very wealthy and prosperous and a man of high status as will be seen from the following horoscope of the late Pandit Moti Lal Nehru. If the Sun is in his own sign Leo the lord of 10th will be in 10th giving rise to a powerful Rajayoga and no achievement will be too high for him. The tenth house is also house of Karma. It is therefore but natural that benefic influences on the Sun and the tenth house and its dignity will make the native do pious deeds, and malefic influence will turn him immoral and make him indulge in evil and sinful deeds.As far as the effects of the aspect of the three planets on the Sun as mentioned in Sutra 89, we see no logic behind the conclusion arrived at. We leave it to the readers to verify this from their practical experience.Other ViewsBrihat Jataka-The person concerned will be happy and powerful.Phaldeepika-The native will be blessed with children and will have all comfort'of conveyances. He will be wise, wealthy, powerful and of good reputation.Saravali-The native will be blessed with children and will be wise and wealthy. He will enjoy the comfort of conveyances. He will achieve success in his profession, will remain unconquered and will be noble and will attain high status.Chamatkar Chintamard-The native win achieve success in his work like a king. He will cause pain to his mother (as Sun as a malefic aspects the fourth house which is significator for mother) and will get separated from his relations. He will always be mentally worried.Note-Readers will not fail to realise that good effects given by Brihat Jataka, Phaldeepika and Chamatkar Chintamani are of the Sun in the tenth house when he is dignified and has benefic influences. Very clear distinction has been made of the effects of such influences in the conclusions given in Bhrigu Sutras.The Sun in the Eleventh HouseSutras 96-102-If the Sun is in the eleventh house the native will have substantial income from agricultural operations. In his 25th year he will acquire conveyances. By the use of his wealth and diplomatic talk, he will be able to acquire more wealth. He will suffer from a serious kind of fever and will have cordial relations with his employees. If the Sun is with a malefic he will incur lot of expenditure and will be without any conveyance. If the Sun is in his own sign or is exalted, he will have immense wealth. If the Sun is in conjunction with the lord of the 4th house, he will have sources of income at many places and will acquire conveyances and will be very fortunate.Comments- 11th is an upachaya house and is very auspicious and beneficial for almost all planets unless they are lords of bad houses or there is malefic influence on them. The Sun in the 11th according to Sutra 96 gives substantial income from agricultural operations. The native also acquires conveyances and is able to gain wealth by talking in a diplomatic manner according to Sutra 97. Diplomacy is acquired by the native as the Sun aspects the 5th house which signifies diplomacy. If the Sun is in his own sign or is exalted the acquisition of wealth will be more accentuated but if the Sun is associated with a malefic there will be loss of wealth probably on account of native becoming extravagant. He will also not possess any conveyance. The conjunction of the Sun with the lord of 4th has been stated to be. very beneficial to the native. Although it is not mentioned in the above Sutras, conjunction of the Sun with the lord of 2nd, 1st or 9th would also be very beneficial particularly when the Sun be in his own sign.Other ViewsBrihat Jataka-The Sun in the i 1th house will make the person born wealthy.Phaldeepika-The native will be wealthy, longlived and happy. He will have command over many persons, that is, he will be of high status.Saravali-The native will accumulate wealth, will be powerful, will hate others, will be without servants, will stick to his words and will be successful in his ventures.Chamatkar Chifitamani-The native will acquire wealth from the king (Government) and possess many kinds of wealth. He will destroy his enemies by his valour but will be unhappy in the matter of children.Note-The eleventh house is a house of gains and all the authorities mentioned above agree with Bhirgu Sutras that the placement of the Sun in this house is beneficial for acquisition of wealth.The Sun in the Twelfth HouseSutras 103-110-If the Sun is in the 12th house, the native will suffer from appendicitis in the 36th year of his life. He will waste his money on undesirable purposes, he will be sinful and will incur loss of wealth. He will be accused of killing a cow and will live away from his native land. If the Sun is associated with strong and auspicious planet or planets the native will enjoy blessings of God. He will also enjoy bed comforts (sexual pleasures). If the Sun is in conjunction with malefics the native will incur wasteful expenditure and will be deprived of bed comforts. If the Sun is associated with the lord of the sixth house the native will suffer from leprosy but he will recover from this disease if a benefic aspects the Sun. The presence of the Sun in the 12th also will make the native sinful and there will be aggravation of the diseases he suffers from.Comments-The 12th is a house of loss in all respects. It. Is also a dusthana. The important significations of this house may be seen in Part I-Chapter II. When the 12th house is occupied by a malefic planet, the significations of the house play their full role. The Sun in the 12th will give only unfavourable results described above. The results will not be so unfavourable if there is a benefic planet in the 12th but whether the planet is a benefic or a malefic, the significations of the house he owns will also suffer badly. If, however, The Sun be in his own sign Leo in the 12th, the results will be good and beneficial to the native. This disposition will give rise to 'Vipreet Rajayoga'.Other ViewsBrihat Jataka-The person will suffer degradation.Phaldeepika-The native will be inimical towards his father. He will suffer from eye troubles. He will be without wealth and childless.Saravali-The native will have a lean body. He will be one eyed, sinful, childless, inimical to his father, powerless and mean.Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will suffer from eye troubles. He will be victorious in the battlefield. He will live at only one place to earn his livelihood. He will gain wealth during journeys.Note-All the authorities except Chamatkar Chintamani agree with the views of Bhrigu Sutras that inauspicious results follow from the placement of the Sun in 12th house according to significations of this house. They have not given the effects of the benefic influences on the Sun, as described in Bhrigu Sutras. lalkitab , Rajesh Parikh <parikh1907 wrote: > > Dear All, > Need your answer for the for the folowing question: > 35 years Cycle of Planets > > As per Lal Kitab, all planets complete their cycle in > span of 35 years > time.Break-up is as under : > Jupitor-6yrs, Sun-2yrs, Moon-1yr, Venus-3yrs, > Mercury-2yrs, > Saturn-6yrs, Mars-3yrs, Rahu-6yrs & Ketu-3yrs. > Again, as per Lal Kitab, it is not necessary that the > Cycle starts > from Jupitor, it may start from any other planet > depend upon the > situation of Planets in the individual Birth Chart. > My question : > From Birth Chart, how would one can know that his/her > Cycle of > 35yrs start from the particular planet? > > Thanks, > Rajesh Parikh > > > > > > > > --- kulbir bains <kulbirbains wrote: > > > Sir, as per lalkitab the planets placed in the > > horoscope are to be taken as a complete unit. > > considering isolated planets does not shows a > > complete picture. > > the planet can be malefic or benefic depending > > upon 3 main conditions. > > 1. plants own placement. > > 2. placement of other planets. its friends, > > enemies , pitri rin etc. > > 3. the most important condition PALANA i.e. living > > in accordance with the boundaries defined a > > planatary position. e.g not undetaking daan of > > barred items of that planet, upkeeping healthy > > relation with the living items of that planet. i.e > > like respecting family priest for guru, respecting > > small girls, sisters aunts for budh.etc. avoiding > > items that have negative influence for that planet. > > eg. drinking for uch shani.etc. > > the malefic benefic event list is a quick > > checklist for diagonising the negative tendency of > > that planet thereby prompting upayas. > > > > Rajesh Parikh <parikh1907 wrote: > > To, All the respected Sir, > > > > I am having little bit confusion about Benefic and > > Malefic effects > > of planets. > > 01 The planets are benefic and malefic by its nature > > for example > > Sun-> Malefic, Moon->Benefic, Jupitor->Benefic > > and so on?????? > > 02 As per Lal-Kitab, the planets are also malefic > > and Benefic > > as per their placement in the houses : > > for exmaple : the sun is benefic if it is placed in > > house > > 1 to 5, 8,9,11 and 12. > > 02 Under chapter of Remedies and Effect, the > > housewise effects > > of plantes are given with condition of its > > benefic/maleficness : > > for exmaple : > > The results of sun in House-1 are as under : > > If the sun is Malefic in House-1 , the result and > > remedies would > > be so on???????? > > If the sun is Benefic in House-1, then the result > > and > > remedies > > would be so on???????? > > MY QUESTION > > IF SUN IS ALREADY IDENTIFIED AS BENEFIC OR MALEFIC > > > > IN HOUSE-1 ON THE BASIS OF ITS PLACEMENT THEN WHAT > > > > OTHER CRITERIA ARE REQUIRED TO DECIDE ITS BENEFIC > > > > OR MALEFICNESS IN THE PARTICULAR HOUSE ? > > > > > > > ________ > > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn > > something new > > http://in.answers./ > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading > > messenger. Know how! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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