Question about Black Magic To Kulbir Ji, Tarriin & Riaz Ji

[Guest guest]

Dear Kulbir Ji

 

What r u doing in these days. Chori ayyaari makkari are the SIFT of

Rahu not saturn & Mangal Bad doesn't assigns bhoot pret. Lalkitab says

Jin Bhoot as diety of Mangal Bad.It means .But Jin bhoot are not Karakas

of Mangal Bad. In my opinion Saturn , Merc & Rahu r the focus points to

analyze Black mazic. Bcoz

 

1.saturn has attribute of JAADU MANTAR DEKHNA DIKHAANE KI TAQAT KA MALIK

(page no.1004 edition 1952)

 

2. budh is described as bhoot , Murdaa , Bhoot Pret chamgaadad . ( Page

No. 1007 edition) 1952)

 

3. Rahu is chaalbaaz Makkar Neech Jaalim (Page no. 1007 edition 1952),

Rahu has been called as ---- Maut Ka bahaanaa ghadne wali taqat, Thaggee

chori aur ayyari ka sargana ( Page No. 644 ,edition 1952 ). & u know

that this is the owner of mental waves (dimaghi laherain).

 

So much role of bad budh with the help of saturn & rahu seems to be

victim of Black Magic of anyone.

 

Now the question is how can be cured from Black magic. In fact no more

cases i attended during my practice. But for some of them i suggested to

go to BALA JI (Hanuman Ji) in Rajasthan. & after some time they

improoved themselves. U know that Hanuman Ji called as DEVTAA of Mangal

nek in lalkitab. It means if any UPAASAK OR TANTRIK OF BHOOT JINS ( due

to his Mangal Bad activities) uses his black mazic for destruction then

Mangal nek can save from that & 2nd option is to go to the chamber of

Mangal bad , i mean to say become UPAASAK OF BHOOT JIN. But lalkitab

doesnt support for this .It says---MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI BARKAT SE

KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE WALE JALIM SHER KE SAAMNE EK AISI GAIBI

DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD SAKE

........................................SHER PAR NA GOLI CHALAAYEGAA NA

HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

 

So as remedy there can be different ways with the help

of Mangal Nek (Hanuman Ji) after analyzation. Even u can read in

hanumaan chaalisaa ---- BHOOT PISHAACH NIKAT NAHI AAVAIN, MAHAAVEER JAB

NAAM SUNAVAIN.

 

I expressed my views as a result of reading, but knowledge & research

has no limit & we have so much limitations with limits.So I welcome for

views of spledourous researchers & personalities with down head.

 

With Regards

 

Lalkitabee

 

Mr. Riaz asking to know the effect of Black Magic through Horoscope

about the

lalkitab , kulbir bains <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Sir, lakitab particularly assigns (black magic) bhoot pret jinnat to

mangal badh, chori aayari maakri to shani. native's inclination, effects

if any could be ascertained on the basis of these 2 planets plus 8th

house.

> kulbir bains

>

> ITWizard itwiz wrote:

> Salaams to all the Gurus and the rest of the group,

>

> I have been reading into subjects of occult i.e. Jyotish, Astrology

etc. for many years and happen to understand the basics of it (would

love to learn a lot and trying to learn). I recently happen to come

across this group and joined in as a member.

>

> I have this question for all the Gurus of the subject out here, and I

am sorry if this has been discussed here before. Can effects of black

magic be diagnosed in anyone's chart ? Are their cures for it in Lal

Kitab ? If so, can these remedies work and win against the strongest

attacks of black magic ?

>

> Regards,

>

> Riaz

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear LalKitabee,

 

Thanks for an elaborated answer. I have a question here from the following quote

mentioned in your email:

 

MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI BARKAT SE KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE WALE JALIM SHER

KE SAAMNE EK AISI GAIBI

DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD SAKE

........................................SHER PAR NA GOLI CHALAAYEGAA NA

HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

 

What is referred as [ Mazmoon Baaz ] ?

 

Secondly I would like to request yourself and all other gurus of this forum to

look into my chart and tell me what is wrong and what is the remedy for it.

Myself and my elder brother has been suffering from this which has effected the

WHOLE family as we are the two pillars of the family. For over a year we are out

of job and even a single potential of earning any money from any source just

gets destroyed or vanishes. We are now at a stage which cannot be described here

in detail. Gone out to many people for help, came across numerous frauds too.

Some of the genuine people did indicate black magic but also said that their

powers are limited and cannot treat this. Some did give it a try but failed to

give any results. I also lost my mother in strange conditions before couple of

months. I had taken her to India for treatment.

 

Any body providing some assistance would be helping us the adults of the family

and our small children.

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

Regards,

 

Riaz

 

 

 

 

-

lalkitabee

lalkitab

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:06 AM

[lalkitab] Re: Question about Black Magic To Kulbir Ji, Tarriin &

Riaz Ji

 

 

 

Dear Kulbir Ji

 

What r u doing in these days. Chori ayyaari makkari are the SIFT of

Rahu not saturn & Mangal Bad doesn't assigns bhoot pret. Lalkitab says

Jin Bhoot as diety of Mangal Bad.It means .But Jin bhoot are not Karakas

of Mangal Bad. In my opinion Saturn , Merc & Rahu r the focus points to

analyze Black mazic. Bcoz

 

1.saturn has attribute of JAADU MANTAR DEKHNA DIKHAANE KI TAQAT KA MALIK

(page no.1004 edition 1952)

 

2. budh is described as bhoot , Murdaa , Bhoot Pret chamgaadad . ( Page

No. 1007 edition) 1952)

 

3. Rahu is chaalbaaz Makkar Neech Jaalim (Page no. 1007 edition 1952),

Rahu has been called as ---- Maut Ka bahaanaa ghadne wali taqat, Thaggee

chori aur ayyari ka sargana ( Page No. 644 ,edition 1952 ). & u know

that this is the owner of mental waves (dimaghi laherain).

 

So much role of bad budh with the help of saturn & rahu seems to be

victim of Black Magic of anyone.

 

Now the question is how can be cured from Black magic. In fact no more

cases i attended during my practice. But for some of them i suggested to

go to BALA JI (Hanuman Ji) in Rajasthan. & after some time they

improoved themselves. U know that Hanuman Ji called as DEVTAA of Mangal

nek in lalkitab. It means if any UPAASAK OR TANTRIK OF BHOOT JINS ( due

to his Mangal Bad activities) uses his black mazic for destruction then

Mangal nek can save from that & 2nd option is to go to the chamber of

Mangal bad , i mean to say become UPAASAK OF BHOOT JIN. But lalkitab

doesnt support for this .It says---MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI BARKAT SE

KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE WALE JALIM SHER KE SAAMNE EK AISI GAIBI

DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD SAKE

.......................................SHER PAR NA GOLI CHALAAYEGAA NA

HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

 

So as remedy there can be different ways with the help

of Mangal Nek (Hanuman Ji) after analyzation. Even u can read in

hanumaan chaalisaa ---- BHOOT PISHAACH NIKAT NAHI AAVAIN, MAHAAVEER JAB

NAAM SUNAVAIN.

 

I expressed my views as a result of reading, but knowledge & research

has no limit & we have so much limitations with limits.So I welcome for

views of spledourous researchers & personalities with down head.

 

With Regards

 

Lalkitabee

 

Mr. Riaz asking to know the effect of Black Magic through Horoscope

about the

lalkitab , kulbir bains <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Sir, lakitab particularly assigns (black magic) bhoot pret jinnat to

mangal badh, chori aayari maakri to shani. native's inclination, effects

if any could be ascertained on the basis of these 2 planets plus 8th

house.

> kulbir bains

>

> ITWizard itwiz wrote:

> Salaams to all the Gurus and the rest of the group,

>

> I have been reading into subjects of occult i.e. Jyotish, Astrology

etc. for many years and happen to understand the basics of it (would

love to learn a lot and trying to learn). I recently happen to come

across this group and joined in as a member.

>

> I have this question for all the Gurus of the subject out here, and I

am sorry if this has been discussed here before. Can effects of black

magic be diagnosed in anyone's chart ? Are their cures for it in Lal

Kitab ? If so, can these remedies work and win against the strongest

attacks of black magic ?

>

> Regards,

>

> Riaz

>

>

[Guest guest]

Respected guruji many many thanx for this elaborate explanation. aapke shabdon

ko poora samjhne ke liye 1-2 days kam se kam lagane padenge.

kulbir bains

 

lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote:

 

Dear Kulbir Ji

 

What r u doing in these days. Chori ayyaari makkari are the SIFT of

Rahu not saturn & Mangal Bad doesn't assigns bhoot pret. Lalkitab says

Jin Bhoot as diety of Mangal Bad.It means .But Jin bhoot are not Karakas

of Mangal Bad. In my opinion Saturn , Merc & Rahu r the focus points to

analyze Black mazic. Bcoz

 

1.saturn has attribute of JAADU MANTAR DEKHNA DIKHAANE KI TAQAT KA MALIK

(page no.1004 edition 1952)

 

2. budh is described as bhoot , Murdaa , Bhoot Pret chamgaadad . ( Page

No. 1007 edition) 1952)

 

3. Rahu is chaalbaaz Makkar Neech Jaalim (Page no. 1007 edition 1952),

Rahu has been called as ---- Maut Ka bahaanaa ghadne wali taqat, Thaggee

chori aur ayyari ka sargana ( Page No. 644 ,edition 1952 ). & u know

that this is the owner of mental waves (dimaghi laherain).

 

So much role of bad budh with the help of saturn & rahu seems to be

victim of Black Magic of anyone.

 

Now the question is how can be cured from Black magic. In fact no more

cases i attended during my practice. But for some of them i suggested to

go to BALA JI (Hanuman Ji) in Rajasthan. & after some time they

improoved themselves. U know that Hanuman Ji called as DEVTAA of Mangal

nek in lalkitab. It means if any UPAASAK OR TANTRIK OF BHOOT JINS ( due

to his Mangal Bad activities) uses his black mazic for destruction then

Mangal nek can save from that & 2nd option is to go to the chamber of

Mangal bad , i mean to say become UPAASAK OF BHOOT JIN. But lalkitab

doesnt support for this .It says---MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI BARKAT SE

KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE WALE JALIM SHER KE SAAMNE EK AISI GAIBI

DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD SAKE

........................................SHER PAR NA GOLI CHALAAYEGAA NA

HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

 

So as remedy there can be different ways with the help

of Mangal Nek (Hanuman Ji) after analyzation. Even u can read in

hanumaan chaalisaa ---- BHOOT PISHAACH NIKAT NAHI AAVAIN, MAHAAVEER JAB

NAAM SUNAVAIN.

 

I expressed my views as a result of reading, but knowledge & research

has no limit & we have so much limitations with limits.So I welcome for

views of spledourous researchers & personalities with down head.

 

With Regards

 

Lalkitabee

 

Mr. Riaz asking to know the effect of Black Magic through Horoscope

about the

lalkitab , kulbir bains <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Sir, lakitab particularly assigns (black magic) bhoot pret jinnat to

mangal badh, chori aayari maakri to shani. native's inclination, effects

if any could be ascertained on the basis of these 2 planets plus 8th

house.

> kulbir bains

>

> ITWizard itwiz wrote:

> Salaams to all the Gurus and the rest of the group,

>

> I have been reading into subjects of occult i.e. Jyotish, Astrology

etc. for many years and happen to understand the basics of it (would

love to learn a lot and trying to learn). I recently happen to come

across this group and joined in as a member.

>

> I have this question for all the Gurus of the subject out here, and I

am sorry if this has been discussed here before. Can effects of black

magic be diagnosed in anyone's chart ? Are their cures for it in Lal

Kitab ? If so, can these remedies work and win against the strongest

attacks of black magic ?

>

> Regards,

>

> Riaz

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Riaz Sahib

 

You have asked What is referred as [ Mazmoon Baaz ] ?

 

My dear Friend, it is not Mazmoon Baaz, Mazmoon is a separate word and the

next word is Baaz-Aukaat (sometimes).

 

Yogaj Prabhakar

 

 

 

 

 

ITWizard <itwiz wrote: Dear

LalKitabee,

 

Thanks for an elaborated answer. I have a question here from the following

quote mentioned in your email:

 

MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI BARKAT SE KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE WALE JALIM SHER

KE SAAMNE EK AISI GAIBI

DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD SAKE

.......................................SHER PAR NA GOLI CHALAAYEGAA NA

HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

 

What is referred as [ Mazmoon Baaz ] ?

 

Secondly I would like to request yourself and all other gurus of this forum to

look into my chart and tell me what is wrong and what is the remedy for it.

Myself and my elder brother has been suffering from this which has effected the

WHOLE family as we are the two pillars of the family. For over a year we are out

of job and even a single potential of earning any money from any source just

gets destroyed or vanishes. We are now at a stage which cannot be described here

in detail. Gone out to many people for help, came across numerous frauds too.

Some of the genuine people did indicate black magic but also said that their

powers are limited and cannot treat this. Some did give it a try but failed to

give any results. I also lost my mother in strange conditions before couple of

months. I had taken her to India for treatment.

 

Any body providing some assistance would be helping us the adults of the family

and our small children.

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

Regards,

 

Riaz

 

-

lalkitabee

lalkitab

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:06 AM

[lalkitab] Re: Question about Black Magic To Kulbir Ji, Tarriin &

Riaz Ji

 

Dear Kulbir Ji

 

What r u doing in these days. Chori ayyaari makkari are the SIFT of

Rahu not saturn & Mangal Bad doesn't assigns bhoot pret. Lalkitab says

Jin Bhoot as diety of Mangal Bad.It means .But Jin bhoot are not Karakas

of Mangal Bad. In my opinion Saturn , Merc & Rahu r the focus points to

analyze Black mazic. Bcoz

 

1.saturn has attribute of JAADU MANTAR DEKHNA DIKHAANE KI TAQAT KA MALIK

(page no.1004 edition 1952)

 

2. budh is described as bhoot , Murdaa , Bhoot Pret chamgaadad . ( Page

No. 1007 edition) 1952)

 

3. Rahu is chaalbaaz Makkar Neech Jaalim (Page no. 1007 edition 1952),

Rahu has been called as ---- Maut Ka bahaanaa ghadne wali taqat, Thaggee

chori aur ayyari ka sargana ( Page No. 644 ,edition 1952 ). & u know

that this is the owner of mental waves (dimaghi laherain).

 

So much role of bad budh with the help of saturn & rahu seems to be

victim of Black Magic of anyone.

 

Now the question is how can be cured from Black magic. In fact no more

cases i attended during my practice. But for some of them i suggested to

go to BALA JI (Hanuman Ji) in Rajasthan. & after some time they

improoved themselves. U know that Hanuman Ji called as DEVTAA of Mangal

nek in lalkitab. It means if any UPAASAK OR TANTRIK OF BHOOT JINS ( due

to his Mangal Bad activities) uses his black mazic for destruction then

Mangal nek can save from that & 2nd option is to go to the chamber of

Mangal bad , i mean to say become UPAASAK OF BHOOT JIN. But lalkitab

doesnt support for this .It says---MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI BARKAT SE

KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE WALE JALIM SHER KE SAAMNE EK AISI GAIBI

DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD SAKE

.......................................SHER PAR NA GOLI CHALAAYEGAA NA

HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

 

So as remedy there can be different ways with the help

of Mangal Nek (Hanuman Ji) after analyzation. Even u can read in

hanumaan chaalisaa ---- BHOOT PISHAACH NIKAT NAHI AAVAIN, MAHAAVEER JAB

NAAM SUNAVAIN.

 

I expressed my views as a result of reading, but knowledge & research

has no limit & we have so much limitations with limits.So I welcome for

views of spledourous researchers & personalities with down head.

 

With Regards

 

Lalkitabee

 

Mr. Riaz asking to know the effect of Black Magic through Horoscope

about the

lalkitab , kulbir bains <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Sir, lakitab particularly assigns (black magic) bhoot pret jinnat to

mangal badh, chori aayari maakri to shani. native's inclination, effects

if any could be ascertained on the basis of these 2 planets plus 8th

house.

> kulbir bains

>

> ITWizard itwiz wrote:

> Salaams to all the Gurus and the rest of the group,

>

> I have been reading into subjects of occult i.e. Jyotish, Astrology

etc. for many years and happen to understand the basics of it (would

love to learn a lot and trying to learn). I recently happen to come

across this group and joined in as a member.

>

> I have this question for all the Gurus of the subject out here, and I

am sorry if this has been discussed here before. Can effects of black

magic be diagnosed in anyone's chart ? Are their cures for it in Lal

Kitab ? If so, can these remedies work and win against the strongest

attacks of black magic ?

>

> Regards,

>

> Riaz

>

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Riaz Ji

I was reading ur mail.Due to some religious term it is not possible

to go to Hanuman Mandir for u.So im suggesting some different.u

didn't wrote ur birth details.Though im suggesting a folk remedy of

U.P. (India)for u. It doesnt blong to lalkitab but it is

effective.1st of all to make sure about spell u shud do as below:-

Purchase equally green chillies & two yellow lemons .one

lemon & seven chillies shud be put in a thread ( jaise ki MALA

tayyar ki jaati hai) Lemon shud be downward.Hang it at the main door

of ur home at saturday evening & another same preparation of one

lemon & seven chilles in a thread ,shud be placed in home at any

safe place . If u see more changes at the chilles & lemon of door

than other after a week.if u see more & fast growing changes. It

means ur home is under the impact of evil (GANDI BALAA).

2.On a Sunday, burn a little kachcha koyala { wood charcoal } along

with dried droppings of either a camel or a deer { Camel dung or

deer dung } in an earthen pot. When the charcoal and the camel /

deer droppings get red, sprinkle a few mustard seeds and a little

bat droppings over it and carry the smoking pot around the house, in

every nook and corner. The best place you can collect the bat

droppings from is the deserted old buildings where bats roost during

the day. Repeat this process for at least 13 Sundays.

After this i will tell about some other remedies at per system

of lalkitab.May God help u soon.

With Regards

Lalkitabee

 

lalkitab , " ITWizard " <itwiz wrote:

>

> Dear LalKitabee,

>

> Thanks for an elaborated answer. I have a question here from the

following quote mentioned in your email:

>

> MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI BARKAT SE KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE

WALE JALIM SHER KE SAAMNE EK AISI GAIBI

> DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD SAKE

> .......................................SHER PAR NA GOLI

CHALAAYEGAA NA

> HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

>

> What is referred as [ Mazmoon Baaz ] ?

>

> Secondly I would like to request yourself and all other gurus of

this forum to look into my chart and tell me what is wrong and what

is the remedy for it. Myself and my elder brother has been suffering

from this which has effected the WHOLE family as we are the two

pillars of the family. For over a year we are out of job and even a

single potential of earning any money from any source just gets

destroyed or vanishes. We are now at a stage which cannot be

described here in detail. Gone out to many people for help, came

across numerous frauds too. Some of the genuine people did indicate

black magic but also said that their powers are limited and cannot

treat this. Some did give it a try but failed to give any results. I

also lost my mother in strange conditions before couple of months. I

had taken her to India for treatment.

>

> Any body providing some assistance would be helping us the adults

of the family and our small children.

>

> Thanks in anticipation.

>

> Regards,

>

> Riaz

>

>

>

>

> -

> lalkitabee

> lalkitab

> Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:06 AM

> [lalkitab] Re: Question about Black Magic To Kulbir Ji,

Tarriin & Riaz Ji

>

>

>

> Dear Kulbir Ji

>

> What r u doing in these days. Chori ayyaari makkari are the SIFT

of

> Rahu not saturn & Mangal Bad doesn't assigns bhoot pret.

Lalkitab says

> Jin Bhoot as diety of Mangal Bad.It means .But Jin bhoot are not

Karakas

> of Mangal Bad. In my opinion Saturn , Merc & Rahu r the focus

points to

> analyze Black mazic. Bcoz

>

> 1.saturn has attribute of JAADU MANTAR DEKHNA DIKHAANE KI TAQAT

KA MALIK

> (page no.1004 edition 1952)

>

> 2. budh is described as bhoot , Murdaa , Bhoot Pret chamgaadad .

( Page

> No. 1007 edition) 1952)

>

> 3. Rahu is chaalbaaz Makkar Neech Jaalim (Page no. 1007 edition

1952),

> Rahu has been called as ---- Maut Ka bahaanaa ghadne wali taqat,

Thaggee

> chori aur ayyari ka sargana ( Page No. 644 ,edition 1952 ). & u

know

> that this is the owner of mental waves (dimaghi laherain).

>

> So much role of bad budh with the help of saturn & rahu seems to

be

> victim of Black Magic of anyone.

>

> Now the question is how can be cured from Black magic. In fact

no more

> cases i attended during my practice. But for some of them i

suggested to

> go to BALA JI (Hanuman Ji) in Rajasthan. & after some time they

> improoved themselves. U know that Hanuman Ji called as DEVTAA of

Mangal

> nek in lalkitab. It means if any UPAASAK OR TANTRIK OF BHOOT

JINS ( due

> to his Mangal Bad activities) uses his black mazic for

destruction then

> Mangal nek can save from that & 2nd option is to go to the

chamber of

> Mangal bad , i mean to say become UPAASAK OF BHOOT JIN. But

lalkitab

> doesnt support for this .It says---MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI

BARKAT SE

> KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE WALE JALIM SHER KE SAAMNE EK AISI

GAIBI

> DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD

SAKE

> .......................................SHER PAR NA GOLI

CHALAAYEGAA NA

> HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

>

> So as remedy there can be different ways with the help

> of Mangal Nek (Hanuman Ji) after analyzation. Even u can read in

> hanumaan chaalisaa ---- BHOOT PISHAACH NIKAT NAHI AAVAIN,

MAHAAVEER JAB

> NAAM SUNAVAIN.

>

> I expressed my views as a result of reading, but knowledge &

research

> has no limit & we have so much limitations with limits.So I

welcome for

> views of spledourous researchers & personalities with down head.

>

> With Regards

>

> Lalkitabee

>

> Mr. Riaz asking to know the effect of Black Magic through

Horoscope

> about the

> lalkitab , kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> >

> > Sir, lakitab particularly assigns (black magic) bhoot pret

jinnat to

> mangal badh, chori aayari maakri to shani. native's inclination,

effects

> if any could be ascertained on the basis of these 2 planets plus

8th

> house.

> > kulbir bains

> >

> > ITWizard itwiz@ wrote:

> > Salaams to all the Gurus and the rest of the group,

> >

> > I have been reading into subjects of occult i.e. Jyotish,

Astrology

> etc. for many years and happen to understand the basics of it

(would

> love to learn a lot and trying to learn). I recently happen to

come

> across this group and joined in as a member.

> >

> > I have this question for all the Gurus of the subject out

here, and I

> am sorry if this has been discussed here before. Can effects of

black

> magic be diagnosed in anyone's chart ? Are their cures for it in

Lal

> Kitab ? If so, can these remedies work and win against the

strongest

> attacks of black magic ?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Riaz

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Yograj Ji,

 

Thanks for the clarification. That was such a silly mistake of reading by me.

 

Riaz

 

-

Yograj Prabhakar

lalkitab

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:17 AM

Re: [lalkitab] Re: Question about Black Magic To Kulbir Ji, Tarriin &

Riaz Ji

 

 

Dear Riaz Sahib

 

You have asked What is referred as [ Mazmoon Baaz ] ?

 

My dear Friend, it is not Mazmoon Baaz, Mazmoon is a separate word and the

next word is Baaz-Aukaat (sometimes).

 

Yogaj Prabhakar

 

ITWizard <itwiz wrote: Dear LalKitabee,

 

Thanks for an elaborated answer. I have a question here from the following

quote mentioned in your email:

 

MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI BARKAT SE KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE WALE JALIM SHER

KE SAAMNE EK AISI GAIBI

DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD SAKE

.......................................SHER PAR NA GOLI CHALAAYEGAA NA

HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

 

What is referred as [ Mazmoon Baaz ] ?

 

Secondly I would like to request yourself and all other gurus of this forum to

look into my chart and tell me what is wrong and what is the remedy for it.

Myself and my elder brother has been suffering from this which has effected the

WHOLE family as we are the two pillars of the family. For over a year we are out

of job and even a single potential of earning any money from any source just

gets destroyed or vanishes. We are now at a stage which cannot be described here

in detail. Gone out to many people for help, came across numerous frauds too.

Some of the genuine people did indicate black magic but also said that their

powers are limited and cannot treat this. Some did give it a try but failed to

give any results. I also lost my mother in strange conditions before couple of

months. I had taken her to India for treatment.

 

Any body providing some assistance would be helping us the adults of the

family and our small children.

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

Regards,

 

Riaz

 

-

lalkitabee

lalkitab

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:06 AM

[lalkitab] Re: Question about Black Magic To Kulbir Ji, Tarriin &

Riaz Ji

 

Dear Kulbir Ji

 

What r u doing in these days. Chori ayyaari makkari are the SIFT of

Rahu not saturn & Mangal Bad doesn't assigns bhoot pret. Lalkitab says

Jin Bhoot as diety of Mangal Bad.It means .But Jin bhoot are not Karakas

of Mangal Bad. In my opinion Saturn , Merc & Rahu r the focus points to

analyze Black mazic. Bcoz

 

1.saturn has attribute of JAADU MANTAR DEKHNA DIKHAANE KI TAQAT KA MALIK

(page no.1004 edition 1952)

 

2. budh is described as bhoot , Murdaa , Bhoot Pret chamgaadad . ( Page

No. 1007 edition) 1952)

 

3. Rahu is chaalbaaz Makkar Neech Jaalim (Page no. 1007 edition 1952),

Rahu has been called as ---- Maut Ka bahaanaa ghadne wali taqat, Thaggee

chori aur ayyari ka sargana ( Page No. 644 ,edition 1952 ). & u know

that this is the owner of mental waves (dimaghi laherain).

 

So much role of bad budh with the help of saturn & rahu seems to be

victim of Black Magic of anyone.

 

Now the question is how can be cured from Black magic. In fact no more

cases i attended during my practice. But for some of them i suggested to

go to BALA JI (Hanuman Ji) in Rajasthan. & after some time they

improoved themselves. U know that Hanuman Ji called as DEVTAA of Mangal

nek in lalkitab. It means if any UPAASAK OR TANTRIK OF BHOOT JINS ( due

to his Mangal Bad activities) uses his black mazic for destruction then

Mangal nek can save from that & 2nd option is to go to the chamber of

Mangal bad , i mean to say become UPAASAK OF BHOOT JIN. But lalkitab

doesnt support for this .It says---MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI BARKAT SE

KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE WALE JALIM SHER KE SAAMNE EK AISI GAIBI

DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD SAKE

.......................................SHER PAR NA GOLI CHALAAYEGAA NA

HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

 

So as remedy there can be different ways with the help

of Mangal Nek (Hanuman Ji) after analyzation. Even u can read in

hanumaan chaalisaa ---- BHOOT PISHAACH NIKAT NAHI AAVAIN, MAHAAVEER JAB

NAAM SUNAVAIN.

 

I expressed my views as a result of reading, but knowledge & research

has no limit & we have so much limitations with limits.So I welcome for

views of spledourous researchers & personalities with down head.

 

With Regards

 

Lalkitabee

 

Mr. Riaz asking to know the effect of Black Magic through Horoscope

about the

lalkitab , kulbir bains <kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Sir, lakitab particularly assigns (black magic) bhoot pret jinnat to

mangal badh, chori aayari maakri to shani. native's inclination, effects

if any could be ascertained on the basis of these 2 planets plus 8th

house.

> kulbir bains

>

> ITWizard itwiz wrote:

> Salaams to all the Gurus and the rest of the group,

>

> I have been reading into subjects of occult i.e. Jyotish, Astrology

etc. for many years and happen to understand the basics of it (would

love to learn a lot and trying to learn). I recently happen to come

across this group and joined in as a member.

>

> I have this question for all the Gurus of the subject out here, and I

am sorry if this has been discussed here before. Can effects of black

magic be diagnosed in anyone's chart ? Are their cures for it in Lal

Kitab ? If so, can these remedies work and win against the strongest

attacks of black magic ?

>

> Regards,

>

> Riaz

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear LalKitabee,

 

Firstly, going through some of the historical messages on this forum and the

communication hereunder, I am very much inspired by your humble way of

communicating with people, including members like me who are considered as

'TIFAL-E-MAKTAB'

 

Secondly, your help extended is much appreciated, I would do the lemon and

chilly mala on this Saturday. For the second option I will be honest with you as

13 weeks sound too long a period for me and if I don't get a solution within 3-4

weeks, I will have to leave this country as there will be no possibility of

survival.

 

I am sorry to all other members for crying out here on an open forum, but

unfortunately I am seeking help and thus have to bring out the realities on the

table. I was not even sure if any private message would be appreciated.

Moreover, generic remedies being recommended on the forum could be of great help

to someone who is in problems yet silent about it.

 

LalKitabee Jee, I am putting down my birth details hereunder and would like to

request a remedy accordingly and to know the exact issue.

 

DOB: 27 October 1969, 11:00 a.m.

Exact Coordinates of the Location of Birth is

Karachi, Pakistan - 24 N 51, 66 E 59

Current Location - 25 N 23, 55 E 27

 

Just for the reference/research purpose I am also mentioning my brother's data

as he is also going through the SAME situation.

 

DOB: 28 June 1964, 23:00 hours

Karachi, Pakistan

Current Location - 25 N 23, 55 E 27

 

 

Thanks,

 

Riaz

 

 

-

lalkitabee

lalkitab

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:01 AM

[lalkitab] Re: Question about Black Magic To Kulbir Ji, Tarriin &

Riaz Ji

 

 

Respected Riaz Ji

I was reading ur mail.Due to some religious term it is not possible

to go to Hanuman Mandir for u.So im suggesting some different.u

didn't wrote ur birth details.Though im suggesting a folk remedy of

U.P. (India)for u. It doesnt blong to lalkitab but it is

effective.1st of all to make sure about spell u shud do as below:-

Purchase equally green chillies & two yellow lemons .one

lemon & seven chillies shud be put in a thread ( jaise ki MALA

tayyar ki jaati hai) Lemon shud be downward.Hang it at the main door

of ur home at saturday evening & another same preparation of one

lemon & seven chilles in a thread ,shud be placed in home at any

safe place . If u see more changes at the chilles & lemon of door

than other after a week.if u see more & fast growing changes. It

means ur home is under the impact of evil (GANDI BALAA).

2.On a Sunday, burn a little kachcha koyala { wood charcoal } along

with dried droppings of either a camel or a deer { Camel dung or

deer dung } in an earthen pot. When the charcoal and the camel /

deer droppings get red, sprinkle a few mustard seeds and a little

bat droppings over it and carry the smoking pot around the house, in

every nook and corner. The best place you can collect the bat

droppings from is the deserted old buildings where bats roost during

the day. Repeat this process for at least 13 Sundays.

After this i will tell about some other remedies at per system

of lalkitab.May God help u soon.

With Regards

Lalkitabee

 

lalkitab , " ITWizard " <itwiz wrote:

>

> Dear LalKitabee,

>

> Thanks for an elaborated answer. I have a question here from the

following quote mentioned in your email:

>

> MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI BARKAT SE KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE

WALE JALIM SHER KE SAAMNE EK AISI GAIBI

> DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD SAKE

> .......................................SHER PAR NA GOLI

CHALAAYEGAA NA

> HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

>

> What is referred as [ Mazmoon Baaz ] ?

>

> Secondly I would like to request yourself and all other gurus of

this forum to look into my chart and tell me what is wrong and what

is the remedy for it. Myself and my elder brother has been suffering

from this which has effected the WHOLE family as we are the two

pillars of the family. For over a year we are out of job and even a

single potential of earning any money from any source just gets

destroyed or vanishes. We are now at a stage which cannot be

described here in detail. Gone out to many people for help, came

across numerous frauds too. Some of the genuine people did indicate

black magic but also said that their powers are limited and cannot

treat this. Some did give it a try but failed to give any results. I

also lost my mother in strange conditions before couple of months. I

had taken her to India for treatment.

>

> Any body providing some assistance would be helping us the adults

of the family and our small children.

>

> Thanks in anticipation.

>

> Regards,

>

> Riaz

>

>

>

>

> -

> lalkitabee

> lalkitab

> Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:06 AM

> [lalkitab] Re: Question about Black Magic To Kulbir Ji,

Tarriin & Riaz Ji

>

>

>

> Dear Kulbir Ji

>

> What r u doing in these days. Chori ayyaari makkari are the SIFT

of

> Rahu not saturn & Mangal Bad doesn't assigns bhoot pret.

Lalkitab says

> Jin Bhoot as diety of Mangal Bad.It means .But Jin bhoot are not

Karakas

> of Mangal Bad. In my opinion Saturn , Merc & Rahu r the focus

points to

> analyze Black mazic. Bcoz

>

> 1.saturn has attribute of JAADU MANTAR DEKHNA DIKHAANE KI TAQAT

KA MALIK

> (page no.1004 edition 1952)

>

> 2. budh is described as bhoot , Murdaa , Bhoot Pret chamgaadad .

( Page

> No. 1007 edition) 1952)

>

> 3. Rahu is chaalbaaz Makkar Neech Jaalim (Page no. 1007 edition

1952),

> Rahu has been called as ---- Maut Ka bahaanaa ghadne wali taqat,

Thaggee

> chori aur ayyari ka sargana ( Page No. 644 ,edition 1952 ). & u

know

> that this is the owner of mental waves (dimaghi laherain).

>

> So much role of bad budh with the help of saturn & rahu seems to

be

> victim of Black Magic of anyone.

>

> Now the question is how can be cured from Black magic. In fact

no more

> cases i attended during my practice. But for some of them i

suggested to

> go to BALA JI (Hanuman Ji) in Rajasthan. & after some time they

> improoved themselves. U know that Hanuman Ji called as DEVTAA of

Mangal

> nek in lalkitab. It means if any UPAASAK OR TANTRIK OF BHOOT

JINS ( due

> to his Mangal Bad activities) uses his black mazic for

destruction then

> Mangal nek can save from that & 2nd option is to go to the

chamber of

> Mangal bad , i mean to say become UPAASAK OF BHOOT JIN. But

lalkitab

> doesnt support for this .It says---MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI

BARKAT SE

> KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE WALE JALIM SHER KE SAAMNE EK AISI

GAIBI

> DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD

SAKE

> .......................................SHER PAR NA GOLI

CHALAAYEGAA NA

> HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

>

> So as remedy there can be different ways with the help

> of Mangal Nek (Hanuman Ji) after analyzation. Even u can read in

> hanumaan chaalisaa ---- BHOOT PISHAACH NIKAT NAHI AAVAIN,

MAHAAVEER JAB

> NAAM SUNAVAIN.

>

> I expressed my views as a result of reading, but knowledge &

research

> has no limit & we have so much limitations with limits.So I

welcome for

> views of spledourous researchers & personalities with down head.

>

> With Regards

>

> Lalkitabee

>

> Mr. Riaz asking to know the effect of Black Magic through

Horoscope

> about the

> lalkitab , kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> >

> > Sir, lakitab particularly assigns (black magic) bhoot pret

jinnat to

> mangal badh, chori aayari maakri to shani. native's inclination,

effects

> if any could be ascertained on the basis of these 2 planets plus

8th

> house.

> > kulbir bains

> >

> > ITWizard itwiz@ wrote:

> > Salaams to all the Gurus and the rest of the group,

> >

> > I have been reading into subjects of occult i.e. Jyotish,

Astrology

> etc. for many years and happen to understand the basics of it

(would

> love to learn a lot and trying to learn). I recently happen to

come

> across this group and joined in as a member.

> >

> > I have this question for all the Gurus of the subject out

here, and I

> am sorry if this has been discussed here before. Can effects of

black

> magic be diagnosed in anyone's chart ? Are their cures for it in

Lal

> Kitab ? If so, can these remedies work and win against the

strongest

> attacks of black magic ?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Riaz

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Gurus on the Forum,

 

I desperately need some help, I have not heard from anybody after posting my

birth details. I should say:

 

Un ka koee paighaam na aaya

Dil ka tarapna bhi kaam na aaya

 

I am posting the details once again here. Please guide us, we both brothers are

out of job for over a year now.

 

My Birth Details

DOB: 27 October 1969, 11:00 a.m.

Exact Coordinates of the Location of Birth is

Karachi, Pakistan - 24 N 51, 66 E 59

Current Location - 25 N 23, 55 E 27

 

My Brother's birth details

DOB: 28 June 1964, 23:00 hours

NawabShah, Pakistan - 26 N 15, 68 E 25

Current Location - 25 N 23, 55 E 27

 

 

Thanks,

 

Riaz

 

 

 

-

ITWizard

lalkitab

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:18 AM

Re: [lalkitab] Re: Question about Black Magic To Kulbir Ji, Tarriin &

Riaz Ji

 

 

Dear LalKitabee,

 

Firstly, going through some of the historical messages on this forum and the

communication hereunder, I am very much inspired by your humble way of

communicating with people, including members like me who are considered as

'TIFAL-E-MAKTAB'

 

Secondly, your help extended is much appreciated, I would do the lemon and

chilly mala on this Saturday. For the second option I will be honest with you as

13 weeks sound too long a period for me and if I don't get a solution within 3-4

weeks, I will have to leave this country as there will be no possibility of

survival.

 

I am sorry to all other members for crying out here on an open forum, but

unfortunately I am seeking help and thus have to bring out the realities on the

table. I was not even sure if any private message would be appreciated.

Moreover, generic remedies being recommended on the forum could be of great help

to someone who is in problems yet silent about it.

 

LalKitabee Jee, I am putting down my birth details hereunder and would like to

request a remedy accordingly and to know the exact issue.

 

DOB: 27 October 1969, 11:00 a.m.

Exact Coordinates of the Location of Birth is

Karachi, Pakistan - 24 N 51, 66 E 59

Current Location - 25 N 23, 55 E 27

 

Just for the reference/research purpose I am also mentioning my brother's data

as he is also going through the SAME situation.

 

DOB: 28 June 1964, 23:00 hours

Karachi, Pakistan

Current Location - 25 N 23, 55 E 27

 

 

Thanks,

 

Riaz

 

 

-

lalkitabee

lalkitab

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:01 AM

[lalkitab] Re: Question about Black Magic To Kulbir Ji, Tarriin &

Riaz Ji

 

 

Respected Riaz Ji

I was reading ur mail.Due to some religious term it is not possible

to go to Hanuman Mandir for u.So im suggesting some different.u

didn't wrote ur birth details.Though im suggesting a folk remedy of

U.P. (India)for u. It doesnt blong to lalkitab but it is

effective.1st of all to make sure about spell u shud do as below:-

Purchase equally green chillies & two yellow lemons .one

lemon & seven chillies shud be put in a thread ( jaise ki MALA

tayyar ki jaati hai) Lemon shud be downward.Hang it at the main door

of ur home at saturday evening & another same preparation of one

lemon & seven chilles in a thread ,shud be placed in home at any

safe place . If u see more changes at the chilles & lemon of door

than other after a week.if u see more & fast growing changes. It

means ur home is under the impact of evil (GANDI BALAA).

2.On a Sunday, burn a little kachcha koyala { wood charcoal } along

with dried droppings of either a camel or a deer { Camel dung or

deer dung } in an earthen pot. When the charcoal and the camel /

deer droppings get red, sprinkle a few mustard seeds and a little

bat droppings over it and carry the smoking pot around the house, in

every nook and corner. The best place you can collect the bat

droppings from is the deserted old buildings where bats roost during

the day. Repeat this process for at least 13 Sundays.

After this i will tell about some other remedies at per system

of lalkitab.May God help u soon.

With Regards

Lalkitabee

 

lalkitab , " ITWizard " <itwiz wrote:

>

> Dear LalKitabee,

>

> Thanks for an elaborated answer. I have a question here from the

following quote mentioned in your email:

>

> MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI BARKAT SE KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE

WALE JALIM SHER KE SAAMNE EK AISI GAIBI

> DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD SAKE

> .......................................SHER PAR NA GOLI

CHALAAYEGAA NA

> HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

>

> What is referred as [ Mazmoon Baaz ] ?

>

> Secondly I would like to request yourself and all other gurus of

this forum to look into my chart and tell me what is wrong and what

is the remedy for it. Myself and my elder brother has been suffering

from this which has effected the WHOLE family as we are the two

pillars of the family. For over a year we are out of job and even a

single potential of earning any money from any source just gets

destroyed or vanishes. We are now at a stage which cannot be

described here in detail. Gone out to many people for help, came

across numerous frauds too. Some of the genuine people did indicate

black magic but also said that their powers are limited and cannot

treat this. Some did give it a try but failed to give any results. I

also lost my mother in strange conditions before couple of months. I

had taken her to India for treatment.

>

> Any body providing some assistance would be helping us the adults

of the family and our small children.

>

> Thanks in anticipation.

>

> Regards,

>

> Riaz

>

>

>

>

> -

> lalkitabee

> lalkitab

> Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:06 AM

> [lalkitab] Re: Question about Black Magic To Kulbir Ji,

Tarriin & Riaz Ji

>

>

>

> Dear Kulbir Ji

>

> What r u doing in these days. Chori ayyaari makkari are the SIFT

of

> Rahu not saturn & Mangal Bad doesn't assigns bhoot pret.

Lalkitab says

> Jin Bhoot as diety of Mangal Bad.It means .But Jin bhoot are not

Karakas

> of Mangal Bad. In my opinion Saturn , Merc & Rahu r the focus

points to

> analyze Black mazic. Bcoz

>

> 1.saturn has attribute of JAADU MANTAR DEKHNA DIKHAANE KI TAQAT

KA MALIK

> (page no.1004 edition 1952)

>

> 2. budh is described as bhoot , Murdaa , Bhoot Pret chamgaadad .

( Page

> No. 1007 edition) 1952)

>

> 3. Rahu is chaalbaaz Makkar Neech Jaalim (Page no. 1007 edition

1952),

> Rahu has been called as ---- Maut Ka bahaanaa ghadne wali taqat,

Thaggee

> chori aur ayyari ka sargana ( Page No. 644 ,edition 1952 ). & u

know

> that this is the owner of mental waves (dimaghi laherain).

>

> So much role of bad budh with the help of saturn & rahu seems to

be

> victim of Black Magic of anyone.

>

> Now the question is how can be cured from Black magic. In fact

no more

> cases i attended during my practice. But for some of them i

suggested to

> go to BALA JI (Hanuman Ji) in Rajasthan. & after some time they

> improoved themselves. U know that Hanuman Ji called as DEVTAA of

Mangal

> nek in lalkitab. It means if any UPAASAK OR TANTRIK OF BHOOT

JINS ( due

> to his Mangal Bad activities) uses his black mazic for

destruction then

> Mangal nek can save from that & 2nd option is to go to the

chamber of

> Mangal bad , i mean to say become UPAASAK OF BHOOT JIN. But

lalkitab

> doesnt support for this .It says---MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI

BARKAT SE

> KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE WALE JALIM SHER KE SAAMNE EK AISI

GAIBI

> DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD

SAKE

> .......................................SHER PAR NA GOLI

CHALAAYEGAA NA

> HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

>

> So as remedy there can be different ways with the help

> of Mangal Nek (Hanuman Ji) after analyzation. Even u can read in

> hanumaan chaalisaa ---- BHOOT PISHAACH NIKAT NAHI AAVAIN,

MAHAAVEER JAB

> NAAM SUNAVAIN.

>

> I expressed my views as a result of reading, but knowledge &

research

> has no limit & we have so much limitations with limits.So I

welcome for

> views of spledourous researchers & personalities with down head.

>

> With Regards

>

> Lalkitabee

>

> Mr. Riaz asking to know the effect of Black Magic through

Horoscope

> about the

> lalkitab , kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

wrote:

> >

> > Sir, lakitab particularly assigns (black magic) bhoot pret

jinnat to

> mangal badh, chori aayari maakri to shani. native's inclination,

effects

> if any could be ascertained on the basis of these 2 planets plus

8th

> house.

> > kulbir bains

> >

> > ITWizard itwiz@ wrote:

> > Salaams to all the Gurus and the rest of the group,

> >

> > I have been reading into subjects of occult i.e. Jyotish,

Astrology

> etc. for many years and happen to understand the basics of it

(would

> love to learn a lot and trying to learn). I recently happen to

come

> across this group and joined in as a member.

> >

> > I have this question for all the Gurus of the subject out

here, and I

> am sorry if this has been discussed here before. Can effects of

black

> magic be diagnosed in anyone's chart ? Are their cures for it in

Lal

> Kitab ? If so, can these remedies work and win against the

strongest

> attacks of black magic ?

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Riaz

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Respected Riaz Bhai

Sorry for delay. But all correspondence done during the title of

black mazic & accordingly i suggested some remedies ,But ur reply

discourased me. Bcoz normally if one wants all thing according to

him .it bcomes impossible to decide, wat to do.Kyonki aksar aisaa

lagtaa hai ki marz chaahey kaisi bhi ho mareez medicine to chahtaa

hai lekin aisi jo ki meethee bhi ho, marzi ki bhee ho aur samay ki

bhi koi paabandi naa ho.Kabhi khaanaa bhool bhi gaye to bhi koyee

fark na pade.Aise main aap hi kaho ki kyaa aisaa koi hakeem hai jo

in sab sharton ko pooraa kartey huye eelaaz kar sake. Aise main

uskaa chup ho jaanaa hee behtar lagtaa hai.Main bhi isi ka shikaar

hua thaa. Lekin fir bhi ek koshish kar rahaa hoon.ho saktaa hai ki

isse aapko madad mile.Baaki jo khudaa ko manjoor.

1. Ur saturn shows that u can be gripped by black mazic ,so 1st of

all it is remediable. Though i can say that may be there r some

changes of place due to business or job bfor october.throw Black

Surmaa in flowing water & stay down headed bfor the chair of judge

in any cour( u can do this after duty hours of court)

2.Donate LEATHER SHOES for any preacher.

For ur brother:-

1.He shud store natural water of rain or snow in home.

2.After this place a silver made elephant in the water of any river(

specially in the water of rever)

3.He shud do the remedy of water which we disscussed in group

recently.

4.Golden chain around neck is compulsry for him.

It is possible that u may achieve relief in this hard

period of life.

At last :-

Dil ko dil hee rehne do ,dard-a-dil mat banaao

Taqdeer ki dor gar khud ulajh jaaye to use is tarah na

suljhaao

with Regards

Pt. Lalkitabee

 

lalkitab , " ITWizard " <itwiz wrote:

>

> Dear Gurus on the Forum,

>

> I desperately need some help, I have not heard from anybody after

posting my birth details. I should say:

>

> Un ka koee paighaam na aaya

> Dil ka tarapna bhi kaam na aaya

>

> I am posting the details once again here. Please guide us, we both

brothers are out of job for over a year now.

>

> My Birth Details

> DOB: 27 October 1969, 11:00 a.m.

> Exact Coordinates of the Location of Birth is

> Karachi, Pakistan - 24 N 51, 66 E 59

> Current Location - 25 N 23, 55 E 27

>

> My Brother's birth details

> DOB: 28 June 1964, 23:00 hours

> NawabShah, Pakistan - 26 N 15, 68 E 25

> Current Location - 25 N 23, 55 E 27

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Riaz

>

>

>

> -

> ITWizard

> lalkitab

> Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:18 AM

> Re: [lalkitab] Re: Question about Black Magic To Kulbir

Ji, Tarriin & Riaz Ji

>

>

> Dear LalKitabee,

>

> Firstly, going through some of the historical messages on this

forum and the communication hereunder, I am very much inspired by

your humble way of communicating with people, including members like

me who are considered as 'TIFAL-E-MAKTAB'

>

> Secondly, your help extended is much appreciated, I would do the

lemon and chilly mala on this Saturday. For the second option I will

be honest with you as 13 weeks sound too long a period for me and if

I don't get a solution within 3-4 weeks, I will have to leave this

country as there will be no possibility of survival.

>

> I am sorry to all other members for crying out here on an open

forum, but unfortunately I am seeking help and thus have to bring

out the realities on the table. I was not even sure if any private

message would be appreciated. Moreover, generic remedies being

recommended on the forum could be of great help to someone who is in

problems yet silent about it.

>

> LalKitabee Jee, I am putting down my birth details hereunder and

would like to request a remedy accordingly and to know the exact

issue.

>

> DOB: 27 October 1969, 11:00 a.m.

> Exact Coordinates of the Location of Birth is

> Karachi, Pakistan - 24 N 51, 66 E 59

> Current Location - 25 N 23, 55 E 27

>

> Just for the reference/research purpose I am also mentioning my

brother's data as he is also going through the SAME situation.

>

> DOB: 28 June 1964, 23:00 hours

> Karachi, Pakistan

> Current Location - 25 N 23, 55 E 27

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Riaz

>

>

> -

> lalkitabee

> lalkitab

> Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:01 AM

> [lalkitab] Re: Question about Black Magic To Kulbir Ji,

Tarriin & Riaz Ji

>

>

> Respected Riaz Ji

> I was reading ur mail.Due to some religious term it is not

possible

> to go to Hanuman Mandir for u.So im suggesting some different.u

> didn't wrote ur birth details.Though im suggesting a folk remedy

of

> U.P. (India)for u. It doesnt blong to lalkitab but it is

> effective.1st of all to make sure about spell u shud do as

below:-

> Purchase equally green chillies & two yellow lemons .one

> lemon & seven chillies shud be put in a thread ( jaise ki MALA

> tayyar ki jaati hai) Lemon shud be downward.Hang it at the main

door

> of ur home at saturday evening & another same preparation of one

> lemon & seven chilles in a thread ,shud be placed in home at any

> safe place . If u see more changes at the chilles & lemon of

door

> than other after a week.if u see more & fast growing changes. It

> means ur home is under the impact of evil (GANDI BALAA).

> 2.On a Sunday, burn a little kachcha koyala { wood charcoal }

along

> with dried droppings of either a camel or a deer { Camel dung or

> deer dung } in an earthen pot. When the charcoal and the camel /

> deer droppings get red, sprinkle a few mustard seeds and a

little

> bat droppings over it and carry the smoking pot around the

house, in

> every nook and corner. The best place you can collect the bat

> droppings from is the deserted old buildings where bats roost

during

> the day. Repeat this process for at least 13 Sundays.

> After this i will tell about some other remedies at per system

> of lalkitab.May God help u soon.

> With Regards

> Lalkitabee

>

> lalkitab , " ITWizard " <itwiz@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear LalKitabee,

> >

> > Thanks for an elaborated answer. I have a question here from

the

> following quote mentioned in your email:

> >

> > MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI BARKAT SE KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE

> WALE JALIM SHER KE SAAMNE EK AISI GAIBI

> > DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD

SAKE

> > .......................................SHER PAR NA GOLI

> CHALAAYEGAA NA

> > HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

> >

> > What is referred as [ Mazmoon Baaz ] ?

> >

> > Secondly I would like to request yourself and all other gurus

of

> this forum to look into my chart and tell me what is wrong and

what

> is the remedy for it. Myself and my elder brother has been

suffering

> from this which has effected the WHOLE family as we are the two

> pillars of the family. For over a year we are out of job and

even a

> single potential of earning any money from any source just gets

> destroyed or vanishes. We are now at a stage which cannot be

> described here in detail. Gone out to many people for help, came

> across numerous frauds too. Some of the genuine people did

indicate

> black magic but also said that their powers are limited and

cannot

> treat this. Some did give it a try but failed to give any

results. I

> also lost my mother in strange conditions before couple of

months. I

> had taken her to India for treatment.

> >

> > Any body providing some assistance would be helping us the

adults

> of the family and our small children.

> >

> > Thanks in anticipation.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Riaz

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > lalkitabee

> > lalkitab

> > Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:06 AM

> > [lalkitab] Re: Question about Black Magic To Kulbir

Ji,

> Tarriin & Riaz Ji

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Kulbir Ji

> >

> > What r u doing in these days. Chori ayyaari makkari are the

SIFT

> of

> > Rahu not saturn & Mangal Bad doesn't assigns bhoot pret.

> Lalkitab says

> > Jin Bhoot as diety of Mangal Bad.It means .But Jin bhoot are

not

> Karakas

> > of Mangal Bad. In my opinion Saturn , Merc & Rahu r the focus

> points to

> > analyze Black mazic. Bcoz

> >

> > 1.saturn has attribute of JAADU MANTAR DEKHNA DIKHAANE KI

TAQAT

> KA MALIK

> > (page no.1004 edition 1952)

> >

> > 2. budh is described as bhoot , Murdaa , Bhoot Pret

chamgaadad .

> ( Page

> > No. 1007 edition) 1952)

> >

> > 3. Rahu is chaalbaaz Makkar Neech Jaalim (Page no. 1007

edition

> 1952),

> > Rahu has been called as ---- Maut Ka bahaanaa ghadne wali

taqat,

> Thaggee

> > chori aur ayyari ka sargana ( Page No. 644 ,edition 1952 ). &

u

> know

> > that this is the owner of mental waves (dimaghi laherain).

> >

> > So much role of bad budh with the help of saturn & rahu seems

to

> be

> > victim of Black Magic of anyone.

> >

> > Now the question is how can be cured from Black magic. In fact

> no more

> > cases i attended during my practice. But for some of them i

> suggested to

> > go to BALA JI (Hanuman Ji) in Rajasthan. & after some time they

> > improoved themselves. U know that Hanuman Ji called as DEVTAA

of

> Mangal

> > nek in lalkitab. It means if any UPAASAK OR TANTRIK OF BHOOT

> JINS ( due

> > to his Mangal Bad activities) uses his black mazic for

> destruction then

> > Mangal nek can save from that & 2nd option is to go to the

> chamber of

> > Mangal bad , i mean to say become UPAASAK OF BHOOT JIN. But

> lalkitab

> > doesnt support for this .It says---MAZMOON BAAZ AUKAT APNI

> BARKAT SE

> > KISI PRAANI PAR HAMLAA KARNE WALE JALIM SHER KE SAAMNE EK AISI

> GAIBI

> > DEEWAR KHADI KAR DEGAA JISSE KI VO SHER USKAA KUCHH NA BIGAAD

> SAKE

> > .......................................SHER PAR NA GOLI

> CHALAAYEGAA NA

> > HEE USKI TAANG PAKREGAA ( pAGE NO. 6 IN 1952 EDITION)

> >

> > So as remedy there can be different ways with the help

> > of Mangal Nek (Hanuman Ji) after analyzation. Even u can read

in

> > hanumaan chaalisaa ---- BHOOT PISHAACH NIKAT NAHI AAVAIN,

> MAHAAVEER JAB

> > NAAM SUNAVAIN.

> >

> > I expressed my views as a result of reading, but knowledge &

> research

> > has no limit & we have so much limitations with limits.So I

> welcome for

> > views of spledourous researchers & personalities with down

head.

> >

> > With Regards

> >

> > Lalkitabee

> >

> > Mr. Riaz asking to know the effect of Black Magic through

> Horoscope

> > about the

> > lalkitab , kulbir bains <kulbirbains@>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir, lakitab particularly assigns (black magic) bhoot pret

> jinnat to

> > mangal badh, chori aayari maakri to shani. native's

inclination,

> effects

> > if any could be ascertained on the basis of these 2 planets

plus

> 8th

> > house.

> > > kulbir bains

> > >

> > > ITWizard itwiz@ wrote:

> > > Salaams to all the Gurus and the rest of the group,

> > >

> > > I have been reading into subjects of occult i.e. Jyotish,

> Astrology

> > etc. for many years and happen to understand the basics of it

> (would

> > love to learn a lot and trying to learn). I recently happen to

> come

> > across this group and joined in as a member.

> > >

> > > I have this question for all the Gurus of the subject out

> here, and I

> > am sorry if this has been discussed here before. Can effects

of

> black

> > magic be diagnosed in anyone's chart ? Are their cures for it

in

> Lal

> > Kitab ? If so, can these remedies work and win against the

> strongest

> > attacks of black magic ?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Riaz

> > >

> > >